Maine Mendoza thread 2

[coffeemilk12]

^Sis, from an unbiased viewpoint may mali talaga sa ginawa ni Oreo. Dapat kasi hindi sya nagtweet ng ganun, insensitive kasi ang datingan. Huwag sana kalimutan ng mga kasamahan ni Maine na FANS (which is tayo) ang dahilan kung bakit sya nandyan. Movies, TV show/s, endorsements, mag covers et al - lahat yan nakuha ni Maine kasi katuwang nya ang SMU at ADN.

Ito namang ADN, sa sobrang pagkatigang eh kung ano-ano na ang iniisip at nagiging irritable na. Wala na sa huwisyo pero I can't blame the fans though, wala din kasi matinong ganap.

Mga sis, matanong ko lang, okay lang sa inyo na magteleserye ulit si Maine next year, kahit iyon na ang last nya? May nagchika kasi na insider na may connections sa GMA na may offer ang Kapuso Network na 2nd Aldub teleserye, pero pinag-iisipan pa.

Kung ako tatanungin, basta ba maganda ang materyal at mahusay ang director (e.g. Dom Zapata, Mark Reyes) payag ako. Disaster kasi ang DTBY kaya hopeful akes na makabawi sila the 2nd time around.

[i_miss_sleep]

^as a fan, syempre, gusto ko talaga siya umarte. Kase di ba gusto pa natin siyang maging matayog? Pero kung kulang siya sa workshop, mas mabuti talaga bago pa man maumpisahan eh mag-ensayo na siya. Sometimes din wala sa materyal eh. Ang materials nage-evolve yan eh. Meron kang basic story pero depende sa rating, minsan ine-extend, minsan tigok agad. Nasa acting yan. Tignan mo yung Ika-6 na utos, kahit nagiging pangit na istorya, extend pa rin ng extend dahil magaling dalhin ng mga artista and eksena.

Now as Maine, gusto ba niyang umarte? Gusto ba niyang mag-puyat? Gusto ba niyang masabak ulit sa scrutiny? pressure talaga sa kanya. Can she handle it?

Kaya siguro dapat sitcom na lang muna siya or guestings. Just to get used to how things work in showbiz.

[MisCalculus]

^ and ^^ ladies, about teleserye ok ako dyan. Exposure din yan and mahohone din yung acting skills nya. Basta tamang materials, at malaking PLUS yung may magaling na director to create good execution of scenes.

Kaso etong si Meng, natrauma ata sa dtby. Lols! Sa isang interview tinanong sya kung magteleserye pa daw ba sya, she sed Yes, after 15 years. mukang joke lang naman na may halong katotohanan.

Agree din ako sa inyo, a sitcom or a romcom will be fine para sa kanya. May nabasa nga ako bakit hindi i-remake yung Jack 'n Jill tapos sila ni Paolo ang gaganap for the iconic roles.

[coffeemilk12]

Kahit siguro Kathniel, JLC-Bea, or DongYan gumanap dun sa DTBY (with that kind of story and direction) hindi talaga magrarate yan ng husto. It was really crappy, mas maganda pa afternoon soaps ng GMA kaysa DTBY tbh.

Yung Ika-6 Na Utos naman, timeless ang appeal ng mga kabitan story at maganda din execution sa IANU kaya patok.

Anyways, may news na about the 2nd movie. Bago matapos ang Sept finalize na raw lahat, October siguro pre-production tapos workshops then bago matapos ang 2017 nakapagshooting na siguro sila. Thank you Lord!

