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springblossom

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Re: President Digong Administration 2016-2022 Thread 3
« Reply #260 on: September 12, 2018, 02:43:50 pm »
min wage earner ka ba? kung hindi you're talking nonsense. nasa dubai ka pala eh you live here para piso din suweldo mo

this govt has too many incompetent sec. pero kinakampihan pa rin ni digong. tulad din ng past admin. ngayon pinapaaresto si sen.trillanes pang divert ng issue sa problema.

So ano ngayon kung nasa Dubai ako? I opted to work abroad 9 years ago because my peso salary in the Philippines was not enough. Instead na magreklamo dahil Mahal ang bigas, or maghirap, I decided to leave my family and work here. And FYI, I earn higher than the minimum wage when I was in the Philippines but because I wanted more for my family, I found ways to earn more. And I don't need to actually live there myself to know what our peso can do. Kaya nga ako nasa Dubai di ba?? And difference ko lang sa iba, pinili Kong hinde magtiis sa kahirapan dyan at tinitiis ko malayo sa pilipinas. Poverty is not an excuse to remain poor.

springblossom

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Re: President Digong Administration 2016-2022 Thread 3
« Reply #261 on: September 12, 2018, 02:58:09 pm »
Ngayon naghihikahos ang mga tao dahil sa inflation pero puro si trillanes ang iniisip.  Sinasabi niyang galit siya sa corrupt pero takot naman kay callida at go.. Mas magaling pang mag-noynoying  to kesa kay pnoy.

Wag na ring umasa sa mga dds na maintindihan ang tungkol sa inflation, they voted for duterte remember.

Feeling nyo naman kayo lang matatalino noh? Hahahaha

Sino ba report ng report about trillanes? Sino laging may press releases on him?You're actually right. Puro trillanes binabalita sa media and am also getting tired of it.

Anyways, ano ba normal inflation rate? I'm actually tired of explaining inflation and train law on people who are focused on hating this presidency. I can understand those who hate his mouth and jokes but seriously, lahat talaga ng ginawa nya ayaw nyo?? Hahahahah nakakatawa lang


Freedom of expression ends when he oversteps a line. You can say what you want about our religion 'coz it is your opinion but do you need to curse our God?

But ever since lots of people have been criticizing the Catholic Church. May iba nga dyan nakunan ng video nambabasag ng mga Santo. Nag beast mode ba mga katoliko at that time? Famous people mock God all the time thru their songs, films, books, nag beast mode ba tayo to defend Him?

It's his personal view that the god taught by some Catholic priests was stupid but the god he knows is not. Thats what he wanted to mean. As a Catholic, I'm not offended because like duterte, I know my God. And I'm actually happy that he made a hole on that can of worms kept by some abusive priests. Daming paring manyak or may mga anak tapos kinukuha sustento sa mga abuloy ng mga tao??? Tapos ang tagal na naghihirap ng pilipinas, lumaganap ang drugs, anong ginawa nila noon? I just hate the hypocrisy and self righteousness! Their abuses are what I found really offensive, not the opinion of someone who's not really an expert of theology or did not take the vows of poverty, chastity, and obedience to God's commandments.
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TomHansen

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Re: President Digong Administration 2016-2022 Thread 3
« Reply #262 on: September 12, 2018, 06:56:37 pm »
Feeling nyo naman kayo lang matatalino noh? Hahahaha

Sino ba report ng report about trillanes? Sino laging may press releases on him?You're actually right. Puro trillanes binabalita sa media and am also getting tired of it.

Anyways, ano ba normal inflation rate? I'm actually tired of explaining inflation and train law on people who are focused on hating this presidency. I can understand those who hate his mouth and jokes but seriously, lahat talaga ng ginawa nya ayaw nyo?? Hahahahah nakakatawa lang
Hindi naman kailangang maging matalino wag lang maging fanatic para di maging b+b+.

