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yelle

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Re: Duterte for 2016
« Reply #60 on: June 28, 2015, 02:32:27 pm »
Sis, wag kang mag alala hindi po ako inaatake sa puso. Yun nga eh you're so quick to judge  ni hindi mo naman naranasan tumira ng matagal sa Davao. Bumabase ka lang sa nababasa mo sa internet. Tapos yung mga sissies natin dito who said about their personal experience eh hindi ka naniniwala.

^ ikaw naman ang exagg dito simula palang nung page 1.lol ;D

Sigh I rest my case. Basahin mo na din lang sa internet mga achievement niya. SMH  :-X



But still, I don't want Duterte to run. Mahina na siya. Masakitin na. I prefer he rest in davao nalang. After all, hindi na mababago ang Pilipinas. Why? Because change will not just come from him. Nabago niya ang Davao because Davaweños wanted the change, wanted the better life. pero kung buong Pilipinas na ang paguusapan, people are okay with what they have now. Sanay na sila sa krimen. They don't want to change anything. Naging comfort zone na nila kung anong meron sila ngayon eh. sanay na sila sa dumi, krimen, corruption, at sanay na silang nakakakita ng mga bata sa lansangan na nagrurugby. Kung ang pilipino mismo ang ayaw sa pagbabago, wala ring magagawa si Duterte dun. Itatago lang yan ng mga tao ang mga krimen, kukunsintihin ang mga kriminal.

@sis Tatrix, that's true nasa mga tao din talaga kung gusto ng pagbabago. Nalala mo ba kung gaano ka notorious ang Agdao, Boulevard at Bangkerohan dati? Sobrang gulo. Natutuwa lang ako ngayon nung pag bakasyon ko na productive na ang mga lugar na ito. Kung dati nag ra-riot mga kabataan dun, may mga patayan.
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super bratinella

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Re: Duterte for 2016
« Reply #61 on: June 28, 2015, 02:44:17 pm »
Lahat naman ng pulitiko may baho pero at the same time may accomplishments. I will settle sa may baho pero may leadership at may nagagawa para mapabago ang isang lipunan...

Our current president, walang baho kaya mas pinili ng marami plus napakaganda daw ng family background pero if you look back kung ano ang accomplishment niya na nagawa sa senado..WALA!!!

So where are we now?

yelle

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Re: Duterte for 2016
« Reply #62 on: June 28, 2015, 02:55:01 pm »
^ ultimo presidente and bise presidente nga nasasangkot. Ang importante eh may nagawa hindi yung puro pangungurakot lang.

@super bratinella Sis kumusta na ba ang Davao ngayon sis balita ko marami ng itinatayong establishments diyan? Sana lang mauna yung mrt o lrt bago pa man dumami ang buildings diyan.

This happened last June 25 with business leaders in Asia:
snipped from -champagne supernova-

Business leaders and the press at the Asian CEO Forum waiting for the man described in their invitation as "the greatest city mayor in the history of the Philippines" —Rodrigo Roa Duterte. -Peter Tiu Lavina

In spite of saying he is not running, Mayor Rody Duterte won the admiration of top CEOs and COOs who know well that timing is important in decision-making in business as well as in politics. Expats were the most disappointed. No, not because the mayor was definite in not running, but because they cannot vote for him in 2016. - Peter Tiu Lavina

Davao City Mayor Rodrigo Duterte gets a warm reception from the CEOs of Asia who attended a special forum with the mayor as guest speaker. The event was held at Diamond Residences in the heart of Makati City the Binay country. -Serafin Ledesma Jr


source: ASIAN CEO Forum
« Last Edit: June 28, 2015, 03:19:21 pm by yelle »

Leven

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Re: Duterte for 2016
« Reply #63 on: June 28, 2015, 03:26:03 pm »
Yuck..isa pa yan..si PNOY. kay Duterte nalang ako kaysa kay PNOY..I'm not a Noytard..no way! saang lugar nga ba yung sigaw ng sigaw ng PNOY noon? Si PNOY daw kasi hindi corrupt..hehe..Tapos ngayon gusto na naman daw nila yung death penalty, kamay na bakal.  kasi paikot ikot lang naman ang tuwid na daan ni PNOY. PNOY for me ang pinakamalaking mali ng Pinas, lalo na pag iapprove niya yang BBL..so kung palitan pa natin yan ng isa pang bobo, na iiendorso ng BBL..hindi na mag rurugby ang mga kabataan sis, wala na talagang bata makikita sa kalye. nakabaon na sa lupa. :-\

If you can just backread, nakabase ang husband(military) ko sa Davao sis so hindi lang sa internet ako bumabase at lalong hindi sa bugso ng minority..I so much respect your opinion about Duterte. Let's just respect each others opinion as long as hindi kwentong kalye lang Besides we're looking for a president not an action star sa isang pelikula. OO nga sis kumusta na ang mga establishments diyan? Mga malls? Ilan nga ba yan sis? Anong petsa na bang Mayor si Duterte diyan?

