MAR ROXAS for 2016

[tennisgirl]

Re Duterte's plans: Kelangan manggaling mismo sa bibig nya kung anong plano nya, hindi yung ibang tao would speak for him. Eh kaso wala nga talaga or mangongopya na lang daw sya (Grade 1 pa lang nangongopya na sya). Yan ang sinabi nya sa last na presidential debate dba?

[myleskie]

Sis yelle: Sorry, sis, but I don't read posts about Duterte on fb. Dun ako kumukuha ng info sa mga reliable sources (websites of broadsheets) 

sorry sis...websites of broadsheets ba ang rappler?hahaha..kasi ikaw nagpopost karin from rappler eh. Ang daming post dito from other sisses na galing sa Philippine Daily Inquirer and Philippine Star defending the platform and facts about Duterte, hindi websites of broadsheets yan?

Hindi ba nanggaling sa bibig ni Duterte mga plano niya? nag TOP 1 ka sa survey tapos wala kang sinabi?? so naging pepe siya noong mga debates?..kunsabagay kay Roxas kasi e, This is a recording, paulit ulit ang tuwad na daan.tsk tsk

[dismembered]

sorry to butt in pero this is a very simple coding. i dont think a machine as complicated as the pcos would use something like this.

Hi Sis, hindi naman seryoso yun. Possible scenario lang using pseudo code kaya baka may palpak. At saka kahit PCOS pa yan, hindi naman dapat ganun ka complicated ang codes at hindi rin naman dapat mahirap basahin para maimplement ng tama ang algorithm at logic. At saka hindi naman ganun ka complicated ang PCOS machine

Yung unang labas at paggamit ng PCOS machine last election, madami na talagang issues at kakulangan sa security features. May independent groups na nagrereklamo dati sa COMELEC pero ewan ko na lang ang nangyari. Dati parang digital certificate ang may problema.

http://www.cenpeg.org/2010/sep/17_REASONS_WHY_THE_COMELEC_MUST_RELEASE_VITAL_PUBLIC_DOCUMENTS.html

Re Duterte's plans: Kelangan manggaling mismo sa bibig nya kung anong plano nya, hindi yung ibang tao would speak for him. Eh kaso wala nga talaga or mangongopya na lang daw sya (Grade 1 pa lang nangongopya na sya). Yan ang sinabi nya sa last na presidential debate dba?

Sis, may mali ba sa pangongopya kung tama naman ang paggagayahan? Ano ba itong pinaiiral dito? Pride ba na dapat original para lang masabi na magaling? I don't mind copying other strategy kung para sa ikabubuti ng bansa. At least di ba, sinasabing kokopyahin hindi yung basta grab na lang ng achievement at credit ng past administration?

[chiqmom]

I am confuse. This is obviously a Mar Roxas thread, why are there so many Duterte supporters here? 

[Vans]

^this is a general thread for mar roxas. It doesn't say "PRO-Mar Roxas only".

[myleskie]

I am confuse. This is obviously a Mar Roxas thread, why are there so many Duterte supporters here? 

Try to ask that question too at Duterte's thread..andami ding anti-duterte doon..My answer to your question is..this is a forum. 

[dismembered]

@dismembered: Lacking naman talaga. Diba democratic country ang Pinas? Eto ang meaning ng democracy:

1. a form of government in which people choose leaders by voting
2. government by the people; especially:   rule of the majority
3. a government in which the supreme power is vested in the people and exercised by them directly or indirectly through a system of representation usually involving periodically held free elections

Source:
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/democracy

So that means, kung ano yung gusto talagang marinig ng tao,yun dapat ang sundin ng president or candidate running for president as long as hindi makakasama sa bansa. Sa case ng Makati Business Club members, hindi nila narining kay Duterte ang ine-expect nila esp when it comes to economic policies. Syempre, businessmen sila at ang importante sa kanila ang paglago ng ekonomiya. And one more thing, Duterte is asking for their votes (di nga lang directly, para lang yang nag-aapply ka ng job sa isang company) which means he is applying for the position of President of this country. Sadly, he didn't pass the assessment   

You don't have to lecture about democracy. Anong kinalaman ng democracy sa pinaguusapan natin?Majority ba sa bansa businessmen? Sad truth, majority sa Pilipinas ay mga maliliit at ordinaryong tao. May kanya kanyang priority ang bawat admin. I guess alam mo naman ang ang main priority ni Duterte and yung kay Roxas. So dun sila nagkaiba. Kaya mabenta si Roxas sa MBC members dahil sa platforms nya, pero mabenta naman si Duterte sa small citizens dahil naman sa Platform nya. Kulang man sa businessmen pero para sa ordinaryong tao eh hindi naman kulang. Ganun din kay Roxas na may kulang sya sa ibang sector so I don't see any issue with that. Iba iba ang assessment ng iba't ibang sectors.