[etxetera]

Just wondering if Tatay Dub, Nanay Dub, Ate Dub still has influence or at least controlling powers pa kay Meng. Power like pagsabihan kung tagilid/balibag na ang pananaw o pinaggagawa sa buhay. O bawal na sermonan at hanggang sila na lang tagasambot ng kakulangan even katamaran ng anak na kahit mga simpleng thank you gesture completely deadma na. Di naman kalabisan surprise na magpakita minsan minsan sa McDo like Alden sa Concha for fans. From Pampanga pa yung mga lola's na dun ang event ginawa ilan na lang ba buhay ng mga yun. Pero sabagay kelan ba nila ni Alden pinahalagahan ang ADN lalo senior fans nila since day one. Hanggang socmed lurking at team banana na lang daily buhay ng isang Maine Mendoza wala na. Wala sa bokabularyo ang pasalamat at gratitude bahala na parents at Catalan family. Di ba magtweet si Matti na in behalf of my Tita Ninang thank you po PMPC kasi di po siya talaga marunong mag thank you pasensiya na po. Pasensiya na rin po di na siya nagawa kahit anong online material na kahit ano nalunod na po siya ng katamaran. Nalimutan na ni tita artista pala siya na mahal ng milyon-milyong fans. Pasensiya na po.

[coffeemilk12]

^Ayan na naman tayo sa hindi nagpapasalamat sa fans, taken for granted na naman ang ADN.

While may hint of truth ang sinasabi mo, kailangan ba araw-araw at all the time magpasalamat? Ilang beses na nilang sinabi na thankful sila sa ADN. Umaattend nga ng mga fan events di ba? Ano pa ba gusto mong gawin nila etxetera? Specify your wish or your request para mabawasan ang inis at galit dyan sa puso mo.

Pasalamat nga tayo at accomodating sila sa requests ng fans. Nakakapunta pa nga sa bahay di ba? Nakakasama pang mag-dinner et al. Hindi ka makakarinig ng ganyan sa mga Kapamilya stars.
May "barrier" between fan and idol dun sa kabila. Sa Aldub at kay Maine lang nakakakita ng ganyan. Tapos biglang kuda na hindi pinapahalagahan.   

Nakakainis lang kasi yung ibang fanneys, kung umasta parang napaka-ingrato't ingrata ni Alden at Maine. Para bang wala ng nagawang tama ang dalawa. Puro puna, hanap ng mali, my goodness! Nakakaloka ka girl.

[twelvth_goddess]

I haven't posted here in a while, as well as with the other Aldub thread. TBH, naumay na ko sa kanila, especially kay Maine. BUT, nakakaloka isang commenter kay Maine. Can't the girl run her OWN life the way she pleases it? Ultimo Pag fangirl sa Coldplay kine-kealaman? No wonder naumay sya sa fans nya. For someone who's not used to the limelight, hinde nakakatulong ang dictatorship ng fans nya. Get a grip people. When you idolize and support someone, wag  nyo i-expect na may kapalit palage from them tapos maiimbyerna pag walang thank you or what not. Maybe instead na nakabantay kayo sa lahat ng ginagawa and hinde nya ginagawa, just live your own lives. Sorry not sorry, pero ka-OA-yan ang obsession. Lahat nalang issue. Lahat nalang kulang. If her introversion and 'lack of gratitude' stresses some fans out, by all means, bitawan nyo. Hinde yung kada galaw ng tao, may malalim kayong analysis and interpretation. Nakakaloka.

[twelvth_goddess]

Chaka sorry ah, 'katamaran' is a strong word. Wow. Do you know how hard it is for an introvert to exert effort in socializing? I'm a social introvert too and while I can be a star in my crowd and my type of audience, I need to disconnect and recharge after that. Kung idol nyo sya talaga, give her her personal space and time. Hinde sya nabubuhay to be at her fans' beck and call. Siguro instead na wala kayong ginawa kungdi mag-demand sa idol nyo, maybe just happy with what they can give. Remember, they can't give what they don't have. So wag kayong OA sa demands. Kahit sinong tao, mabu-burn out sa mga ganyang klaseng ugali.

