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KVsWahmmy

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Re: President Digong Administration 2016-2022
« Reply #80 on: June 03, 2016, 11:23:45 pm »
Napanood ko din yung video- and I don't think the point is whether we ALL find it offensive or not. It WAS OFFENSIVE for the person involved - Mariz, and of course her husband.

From the way Mariz responded to it, she just wanted her question answered, but no, Duterte delved on his 'joke' - any woman in that position would feel offended.

Same here sis Spacemonkey, what's with the 'playing you guys' or 'you don't understand his strategy'? Campaign season's OVER. This is work na - no time for games.

And yes,  TomHansen: Right now, he's the man-who-can-do-no-wrong to them. Lagi syang tama. Kahit anong mali nya, his supporters can find a way to make him 'tama'.


I want to support him too. Because really, we all don't have a choice. He IS president. Pero ngayon pa lang, press con pa lang - hindi ko na maintindihan ang direksyon na gusto nyang patunguhan. Gusto nya bang bwisitin ang press? Ipinaparating ba nyang sya palagi ang tama?

I mean after saying he had 'freedom of expression' he actually DENIED he was whistling at Mariz, he justified it as 'exasparated with the question' kaya sya sumisipol. I mean really? The entire context of what he said before and after the whistling was not even related to the question.

So next time ba na may sumipol sa inyo sa kalsada ok lang? Matutuwa kayo kasi compliment yun? Pag ginawa sa anak nyo? Ok lang din, palalagpasin nyo? Or pinalalagpas lang dahil si Duterte yon?

So far the only thing he did RIGHT is his most recent announcement. No more press cons muna daw. Sa PTV-4 na lang daw sya mag-announce. Maigi nga. Pagisipan nya muna yung lalabas sa bibig nya.








« Last Edit: June 03, 2016, 11:34:18 pm by KVsWahmmy »

FOURever

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Re: President Digong Administration 2016-2022
« Reply #81 on: June 04, 2016, 04:39:52 am »
Sis tomhansen, siguro kasi opinion board din ito :)

I said i was disappointed with what happened. And if the reporter got offended, dapag lang magsorry si duterte. Magsorry because may naoffend, not necessarily because what he did was harrassment.

But then again, from what i see, it's all a plan. He knows he is not prim and proper, hindi diplomatic and yet it looks like uncontrollable siya. He knows many people will get angry. Pero bakit pa rin ginagawa? We'll see after several days kapag nakaupo na siya. That's the time malalaman natin na haka haka lang pala yung mga tactics na sinasabi o totoo pala talaga.
« Last Edit: June 04, 2016, 05:21:39 am by FOURever »

mei-mei

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Re: President Digong Administration 2016-2022
« Reply #82 on: June 04, 2016, 10:32:37 am »
The whistling/catcall is offensive. Mariz is a close friend of mine and she has always been super nice — does not think badly of people as much as she can. But she did get offended. Mariz went there as a professional. They were not in a beer house that people would still think that wolf whistle or catcalling is not offensive. It was a press conference and she was doing her professional job. The wolf whistle, catcall, and serenade were just plain wrong.

What I dislike more is people defending those actions in social media and even blaming Mariz to be overly sensitive. She’s not. We are in 2016 already, not 1956. Catcalling is an act inherently associated to graver acts of harassment, sexual abuse, and rape. We cannot cover it with “men are men” or “ganun talaga mga lalake” or, horrors, “it’s a compliment”. Those actions disrespect women. You don’t do those to people you respect. If we want change, if we want less cases of sexual abuses, we must teach our men to respect women. It is easy for any man to abuse women if they didn’t learn to respect them.

spacemonkey

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Re: President Digong Administration 2016-2022
« Reply #83 on: June 04, 2016, 11:25:46 am »
Sis tomhansen, siguro kasi opinion board din ito :)

I said i was disappointed with what happened. And if the reporter got offended, dapag lang magsorry si duterte. Magsorry because may naoffend, not necessarily because what he did was harrassment.

But then again, from what i see, it's all a plan. He knows he is not prim and proper, hindi diplomatic and yet it looks like uncontrollable siya. He knows many people will get angry. Pero bakit pa rin ginagawa? We'll see after several days kapag nakaupo na siya. That's the time malalaman natin na haka haka lang pala yung mga tactics na sinasabi o totoo pala talaga.

walang 'grand plan' yan si Duterte. nag damage control na nga eh.

you mean to say, he hardly presented plans or platforms when he was campaigning, but all along planned on offending people along the way with his 'blunders'? thats... laughable. lol





im baffled that some women still do not know where to draw the line on harassment.



dismembered

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Re: President Digong Administration 2016-2022
« Reply #84 on: June 04, 2016, 12:10:22 pm »
Eh di mag file sya ng kaso. Tapos. Galit na galit kayo. Eh compliment daw nga. Iba pagkakaintindi nyo sa pagkakaintindi ng matanda eh. Some women I know di naman sila nabastusan. Depende sa pagkaka deliver yan. Kaya kung offended sya eh di mag file sya ng kaso af magdemand ng public apology.