The largest city in the Philippines is Davao City. With an area of 2211 sq. km., it is about three times the size of the national capital, Metro Manila.....but bakit mas maraming buildings o establishments ang mga maliliit na City sa Pinas..Do I need to site these cities? o baka sabihin mo na namang judgemental ako.
« Last Edit: June 28, 2015, 03:28:28 pm by Leven »

super bratinella

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Re: Duterte for 2016
« Reply #64 on: June 28, 2015, 03:52:56 pm »
Hindi ako sa Davao nakabase ngayon..pero sa Davao ako pinanganak until mag teenager but now based in Manila.

Anyhow sa mga survey naman-- anak ng namayapang action star naman ang leading eh.. So let us how will our fellowmen change their hearts and mind in choosing the next leader..Pnoy's term was the biggest mistake of all time, epic fail kung baga..

Leven

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Re: Duterte for 2016
« Reply #65 on: June 28, 2015, 04:22:06 pm »
Worst mistake sis..Palagi naman talaga palpak tong PNOY.

If we vote Duterte, We are handing over our right  as a citizen, the right to defend yourself. the right to be accused and acquitted, the right to be declared innocent until proven guilty. You are giving that away. Rizal and our founding fathers fought for us to have these laws and you just give it away... to feel safe.

kumbaga safe nga, but you are not free. Pano kung ikaw maging suspect ni Duterte in one case? Unwillingly lang or by accident. What if you were in the wrong place at the wrong time?
What if you were one of the little kids that were executed for drug peddling by the Davao Death squad (to which I'm sure you deny Duterte's connection).
Are you saying a Mayor is above the constitution of the Philippines?
Anyways, the solution isn't having an iron fist. The solution isn't to be free and liberal. Balance lang dapat.  Duterte is too extreme. Any extreme will lead to innocent lives lost and people getting drunk with power. If he really wanted to change things, he needs to go to the supreme court. Linisin ang Supreme Court and hell Ya! tsugihin ang mga traydor(patawad lord)hehe.  Not with guns or pictures of dead people as trophies/warnings on tv. A clue is when the UN is calling Duterte's acts a human rights issue. Human rights issue is no joke.

If Duterte's methods work without innocent casualties, then the rest of the world would've copied it. Duterte's methods are that of what we had in the Medieval age. Where Kings ruled and judged and executed. The rest of the world has moved on from that age and we haven't.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universal_Declaration_of_Human_Rights

And plueasee..Of course bet siya ng mga businessman for protection..This gahaman businessmen na walang ginawa kundi ang magpayaman ng magpayaman..peace.

Mas feel ko si Duterte sa DILG. May may common sense kaysa iba jan. Based on what he did last Yolanda, mas may sense of urgency siya kaysa kay Roxas o kay Pnoy. We badly need him more sa DILG. People like him should be in DILG.

I like Grace Poe. mas bata, may angas and hindi madaldal(unlike Cayetano and Escudero). I also like how she stood with the Mamasapano massacre, to think kaibigan nila mga Aquino. She said that Pnoy is responsible for Mamasapano outcome. Somehow, she's not kissin ass, as what I expected. But I just hope may concrete resolution lang talaga siya sa peace and order.. I haven't decided pa talaga kung sino iboboto..it's better to know first the platform of governance every presidential aspirants can do to the filipino people before giving him or our vote on election day..let’s start voting for platforms rather than for personalities.
« Last Edit: June 28, 2015, 04:28:00 pm by Leven »

yelle

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Re: Duterte for 2016
« Reply #66 on: June 28, 2015, 06:18:14 pm »
^ Pag si Pnoy ang usapan sang-ayon ako sayo dyan. ;)

I respect your opinion too pero kailangan ko din ipahayag dito yung experience ko under Duterte's leadership.