[etxetera]

Demanding because believing she has the talent for the craft and what is lacking is passion. Masama bang maniwala na may ibubuga pa siya na maging mas mahusay at mabuting artista. Sometimes introverts needs to be pushed the hard way rather than being praised and puro papuri pampering left and right kaya lalong tatamarin at puro sakto lang. Yes its her life but ano ba pinasok niya di ba showbiz? Ano ba ang mundo ng showbiz at mechanics nito? Unless endorsement star na lang pala talaga at barangay forever? Sino ba in the first place ang excited na nangako na marami pang aabangan sa kanila simula pa lang ng taon? Sino ba nagsabi na baby pa ang tandem at di ready mapartner sa iba? Sino ba nagtaas ng level ng expectation kaya obviously may demand tapos walang nadeliver mabuburnout sa fans ? DTBY lang ang tanging output this year mediocre pa fro the tandem who promised many projects. Kung walang pinangako simulat simula di walang expectation at walang demand ng demanding OA fans na rooting to see more projects. Rather than taking the demands negatively and going so hard against the waves to castigate why not ride the wave unti unti kahit maliit na alon lang. Not every critic is a hater. Some critics loves you dearly just try to see the positivity in the negative punas. Lastly, its really not good for stars playing with fans feeling no wonder all kinds of fans can be found in Aldub's fandom.

[twelvth_goddess]

How do you know that this isn't exactly the pace that she wants and can manage for now? Passion is innate, it's not forced upon a person because of pressure. It's not surprising that fans clamor for more projects for her. That's typical. What's atypical is when the expectations begin to bleed over the star's personal choices including her hobbies, likes, dislikes, etc. If she doesn't want to tweet or to blog, why take it against her? If she likes to stay on her phone for long periods of time and not talk to anyone, does that make her lazy and unproductive? Hinde ba pwedeng pagod and gusto ng alone time? Even the people she hangs out with, meron pa nasabe na lage kaseng puro third sex ang barkada. So what? Anong connection? Kelangan ba mag rub elbows with the rich and famous kahit hinde nya feel? Eh hinde nya crowd eh. Sino ba ang deserving na ma-grant ng presence and friendship nya? This girl is not a typical celebrity chasing after fame and money.

And I totally get why she deactivated her twitter. Too much negativity. Sino ba gaganahan don? At the end of the day, she's the only one who can decide her own pace and what she wants to achieve in this business or whether she does want to even achieve anything else apart from her sudden popularity. We're all mere spectators. She deserves the respect of letting her decide what she wants to do with her life. Otherwise, ano na pinagiba nya sa ibang artista na nagpapa pressure sa demands ng fans and business then end up depressed because that's not what she wants and it's not who she is.

[etxetera]

Aura never lies. There are two types of people who could bring drastic change in one's life once pagpinapasok mo sa buhay - yung may dalang kataku-takot na SWERTE o may dalang puro MALAS to the point of stealing your real life core. Wiser to always choose and NURTURE the former na di lahat nabibiyayaan in this lifetime. In life, it ALWAYS pays to be in the company of GOOD people in the long run - it ALWAYS does.

She is one of the most loved celebrity in Philippine showbiz history. Nabuo ang Aldub because of 3 things: fun/gv + kilig + tadhana. Tadhana that candy pic only time can tell, kilig whether real or reel bec work requirement doesn't matter but most importantly and what holds everything is the fun/gv na kahit isang kalokohang tuldok o photobomb shot lang sapat ng hope and happiness sa maghapon to millions na sana di maiwala ng tuluyan maisara man ang telon ng ningning. Happiness and positivity in a negative world. Very few are blessed with contagious energy that either affect or infect people. She is blessed to be one.       

[MisCalculus]

How do you know that this isn't exactly the pace that she wants and can manage for now? Passion is innate, it's not forced upon a person because of pressure. It's not surprising that fans clamor for more projects for her. That's typical. What's atypical is when the expectations begin to bleed over the star's personal choices including her hobbies, likes, dislikes, etc. If she doesn't want to tweet or to blog, why take it against her? If she likes to stay on her phone for long periods of time and not talk to anyone, does that make her lazy and unproductive? Hinde ba pwedeng pagod and gusto ng alone time? Even the people she hangs out with, meron pa nasabe na lage kaseng puro third sex ang barkada. So what? Anong connection? Kelangan ba mag rub elbows with the rich and famous kahit hinde nya feel? Eh hinde nya crowd eh. Sino ba ang deserving na ma-grant ng presence and friendship nya? This girl is not a typical celebrity chasing after fame and money.

