martial arts/self-defense

[sum.mer]

@akthung, where did you train JKD? Meron po ba dito sa Manila? thanks

[akthung]

Included to sa 2013 goal ko, kahit basic self defense lang. Actually, naniniwala ako that every woman should know some basic self defense. (-taken from Ms. Congeniality). Seriously though, sa panahon ngayon wala nang sinasanto ang mga holdaper, speaking from my experience. So let's do ourselves a favor, wala namang mawawala plus additional skills na din. Kikay outside, tough on the inside. 

better work on prevention. it's better. because they work in groups. and as per experience
may pride din ang mga yan. pag napahiya yan, they'll hunt you down.

nangyari sa akin yan. mabait ang diyos because when i saw them again nothing bad happened to me.

tsaka yung mga yan. matitindi ang physical conditioning. a lot of us here have lived soft beautiful lives.
iba sa atin, maskulado pero hindi bato.

sila, bato to the bone!! hampasin mo ng dos por dos yan sa hita, eh kakasa pa yan. iba training ng mga yan aside from being selected from a talented bunch of abled kids.

pwera pa dito yung naka drugs sila.

so better work on prevention, and decoys or better yan bring only what you can afford to lose.
keep a list of your cellphone contacts at home.

but of course, prepare for the worse na din. but pray that it will not happen.  continue lang sa spiritual practice. iba pa din yung happy life na walang gusot. hindi nababayaran ng pera ang emotional stress, trauma or injury.

[pinkk]

I opted for a younger trainor now for Filipino arnis referred by swim coach flor , put my guards down this time. I just thought it would be the same if i spend time at the gym when I could get my exercise with basic arnis. I also happen to read one sign from a place which i forgot where, that says "modified arnis" this got me interested if this young trainor might have something "modified"
Let's see what he has to offer. My husband's visitor would be coming over by last week of April.

[akthung]

i don't know about your gym sis

but with some of the gyms i've visited, they have this blanket of security when it comes to the martial arts,

we grow through sparring and full contact sparring.

some the very best teachers i know, have gruesome conditioning, training and sparring.

there's this teacher who was able to distil the teachings of Arnis/Kali. he was able to do away with all the BS common teachers do to make a living. my first day with him was gruesome. nagsitanggalan mga balat ko. pero yung mga senyores namin, ngi dog* brothers, walang maibuga.

so yeah, going out of the gym and training one on one with a teacher is good.

[pinkk]

@Akthung , you were right about many things..
Adapted from: sticksfistsbladesnpointythings.wordpress.com
That encounter highlights one of the many traps people fall into, especially the martial artists. They feel that if they learn this “Super martial art” or any martial art for that matter, that they will become invincible or unbeatable in fighting.

These people focus so much on learning that they forget that they should also master what they have learned after learning what was taught to them by their teachers or instructors. When you have not mastered a particular skill that you learned, you are prone to fail when the time comes to use it. These people then get disappointed and leave the school to find another style and or school that teaches the deadliest fighting art they can find. Soon after the process repeats itself again and this person is now learning another art at another school. As a great martial artist once said, “Fear the man who knows only one kick than the man who knows a thousand kicks.”

As I said before, there are no guarantees when you get into a fight. Fights are chaotic, messy, and nasty affairs. You are not guaranteed to win a fight only because you have trained in Jujutsu, Arnis, Silat, Karate, or any martial arts style. What a martial art does in practice is it increases your odds of neutralizing your attack or even avoiding it entirely

So the next time that you feel that your art isn’t really working out for you, just stick with it and train harder and smarter. That’s the only secret to success in the martial arts, you use your brains and brawn together to get maximum results for minimal effort. The martial arts is just as much a thinking man’s game as it is a physical one.

[akthung]

^ pati baril nga pinasok ko na din. we train like those you see in the magpul videos, less the BS of course.

speaking of baril, i've tried Krav Maga (hindi sa pinas)

and i like the fact that they have moves specific for opponents

with guns.