[chiqmom]

Try to ask that question too at Duterte's thread..andami ding anti-duterte doon..My answer to your question is..this is a forum. 

Is this a thread you are referring too? http://www.femalenetwork.com/girltalk/index.php/topic,293565.80.html Kasi I clearly can't see any Anti-Duterte post from page 5-10. I stop browsing na sa page 5.

[hunny_ally]

Madali lang naman malaman if may switching of votes. Source code review is part of the election process. SLI already concluded that it is counting 100% accurately. (Switching of the memory card is a whole different story)

http://cnnphilippines.com/news/2016/02/01/comelec-final-source-code-review-2016-elections.html

http://m.philstar.com/314192/show/f709c38839683f43218d700f7c92ddc8/?

Now if one would really think that there is indeed cheating, isn't it our obligation as a Filipino to report such? Bantayan ang boto. And by reporting I meant make a formal report and not merely posting it on social media and make it "trending". Tell it to the BEI, make a sworn statement. Pandigan kung ano ang nangyari.

[dismembered]

I am confuse. This is obviously a Mar Roxas thread, why are there so many Duterte supporters here? 

Quoting here the 1st post of the TS

Hi mga sis and bros! Heto may thread na si Mar Roxas. Dito na lang natin siya pag-usapan, whether positive man o negative para di tayo ma-off topic sa duterte thread.

Would you vote for him? Why or why not?

Kung ako tatanungin, no. Before mangyari iyong yolanda, neutral lang ako sa kanya. I neither like nor dislike him. Pero nung aftermath nung bagyo, sobrang naturn off ako na inuna niya pa politics kaysa sa kapakanan ng mga nasalanta.

That's the reason. So kung gusto nyo Mar Roxas Positive Feedbacks only na thread, baka pwedeng kayo na gumawa ng thread na yun.

[tennisgirl]

@dismembered: you don't have to lecture me too 

They just find it lacking kasi may gusto silang ibang marinig.

Dapat naman talaga kung anong gustong marining ng mga tao, yun ang ibibigay ng isang candidate for presidency gaya ni Duterte. Dapat magpa-impress sya para iboto sya dba? Ngayon, kaya ko isiningit ang meaning ng democracy is because ang mga presidentiables, since humihingi sila ng boto sa mga tao dapat kung ano gusto ng tao, ma-fulfill at ma-satisfy nila. Kung di nila magagawa yon, of course, bakit sila iboboto? Ang democratic gov't kasi is "ruled by the people" so again,ulitin ko, dapat taong bayan ang masusunod. Democracy is by the people and for the people. Unless na lang if Duterte wants another form of gov't under his rule.

Edited to add: Tanggapin natin ang reality na ang mga businessmen, although konti lang sila, ay sila talaga ang masusunod. They have the capacity to create businesses and jobs.

[j.adore]

This is a forum. If you want to talk to people with the same views as yours, go elsewhere.

Another POV on continuity = retain power
https://www.facebook.com/TheThinkingPinoy/videos/633527893460984/

Mar and the rest of the LP gang are either part of or is supported by the oligarchy system. This is also why they are so against Duterte and why our beloved president is oh so sipag to campaign for Mar. To hell with people dying and other current issues of the country..

Mar is just as indifferent and his priority is definitely not the people nor this country (take cues on his reactions and actions recently and in the past).

Continuity only benefits those who are enjoying their lives right now.

A country cannot be considered democratic if a handful is in control of it. It is fake democracy. Kung madami ang mahihirap sa bansa, at ang gobyerno ay para sa mayayaman lang, what do we have?



