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« Reply #560 on: May 06, 2016, 06:58:09 pm »
^the use of receipt was only finalized early March when the SC required it. There was a series of appeals made by COMELEC. It wasn't taken in consideration in COMELEC's timeline
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Re: MAR ROXAS for 2016
« Reply #561 on: May 06, 2016, 07:04:57 pm »
If there are still undecided voters, personal reasons why Mar is chosen do help to decide. No answer then no help ::)



In case of discrepancy, you can only go to the BEI personnel and log the case. They will separate the receipt daw. Not sure what happens afterwards though.. Maybe if there's a certain threshold to say it is an "alarming" issue, that's when they review the tally?

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« Reply #562 on: May 06, 2016, 07:22:18 pm »
You cut it out :) Wouldn't Federalism remove oligarchy in the country? Decentralize power and money from the metro?

My opinion is it won't. With our culture, even if we move to federalism, we will still elect the same political families to be heads of each state. Mag-iiba lang titles nila pero sila at sila pa din. Initially, I was for a parliamentary republic but then, may reservation ako kasi we only get to vote who will be the ministers but they get to choose who will be our prime minister. I imagined if the voted ministers were our congress, sa palakasan system ng mga kinaiinisan kong politicos, there's a huge possibility of Gloria being a PM again. :(  I also don't think we can afford a change in government at this time. But I am for decentralizing money from the metro.

For me, ang pinaka-sagot ko talaga to stop political dynasties is to push for better education. Let good schools be affordable. Let poor kids have better access to education. Once people are more educated, we can make bolder statements with our votes and eventually weed out incompetent people from our government. This year, we really had poor choices for presidentiables. If only there is power in abstain, we could have made a statement. But right now kasi, abstention won't work.

Another way is to increase salaries of government officials in high office. Let's say someone is a good leader in a huge company and has a track record of running the business well. Why would he give up his corporate career that pays him a minimum of P1M a month to be president of a country which is far more problematic for only P150k a month? Hanggat hindi nila tinataasan ang sweldo gov't officials, ang makukuha lang nila ay yun mga taong gahaman sa power at corrupt. Singapore pays its ministers millions of dollars a year (PM is $1.7M); Obama is paid $450k a year; etc. Compare with Philippines - $40k a year.  ;D ;D ;D
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Re: MAR ROXAS for 2016
« Reply #563 on: May 06, 2016, 07:27:08 pm »
OO nga naman sis..Tama naman yun..huwag magbigay ng kung ano-anung conclusion..pero sila pwede..

Anyways, The mayor must be sitting pretty now, relaxing on his couch..nagkakape. waiting for May 9? no, waiting for Malaca√Ďang to welcome him with a big "WELCOME"..habang ang mga ibang candidates eh nakikipag usap na kung sino sino para lang siya mapabagsak..nagbabayad ng mga ads against Digong to make him look like an evil. Strategy fail.

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« Reply #564 on: May 06, 2016, 07:46:21 pm »
@myleskie: Yes, aminado naman ako na Rappler is not a broadsheet, anong problema dun? Anong nakakatawa? Well unless na lang kung flaming ka. Atsaka I'm talking about reliable sources unlike fb and twitter ng kung sino-sinong tao and personal blogs. Kung FB or Twitter account yan ng CNN (for example), pagaaksayahan ko pa ng panahon na basahin.

And so what kung laking mayaman, grad ng Wharlton School of Economics, naka-eyeglasses at matagal ng pulitiko si Mar? Nagkataon lang na isa sya sa mga privileged na Filipino. May problema ba dun? Kung ayaw mo syang iboto, who cares? It's your decision. Atleast si Mar never ka nyang siniraan.

@dismembered: Go ahead i-quote mo  8)

So you mean, "what you see is what you get" from Duterte? People described him as disrespectful sa babae, sa ibang world leaders, foul-mouthed, womanizer, undecisive...so yun sya?

Ano ba pagkakaintindi mo sa salitang "prinsipyo"?