I couldn't agree more.  Everything that you have said pinusuan ko na. 100 likes agad

This particular fellow gtalker here and I have a history sa kabilang forum. Even here the comments were so painful and toxic to read so i just chose to ignore baka masabihan pa ko namemersonal. lols!

So anyway, yes, i agree. For the fans in general, the trick here is to remind ourselves that we are mere spectators. Never assume anything, never to invest too much.
You don't own your idols, so wag masyadong maging demanding.  Never Impose. kasi unang una, hindi ka naman nila kilala. You have to learn to separate reel from real. Otherwise, it will consume your whole being. If you can't take the heat, get out of the kitchen. Yun lang yun.

[twelvth_goddess]

Maine is still young. Let her discover who those people are. Let her make mistakes, get hurt, and learn in the process. Introverts don't take advice very well. As fans, you may want the very best for her and I'm sure you wouldn't want to see her get hurt. But hey, it's a fact of life. Nobody learns life lessons just by hearing them or reading about them. Experience will always be the best teacher. The established actors/actresses have been built and made strong by time and experiences. By rotten and good people around them. Let her go through it on her own when she allows it. Mejo babaan kase expectations sa kanya. Sabe nyo nga matigas ulo nya. That's a typical introvert for you. The more na i-push sya, the more na magde detach yan. As evident of what she's doing now. Chill. Relax. Have some tea. Watch her grow into herself.

Yon lang.

[coffeemilk12]

^I agree with you. Let Maine learn from her mistakes coz she's young and still starting out in the biz. Yung personal life nya, balato ko na iyon sa kanya.

Ang issue ko lang talaga sa kanya is she's too laidback. Wala masyadong ganap sa career nya kaya kung ano-anong hanash at issues ang ipinupukol sa kanya. Endorsement shoots doesn't consume too much time kasi.

As a fan, my wish for her is to be serious with her craft, kahit sa hosting man lang. Kahit sa movies na lang sya umarte.

Wala na kasi yung "fire" and passion na nakikita ko sa kanya compared nung nagsisimula pa lang sya.

[i_miss_sleep]

^I'm with you sis coffeemilk12. I guess I just had high hopes for this girl. She had so much potential but now showing lackluster. To me, she hasn't proven anything yet. What she has, her fans helped her achieved it, they made noise over her. Her management eased her way out of everything. She needs something to get going and it's not going to be money cause she already has it.

[etxetera]

Off topic : This is a Maine thread pero nalimutan ng mulat dito na di maka move on for the longest time na nanggagalaiti at atakihin na ata sa pagpipilit na gawing personalan dito All I know I'm not a MULAT and I will NEVER be one. I jumped off sa kuta sa kabilang forum bago nabuo at nagkahawaan ng tuluyan mga forumers duon. I even apologized to Ate Dub dahil nung time I recommended it pa naman saktong lumuwag mga turnilyo ng tao duon at biglang bashers na. Mulats who lambast Alden calling Alding, Uka, bakla, user, guy at ano-ano pa painting as if he is the worst man in the planet while claiming to be Maine defenders. Even pamilya ni Maine kulang na ang ipako din sa krus sa bashing lalo pag magiliw kay Alden o pahopia sa pananaw nila. Mulats na counterpart ng BN tards na both haters. Mulats na ang iba sa pagka-accommodating ng family ni maine pinatatapak sa kanila kahit sa socmed multiple accounts na tumitira kay Alden at ilang palit ng username kakatago just to bash. Ano latest maniac si Alden tagging atty na pumatol naman na isa ring famewhore. May mga Maine fans na gusto magbalik forum duon pero di na makabalik bakit daw naging kuta na so nasaan sila? Nasa twitter GC. If only one knows the growing opinions na puro sa mga GC na lang itinatago than ipost dahil ayaw mabash ng karamihan na naglielow ang sakit sa heart. Wala panama ang post ko at opinion. We have difference in opinion even if you push yours millions of times its yours and my opinion is my opinion. Natawa ako sa consume your whole being talaga lang teka eh sino ba ang anino na multiple accounts makabuntot wagas di naman ako ang artista si Maine. Lastly, kahit anong habol mo di ako aanib maging mulat sorry sis ikaw na lang at kayo kayo na lang kahit may bayad pa but thanks for the friendship before lalo na nung early days ng thread alin ba pinagtulungan/pinagpuyatan natin gawin 2 o 3. Those were the happy fun Maine Mendoza fan girling days sa Pex at wala ako magagawa if you think I am a basher at ikaw ay dakilang defender kaya kailangan mo ako sundan everywhere sa diyan ka masaya  