Free naman mga tao sa Davao sis. Paano ko ba ipapaliwanag sayo to? Only the people living in Davao can attest to this. Magbakasyon ka sa Davao sis I suggest. Then balikan mo ako at sabihin kung ano ba talaga ngayayari doon. Tahimik ba talaga o hindi, free ba o hindi. Kasi unless hindi mo na experience ang tumira doon hindi ko tatanggapin ang mga pasaring mo.

Ganito yan hindi naman basta basta nanghuhuli yan ng walang investigation. Let's take for instance the case of David Tan aka Davidson Banggayan. Minatyagan nila yan at nung may evidence na saka nila piniresenta sa senado ang ebidensiya.

May evidence ka ba na pinapatay nga ni Duterte yang mga yan? Alam mo ba ang history ng lugar kung saan pinatay yung bata? That is one of the notorious places in Davao City before. Doon sa lugar na yung drugs and patayan galore. Ni kapwa minor pinapatay ang sariling minor dahil sa isyu ng droga at riot. Hindi naman napatunayan yan na si Duterte. Ang problema kasi nitong CHR at ni De Lima accuse ng accuse sila ng accuse wala namang ma-present na evidence. Kung may ebidensiya sila eh di i-file nila sa Ombudsman. Kaya hinahamon sila ni Duterte na mga hanap ng evidence. Kaya nga sabi niya sa mga kriminal lalabanan niya lang if they put up a fight against the law enforcers or the policemen.


And plueasee..Of course bet siya ng mga businessman for protection..This gahaman businessmen na walang ginawa kundi ang magpayaman ng magpayaman..peace.

Mas feel ko si Duterte sa DILG. May may common sense kaysa iba jan. Based on what he did last Yolanda, mas may sense of urgency siya kaysa kay Roxas o kay Pnoy. We badly need him more sa DILG. People like him should be in DILG.

Evidence please... Saan mo po nabasa na bet siya ng businessmen para protektahan sila? Gahaman?? ??? Ang mga bussinessmen na sinasabi mo ang nagbibigay kabuhaya sa ating mga mamamayan di po ba? May karapatan sila ng magpayaman ng magpayaman. Eh kung wala ang mga investors na yan ano nalang kaya ang pilipinas ngayon? Kung galing lang naman sa sariling bulsa Aba may karapatan sila. Di tulad ni Binay, nagpayaman gamit ang pera ng makati. Sinabi nga ni Duterte "ayaw niya magpagamit" noong na interview siya kasi may nagalok sa kanya ng tulong for campaign.

Ang diko lang maintindihan sa mga punto mo sis it's as if you were already painting Duterte as a notorious dictator eh hindi naman niya ginagawa pa? ??? Di po ba sabi mo "the right to be declared innocent until proven guilty" Hindi pa nga guilty yung tao ay kung ano ano na sinasabi mo.





« Last Edit: June 28, 2015, 07:08:48 pm by yelle »

Tatrix

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Re: Duterte for 2016
« Reply #67 on: June 28, 2015, 08:14:25 pm »
Lol! This is funny. For someone who isnt in davao says pinapatay mga kabataan. Well, kung ganon, sana yung dalawa kong kababata edi patay na, instead na pinadala sila sa rehab ni Duterte mismo. Ngayon successful na pareho in their fields. Even they could attest na hindi lang sila ang tinulungan. But then kung ayaw ng tulong, nasa kanila na yun. Pero kailangan umalis na sa davao ng hindi na makapahamak ng ibang davaweños.

yelle

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Re: Duterte for 2016
« Reply #68 on: June 28, 2015, 10:55:15 pm »
^True sis. According to my mom who's a former oic parole and probation officer in region 11. May processo para sa mga offenders na ito. Katulad ng sa drugs, depende sa degree ng crime na na commit mo. Kapag ikaw ay nahuli a gumagamit o under the influence of drugs(1st offence) huhulihin at ipaparehab ka. Kapag ikaw ay naka recover na at nakalaya - kapag gumamit ka ulit ng droga, rehab nanaman bagsak mo(2nd offense). For instance sa 3rd offense, nahuli ka - you are under the influence of illegal drugs at nakapatay, naka rape, etc. depende sa degree ng krimen na ginawa mo. Sa 3rd offence pwede kang makasuhan na habambuhay na pagkabilanggo depende sa degree ng krimen. Dito yung mga offenders pwede pa ring maka request ng Parole kung sila ay nakapag serve na ng matagal tagal sa kulungan pero ito ay magdedepende pa rin. Para sa halimbawa na ito sa 2nd & 3rd offense na yun maapply yung sinabi ni duterte na it's either reform or get out of the city either horizontally or vertically

Sabi ng mom ko sa dinami-dami ng niyang nainterview at naimbestigahan sa loob ng 20+ years niyang panunungkulan sa gobyerno. Malaking percentage talaga na ang cause ng krimen ay dahil under the influence of illegal drugs mapa small fish o big fish man. Bago kasi ma-grant ang request ng parole ng isang kriminal may mga processo na dinadaan, at kapag ikaw ay nabigyan ng parole continuos pa rin yung investigation kung talagang totoo ngang nagbago.