In a job interview, pagkatapos mo sabihin ang mga qualifications mo, how do you answer the interviewer's questions? Madaling magbigay ng sagot pero sa tinging mo ba agree sayo yung interviewer or kung sino mang representative nung company? Sila pa rin ang magdedecide if you are fit for the position you are applying for. As for Duterte's case, the businessmen think that he's not qualified for the highest position in the Philippines kaya nasabi nila na he lacked substance.

Hehe...eh ano ba ang plano ni Duterte sa Pinas? Yung concrete and realistic ha?! Pano nya i-execute? ;D Anong masasabi nya sa dispute sa West Phil Sea? Anong plano nya sa krimen? Sa mga poorest of the poor? Sa NPA at Abu Sayyaf? Ill-gotten wealth ng mga Marcoses? Palilibing ba nya si Marcos sa Libingan ng mga Bayani kahit na ayaw ng mga Pilipino?

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« Reply #565 on: May 06, 2016, 08:01:50 pm »
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So you mean, "what you see is what you get" from Duterte? People described him as disrespectful sa babae, sa ibang world leaders, foul-mouthed, womanizer, undecisive...so yun sya?

O sige pagbibigyan kita. Ipagpalagay natin ganyan sya. Oh eh di ayun sya. Pero ang tanong, yan lang ba sya? O meron pa syang ibang qualities na meron sya na kailangan ng bansa? Yung pagiging magaling nyang leader hindi mo ba naconsider din yun? Like what I keep on telling you, lahat sila may negative dahil walang perfect. Pero pinipili sya ng tao dahil sa positive qualities nya.

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In a job interview, pagkatapos mo sabihin ang mga qualifications mo, how do you answer the interviewer's questions? Madaling magbigay ng sagot pero sa tinging mo ba agree sayo yung interviewer or kung sino mang representative nung company? Sila pa rin ang magdedecide if you are fit for the position you are applying for. As for Duterte's case, the businessmen think that he's not qualified for the highest position in the Philippines kaya nasabi nila na he lacked substance.

Iba ang job sa public service. Kaya hindi mo pwedeng i-bida ang sarili mo kung hindi naman ikaw talaga yun. Ilang kandidato na ba ang nagbigay ng good promises na hindi natupad? Di ka pa ba nauumay? Saka di ba, hindi lang naman businessmen ang kailangan nyan i-please? So by your logic, kung ayaw nila, eh di wag. Pero ang problema, hindi lang sila ang tao sa Pilipinas.


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Hehe...eh ano ba ang plano ni Duterte sa Pinas? Yung concrete and realistic ha?! Pano nya i-execute? ;D Anong masasabi nya sa dispute sa West Phil Sea? Anong plano nya sa krimen? Sa mga poorest of the poor? Sa NPA at Abu Sayyaf? Ill-gotten wealth ng mga Marcoses? Palilibing ba nya si Marcos sa Libingan ng mga Bayani kahit na ayaw ng mga Pilipino?

Kulit mo naman sis. Kaka quote ko lang ng platform nya sa previous conversation natin. Kung binasa mo yun hindi ka na magtatanong kasi andun na mismo ang sagot sa tanong mo. Gusto mo ulitin ko sayo? O gusto mo sya mismo personally magsasabi sa iyo? Pero sinabi nya na eh. Kaya nga naka post na sa article. Basahin mo kasi! Rappler yan wag ka mag alala hindi FB post.

http://www.rappler.com/nation/politics/elections/2016/118670-rodrigo-duterte-alan-cayetano-platform

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« Reply #566 on: May 06, 2016, 08:19:42 pm »
^Alam mo, noon pa ako nakukulitan sa'yo pero never kitang sinabihan ng "makulit". Be mindful of your words  >:(

Funny, but I can't open yung link na binigay mo. Rappler yon dba? Bakit yung ibang Rappler links nabubuksan ko except for this one? How ironic  ???  ;D

To be honest, I also considered him for president. But I decided not to kasi dahil na rin sa mga binibitiwan nyang salita and decisions.

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« Reply #567 on: May 06, 2016, 08:24:59 pm »
Don't be that mad if the supporter will say let us not speculate or jump into conclusion. Expect it they will defend their bets as much as you are doing to your presidential candidate.