About the threatened cheating, it will not happen in the reading machines but in the internal counting system. Hindi daw naka-on ang security measures (see Anonymous Philippines threat). And wouldn't you be curious why there was a leak of voter data plus Malacanang streaming said data?
So, kahit na magpoll watcher ka pa, walang magagawa if they really want to manipulate results. You can report to BEI though. But COMELEC is under the yellow government so...what can be done?



No matter what I read up about Mar, end of the day, vested interest is still there. I don't want another president like that.

[chiqmom]

This is a forum. If you want to talk to people with the same views as yours, go elsewhere.

Yes, I just thought we can get the same respect that we are giving to the other thread. Never mind. I rest my case.

Quoting here the 1st post of the TS

That's the reason. So kung gusto nyo Mar Roxas Positive Feedbacks only na thread, baka pwedeng kayo na gumawa ng thread na yun.

I rest my case. One can't win an argument.

[dismembered]

@dismembered: you don't have to lecture me too  >:(Dapat naman talaga kung anong gustong marining ng mga tao, yun ang ibibigay ng isang candidate for presidency gaya ni Duterte. Dapat magpa-impress sya para iboto sya dba? Ngayon, kaya ko isiningit ang meaning ng democracy is because ang mga presidentiables, since humihingi sila ng boto sa mga tao dapat kung ano gusto ng tao, ma-fulfill at ma-satisfy nila. Kung di nila magagawa yon, of course, bakit sila iboboto? Ang democratic gov't kasi is "ruled by the people" so again,ulitin ko, dapat taong bayan ang masusunod. Democracy is by the people and for the people. Unless na lang if Duterte wants another form of gov't under his rule.

Sorry to disappoint you pero hindi mo pa rin ba gets kung bakit mabenta si Duterte? Kasi he is opposite of  your traditional politician, na kailangan mag bigay ng likeable speech at mag pa-impress. Sinasabi nya what he could offer either you accept it or not. Kung ayaw eh di wag iboto. Hindi kailangan magbigay ng bagay na hindi naman talaga magagawa for the sake lang na makakuha ng vote.

Edited to add: Tanggapin natin ang reality na ang mga businessmen, although konti lang sila, ay sila talaga ang masusunod. They have the capacity to create businesses and jobs.

Sayo na rin nanggaling. Yes, this is the reality kaya mabenta si Duterte ngayon. Dahil "sila" talaga ang masusunod. This is the reason kaya mababa ang rating ni Mar kasi pro oligarch sya na laging nasusunod.

[tennisgirl]

sorry sis...websites of broadsheets ba ang rappler?hahaha..kasi ikaw nagpopost karin from rappler eh. Ang daming post dito from other sisses na galing sa Philippine Daily Inquirer and Philippine Star defending the platform and facts about Duterte, hindi websites of broadsheets yan?

Hindi ba nanggaling sa bibig ni Duterte mga plano niya? nag TOP 1 ka sa survey tapos wala kang sinabi?? so naging pepe siya noong mga debates?..kunsabagay kay Roxas kasi e, This is a recording, paulit ulit ang tuwad na daan.tsk tsk

ah yes, rappler is not a broadsheet but is considered as one of the sources of reliable news online unlike fb. It was started by Maria Ressa, a reliable and respected journalist. 

It doesn't mean na pag Top 1 ka sa SURVEY ibig sabihin nailatag mo ng maayos ang plataporma mo. That is only a survey -  pwedeng magbago, pwedeng biased,at pwede rin nabayaran.

I agree na paulit-ulit si Mar sa tuwid na daan. Dinagdagan pa nga nya ng DISENTENG PILIPINAS. That means, meron syang concrete plans. 

 

[aktib]

We are trying to get your attention kaya kami nandito, its because we believe you know better about your candidate. Would you mind escalate this issue of cheating while testing?

https://twitter.com/chuckpancho/status/728410186835054592/photo/1

Since malapit ang kanditato nyo sa presidente, they have all the power, baka ngayon pa lang gusto nyo na iexercise and disenteng plataporma nyo.

[tennisgirl]

@dismembered: Tama ka, hindi ko talaga ma-gets kung bakit ang isang foul-mouthed na gaya ni Duterte ay gusto ng mga tao. It's either na-brainwash sila or they were not really thinking about the future of their country esp their children.