Just like what happened in Brgy. Bangkerohan doon banda sa may market area katabi nung ilog maraming squatters diyan. Dating pugad ng mga addict at gang. Pero ano na ngayon? Productive na, mga kabataan diyan makikita mo nag-aaral na. How about Dewey Boulevard? Dati sobrang gulo ng lugar na ito, maraming nahuhuli at napapabalita na drug pushers at addict dyan. Pero ngayon ano na? Nakakapag operate na ng maayos ang mga small scale businesses, like  furniture shops, tailorings etc. Diyan pa nga ako nagpapatahi ng uniform ko dati.:D
« Last Edit: June 28, 2015, 11:12:33 pm by yelle »

Tatrix

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Re: Duterte for 2016
« Reply #69 on: June 29, 2015, 03:08:43 am »
^yun nga lang kasi sis, hindi naman pinapamedia kasi ni Duterte mga ginagawa niyang mabuti para sa mga kabataan sa Davao, hindi niya pinapalandakan mga naayos niyang lugar. Hindi tulad ng ibang politicians na kunwari tulong, yun pala bayad para botohin. Ang alam lang ng mga hindi taga Davao eh ang pangalang DDS takot na sila agad dahil sa words na "death squad".
« Last Edit: June 29, 2015, 09:11:06 pm by Tatrix »

Queen Chokolah

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Re: Duterte for 2016
« Reply #70 on: June 29, 2015, 02:59:54 pm »
If Davao is not free, then I'd rather be safe than free.

yelle

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Re: Duterte for 2016
« Reply #71 on: June 30, 2015, 01:37:23 pm »
^^ Oo nga sis, maraming nagawa si Duterte na hindi naman pinapa-media especially in television. We can't blame other people if that's how they perceive Davao City. Yun ang nakikita at nababasa nila sa news eh, na associate ang pangalan ng Davao City sa kaguluhan ng buong Mindanao. Kaya ang mga taong hindi naexperience ang siyudad ng Davao hirap silang maniwala. Mabuti nga nagkaroon ng social media para yung boses ng mga tao kahit papaano naririnig. Hindi lang nagbabase sa kung ano ang napapanuod o nababasa sa news. Nakakatuwa nga eh noong 2001 when I first went to Manila ang tanong sa akin ng mga kakilala ko eh "Kumusta ang Davao? Balita ko magulo doon." Napa huh? nalang ako. :D Pakiusap ko lang sana eh experience Davao city muna bago husgahan.

Free nga ba ang mga tao under Duterte's leadership? Please read below about LGBT & Anti Discrimination Law:

In Davao City, a landmark legislation against discrimination, Ordinance 0417-12 was passed in December 2012 : “An Act Declaring Unlawful, Acts and Conduct of Discrimination Based on Sex, Gender Identity, Sexual Orientation, Race, Color,Descent, National or Ethnic Origin, and Religious Affiliation or Beliefs and Penalizing the Same”

The ordinance defines discrimination as “any act, or conduct which withholds, excludes, restricts, curtails demeans human dignity, or otherwise impairs the recognition, enjoyment and exercise of human rights and basic freedoms in the economic, labor, social, cultural,educational or any other field of public life based on sex, gender identity,sexual orientation, race, color, descent, national or ethnic origin, and religious affiliation or beliefs.”
-source: http://mindanaotimes.net/lgbt-the-anti-discrimination-law-in-davao-city-proposed-national-law/

DUTERTE ON SAME SEX MARRIAGE: ‘BASTA KALIPAY SA TAO, OK KO’ (in visayan), which means "If that makes people happy, I am for it,." https://durianburgdavao.wordpress.com/2012/05/17/duterte-on-same-sex-marriage-basta-kalipay-sa-tao-ok-ko/


Mayor Duterte also said he would support any move to allow gay marriage saying "marriage is a personal matter that neither religion nor social pressure should curtail. Being married and marrying the person that you love is a matter of choice. Gays are supposed to have the equal rights and freedom as heterosexuals, including the freedom to marry and build a family." -nasho





« Last Edit: June 30, 2015, 04:18:22 pm by yelle »

yelle

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Re: Duterte for 2016
« Reply #72 on: August 13, 2015, 06:55:30 pm »
I'm looking forward to his final decision.

