About MLM, Multi-level marketing or Networking

[berryblitz]

@super bratinella  and @mrs.bee   ano po yung mga sinalihan nyo?  nacurious lang 

[polar_bear]

hi mga sis, i just want to share my recent experience.  Gusto ko lang din ilabas [textspeak!] inis ko dito sa friend ko.  Please allow me..

Last week, a friend texted me and was asking if i know someone who is willing to work part-time, she said it was an advertising job, that the position is newly opened and was limited only.  So, I recommended my husband who is currently looking for a  part-time job.  I asked for more details about this part-time job, what exactly is the position, how much is the salary, what's the name of the company - the basic details.  She said it was an online advertising job and then she said that my husband should first attend a briefing.  I asked her if I could accompany my husband since he is not familiar in the vicinity.  I told my friend that while my husband is in the briefing, maybe we could catch up on our lives, you know.. chika chika muna.  She said that I am also welcome to join the briefing. 

So my husband asked his boss if he could adjust his working hours to an earlier time (which was not normally done).  He traveled all the way from Fairview just to go Makati, and it was raining that day.  So we met my friend an hour before the scheduled briefing, we kept on asking her for details, but she was very vague about it.  Sabi nya lang, ayoko pangunahan [textspeak!] magprepresent.  Mas maganda kung makinig na lang muna kame para mas maintindihan namin.  Kahit anong kulit namin na bigyan nya kme ng idea, eh hinde nya sinasagot, either she'll change the topic or will answer in a cryptic way.  Biniro namin na baka naman MLM yan.  Sabi nya what's wrong with MLM.  Naghinala na kme ni hubby na baka nga MLM un.  But I gave my friend the benefit of the doubt. Pinagtanggol ko pa [textspeak!] friend ko na why would she tell a lie to me.  Sabi nya advertising job eh. 

To cut the story, it was indeed an MLM! We were annoyed but we did not show it or tell my friend about it.  Sabi nila before the briefing, "NO COMMITMENTS (daw)".  We continued with the briefing and endured all their speeches on how great their incomes are, how they were able to afford luxuries and stuff because of this MLM company.  In the end, we gave our honest answer that the company and product are very good and that it was very enticing for us to join them but with our current situation, we could not shell out YET that much (37K) considering that we have other financial obligations at the moment.  We added that maybe by the end of this year or early next year, we will join them.  Eto na ngayon, since pwede ang credit card, pwede naman daw icredit card 12mos to pay.  OR baka daw may kilala kame na magpapahiram samin.  WHAT THE... there were about 3 persons (including my friend!!) insisting us na ipangutang nalang namin [textspeak!] P37,000.  Nagdiscuss pa [textspeak!] isa about the difference ng bad debt at good debt (as if di ko alam [textspeak!] difference!!!).  AKALA KO BA NO COMMITMENT?! eh bakit parang kinukulit ninyo kame na mangutang para makajoin.

Di pa dun natapos ang kwento, my friend texted me again, kinukulit nya ulit ako. Sabi ko sa kanya  "pasensya ka na, ok lang ba na hinde na MUNA kame magjoin..."  After that nakatanggap ako ng mga text from her.  Sabi nya mas risky daw [textspeak!] ginagawa namin na business (my husband is into car buy and sell, btw) unlike sa MLM nya.  Na mas malaki daw [textspeak!] nilabas namin for the car eh hinde naman daw weekly may bumibili ng kotse unlike sa supplements nila na weekly may bumibili.  And may mga sinabi pa siyang offending statements about how we handle our finances and about our lifestyle. I was really upset with her! How could she judged me and my husband's business in which she knows nothing about.  Wala naman syang first-hand experience in auto buy and sell.  And she's not in the position to tell me how I should handle my finances.  Wala naman syang pamilya na binubuhay.. solong katawan lang sya.  In fact, wala nga syang narinig from us at hinde nga kme nagalit sa kanya nung niloko nya kme sa "advertising job" nya.  Andami ko pwedeng sabihin sa kanyang negative, pero hinde ko na tinuloy, I still value our friendship and I hope marealize nyang nagcross na sya ng bounderies. 

Sabi pa pala nya "TRUST ME, I will help you all throughout with your journey to this MLM"  DUH!!  How can i trust her kung sa umpisa palang nagsinungaling na sya saamin.  Nawalan tuloy ako ng gana na sumali pa sa kanila kahit gusto ko [textspeak!] product and compensation scheme.  Kung puro pagsisinungaling at panghuhusga ng tao naman ang ituturo sakin para makapagrecruit. Wag nalang.   


 

[mrs.bee]

@polar_bear: ang tawag namin dyan is "KIDNAP. Marami ang naiinis sa ganyang klase na approach ng ibang nasa MLM. Kaya kami yung mga members namin kinakausap talaga namin na bawal ang ganun. Kasi if you are proud sa ginagawa mo bakit kelangan mong manloko ng tao just to present your business. Saka respect na rin sa mga nainvite at sa presentor. Kaya marami ang negative sa MLM dahil sa mga ganyang tao.