[pinkk]

I came back from my basic arnis singko teros offense this morning, and I would give my instructor a 10.
Background: arnis Lanada chapter.Started when he was at the age of 14. now in his 30s.
1st, very low profile humbled trainor, you could sense from the way he talks,moves and looks at people, palarong pambansa medialist, scholar. He is still trainning students, the pnp and private citizens.
2nd, He talks calmy and technically and knows how to guide a beginner professionally.
3rd, he used terminologies like muscle memory, dynamic stance( he knows what he's doing)
Introduced arnis starting from where, what, why do it and how to do it. He explained the difference of other fighting techniques.

**No offense meant on this but I used to observe some but not all, really old in 50s masters from Manila Taekwondo, who are not keen on good discipline and proper decorum for some reasons that I do not want to know**

[akthung]

maganda ang Lanada Arnis. My driver was able to formally train under Lanada's school when the Master was still alive.

as for TKD, yung first batch ng filipinos na tinuruan ng mga Koreans noon when they first visited the Philippines ang tunay na magaling. brutal ang training nila noon.

[pinkk]

maganda ang Lanada Arnis. My driver was able to formally train under Lanada's school when the Master was still alive.

as for TKD, yung first batch ng filipinos na tinuruan ng mga Koreans noon when they first visited the Philippines ang tunay na magaling. brutal ang training nila noon.

I'm now curious, brutal sa experienced fighters, o brutal sa basic learner?
Have you tried to sample practice with your driver from own practice?
Di ko naitanong sa instructor ko yan brutalan from his experience. Itatanong ko next week.
could you help me understand more this concept brutal from your experience and why lanada is good? Advice me with your povs.
Thank you Sir.

[akthung]

well,

MA in my opinion is based on the individual. it all boils down to the individual. Bruce Lee may have studied wing chun, but he was able to develop a style of his own. on the other hand there are many masters out there but only a few are able to be like the master.

for me maganda ang palo ng Lanada, malantik. simple.

training partner ko din yang driver ko noon. we'd spar sa boxing and arnis.

when i say Brutal, ibig sabihin, strict regiment. disiplinado. and most often, dahil strict...talagang makakaranas ka ng hirap.

yung ganitong hirap, hindi tatanggapin ng masa.


first day ko noon sa PTK, libo libong palo na pinagawa sa akin, sa gulong, sa ere etc. nagsisitanggalan mga balad ko sa kamay. dugoan na thumbs ko sa spar.

another would be full contact sparring. at times, wala pang armor. ginagawa ng mga sundalo natin yan.

basta ganun. hardcore stuff that will weed out the weak and bring out the strong and determined and maintain the quality of the teachings.

sa JKD nga namin, bihira ang babae na umaabot sa senior level. at sa mga nakakaabot, bihira ang tumatagal. ganun kahirap.

[telekikay]

bro akthung,

OT lang....san makikita yun seagal vs inosanto? meron ba talagang actual fight? interesado ako since JKD fan din ako.

[akthung]

nabasa ko yun sa diyaryo noong araw.

[Layla]

Anyone knows where I can learn Silat? Still waiting to hear from Philippine Pencak Silat Association.

[girlwithacape]

^^ Not sure where else you can learn Silat in Manila but at the PPSA. I used to train there about eight years ago and the people are inspiring and accommodating. Hope they give you a ring soon! :)

[Layla]

^Wow talaga? They still haven't replied. Hindi kasi masyadong kilala yung martial arts na yun dito e unlike sa Mindanao and of course Indonesia/Malaysia/SG. I really hope to hear from them. Right now, I'm learning Arnis/Kali/Eskrima and was thinking Silat would be a great addition sana.


Any girls into MMA/BJJ? Been thinking of taking BJJ kaso medyo hesitant kasi parang nakakailang, especially I'm sure I'd be partnered with a man kasi konti lang girls na nag-t-train nun. Sana may sumagot. 

[akthung]

maganda point mo sis. nahilig sister ko sa MMA. (i'm a former martial arts practitioner but i don't like MMA) and i tried looking for "female friendly" schools. mas marami talagang lalake haha.

but it's good training kasi, there is always that possibility that the person who will try to hurt you will be a man.