Yung mga bumoto sa kanya na alam naman na ganyan sya wag kayong mag expect na maiinis sila. Binoto nila as is. Alam naman nila na may pagka ganyan talaga eh. So again. Sorry na lang. Parang katulad ni Carlos Celdran hindi matatahimik ang haters dahil lahat puounahin.

MisCalculus

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Re: President Digong Administration 2016-2022
« Reply #85 on: June 04, 2016, 01:23:38 pm »
Sa catcalling / whistling ako magcocomment - for me, it was really offensive, and (sabi nga ni raffy tima) improper on all levels. Alam ko naman kung anong uri ng tao yung binoto, but some things are just cannot be overlooked.

Sana pare-parehas na may natutunan ang both camps, lalo na kina P.Digong.
Sya na din nagsabi that he will not change for anything. Ayun nga, nag-announce na kahapon na hindi na daw sya magpapa-presscon. Iwas na lang na malagay uli sa ganun situation.
Wait na lang tayo pagka upo nya kasi may Press Secretary naman na haharap for him sa media. Sana umayos naman si Buddy Panelo (another tactless guy hayy).



mei-mei

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Re: President Digong Administration 2016-2022
« Reply #86 on: June 04, 2016, 02:25:53 pm »
I'll repost lang what my cousin posted whose family, btw, voted for Duterte.

"The election campaigns have long passed. There's no point in trying to viciously defend Duterte's flaws anymore. Understandable lang yan during the campaign period when all candidates have their share of merits and flaws. You believed that despite his flaws, he was the better man compared to others.

Ngayon panalo na siya. It's time to TRULY support the president by CONDEMNING the bad things he has done in addition to praising the good things he has done. Duterte is human - you know he has flaws. If you want the president to be perfect, then you should be on board in making sure the flaws are pointed out and corrected, not shamefully tolerated and defended. Wala naman mawawala sa kanya."

TomHansen

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Re: President Digong Administration 2016-2022
« Reply #87 on: June 04, 2016, 02:55:36 pm »
Most will just bend over for duts, bend their views tungkol sa pambabastos niya just so they can protect their ego sa pagboto sa kanya. Titigil nga siya sa pagpapapres con pero yung ugali niya pa rin di nagbabago. Papaano na kapag nakikipag-usap na siya sa ibang bansa, mahirap bang magpakadisente? Hindi ba pwedeng magaling kang pinuno and at the same time marunong kang rumespeto ng babae? :(

rensky

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Re: President Digong Administration 2016-2022
« Reply #88 on: June 04, 2016, 03:10:50 pm »
I am more concerned sa pagbili ng giant Telcos na Globe and PLDT sa Frequency meron si San Miguel Beer. While most people are so focus on the whistling/cat calling ni Du30,barely 3 weeks bago umupo si Du30 meron ng last minute signing of contract between these 3 companies. I'm not sure anong say ng NTC Commissioner dito? I'm not saying na balewalein na yun recent issue ni President Du30 pero sana naman tignan din natin at pag-ukulan din ng attention ng mga tao/media yang mga last minute na contract signing/agreement na yan. What this will mean to us faster internet speed kuno pero super taas ng internet charges. Wag lang tayo focus sa isang topic at ilan days pag-ussapan at pagddebatihan.

catherine ann

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Re: President Digong Administration 2016-2022
« Reply #89 on: June 04, 2016, 04:17:17 pm »
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qf0zXeFgwm0

Rappler's Pia Ranada and GMA7's Mariz Umali share a car ride with Rody Duterte on his way to the Davao City bar he calls his "watering hole."

MisCalculus

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Re: President Digong Administration 2016-2022
« Reply #90 on: June 04, 2016, 04:54:39 pm »
^ based sa nabasa ko sa kabilang forum, P. Digong knows Mariz kahit noon pa.

@TomHansen, gaya nga ng napost ko Digong himself said he will not change. Di mo mapipilit yung tao kung ayaw nya. But he also said once that he will try to tame pag nakaupo na sya.
kaya nga para iwas gulo na lang hindi na muna sya magpapapresscon. And do you honestly believe that he would behave like that sa pakikipag usap sa ibang bansa i.e., foreign dignitaries?