[etxetera]

Apologies for the off topic first and last patol ko lang sa sis mulat natin dito unless may iba pa palang mulat lol friendships created, friendships lost all because of Aldub at isang Maine Mendoza #WhattaRollercoasterRide   


Anyways agree with @i_miss_sleep definitely money will not be her driving force like 99% who is in showbiz but she needs something to get going and make the flame in her heart alive again. I hate the katamaran sa craft and lack of passion and I won?t take that opinion back for now. Basta ako di ako pasok sa fanney na magbibigti pag di nagkatuluyan at all along isang joke of no value lang candy pic na iyon ni tadhana pero ewan ko sa mga mulat/osf pag nagkatuluyan san pulutin lalo sagad hanggang bone marrow galit nila kay Alden, ADN at pamilya ng both.       

[Maple19]

Wag masyado magbabad kasi sa twitter at forums (if you feel na toxic na) para di masyado affected sa fandom at mga nangyayari kay Maine. Let her live her own life and have her own friends. Actually di ko gets ibang nasabi at mga ganap sa fandom kasi di nako nagfafollow sa twitter. Pero it seems hindi na good vibes and toxic na ang fandom para mismong si Maine na magquit.

Di man ako updated sa mga ganap sa career nila ni Alden via twitter, I think her management (APT) and GMA are mostly to blame - hindi marunong magstrategize, andun na kasi yung fame and support ng fans tapos di pa quality teleserye binigay. And walang followup na quality movie. Feeling ko since EB lang ang hinahain sa kanya sa ngayon, she's content and not demanding for more since she's still a newbie (baka masabihan pang primadonna). Napanuod ko sya kanina sa EB, and she looked happy and at ease with hosting. Hindi na pabebe.

[MisCalculus]

^ I agree sis Maple.
Kung hindi kaya ang mga ganap, better to step back and stop muna sa socmed (forums or twitter).

There's life outside this fangirling. Kung lahat na lang ng galaw ni Maine or kung sinuman na idol nila eh susundan, hihimayin at uusisain, ang toxic na nun.  Social media is toxic as it is, tapos may mga rants pa here and there, sobrang stressing and depressing basahin.

There are some bashers masquerading as fans or adn critics that when you read their posts, one can't help but ask kung san galing yung hate? Yung negativity? Who's sowing chaos and trouble sa socmed? Sino ang namemersonal ngayon? Who's making up stories? Sa mga sinasabi pa lang, you can sense them already. They are so easy to detect.

Sa tingin ko sila ang isa sa mga reasons that some artists like Maine or Liza S. chose to deactivate or detach themselves from socmed.

And for me, yes, they are best ignored. Not deserving to be given the time of day.

[twelvth_goddess]

There's life outside this fangirling. Kung lahat na lang ng galaw ni Maine or kung sinuman na idol nila eh susundan, hihimayin at uusisain, ang toxic na nun.  Social media is toxic as it is, tapos may mga rants pa here and there, sobrang stressing and depressing basahin.

So true lol

Repeat: There's life outside this fangirling.