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scorpiowolf

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Re: Abused Women Support Group: Verbal, Physical, Emotional
« Reply #100 on: July 25, 2008, 07:50:28 am »
Just want to share these articles I came across which has somehow helped me cope in leaving my abusive marriage:

Ask yourSelf this question: "Is this the way I want to spend my life?" Is it?

Assuming the two of you stay together, maybe get married, have children... Things don't get better, they get worse. Abuse worsens over time. The good in-between parts get shorter and the bad parts get longer. That's just the way it goes.

Wishful thinking is in my experience the most destructive process a person in an abusive relationship can engage in. Yet, most abused people survive via wishing and hoping that things will be better in the future. They won't. Many individuals hurt themselves unnecessarily by wishing/ hoping things will change. Learn from them. Otherwise, you'll just be back here some years from now, certainly more scarred than you already are.

By the way, this is not love even though it may  feel like love to you. This is the emotional rollercoaster of abuse. Remember, this is your life. You decide what you do and do not do. You pay the consequences, or reap the rewards. If you choose to drive the highway at 175 mph, regardless of much you may love the feeling,  you are the one who is endangering your life. Your choice. And, the relationship you are in is a choice.[/size][/size]
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scorpiowolf

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Re: Abused Women Support Group: Verbal, Physical, Emotional
« Reply #101 on: July 25, 2008, 08:05:44 am »
Leaving my abusive husband was the most painful and difficult thing i have even experienced. Its been 2 months but there is not a day that goes by that I dont think of him, miss him, want him, and wish that things were different. Im ashamed to admit it but sometimes I still catch myself hoping for a miracle. I noticed though that minimizing my contact with him helps make me stronger. Every time I have contact with him, I slide back down the depression and emotional attachment scale. Ive realized its bec of the verbal abuse that made me feel so helpless and worthless all these years is also the reason why its doubly hard to get over this kind of relationship, as opposed to a more normal one. Also, its the dependency to my husband that he instilled in our marriage with his controlling ways, makes me feel all the more lost now, and yearning for him now that he isnt around.

Leaving your abuser is like a drug addict quitting cold turkey. You go through extreme withdrawals, yearning for the "good times" with your abuser. Remember it was those good times anyway that made you stay and remain hopeful throughout those years. I noticed the best way is for me to remember the bad times.

Here's a site that has been very helpful to me: www.drirene.com

also here are some tips on HOW TO SURVIVE LEAVING YOUR ABUSER

1. It is OK to have sad times. You miss the parts of your relationship that were good. It's OK to grieve. But never, ever forget the bad!

2.Sit down right now and write a comprehensive list of all the times that he intimidated you, abused you verbally, emotionally, or physically. Don't forget the passive aggressive stuff (like helping another woman with her coat at a party, but not helping you; being late; not following through; not answering, so you have to "chase" him for an answer; etc.)

3. Take the "Badness" list above, extrapolate and project into the future. Make things worse. Much worse. Abuse does get worse, you know. What might your life be like during the bad times down the road? How does he handle marriage and the inevitable disagreements? Your job? Money? Kids? What does a selfish, immature parent look like when in a bad mood? How might he treat your future children? And how would he rationalize his misbehavior to himself? Keep these lists with you and read it them time you feel down.

4. Separate how much you miss of what: How much percent do you miss the whole person he is as opposed to how much percent do you miss being in a relationship: having a life together; making future plans; daily chats; evenings & weekends, etc? Do you miss  him - or miss being in a relationship?

5. Are you depressed? You may need treatment!

6. Remind yourSelf that this too shall pass.

7. Do not begin dating immediately. Don't escape your pain; use it to grow.

8. Stick to your guns, get your ducks in a row, and know that in 6 months, you'll be glad you did. Keep busy! Use this time for self-improvement. Become more and more of the woman you want to be; become your very best.

9. Read up on becoming more of your own person so that you don't simply plop into the lap of the next male animal that is interested. The next guy's got to deserve you!

10. Remember: each day you get through, the stronger you become.

most importantly: KEEP PRAYING!


betrayed0403

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Re: Abused Women Support Group: Verbal, Physical, Emotional
« Reply #102 on: July 25, 2008, 12:59:23 pm »
^wow! congrats, sis. i know that it takes a lot of courage and strength to leave your husband. we tend to be masochists sometimes because we love a person. there's no denying that you still love him... let's just pray that things will turn out well.