LOL siyempre irereport ng media kasi sino ba yung putak ng putak tungkol kay trillanes? Yung nagpatalk show pa kahapon para lang magrant tungkol kay trilliling? yung pinas na ang topic pero si trillanes pa rin ang tinitira? Sino ba yung nakafocus kay trillanes kesa sa mas importanteng problema ng bansa?

If you really believe that the only problem with duts is his mouth then...

argento

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Re: President Digong Administration 2016-2022 Thread 3
« Reply #263 on: September 13, 2018, 02:01:44 am »
lumaganap ang drugs, anong ginawa nila noon? I just hate the hypocrisy and self righteousness!

trabaho ba ng pari yan?
subukan kaya ni dut na icurse ang propeta ng mga muslim, try lang niya  ;D

 

schizo_me

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Re: President Digong Administration 2016-2022 Thread 3
« Reply #264 on: September 13, 2018, 09:04:20 am »
^ wala nga siyang say sa billion worth of shabu na pumapasok sa bansa.
yung latest nga di ba sabi niya speculations lang daw kahit na detect na ng aso ng PDEA :-\

hindi lang po drugs problema ng bansa natin

btw, 54 na pala ng peso against the dollar. weakest in 13 years
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ohcmon

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Re: President Digong Administration 2016-2022 Thread 3
« Reply #265 on: September 13, 2018, 10:23:15 am »
Lol pls lang let's not use the magtrabaho-kayo-mabuti-para-wag-niyo-maramdaman-ang-inflation card. This argument reeks of privilege. Middle-class nga ramdam na ramdam ang pagmahal nang bilihin, how much more the poor?

Tayo may option mamaluktot para pagkasyahin ang kumot. 'Yung iba sa mga kababayan natin walang kumot in the first place.

marge070407

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« Reply #266 on: September 13, 2018, 11:11:06 am »
I agree. Mahirap sabihin yan sa mga buong araw naghahanapbuhay tulad ng nagtitinda ng fishballs, magsasaka labandera, dun sa lola na gabi na nagtitinda ng yakult at sa iba.

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Re: President Digong Administration 2016-2022 Thread 3
« Reply #267 on: September 13, 2018, 11:29:29 am »
Lol pls lang let's not use the magtrabaho-kayo-mabuti-para-wag-niyo-maramdaman-ang-inflation card. This argument reeks of privilege. Middle-class nga ramdam na ramdam ang pagmahal nang bilihin, how much more the poor?


Agree ako dito! Sobra pati yung sinasabi nila na nakakabili ng bagong sapatos at make up pero nagrereklamo pag tumaas ang bigas? Tapos mag hanap daw ng sideline! Dyosko may sinabihan ko nga ako kasi grabe siya suwerte niya kung hindi pinoproblema pag taas ng bilihin baka nakikitira lang o walang binubuhay na pamilya tapos tinanong ko may stocks ka ba? Sabi niya wala. Kung may stocks ka maiintindihan ko pa puro ka buy ngayon sa trading pero kung wala kang investment tulad ng stocks and mutual fund lugi ka din tapos gumagastos ka pa everyday.

Hindi nakuha ang logic na tumaas bilihin pero ang suweldo steady lang.

springblossom

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Re: President Digong Administration 2016-2022 Thread 3
« Reply #268 on: September 13, 2018, 12:28:06 pm »
Sorry if i offend those people na naghihirap sa pilipinas or walang trabaho and im sounding like a privileged middle class. Because maybe, i am a privileged middle class. But pinagsikapan ko po ito, from grade school to college until now sa trabaho ko. I worked hard to keep my family out of poverty and im still working hard. Marami din akong binubuhay so in a way, mahirap pa din lol.

My point is, ayoko yung mentality na kasi mahirap ka, lalo kang maghihirap. Or kawawa ka naman kasi mahirap ka. I don?t tolerate excuses nor i receive pity. I guess it?s harsh for some but If there?s a will, there?s always a way.