Tapos na yan, baka by this time hindi na sya big deal kay Mariz. Magmove on na. Gaya nga ng sabi ni @resnky may iba pang bagay na dapat pagtuunan ng pansin.



cutemama

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Re: President Digong Administration 2016-2022
« Reply #91 on: June 04, 2016, 05:50:28 pm »
I wonder ano kaya reaction ng mga tao kung si doriz begornia ang sinipulan niya.. ganito rin kaya ka big deal..

mei-mei

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Re: President Digong Administration 2016-2022
« Reply #92 on: June 04, 2016, 06:15:50 pm »
^ To clarify on that, Mariz has interviewed him before. They're NOT friends. Any girl can get offended with such acts especially if you're not close.

If people insist on defending the action as non-offensive, probably it's because they still insist to see it with their archaic values. A lot of female Duterte supporters admit it was wrong (Liza Dino, Pia Cayetano, etc.).

I do hope we can move on to more important things than fanatics continuing to defend the act and even accusing Mariz now as "nabayaran", or asking for fame. You don't know her. I do. She has upright values, worked hard her entire life to graduate top of her class since grade school, and took longer in the news world to be noticed precisely because she insisted on working righteously & honestly without papansin moves. She's never the type who wants fame. She's only doing what she loves and giving her best into it.
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letters_to_cleo

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Re: President Digong Administration 2016-2022
« Reply #93 on: June 04, 2016, 06:27:44 pm »
Rensky. Dyan din ako napipikon  minsanactually. Yung sense of context ng news sa media, mas inuuna pa yung issue sa catcalling kesa yung issue na sobrang laki ng epekto sa ating everyday lives like yung sa telecom deals.  Isa pang dapat i-highlight yung paglaya ni Col. Marcelino na kinulong ng 5 months na walang nakasampang kaso para lang magipit sya.  May kilala ako na mistah ni Col. Marcelino, nagkwento kung pano ginipit ng matataas na tao ang family nya at sya para lang patigilin sya sa paghuli sa druglords. Ang truth, yung anak nyang babae kinidnap at ni-rape nung 2009 ng isang drug syndicate para tumahimik siya pero tinuloy nya and then ayan.  Sa tingin ko, enough time na ang naubos about sa catcalling, mas interesado ako at sana mapagtuunan ng mga ibang tao yung kabulukan at sabwatan ng military at executive officials bakit ang mga kagaya ni Lt. Marcelino na nagtratrabaho ng tapat ang ginigipit noon ng mga nakaraang administration.  I look forward to him giving out the names and the operatives na pumigil sa mga trabaho ng matitinong sundalo at pulis na kagaya nila para masugpo ang droga sa bansa.

yelle

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Re: President Digong Administration 2016-2022
« Reply #94 on: June 04, 2016, 06:41:02 pm »
@TomHansen nuong mayor pa man siya nakikipag usap na rin yan sa ibang bansa at wala naman narinig na binastos niya o naging unprofessional siya.

Ma iba nga, ngayon pala ang thanks giving party niya sa Davao. According to my sis na nandun hindi pwedeng mag cover ang ibang networks except ptv4.

^sis dyan din ako interesado sa mga listahan na ipoprovide. Napanuod ko sa News5.
« Last Edit: June 04, 2016, 06:47:17 pm by yelle »

TomHansen

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Re: President Digong Administration 2016-2022
« Reply #95 on: June 04, 2016, 07:12:01 pm »
^ mabuti naman pala kung ganon, if gawin niya ang trabaho niya ng maayos then good kami pang tumutuligsa sa kanya unang matutuwa..

Ang amin lang is once na may kalokohan siyang gawin hindi masamang i-point yun sa kanya at sana lang wag siyang ipagtanggol ng fanatics niya - kaya rin naman humahaba is because his fanatics keep on defending him by giving wrong excuses(bisaya humor, out of context, misinterpreted, ginagalit lang ang media etc) imbes na tanggapin na nagkamali si president.

cutemama

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Re: President Digong Administration 2016-2022
« Reply #96 on: June 04, 2016, 07:43:55 pm »
Buti nga sa mga taga media.. nagpaplano iboycott si digong sila tuloy ang naboycott.. ano sila ngayon? Laking kawalan sa kanila ang decisyon ng camp no digong na hindi na sila mag papaunlak ng interviews or press con sa mga taga media.. sa PTV 4 na lang..

Ang hirap kasi sa ibang media like abs cbn ( FYI im a diehard kapamilya) tini-twist nila yung mga statements ni digong.

Tska dun sa binulgar ni digong na corruption sa media atleast mag iingat na ibang taga media ngayon lalo na at baka mag labas daw si digong ng lists ng mga corrupt  na journalist..