God bless.

scorpiowolf

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Re: Abused Women Support Group: Verbal, Physical, Emotional
« Reply #103 on: July 25, 2008, 03:54:41 pm »
^Thanks sis! I really am trying so hard to do the right and smart thing. And as sis aquacharly also mentioned here... we should all just pray and ask for God's will to happen.

In the end, I know God has a good plan for me and others like me. I just pray everyday that I may be enlightened so that I may choose my path wisely. I know that true happiness can only happen if you choose the right path... the right path being, whatever it is that God has in store for me.

Its really tough, but the good news is it does get a bit easier as the days roll by. Not to say that Im not sad, and sometimes I still have very depressing days. I still am not fully recovered as I still cannot function in the full capacity that I had before this all happened. But it does get a bit easier each day.

I see also that I tend to think more clearly and assess the situation for what it is by minimizing my contact with my husband. I think the key really is to maintain your distance as much as possible after leaving your abuser. Thats the only way you can break the cycle. Its also the only way to detach and see thing from a better perspective.

Afterwhich, maybe... maybe a miracle may still happen. Or maybe... it just wont be the miracle I was hoping for, which is that my husband will change. Maybe the miracle in my life is this: That I got out of an abusive relationship and saved myself.

Also, I may have lost a husband... but in the process I regained myself back. I may have lost that love, but I found a greater love... which is to love myself.

Paulo

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Re: Abused Women Support Group: Verbal, Physical, Emotional
« Reply #104 on: July 25, 2008, 06:20:46 pm »
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The thing I like about reading through opinions and browsing through the board is that you get to learn new terms everyday. Today Scorpiowolf, you've introduced to me a brand new term .... "Male Animal". Yup. Sounds like a good Handle/Nick to use too. :)

Kidding aside, it's good to know what you've made that big, brave, step towards the right direction. It's bound to hurt. Of course. But it's bound to get better too. That's what's important.

And don't forget .... "If God puts you to it, He'll get you through it".

Good luck. Do good. ... Keep away from "Male Animals". ;)
« Last Edit: July 25, 2008, 06:22:18 pm by Paulo »

scorpiowolf

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Re: Abused Women Support Group: Verbal, Physical, Emotional
« Reply #105 on: July 27, 2008, 05:40:39 am »
^ Hahahaha thanks Paulo!!! I know, huh? Male Animals... we all love em and hate em!!

But seriously now, this thread has been almost like a journal for me. I back read and see my post last year when I started this thread, and I do see the progress I have made, albeit slow as it is. That makes me feel even more hopeful of the future and that things really do get better slowly but surely.

One thing that is helping me through this also, is that a friend of mine just relvealed that she has been abused for the last 10 years. No one had an idea. I was shocked to hear that her husband has even pointed his gun to her head. And it made me cry and touched me so deeply when she said that, its my speaking up and confiding my abuse problems with her, that gave her the strength to talk abt her abuse with family members and trusted people. Its made her feel that "hey, it isnt so bad to talk about your abuse to people you trust to ask fro advice and help." That really touched me. Its as if I felt like, wow, sharing my pain really helped someone. It makes me feel and know my pain hasnt all been in vain.

Anyway, I guess this is why this board has helped me so much to get through this. Bec there are people out there who will understand your pain and uplift you. Thanks to everyone, esp you Paulo. lotsa inspiring posts from you here. I hope this board continues to really support others.

trinity8

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Re: Abused Women Support Group: Verbal, Physical, Emotional
« Reply #106 on: July 28, 2008, 09:31:56 am »
Sis scorpiowolf, I really admire what you've done and I hope one day I can be as strong as you.  I thank you for the advice and support too.

Been totally spaced out lately, so stressed and depressed.  I haven't been speaking to my partner and I must admit I have this urge to call so I can just hear his voice but something inside tells me not to do it anymore....don't worry I haven't but it's really eating me up inside.  Family's not helping either.  They actually complicate the gravity of my situation.  Because of my situation (being annulled and everything), they think it is right for them to condemn me and treat me like I don't have any right to live in this world.  Sometimes it's good but most of the time it's bad.  My mom wanted to give my baby to the DSWD for heaven's sake.  Relatives won't help either.  They just tell me I should just take what my mom hurls at me even if it hurts because she is old na naman daw and it's just a phase.