Duterte bares plans 'if' he runs for president - Rappler

“When I finally say I will run, I should be ready to assume full responsibility and not blame others for the mess I knew full well I would inherit,” Duterte explained.

He had been consistently rejecting the idea of running for president, claiming his age, financial status and his family hinder him from announcing his bid for the highest office of the land.

But the mayor, “for the sake of argument,” explained the changes he will make “if this unworthy Bisaya…should lead beyond the confines of Davao.”

Duterte also said that a leader must be a “strict taskmaster” who should replace inefficient cabinet members or heads of agencies who, if involved in corruption allegations, should face prosecution.

“It should not take a leader months of agonizing to choose a PNP chief, or to replace a jail warden who allows drug lords to continue with their deadly trade inside prison, abetted with luxurious lifestyles at that. It should take no more than 24 hours,” Duterte added, clearly alluding to President Benigno Aquino III.


http://www.rappler.com/nation/102381-duterte-bares-plans-if-runs-president

lilsaintsm0m

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Re: Duterte for 2016
« Reply #73 on: August 30, 2015, 01:09:18 pm »
Wag sana dayahin. Duterte and Bbm ako :)

three8one

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Re: Duterte for 2016
« Reply #74 on: August 30, 2015, 06:31:41 pm »
personally gusto ko yung progam ni duterte, parang an eye for an eye tooth for a tooth. wag lang maaabuso para sa personal interest.

kung ano ang ginawa mo sa kapwa mo yun din ang gagawin sayo. kung ninakawan mo ang kapwa mo, kukunin din sayo ang kabuuang halaga ng ninakaw mo. kung pumatay ka, mamamatay ka din.. simple lang naman din ang logic dun, kung ayaw mo ng marahas na gawain huwag ka gagawa ng marahas. walang kailangan patawarin kung walang gumagawa/nakagawa ng kasalanan. lahat ng bagay magrereflect yun ng ayon sa kung ano yung kinikilos ng isang indibiduwal.

monitoring lang si mayor kung napapaimplement ang batas, definitely hindi sya gagawa ng batas dahil meron at madami na tayong batas na hindi naipapatupad.

 ;)

ayi21

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Re: Duterte for 2016
« Reply #75 on: August 31, 2015, 10:41:44 pm »

karla1o

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Re: Duterte for 2016
« Reply #76 on: September 01, 2015, 09:26:59 pm »
I'd definitely vote for him if he runs for president. Initially, Poe ako, but then this INC issue came, tiklop siya eh, so that's a big disappointment for me.

Not quite sure about this but I remember Duterte saying "Pag ako presidente, madugo". I'm ready for that. I mean if you're not guilty of doing anything wrong, why would you be bothered?

imyourangel

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Re: Duterte for 2016
« Reply #77 on: September 01, 2015, 09:35:54 pm »
^Agree. Matatakot lang yung mga may anomalyang ginagawa.. Big disappointment talaga yung kay Poe lately. Tsk.

sarsingkit

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Re: Duterte for 2016
« Reply #78 on: September 01, 2015, 11:37:49 pm »
Yung concept kasi ng freedom sa Philippines, twisted na to some Filipinos eh. Freedom is not absolute. Alam naman na dapat natin yan. Maraming tao kasi inaabuso nila yung freedom nila.

The best thing I like about Duterte is his push for Federalism. It is drastic but I think it is about time. Masaydo na congested Metro Manila. Kahit ano pang gawin sa dami ng tao at traffic, mahirap na solusyunan kasi the quantity is just too much for the city to handle.

But then, Duterte needs a good VP.

Miss Taken

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Re: Duterte for 2016
« Reply #79 on: September 02, 2015, 12:23:56 am »
I think Duterte has a higher chance of running for the upcoming Presidential election since he's not denying about it anymore. He said that he just needs more time to convince his family. I will definitely vote him. This country needs a new leader.

 http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/717550/be-patient-rodrigo-duterte-tells-supporters

 

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