1. Kapag nanalo si Mar may dayaan na talaga.... what if we the supporters will say that to your bet? Do you like it?

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Nagmamakaawa na si Mar na mag withdraw si Poe thinking na mapupunta ang boto sa kanya.

I forgot this one but thanks for the link to update us. For me the sentence is misleading, akala ko tuloy literally Mar is begging to Poe.

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« Reply #568 on: May 06, 2016, 08:35:38 pm »
^Alam mo, noon pa ako nakukulitan sa'yo pero never kitang sinabihan ng "makulit". Be mindful of your words  >:(

Funny, but I can't open yung link na binigay mo. Rappler yon dba? Bakit yung ibang Rappler links nabubuksan ko except for this one? How ironic  ???  ;D

To be honest, I also considered him for president. But I decided not to kasi dahil na rin sa mga binibitiwan nyang salita and decisions.

Masama ba magsabi ng makulit kung makulit talaga? Did I demean you? Paulit ulit kasi you are asking and sagot ako ng sagot. Hindi ba makulit yun? Chill lang sis, wag daw carried away ng emotions.

How Ironic hindi lang pala ang mata ang pwedeng magbubulag bulagan at ang isipan na pwedeng magsara sarahan. Pwede rin pala na pati internet browser na selective websites lang ang gustong mapuntahan. :D

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I forgot this one but thanks for the link to update us. For me the sentence is misleading, akala ko tuloy literally Mar is begging to Poe.

Sorry po. Misleading. Sabihin na lang natin Mar is asking for Poe's cooperation. Si Poe na mismo nagsabi alam naman daw ni Mar ang number nya pero bakit kailangan pa sa Media magsabi. Sabi din ni Poe, "I always maintain decency, unity. Ano pa ba ang pag-uusapan natin sa puntong ito?" Let's not jump into conclusion. Ano pa ba ang pwede nilang pagusapan?
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« Reply #569 on: May 06, 2016, 08:52:07 pm »
^I myself is still waiting for the update  ;)

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« Reply #570 on: May 06, 2016, 09:19:56 pm »
^^Oo masama. Di ka dapat nagsasalita ng mga ganyang words sa mga taong di mo naman kilala personally, hindi mo kaibigan. Yan ang sinasabi ng ilang GTs dito na respeto sa ibang tao. Ikaw din don't be carried away with your emotions. Kahit nakukulitan ka na, you don't have the right to say that to a person especially kung di mo kilala. Gaya ng sinabi ko, ako din nakukulitan na syo, pero di kita sinabihan ng makulit.

Ayaw din siguro ng browser ko kay Duterte  ;D  ;)

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« Reply #571 on: May 06, 2016, 09:29:41 pm »
^ Ok sorry if offended you if nasabihan ka ng makulit. I don't know how to rephrase yung pagiging makulit ng hindi ka maooffend. Meron ka bang alternative word? Aminado akong makulit. Hindi ako offended pero masakit lang sa ulo mag explain sa ayaw makinig tapos magtatanong pero hindi naman makikinig. haha. Now I know kung bakit ayaw mo kay Duterte. Siguro madali kang maoffend. But then, being makulit isn't demeaning. Peace.
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« Reply #572 on: May 06, 2016, 10:14:49 pm »
Mar is so desperate haha, biruin mo "makikipag-usap" (magmamakaawa) sya sa isa pang candidate na magsanib pwersa sila just to make sure na hindi manalo yung TOP candidate, kung hindi nyo pa matatawag na desperate yan ewan ko na lang.

{"The whole point is to get even two of them unite.. then we have more than 40 percent," Aquino said.
Poe said on Thursday she had no intention of pulling out (barado agad)}

Mahirap talaga paliwanagan ang mga taong sadyang sarado na ang pag iisip, kaya wag na paulit ulit sa katatanong kung anong platform ni DU30 kasi hindi din naman pakikinggan at lalong lalo na hindi din naman iintindihin. I thank you. Bow.
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« Reply #573 on: May 06, 2016, 11:05:04 pm »
Kaya hindi maka connect si Mar sa mga tao kase what he wants to project as a selfless act of wanting to continue the "progress" we are experiencing now is seen by many as a desperate act to stay in power. Kitang-kita kase yung gusto ng mga Aquino na ally nila yung nakaupong presidente.