I can't leave the country without my children.  I can't go out of town or anywhere for that matter....I'm flat broke.  The salary I get from my job, which is not much, goes to paying my debts.  Would like to go back to Rose but my schedule won't permit me to do so.  I have to save up so I can break free na.  I did try living away from my parents for more than a year but even if malayo na kami ng mga anak ko, i was still controlled.  The people closest to me have already judged me and don't want to talk to me.  I have no one...that's why dito na lang ako nagbubuhos ng sama ng loob ko.  Somehow, I get a great deal of relief when I read your posts.    I am trying to be strong for my kids na lang....that's what I live for nowadays but all the burdens I have far overweigh the good things.  I hope that I can keep up. 

scorpiowolf

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Re: Abused Women Support Group: Verbal, Physical, Emotional
« Reply #107 on: July 30, 2008, 10:48:32 am »
Sis trinity thanks so much!! To be honest I still feel so weak and helpless most of the time. But im trying my best to be strong. And each day that passes since Ive separated and minimized all contact with my husband... the farther I step away from that relationship, the more I see clearly that the abuse really had NOTHING to do with me. Although my husband blamed me for anything and everything, it was all just part of the mental manipulation for him to control me into becoming a victim.

Sis, aside from Rose, ive seen 2 other therapist in my search for answers. They all say the same, that it is almost impossible to rehabilitate an abuser. Especially for my husband who shows no remorse and admission and responsibility for his abusive behavior.

Also sis, look up and read. It helps me so much in my healing process to research and get to understand what went on in my marriage. I have discovered with the help of therapist that my husband has a narcissistic personality disorder. Sis look it up. Might just be the same with you.

You can do it sis! We all can. Its going to be a very very bumpy road and you will fall down and relapse every now and then. But sis, I promise you, just get passed the first 6 weeks with minimal contact and youll be surprised at how much stronger youll feel.

Sis if u need to talk, just pm me your number and Ill call you! you said you need to vent and get things off your chest. Just let me know sis!!! God Bless

ggb

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Re: Abused Women Support Group: Verbal, Physical, Emotional
« Reply #108 on: July 31, 2008, 09:36:20 am »
You may need to learn a few self-defense.

I suggest learning Krav Maga. Its a martial arts design for combat. Its not competitive, like karate or kick-boxing, nor it is traditional.

This is actual new in the Philippines but it the official martial arts of Israel Defense Force.

If you watched The Bourne Ultimatum, the scene in the train station, is Krav Maga.

You can check the website of Krav Maga Philippines from this Link:
http://www.kravmaga.ph/

You can learn more about this martial arts from WikiPedia:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Krav_Maga

This is a straight forward self-defense no Kata or Form.

Here is a sample from YouTube:

Krav Maga (Female Defense):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jxExB6_O9co

Krav Maga (Figth Quest ):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0xUjrZ3zXKU&feature=related

They will also have demonstration in The Fort (Global City).

aquacharly

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Re: Abused Women Support Group: Verbal, Physical, Emotional
« Reply #109 on: August 09, 2008, 12:45:33 pm »
Sis TRINITY8 -- if you should choose to back to  Rose -- just go,  ako bahala sa yo.  But she is basically a psychologist/counsellor who is focused on women empowerment.  She will never prescribe meds, nor go the medical route. 

Once Rose  referred me to a psychiatrist -- a psychiatrist is a counselor who is a doctor and can prescribe medications (coz I reached the point once where my anger was such that I said I was scared I might do something drastic -- as in kill someone?   or order the killing, which was easier and within my means.  No kidding.  Umabot ako sa ganyang situation, after I snapped out of the abuse.  No, it wasn't my husband I had intentions on.  LOL_.)   

But Sis TRINITY8  I did not go back to the psychiatrist coz the meds were making me a zombie,  ganoon effect sa kin.  Eh I was travelling in the US for awhile,  kasi to distance myself from the target of my murderous thoughts.  Eh baka ako naman masagasaan, so I stopped the meds.  Hiyang hiyang din yan.  Some say the meds help them sleep and rest their minds.  So see whatever is more to your needs.

As for the debts,  talk to your creditors to have some restructuring done.  Parang hindi ka masyado gipit. 

Just take it a day at a time. 
It helps to focus on your priorities for the day -- parang you can make your mind snap out of your misery &/or fear. 

If you find yourself acting as if you are in limbo -- as in you can't get off your butt to attend to the things you should -- you may be in depression, and need temporary medical help.  Please just go and get help;  call Sis  SCORPIOWOLF for referrals. 