[mrs.bee]

@super bratinella  and @mrs.bee   ano po yung mga sinalihan nyo?  nacurious lang 

1BRO po actually nagstart pa lang sya last Oct. 2012 and we didn't expect na mabilis ang pagdami ng members and natutuwa kami kasi may mga nasa province na rin na nagiinvite samin to present the business. Siguro iyon yung isa sa mga gusto ko sa business na to. Ang sarap ng feeling na yung group nagtutulungan to achieve your goals saka may mga taong kahit hindi kami personal na kilala ay nagtrust pa rin sila samin at sumama sa team namin.

[khayzee]

sis, ano po yung 1BRO?

[mrs.bee]

sis, ano po yung 1BRO?

PM na lang kita sis!

[polar_bear]

@polar_bear: ang tawag namin dyan is "KIDNAP. Marami ang naiinis sa ganyang klase na approach ng ibang nasa MLM. Kaya kami yung mga members namin kinakausap talaga namin na bawal ang ganun. Kasi if you are proud sa ginagawa mo bakit kelangan mong manloko ng tao just to present your business. Saka respect na rin sa mga nainvite at sa presentor. Kaya marami ang negative sa MLM dahil sa mga ganyang tao.

sis mrs.bee.. tama ka nakidnap nga kame.  I have nothing against MLM kasi I've been into MLM before (DXN, tupperware, avon, sophie and another one that I forgot the name).  So aware na ko sa mga mechanics and compensation scheme kahit paano.  Pero ngayon ko lang talaga naencounter yung KIDNAP na yan.  Never ko yan ginawa sa mga recruits ko dati.  Saka tama ka sa sinabi mo eh.. kung proud ka sa MLM mo, bakit kailangan mong manloko.  Lalo tuloy hinde sasali yung mga potential downlines mo.

[super bratinella]

Nagseminar din ako sa 1Bro pero parang ang hirap para sa akin mag cash out, hirap kasi talaga akong maconvince pag dating sa networking, hubby ko sobrang interested na sa 1Bro pero di pa rin ako nakapag in.

This week mag in ako sa isang networking di lang ako personally makakapunta kasi I am pregnant at sobrang dami ng tao dun lagi para magregister kaya makikisuyo lang ako for registration.

[mrs.bee]

Nagseminar din ako sa 1Bro pero parang ang hirap para sa akin mag cash out, hirap kasi talaga akong maconvince pag dating sa networking, hubby ko sobrang interested na sa 1Bro pero di pa rin ako nakapag in.

This week mag in ako sa isang networking di lang ako personally makakapunta kasi I am pregnant at sobrang dami ng tao dun lagi para magregister kaya makikisuyo lang ako for registration.

Lahat naman ng mlm talaga need magcash out. For me naman mababa lang cash out ng 1Bro compare sa iba na 7-8k. Pag ganun na hindi rin ako makapaglabas. Ang naisip ko kasi sa 4k na nilabas ko, is yung lifetime kong magagamit yung discounts and pati family ko kasama ko na rin sa discounts plus insured ako ng 100k. Not bad di ba?  Dapat talaga mapili tayo sa company and products, kung sa palagay natin na magbebenefit tayo dun tayo. Ang maganda dito sa MLM katulad sa mga members namin na hindi makapagpresent, tulungan na lang. Kami yung nagpepresent para sa kanila.  So teamwork talaga.

[super bratinella]

At long last, this is my first time joining in Networking, last March 1 ako nag in, nakapagregister na ako and all that, and it is true kahit wala pa akong ginagawa at recruit I am now earning 450p per day, every Tuesday ang payout and I am not sure if this week or next Tuesday ko makukuha earnings ko.

Bawi na ako sa cash out ko by Tuesday, mga ka-work they are interested to join na rin pero sabi ko wait until ma withdraw ko muna ang first cash out ko bago ko sila recruit kasi nakakahiya sa kanila if ever hindi magwork out sa kanila.

Thank you Lord at may source of income na ako kahit na Maternity Leave ako.

[FoxyPhoenix]

The reason why MLM members don't say that they're into networking business is because of the negative feedback most people have upon hearing it.

Behind those networking/MLM companies that screwed up big time, is a lot of MLM companies who have actually achieved record growth and have rewarded a lot of their loyal members. I'm into this business, and for as long as I'm with the right company and for as long as I have passion for it, I know I'm on the right track.

[stylishmomy]

I guess okay ang networking/mlm if you're part of the pioneer members and do your research before joining.

[jmeangeL]

At long last, this is my first time joining in Networking, last March 1 ako nag in, nakapagregister na ako and all that, and it is true kahit wala pa akong ginagawa at recruit I am now earning 450p per day, every Tuesday ang payout and I am not sure if this week or next Tuesday ko makukuha earnings ko.