We complain about inflation and taxes but we should also listen to the other side of the story. Wag puro mema.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-09-10/franklin-neuberger-bet-on-more-pain-for-sinking-philippine-peso

ohcmon

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Re: President Digong Administration 2016-2022 Thread 3
« Reply #269 on: September 13, 2018, 01:36:25 pm »
^ Nobody's questioning the source of your wealth naman, and please don't take this personally. If you have money, good for you. I'm happy for your success. But my point is that the inflation is beyond our control as working class citizens. Kahit anong kayod ang gawin ko, kahit magtrabaho ako 24 hrs a day, tataas pa rin ang presyo nang bilihin, and there's nothing I can do about that.

springblossom

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Re: President Digong Administration 2016-2022 Thread 3
« Reply #270 on: September 13, 2018, 03:56:34 pm »
^ok sis, noted. Dont worry i know myself and I don?t easily get affected by others? pov, especially when its about personal matters. We don?t really know each other here very well.

Yes, inflation is beyond our control. But mindlessly blaming it on our current government, like what some people are doing, is unfair. Ang tagal na naghihirap ng pilipinas, which is brought about by the many mistakes of our past, that we have not created any buffer for things like rising oil prices in the world market, or proper regulation of the prices of basic commodities. Then we have lots of catching up to do towards better infrastructures and better public facilities like free healthcare and education. Then magkapag reklamo yung iba, parang ngayon lang naghihirap at kasalanan na ni duterte. Baka kako may pagkukulang din tayo as a filipino. I just hope that those who ?hate? this presidency could also see the good things that are being done. Nakukulangan pa naman ako sa mga accomplishments ng administration ngayon kasi may mga drugs pa din, may mga corrupt pa din sa gobyerno, traffic pa din, but I appreciate their efforts at may mga resulta naman. Hinde pa nga lang 100% na resolve lahat ng issues.

I want to enumerate the good things this administration has done so far, but for sure, to those who dislike him, it will never be appreciated.
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ohcmon

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Re: President Digong Administration 2016-2022 Thread 3
« Reply #271 on: September 13, 2018, 05:30:32 pm »
Yes, inflation is beyond our control. But mindlessly blaming it on our current government, like what some people are doing, is unfair.

I can't speak for the others, but I personally blame this government for the current inflation trend. Bakit sobrang taas nang bilihin? Dahil sa TRAIN law. Lumaki nga ang take home pay, pero sobra naman ang itinaas nang fuel tax, sugar tax, etc, so sinong lugi? Taumbayan pa rin. Fuel ang isa sa mga determining factors ng presyo ng mga bilihin tapos tataasan nang tax? Kahit hindi economist, maiintindihan that that's a recipe for disaster.

Hindi ako dilawan, to get that out of the way. ;D I give credit when credit is due. Meron namang magagandang nagawa si Digong such as the free irrigation, nationwide smoking ban, P100M monthly assistance to the PGH, one-stop service for OFWs, extension ng validity ng passport and driver's license... But do these accomplishments mean that he should be given a free pass for the rising prices? No.

springblossom

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Re: President Digong Administration 2016-2022 Thread 3
« Reply #272 on: September 13, 2018, 08:06:58 pm »
It has been explained many times what is the impact of the train law on our inflation. Train law, as explained by DOF and other economic experts in the country contributed less than 1% on the inflation, at least in the past months. Thats what I could remember when i watched train law brief on ptv. And train law will cater better healthcare, free education, and other necessary public spending.

The weakening of our peso due to worldwide economic factors that are also beyond our governments control but still, the impact of this would be offsetted by the increased spending power of families relying on ofw remittances so this also contributed little to inflation. 

For me, one of the major contributor to our current high inflation is: rising of oil prices around the world and Philippines doesnt have its own domestic supply of oil. So just imagine, nag import tayo ng oil na matataas ang price while our peso value is weak in the world market. Pag na retail na sa pilipinas, ang mahal na talaga. In a way, tama ka to blame the govt kasi they should have found a solution to counter this but knowing how the Philippine economy is in the past years, kaya ba nila mag counter? Nahihirapan na nga sila mag subsidize sa presyo ng kuryente.