And remember, whatever you may have been or may have been forced to be like due to your family's definition of you --- it is never too late to re-invent yourself.  Stop letting them define you.  Just keep your peace, and do what you think is best for you. 

God bless.

(I am so happy Sis SCORPIOWOLF is on her way to where she eventually wants to be.   It is always so hard to take the 1st step. )




trinity8

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Re: Abused Women Support Group: Verbal, Physical, Emotional
« Reply #110 on: August 11, 2008, 10:12:53 pm »
sis scorpiowolf, couldn't pm you...i think it's because i'm a newbie?  i still do need to talk to someone.  i did take your advice about doing the list and my goodness!!! ang haba ng mga bad sa good.  can't deny the fact that things were really that bad...and to think di pa ako tapos sa list na yun.  i felt so bad...i just cried while adding to the bad things that happened to me.

sis aquacharly.kakahiya naman sayo but i really do appreciate it!  maybe one of these days, i might set up something with Rose.

the problem with my debts is that even if i did make arrangements, i am still not capable of paying any kind of amount, however small, to fix it.  it was not supposed to be my debt in the first place.  my partner dug this hole for me.  i've already received so many demand letters and countless times, i've tried to fix it and tried to tell my partner to help me but nothing happened.  since i am financially capable, wala ding nangyayari.  every time i decide to make payments, naapektuhan naman mga anak ko...wala na kaming kakainin.  i'm literally what you call mas mahirap pa sa daga.  i'm also not in a habit of borrowing money from others, baka lalo lang ako mabaon.

things have gotten really worse and i'm sinking really deep into my depression...i admit i've been taking medication to calm me down and put me to sleep, a desperate act on my part to just have a small amount of time to withdraw from everything.  pero after that, back to reality na naman ako.

i was raised to follow my family whether i like it or not.  i've tried countless times to re-invent myself but because they are old school, things aren't so easy to accomplish.  they still think that i don't work even if i leave the house everyday and pore over the computer the whole night.  it stresses me out that they tell me i'm good for nothing and that i'm a bad influence to my children....a lot more have been said. 

although on the bright side, my partner and i haven't been talking for almost a month now.  i tried to call him once but he didn't answer my call.  siya pa may ganang magalit sakin.  it hurts and i'm so sad that things have to be this way.

i have no more strength to show my kids, it's like i'm so wasted and i don't have the energy to keep up this charade that i'm ok.  but i guess this is my role in life?  i am happy that they are doing well and sometimes show me that i'm so far doing a good job for them but deep inside i feel so guilty that i can't do more....... :'( :'(

Paulo

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Re: Abused Women Support Group: Verbal, Physical, Emotional
« Reply #111 on: August 12, 2008, 01:22:28 am »
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Taking it one day at a time is also taking it one problem at a time.

First, you have to pick yourself up and fight the abuse.

The 2nd step is break free from the abusive relationship.

3rd, you have to collect yourself. Rebuild your life. Regain the confidence you've lost.

You probably are somewhere between the 2nd and 3rd step.

Until you're done with the 3rd step, you won't be in a position to tackle the rest of the problems life has assigned you. Which unfortunately includes debt payments and financial restructuring.

Such problems require a more objective, methodical, practical, and less distracted approach. You aren't capable of doing that yet. Certainly not now that you are battling depression. Like I mentioned earlier in the thread, that's where close friends, relatives and love ones come in.

As for your Part ... Clear your head muna, take it one day at a time, one problem at a time, and "just like a baby who's starting to walk for the first time, you too shall make it to the sofa" ... and that bit was from something I read from way back. You know what? It works. :) I'm sure in time, you'll get to make it work your own way too.



« Last Edit: August 12, 2008, 01:24:37 am by Paulo »