Sayang lang si Mar, he may have his flaws pero marami din naman siyang nagawa. Bitbit niya lang talaga yung baggages ng current administration. Lahat ng kapalpakan nila siya sumasalo ngayon.
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« Reply #574 on: May 07, 2016, 02:26:18 am »
Dismembered, I was able to open the link to the Rappler article you gave.  One click.  Hayaan mo na sis yung mga talgang sadyang sarado ang pag-iisip.  Ilang beses ka na nag-explain kaso di pa din magets eh  ;D  I applaud you and the other GTalkers for tirelessly defending our candidate.  #Du30PaDin

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« Reply #575 on: May 07, 2016, 07:34:40 am »
I believe most of the supporters here are respecting others decision of choosing other candidate. But we have to be careful of not being off topic. There is proper thread where you can post your appreciation, adoration, or even defend too hard about the candidate you want.

Mahirap kasi yung napupunta na sa ibang candidate yung topic in which we all know or aware na may guidelines naman tayong sinusunod dito.

Since this is the topic about Mar then still expect that supporters will also defend him. But refrain from attacking too personal already especially to the supporters like kinukunsinti pandaraya whereas I haven't seen anyone here na agree sila sa pandaraya and so on.

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« Reply #576 on: May 07, 2016, 07:47:29 am »
^ Thanks, sis, for stressing that. I believe how we behave here in forums, especially when discussions become heated, are more or less how we are in our real lives outside this forum.
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« Reply #577 on: May 07, 2016, 07:58:50 am »
Anyway, have you all participated in James Deakin's mock polls? https://apps.facebook.com/my-surveys/form/mock-polls-who-is-your-tandem?hc_location=ufi

Here is the result, so far. https://www.facebook.com/james.deakin/photos/p.1007979695956642/1007979695956642/?type=1&theater

As expected, some people commented it's either hacked or James is paid by LP. Funny lang because he is neutral and doing the mock polls out of curiosity. He was also surprised of the result being different from the wide SWS surveys.

This is an interesting analysis of the results by one of his friends who is an engineer (so understands probability and random sampling):

"A paid survey is normally conducted by low level employees whose goal is to finish his job right away. Normally they will only interview people of the same intellect and social level i.e. the easiest are their co-workers, maids, drivers, janitors, security guards, for short people who wouldn't mind being bothered for a few minutes. That same sampling is the same as your circle. Random sample nga eh. But these are the lot that those Pulse Asia and SWS didn't bother reaching out to. If your survery proved otherwise then DU30 will win. Your circle are just the quite type, but significant, as they will vote.

The maids, Secuirity guards, etc. cannot vote as they are all registered hundreds of kilometers away. Logistically they cannot vote. Same as here inside my showroom, everyone is for DU30. But when I asked if they will vote, they replied they cannot vote daw or will not bother voting. But most of the people who voted in your poll are able and willing and inspired to defeat Duterte. My staff who are DU30 have no incentive to waste their precious time, thinking DU30 will win anyway. And when the difference isn't more than 5%, Roxas and Robredo will win."



It also makes sense then why, when asked in the Silent Majority group of 290+k people if any of them has ever been asked in those surveys, wala talaga ni isa. And people were asking saan ba nangyayari yun surveys? How come it's weird not 1 of Mar's supporters in that group was even asked?
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« Reply #578 on: May 07, 2016, 08:29:31 am »
Sa survey na yan isa ako sa mga hindi pa nakakasali dyan  :D but I am registered voter. Sa totoo lang hindi ko masyadong binibigyan ng pansin ang survey. Mas gusto ko na lang magrely sa botohan mismo.

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« Reply #579 on: May 07, 2016, 08:42:29 am »
^sabi nga ni Binay, the real survey is on Election Day. For once, I agree with him

 


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