Dapat naman talaga likeable ang sinasabi ng candidate. Kasi nga, para silang nag-aapply ng trabaho. Diba pag iniinterview tayo, lahat ng sabihin natin pabor sa kumpanya? Marinigan ka lang ng medyo di pabor sa kumpanya out ka na sa list ng applicants dba? So sa case ni Duterte, hindi nya na-pleased ang mga businessmen. Period.

Kung ayaw eh di wag iboto. Hindi kailangan magbigay ng bagay na hindi naman talaga magagawa for the sake lang na makakuha ng vote.

Kaya nga di ko sya iboboto. Wala syang concrete plans for the country. Meeting adjourned.

[myleskie]

Is this a thread you are referring too? http://www.femalenetwork.com/girltalk/index.php/topic,293565.80.html Kasi I clearly can't see any Anti-Duterte post from page 5-10. I stop browsing na sa page 5.

Try mo magbackread pa more sis..
Eto yung sample.
http://www.femalenetwork.com/girltalk/index.php/topic,293565.0.html

nagmellow na siguro sila..wala na sigurong masabi or siguro nagsesearch pa sa google

[j.adore]

Yes, I just thought we can get the same respect that we are giving to the other thread. Never mind. I rest my case.

I rest my case. One can't win an argument.

So respect = PRO Mar in a general MAR thread?
There are forum rules so if some die-hard supporter called you names, minura ka, provoked you, and the like, you can report to the ADMIN. That is disrespect.


tennisgirl, there are articles online analyzing why people like Duterte even after all the things he's been saying. Nung una Davao support nagets ko pa but then the national support I don't get why so buti na lang there are people who shared why.

I don't get people saying they don't want an Oligarch anymore but think Duterte is not? His dad was a politician. His uncles and cousins are politicians. He and his family are politicians. They are oligarchs. If anyone can claim that he/she is not an oligarch, that would be Grace Poe.

Baka you mean political dynasty? PinoyMonkeyPride shows oligarchy in the Philippines.



And yes, same lang naman sa ibang thread. Not sure why it should be a contest though?

[dismembered]

@dismembered: Tama ka, hindi ko talaga ma-gets kung bakit ang isang foul-mouthed na gaya ni Duterte ay gusto ng mga tao. It's either na-brainwash sila or they were not really thinking about the future of their country esp their children.

Dapat naman talaga likeable ang sinasabi ng candidate. Kasi nga, para silang nag-aapply ng trabaho. Diba pag iniinterview tayo, lahat ng sabihin natin pabor sa kumpanya? Marinigan ka lang ng medyo di pabor sa kumpanya out ka na sa list ng applicants dba? So sa case ni Duterte, hindi nya na-pleased ang mga businessmen. Period.

Kaya nga di ko sya iboboto. Wala syang concrete plans for the country. Meeting adjourned.

I-quote ko ito para makita ng iba ha. Kasi baka biglang i-delete.

He is just being true. Sawang sawa na ang mga tao sa mga politicians na paulit ulit at papogi pero wala naman talaga. Matagal ko ng sinabi ito pero hindi mo talaga gets. People like him kasi kung ano nakikita nila ngayon, yun talaga sya unlike yung ibang candidates na kunwari disente pero hindi pala. Kunwari mabait pero hindi pala. Marunong lang magbihis at magsalita ng maayos pero hindi naman pala maganda ang performance.

Sa businessman lang ba dapat magapply si Duterte? Example, kung gusto nila na maging "tuta" sya magpapaka "tuta" sya para lang makuha approval ng mga botanteng ito? Nah. Yan ang tinatawag na prinsipyo. Ewan ko lang sayo pero pag nag aapply ako ng trabaho kailangan ko sabihin kung ano talaga ang qualifications ko at hindi lang yung basta magsasalita lang ako ng maganda na kahit hindi naman para lang makuha ang job na yun. Iyan ba ang sinasabi mong disente? Iyan ba ang pagiging fair and righteous?

Wala syang concrete plan? Eto nanaman tayo sabi ng stop spreading wrong info. Mali kasi ang words mo. Actually meron syang plan pero hindi lang sya pasok sa kung ano gusto mong plan. So  yeah. tama lang talaga na hindi mo sya iboto.