venetian

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Re: Abused Women Support Group: Verbal, Physical, Emotional
« Reply #112 on: August 14, 2008, 10:38:09 am »
Hey everyone, Im a newbie here, but I have been reading girltalk for the longest, especially re this topic. Never had the chance to register or post but i think I need a place to vent, or people to listen and I know you guys will be kind enough to listen, or read for that matter.
I feel the same pain being on the receiving end of an abusive relationship.  But the insights of Paulo and aquacharly are uplifting, objective and very sensible. Its good to have a place where we people can empathize and the support one needs esp in times of real crisis.
Like most everyone else in here, Im in a very abusive relationship-emotional,verbal and physical.  i  have been married 7 years, no kids yet, desperately wanting one though. My husband and I had a whirlwind romance, very passionate at the start but very chaotic when we get into fights.  It started as verbal abuse, blaming me for how miserable he feels, accusing me of flirting with other men, or even downright having an affair, i never had any.  Things got worse after we got married, then the physical abuse started.  I had pics and video of my bruises, thinking someday, i'll be able to use it against him.  most of the time he would hit me on the head, just so I dont have to show bruises to the public. One time I went to work with a bruised lip and I jsut made up stories to my coworkers. 
It has been years and years of fighting. And as was mentioned, there were good times in between the episodes of abuse.  Like most would write in here, I probably provoked him to abuse me physically. But reading thru, i think to myself how low my self esteem has gotten.  Modesty aside, I think I have evrything to be proud of, I have a good job, financially doing well here overseas, I can wing it even without his financial support. I have always been an honor student, but thinking about it, I feel I am the stupidest of all to stick in this marriage. I mean, I probably dont have anything to lose, we dont have any kids yet.  i would think to myself, that God hasn't given me a child yet because He's leading me to another path. But OMG, He knows how much I want one. But that;s another topic.

It's very different here, I have prevented myself from calling the police whenever he would hurt me, because he'll go to jail in an instant. I have threatened him though many times i'll call on the police.

No one knows my situation, I kept it from my sisters/brothers,my parents are both dead.  I kept it from my friends, thay all think i lead a charmed life, but it's otherwise.  I would always retreat and curl up in my room and spend time crying. I attempted suicide 2x by taking pills but didnt go to the hospital for fear of questioning, just slept thru it, but I was very afraid it could have taken me for dead.  I tried doing psych therapy here, they gave me meds for depression but I didnt take it. and I just didnt continue.  My doc says Im at high risk for clinical depression given my background of loss of my parents.  Thats probably why I couldn't let go. There's so much fear of saying goodbye, of doing it, even if it's extremely painful to stay.

How do I start letting go, how do I leave? Im still very confused if I'll stay and pray for things to get better, like for some-it turned out to be better, or do I just turn around and leave?

I had read today over the net regarding an experiment, they put a rat in a round bucket of water, with high walls in complete darkness and they measured how long it tried to live. It only lived for 3 minutes. Then they put another rat in a bucket but let a sliver of light through, and the rat lived through 36 hours trying to swim.

I feel like i'm the rat without any light and I think it maybe just easier to give up.


aquacharly

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Re: Abused Women Support Group: Verbal, Physical, Emotional
« Reply #113 on: August 18, 2008, 02:28:43 am »
^VENICE,  there is light, always, wherever you are now -- even if it is a hard, cold phase in your life.

Just please look for it. 
Find it in prayers.  Find it in the strength that is in you -- that strength that,  inspite of your "living with the enemy",  enabled you to nurture a career and keep up the facade of a normal marriage.

IF it is LOVE that makes you endure it all -- then, bear in mind that a good woman knows when to work harder at it and when to leave.  It is you and nobody else who decides when to stop hoping; when to leave, even while still loving.  But pray, pray everyday for Divine Guidance and Protection. 

Now, dear, do not think you are stupid for enduring it all.   Believe me, you are not the 1st intelligent, educated woman to be led down a garden path of lies; nor will you be the last.  LOVE, unfortunately,  has the power to suspend common sense and self-love.

Moreover,  do not punish yourself for your sad marriage.   No spouse is 100% faultless; but you should not claim 100% of the blame.  That is what you do when you attempt to end your life;  taking blame for what is due your husband.  Be fair to yourself.  Actually,  give credit where credit is due -- meaning,  if only you could tell him:  "you go ahead, finish yourself off;  I may  follow you after you're gone".

Now, VENICE, IF  it is FEAR that is keeping you glued to your "marriage" -- then you can start on an Exit Game Plan sooner.    You are financially independent -- that is half of  the game plan already.  "FLIGHT OR FIGHT'  is the instinctive response to FEAR.   Dear,  it is not "flight, fight or FREEZE"  ("freezing" should just be a momentary option).    Actually, you have thought it out already and appear to prefer "FIGHT" (hence the documentation of injuries); but you have suspended implementation.    Now, please do not wait too long. 