[rastagurl11]

^ I think most of the gyms today are female friendly, it's just that there's no one to be friendly with kasi most who learn BJJ/MMA/Wrestling are males. 

But I read and see about a certain gym (forgot which one it is, baka Ultimate Fitness or a gym in Makati) that has an all female BJJ class.

I was asked several times if I want to learn MMA/BJJ, I said not now, bec there are a lot of things to learn in MT; it's a lifetime of learning, I want to be really good at it muna before trying out the ground game. 

[Layla]

I guess I just need to be prepared to "wrestle" with a man. Hahaha. I would have to find a good gym/instructor though and yung female-friendly nga. Ok lang naman lalake wag lang sana mag-take advantage. I'm aware that minsan di maiiwasan na mahawakan kung saan saan; wag lang sana intentional.

^I agree sis. I have a lot to learn pa rin also sa MT and FMA. Pero I want to know basic ground fighting in case I find myself in that situation. I think baka Krav Maga pwede rin.

Anyway, thanks bro and sis sa insights!

[akthung]

I was asked several times if I want to learn MMA/BJJ, I said not now, bec there are a lot of things to learn in MT; it's a lifetime of learning, I want to be really good at it muna before trying out the ground game. 

alam mo sis, totoo yan. i've seen so many practitioners who are so confused. 

it takes a consciousness of a master to synthesize all the arts into one that will work for an individual. the martial art of synthesis is way different from synthesizing of the arts

karamihan eh, hindi pa magaling, nasisilawan na sa ibang art. most often its not the technique or style but creativity and physical conditioning. na kahit anong block ng opponent, sa lakas mo, tatagos ang simple suntok and simple sipa. ala Bruce Lee or Manny Pacquiao. yung teacher ko sa JKD, hindi ma armbar ng mga nakita kong BJJ. at hindi ma lock ng mga nag aiaikido. ganun katigas katawan niya. hence in my opinion, its better to master your Core art before incorporating the other arts.

i also think that its way better to train to fight standing up and train to heavily resist any attempt of your opponent to bring you down to the ground. for me, very last resort ang grappling. i'd rather stand up and pick a rock to throw at my opponent or pickup something and smash him with than go to the ground and grapple with him. training for multiple attacks is also important. something that a grappler will find hard to do.

[rastagurl11]

Layla: I'm sure there are gyms out there that offer good wrestling lessons and guys who'd roll with you and not take advantage. Krav Maga is really for practical situations kaya good rin siya if you really just want self-defense.

akthung: You can prolly call me a purist for being loyal to MT. MMA is developing a cult following, one can say na "uso" siya kaya others do it because they're joining the band wagon. I was never a fan of wrestling, whether Greco Roman yan or the WWE thingy pero with MMA, that's where I've come to realise the importance of that sport. I feel that I would understand the goings on of the game if I have wrestling background. I would understand half of what Joe Rogan is saying during UFC fights. Hahaha. Parati kasi, I dunnno what's going on when they're on the ground and I can't see the workings from the inside or under.

Imagine my frustration when the Olympic committee wants to remove wrestling. I just hope people would choose their discipline not because it looks cool or because their friends do it but because they like and appreciate the sport. Bonus nalang yung ibang reasons. 

Minsan sobrang biased ako like in MMA, once a fighter has MT background or if that's his discipline, I'd almost always root for that guy.  I'm not saying that MT is the best contact sport, depende talaga sa athlete yan. As a nak muay, I believe in the essence if the sport, kumbaga alam ko ang hirap na pinagdadaanan niyan sa training kaya mataas respeto ko diyan. Pero with MT, I also learned to respect other disciplines bec I know their chosen sport is not easy either. Committment talaga and humility.

MT is a lifetime of learning. Ang daming techniques na pwede imaster. I might just end up learning MT and not cross over to BJJ/MMA anymore but takedown and grappling skills aren't so bad but if one wants what's close to reality, it's really the stand up and striking. I can go on and on and on.