Bawi na ako sa cash out ko by Tuesday, mga ka-work they are interested to join na rin pero sabi ko wait until ma withdraw ko muna ang first cash out ko bago ko sila recruit kasi nakakahiya sa kanila if ever hindi magwork out sa kanila.

Thank you Lord at may source of income na ako kahit na Maternity Leave ako.

^---ano to? walang ginagawa pero kumikita? meron bang ganun?

iyong 1BRO, antayin nyo lang after a year or two mag-sasara rin yan.  Load Central lang yan na nagpalit ng pangalan kasi na-saturate na nila ang market.  Magsasara tapos re-launch na iba naman ang name.  sumali na ako sa ganito before. walang nangyari.

mas ok pa rin ang mga DS company sa akin compared dito sa mga pure MLM

[super bratinella]

^Yes, sis wala pa akong ginagawa nag open lang ako ng 3heads accounts nag earn na ako atleast 450p per day and it is true kasi for release na ang earnings next tuesday. Monoline kasi ito sis, unlike any other networking na pairing so meaning lahat ng pumasok at nagregister automatic maging downline mo at may earnings ka sa kanila na 50p, parang ganun..

[jmeangeL]

^---anong name ng MLM, if you don't mind

[super bratinella]

PM ko na lang sis.

[conp_]

I was one of those people na super nega sa MLM. But now I found myself joining one. First, I believe in the product and I see myself as a consumer of the product. And because I'll be consuming the product, I decided na to become a dealer. I treat this as an investment -- money I can afford to lose.

Medyo na-o-off pa din ako madalas sa mga members na ginagawang motivation yung kotse at bahay sa mga invitees. For me kasi hindi lang naman yun ang nakakapag-define ng success mo as a network marketer eh. Oo, nabili mo yun mga yun kasi kumita ka. Pero I don't know. Iba pa din eh.

Kaya ako kapag nag-successful na 'ko dito, kapag may kinausap ako, siguro I'll be talking more about the product and how it helped others.

Hehe.

[mrs.bee]

^---ano to? walang ginagawa pero kumikita? meron bang ganun?

iyong 1BRO, antayin nyo lang after a year or two mag-sasara rin yan.  Load Central lang yan na nagpalit ng pangalan kasi na-saturate na nila ang market.  Magsasara tapos re-launch na iba naman ang name.  sumali na ako sa ganito before. walang nangyari.

mas ok pa rin ang mga DS company sa akin compared dito sa mga pure MLM

Hindi naman siguro. actually confident ako na kayang tumagal ng 1Bro. Maganda ang compensation plan and meron din naman kaming mga partners na ibang company para sa mga gift certificate na binibigay sa mga members. Siguro naman hindi sila makikipagpartner sa 1bro kung hindi sila confidents. Aside from that yung nagisip ng compensation plan sya rin yung nagpasikat sa dati naming sinalihang company which is hanggang ngayon naman buhay pa rin. Nagdecide lang kami umalis dun kasi marami ng changes na bigla na lang walang pasabi and nagbago na rin ang compensation plan nila.

[o5m_m5o]

Why 1-Sim-Load-All companies cannot work:

(Oh a lot of you probably heard of the lawsuits of one company before it changed it's name, and "management", although they're the same people)

1. For this to work, your transactions will have to go through 3 traffic-prone sets:
--> You text the command so it first has to pass through the network (sun/globe/smart)
--> Once received, your command has to be processed by their servers
--> Once parsed (processed), the command has to be relayed back to the appropriate network.

Note that loading direct will also be lagged.

Multiply that lag time by at least 3... and this is very conservative... because...

The servers are the main lagging step in this process.

Habang dumarami ang users, naooverload ang server nila. Hindi naman sila hibang na mag
-uupgrade ng server nila kasi yung kikitain nila hindi enough para magwarrant pa ng upgrade.

(Mag-isip ka nga, sentimo lang tubo nila sa load! Mahal magupgrade ng server, hindi naman million dollar companies mga yan)

Ang kita nila, dun sa mga nagpaparegister as members... kasi nagbebenta lang sila ng hangin.
(retailer for 299? Sus... libre lang gcash sa globe... in fact mura lang mga retailer sim, may kasama pang load!)

[o5m_m5o]

No work, then earn.

obvious pyramid po mga monoline.

Yung for release for releasing na yan, marami na akong nakausap, may mga nakakuha,
pero mas maraming tao yung mga hindi nakakuha.

Pay some, to make more people invest.

Ponzi scheme.

^Yes, sis wala pa akong ginagawa nag open lang ako ng 3heads accounts nag earn na ako atleast 450p per day and it is true kasi for release na ang earnings next tuesday. Monoline kasi ito sis, unlike any other networking na pairing so meaning lahat ng pumasok at nagregister automatic maging downline mo at may earnings ka sa kanila na 50p, parang ganun..