Next time he hits you -- go the whole hog,  regardless of his spending a mini vacation behind bars.  This is not the time to let PITY dictate on you.  VENICE,  take note that if no competent intervention occurs, generally  --  a physical abuser will not stop the violence until  the abused is killed or the abused kills the abuser in self defense.   That is what records of the courts and police convey.   So do not let PITY or  a prolonged "freeze" bring you to the point of no-choice.   

VENICE, is it possible that what is keeping you back is FEAR OF LOSS OF FACE?  Now, do not your family/the general public define you; coz they will never fully know what you endure.   Dear, a failed marriage of an abused is not a mark of personal failure, nor indicative of a less-strong character.   It is just a mixture of bad luck and events, leave it at that.   

Now, VENICE -- let your Survival Instinct reign freely.  Yes, use it to keep you away from more plans to do yourself in.  Use it to make you realize that medical intervention can bring you only so far.  The buck stops with you -- it is you who must decide to stop your downward spiral into greater depression. 

IF you do not gather yourself now -- you may lose your career and the financial independence it brings you.  IF you should handicap yourself to debilitating depression,  dear -- it is just like you did see the light at the end of the tunnel but you decided to turn your back on it, or shut your eyes. 

So get hold of yourself.  Decide,  think out an Exit Game Plan, and make that 1st small step away from "Freeze".   

As for wishing for a child -- the timing is not right;  and grossly unfair to a child.  A child is meant to be a product of love;  entitled to a peaceful, loving home (preferably with 2 not just 1 loving parents).   So ask God for a child when you have re-settled into a happier life.

A child will not make your husband's nasty and violent nature disappear.  (Of course, we should not discount a miracle happens).  Generally,  my impression has been that children of abusers become probable abuse victims too.  VENICE, your heart will break loudly when your husband extends his abuse to your child.  Spare yourself another big heartache.   Ask God for the blessing of a child when you are in a happier place.   

So, please focus:  The Best Revenge lies in living a better/happier life.  Wouldn't you feel liberated when you can tell your abuser:  "I can do better, I can live happy."   

We, your friends here,  will pray you will soon make that 1st small concrete pro-active step that will get you nearer your hoped for change in your husband,  or exit + revenge.  It is always your choice.

God bless, VENICE.







betrayed0403

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Re: Abused Women Support Group: Verbal, Physical, Emotional
« Reply #114 on: August 19, 2008, 02:47:46 pm »
^sis venice, you're in a way more blessed compared to abused wives out here who have children... at least, walang batang natra-trauma...

when you're in a relationship, expect to get hurt. given 'yon... but you also must learn how to draw the line. i don't think God created us to be miserable.  while He does tell us to submit to our husbands... He also commanded husbands to love their wives.

letting go may be very difficult... but if you're going to lose a part of yourself on that marriage, you have to get out at all cost.


Paulo

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Re: Abused Women Support Group: Verbal, Physical, Emotional
« Reply #115 on: August 19, 2008, 10:49:26 pm »
^^^
The rat didn't die because the took the light away, Venice. It didn't die because it lost hope. Light signifies hope it that experiment, right? It probably served as Hope too for the rat. But when they took the light away, it actually got disoriented. The rat isn't physically equipped to keep swimming, so being in that position without any direction, no light, nothing to see, instinct took over and it probably panicked to the point of drowning. That doesn't happen to a real live person because his reason equips him to logically assess the odds and compliment it with a counter reaction.

Let's take on another experiment. Something that involves an animal with more brain power and more human-like instinct. Monkeys.

In this experiment they placed 5 monkeys in a cage, that had a banana attached on top of a pole. When a monkey tries to get the banana it triggers a cold shower that sprays all the monkeys. After a few runs at the banana the monkeys stops the attempt. What they do now is replace 2 of the monkeys with brand new ones. The two new ones of course, immediately goes to grab the banana. The other 3 (original monkeys) stop the attempt to the point of beating up the 2 new monkeys.

They turn off the cold shower, replace the 3 original monkeys one by one, with 3 new ones, and what happens? Everytime a new monkey joins them and makes a run at the banana, the other monkeys gang up on him and beat him. Why? Not because of the cold shower anymore because these new monkeys haven't experienced that yet. They just beat the monkey that goes for the banana simply because .... that's just the way it is done around here. And that, my friend, is how Company Policy works. ;) Ha-ha-ha-ha.