FOURever

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Re: President Digong Administration 2016-2022
« Reply #97 on: June 04, 2016, 09:10:28 pm »
As far as I know I am not defending digong. Sinabi ko rin na disappointed ako. But I am more focusing on other things kesa sa isang bagay na pinalaki na ng iba. Gusto ko sana na tulad ng pagpapalaki ng isang bagay, palakihin niyo rin kung ano ang mga importanteng bagay na sinabi niya. Kaso hindi mangyayari yun kahit sa media. Why? Kasi galit kayo sa kanya o hindi niyo siya gusto. Wala na akong magagawa dun. Pero hindi dahil ayaw niyo sa kanya, igegeneralize niyo na pinagtatanggol namin siya sa lahat. :) I can't wait na makaupo na siya. Lalong magngingitngit ang mga kaaway. Pinagdadasal ko rin na sana pumreno din siya sa pagsasalita kahit papano para lahat masaya.

At oo mabuti yan, wala na sanang media coverage sa kanya ang showbiz media. Tutal, sanay ang mga cheap media na yan na exaggerated ang headlines and articles makakuha lang ng rating.

Nakakaawa lang din sa social media, dapat maging vigilant tayo pero hindi dapat mag away away ang mga pilipino. Eh kaso, lahat ng tao "magagaling" hay.

Add ko lang: nanonood ako ng thanksgiving party nila ni cayetano. Ang dami niyang sinasabing magaganda o. Talagang palamura lang. Dami ko rin friends na laging nagmumura. Wala naman akong problema dun. Alam ko kasi mabait naman sila. :) pag usapan natin mga plano niya? Maiba naman. Puro ka-negahan na kasi nababasa ko from haters sa social media. "Walang magbabago kung di tayo willing magbago."
« Last Edit: June 04, 2016, 09:41:49 pm by FOURever »

yelle

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Re: President Digong Administration 2016-2022
« Reply #98 on: June 04, 2016, 10:29:29 pm »
A chance for the neglected

"PLEASE FIND THIS BADJAO KID;
I'D LIKE HIM TO WORK WITH ME


By Manny Piñol


Reading the story of Roben Abdella, the Badjao kid who graduated Magna Cum Laude, I now believe that there is a way out for them. If there is anybody out there who knows Roben Abdella personally, please tell him to get in touch with me. I would like to hire him in the Department of Agriculture and I will give him a specific task - to reach out to his fellow Badjaos and help them feel that there is a government which cares for them.

Actually, inspired by the inclusive governance started by President Duterte in his city, I have already identified a Muslim Maguindanao woman to be one of the Undersecretaries under the DA. Lawyer Ranibai Dilangalen, along with entrepreneurial management expert Pompee Laviña and high value crops advocate Evelyn Laviña (no relation) are among the people I will recommend to President Duterte to be appointed to join me in the DA as Undersecretary.

I have also recruited two young accountants, a Bilaan and a Kaulo which are both mountain tribes in Mindanao, to join the DA. There will also be efforts to recruit members of the Cordilleran tribes - Igorot, Ifugao or Kalinga - to help me in the agricultural concerns in the Mountain Provinces. I also intend to hire bright Mangyan kids to work with me in my program to turn Mindoro Island into a key food production area."
****
https://web.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=1034302339985568&id=351448724937603

Baka gusto niyong ishare ang post ni Sec. Manny sa fb page niya. I like the idea na mga undersecretaries na nirerecruit ay yung may mga karanasan at alam talaga sa agrikultula.

springblossom

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Re: President Digong Administration 2016-2022
« Reply #99 on: June 04, 2016, 11:00:18 pm »
come to think of it, i have male friends who catcalled me in parties, weddings, etc. just because i dressed up. i dont dressed up all the time so siguro naninibago sila but i never find it offensive. siguro kung tambay sa kanto na di ko naman kilala, yun maiinis ako hahaha!

and i agree let's move on. fanatics should stop defending him as well as his HATERS should also stop bashing him. and i propose no more press con for duterte. official statements nalang. dito sa uae hinde naman nagpapa presscon mga leaders dito. hinde din naman effective yung pa-barkada effect conversations ni duterte with the public. not everybody likes him and everybody has a say on how a national leader conducts himself. and honestly, media is just waiting for duterte to make mistakes. on endorsing national killings, please read the whole video on that and understand the things he said about it as a whole. hinde yung isang linya lang nya ang focus. 

anyways tuwang tuwa talaga ako sa oplan rody na pinapalaganap ngayon. sana this will be seriously implemented even after his term. so far i like his cabinet secretaries too, except dun kay mark villar. 


 

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