But seriously now, my point is, if you look carefully at the traits that makes an abuse victim you'd notice that a lot of them are accomplished, promising, intelligent, and competitive women. Easily, the best at what they do. Which in turn makes them PROUD women, ... or at least that's how the world sees them. And such Pride is what got them to stick to the abuse.

They think of the ideal, and unconsciously associate themselves with that. Unconsciously, as go-getters, they associate themselves with "perfection" too. Or at least are so passionate about it, that just like the new set of Monkeys, refuses to give-up the relationship because apparently, that's how to live one's life perfectly, .... or at least that's what everyone does.  That's what everyone expect you to do. Successful people have successful relationships. That's how everyone sees it.

There's a chance that your fear doesn't center on saying goodbye or being alone. It could be that your number one fear is Fear of Failure. That even to the point of being abused, you refuse to give up and would rather slug it out hoping that a spotless record is still attainable.

So how do you start letting go?

First, You have let go of your marriage. Not that it's not workable anymore ha. But because you can't fix it while you are nothing more than the relationship's victim.

Secondly, let go of your Pride. You can prove that once you have enough courage to share your ordeal with people closest to you. Believe it or not, the way out of this slump is total acceptance, humility, acceptance of failure, coupled with the will to give what you deserve justice, then eventually the desire to move past the abuse. ... Or that's what I heard. If it were me, I'd simply say "Call the cops on him". ;)

If you're going to give-up on something, Venice. I suggest you give up on him. You give up on your Relationship. But never, ever, give up on yourself.

Here's hoping that helps.

scorpiowolf

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Re: Abused Women Support Group: Verbal, Physical, Emotional
« Reply #116 on: August 24, 2008, 07:36:23 am »
322Hi everyone!! Just thought Id update everyone here on this thread who have been soooooo supportive and understanding such as aquacharly, Paulo and the rest of you.

Well, THANK GOD Im doing a LOT better these days. Been going to my therapy sessions although honestly Im gettig lazy to show up and would rather save the money hehe What Ive been working on with the therapist is not anymore the abuse so to speak. What we're working on is self empowerment, namely helping me get back on my feet re personal, financial, and career goals and options.

2nd, I'm off my meds! YAY!!!! I weaned off the anti-depressants. At first I was scared about doing that bec I had an inkling the reason why Ive been feeling so much stronger and emotionally numb towards my soon to be ex-husband, is bec I was under the meds. However, LO and BEHOLD it wasn't the meds. Ive been feeling quite normal even after quitting the meds for more than a week now.

3rd, Im actually having FUN going out with my friends. Although I dont do it quite as often as I did back when I was in revenge/anger mode. But for the first time in a long time, Im feeling young again, free, and attractive hehe I would never have thought that I would still be actually "marketable' hehe but no worries... I have absoluely no intention of remotely even entertaining the thought of opening myself up to other men. Im not even into makng new male friends. Im just liking the ego trip once in a while after years of being told by my husband when on a rage, how ugly and hateful I am.

4th, UPDATE on EX-H. OMG he has been stalking me when I do go out. I know of at least 4x that he would really watch me from afar or wait in the car outside the bar to check on who would drive me home. He admitted this to me. Also, what do you know? EX-H started flipping out after I called his bluff on wanting an anulment. He freaked out when he found out I had already contacted my lawyer and was prepared waaayyyyyy before im. Now IM THE ONE whos pushing or the anulment. Hes the one who made pakiusap to postpone bec hes still hopinh daw we could fix things yada yada yada. (For all I know hes just making drama and buying time so we dont have to separate assets yet bec he has investment plans for them. I know abt this but K lang with me. Im not out to ruin his chances financially anyway) Now, he called earlier his week asking me to give US another try. To give it a chance. We eve met up and he was a very sorry and tearful ex=H kept asking what went wrong, etc etc etc. also my GOSH youll be surprised how hes been at his BEST behaviour. When he callsme hes his charming, loving, sweet, and witty self again just like when we were still single. Thing is, IM not moved by it right now. I dont care how nice he is and how sad and lonely he is. I dont care bec. UNLES he even realizes that HE HAS A PROBLEM (which he still wont acknowledge) and seeks long term help... nothing as in NOTHING will change in him even if hes the saddest, most lovingly remorseful person. But heck, Im not going to hold my breath and wait for him to relaize that. It might never even happen. But in the meantime I refuse to get sucked back into the cycle by taking his emotional spiels to heart too seriously.

I just feel bad that even HE doesnt realize the gravity of his verbal abuse. He even tearfully asked me why I thought of him as a physically abusive guy when he never naman daw slapped me etc etc. As if the shoving, pushing to the floor, pinning down wasnt physically abusive. (Although this only happened about 2-3x a year but still). The only time whe we talked in person I became tearful again was when I said "Don't worry. Im still hurting but for what its worth I want to tell you that in my heart I forgive you." And I really meant that

Lastly Im utterly surprised that despite of how crazy I was over this guy before. Now that hes here fervently asking for a chance. I totally do not feel the desire to fix things any more. Mch to my exs surprise of course. I was ssooooo afaid Id run back to him any chance I get, or an little show of emotion from him. But now,it actually SCARES me that I DONT feel anything except pity. I PRAY AND HOPE THIS IS NOT JUST A PHASE and that its for real.

Thing is. I guess it had to take almost 3 months of minimal contact to realy break my "addiction" to him. It was the hardest thing to do. I still remember how painful it was... days and days I couldnt even eat or get ut of bed (NOW MY GOSH Im gaining the weight back so quickly!!! Im back to my pre-separation weight and eating normally)Now, I still think about him everyday. But its not like I even miss him at all.

So, to eeryone out there. Please don lose hope. Life can still be so beautiful for all of us. Its goin to be tough and I still have soooo many challenges and struggles I need to endure. But it gets better everyday. I still would not trade having a happy intact family for this new freedom that I have. BUT I also would never want to go back to a relationship that killed my spirit day in and day out. I wouldnt say Im happier now, as I was happiest during the good tims with my ex-H and our son. But now I am sooooo much more at peace with myselfand everyone else. At least now, I call the shots for myself. I dont feel stifled in such a way that I live my life "walking on eggshells"

Thanks to everyone. for all your prayers and support.

Sis trinity i PMed you. Just call me

« Last Edit: August 24, 2008, 08:14:19 am by scorpiowolf »

Paulo

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Re: Abused Women Support Group: Verbal, Physical, Emotional
« Reply #117 on: August 24, 2008, 06:13:28 pm »
Congratulations on your new found freedom, Scorpiowolf.

The good thing about recovering through a well laid, professional assisted program, is you don't get to replace weakness with hatred. The fact that you've forgiven your husband for what he has done, but are strong enough to stand independently, shows you that you're on the right track.

I agree. You should avoid romantic relationships for the mean time. Definitely while you're still in the recovery stage. The last thing you need is to be dragged back. Not that the next "male-animal" ;) you meet will be as domineering. It's just that it's safest, wisest, and well, more considerate to yourself, your family (even your husband is still family, right?) and to others as well, to fly by your recovery all by yourself.

Sabi nga ni Aquacharly, "Wife Should be Beautiful" .... Or maybe that was "LIFE" and not "Wife"? Whatever. Good luck! :)

scorpiowolf

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Re: Abused Women Support Group: Verbal, Physical, Emotional
« Reply #118 on: August 25, 2008, 04:25:53 am »
^ I agree Paulo. The therapy has really helped. Actually looking back, the turning point was when I realized I really has a problem and that not all his promises nor hope in the world will change my husband. This was when I saw Rose Yenko. Thanks to aquacharly.

Whew... have a long way to go still in my recovery. But at the same time Im proud of the progress Ive made.

Hahahaha you really like that "male animal" term huh? I cut and paste that lang from a website hehe

Im actually very lucky also in the sense that my family has been soooooo supportive. Also, that my husband is a very good dad. He really sees my son often and supports my son. In a way that takes a load off me in the sense that my separating with my husband did NOT deprive my son of quality time with his dad. Bec my son still needs a father and Im happy my husband is doing his part.

Thanks again Paulo

aquacharly

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Re: Abused Women Support Group: Verbal, Physical, Emotional
« Reply #119 on: August 31, 2008, 10:48:23 pm »
PAOLO --- ooops,  yes you are right, it's   LIFE SHOULD BE BEAUTIFUL

SCORPIOWOLF -- congratulations!  Your bounce-back serves as an inspiration to all here.   Let us pray that the others likewise take that 1st Step that Paolo rightly pointed out is the prerequisite to it all.   My dear, I am so happy and proud of you!   :)

But keep on praying that you will continue to have the strength to overcome your doubts and any spots of depression/regret.  Keep it up.

God bless, all here. 

 

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