Another factor is, the project build build build of the government. Increased government spending on infrastructures would surely limit the spending of the government on other things. Para sa akin kasi, napaka ambitious ng mga projects ng gobyerno ngayon. Tapos nag taas pa ng mga sweldo ang nga sundalo at police. Yes, our economy is growing. Thanks to GMAs economic measures in the past. But in a growing economy, expected na ang inflation. When the economy grows, public spending also increases so indirectly, magkakaron ng inflation na dapat sana, ma-counter by increasing the basic salary. But our government as it is now, cannot afford to do both infrastructures and increase the salaries of all at kahit pilitin mo yung mga private companies, magtaas ng sweldo, hinde nila yan gagawin. Kelan ba nagpalugi sa gains nila yung mga business tycoons sa pilipinas? Unless we make some changes in our constitution or laws. . Our government  chose to do infrastructures muna. Kaya inflation lang meron tayo ngayon kasi walang taas sa basic wage. Syempre mahirap talaga pero to once again forego infrastructures is economic suicide. Imagine hanggang kelan kakayanin ng manila ang population congestion nya? Of course, opinion ko lang to. Im not an expert on economics hahaha. I just want to understand what our government is trying to do now. If only, our country has not been ruled by graft and corruption, we all know we would not be where we are now as a nation. But like everyone else, ayoko na iblame sina marcos, ramos, erap, aquinos, gma. I just want our country to move forward. Kung kelangan magtiis tiis ngayon para sa future, keri lang basta masiguro lang na panahon ng anak ko, maayos na kahit papano ang pilipinas. Anyways, expected daw na bababa ang inflation next year, as predicted by some economists. Pero mga negosyante din kasi sa pilipinas, kahit bumaba na ng presyo mga materials nila, hinde sila nagbababa ng sales price. Pag tumaas ang oil, aba ang bilis makaadjust, pero pag bumaba presyo ng oil, hinde naman sila nagbababa. I think isa din to na dapat ma regularize ng gobyerno eh. Ex. Around 2003, dollar was around 60 pesos so nagtaasan din lahat ng presyo pero nung naging 42 ang peso ulit, hinde naman nagbalik sa dati mga presyo. Yan ang di ko ma gets din.

TomHansen

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Re: President Digong Administration 2016-2022 Thread 3
« Reply #273 on: September 14, 2018, 12:19:35 am »
^ Yes less than 1% ang effect ng train sa inflation(sabi ng dof), BUT that is just the direct effect not the indirect effect na mas nararamdaman ng karamihan ng mga tao especially ngayon. Magtaas ka ng tax ng isang product hindi ibig sabihin isang product lang ang maapektuhan, gagapang yan sa iba pang costs to obtain/make that product. Even the hoarders dapat kasama yan sa negative effect ng train law pero i'm sure they conveniently removed them from the equation para nga naman bumango ang product(Train Law) ng admin..

Months before pa ipasa yung train law marami nang nagsasalita tungkol sa obvious negative effects nito sa economy lalo nung time na yun continous pa rin ang pagbaba ng peso at pagtaas ng presyo ng oil kaya hindi rin pwedeng sabihin na hindi binalaan ang admin..

I dont mind paying higher tax kung siguradong para sa improvement talaga ng bansa mapupunta pero hindi e ang daming corrupt sa govt, tapos walang ginagawa si duts sa alipores niya so you can't blame us if we criticize him - At isa rin siyang hindi mapagkakatiwalaan..

Sayang yung pinag-aralan namin if we just blindly follow and believe everything he says kahit sobrang layo sa actions niya..
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kvandenhaak

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Re: President Digong Administration 2016-2022 Thread 3
« Reply #274 on: September 14, 2018, 04:41:11 am »
Wala pa ring sumasagot sa tanong ko though. Sino ba ang gusto nyong pumalit kay Duterte? Hindi sya effective pero sino? Any suggestion?

TomHansen

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Re: President Digong Administration 2016-2022 Thread 3
« Reply #275 on: September 14, 2018, 09:05:27 am »
^ VP Leni

argento

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Re: President Digong Administration 2016-2022 Thread 3
« Reply #276 on: September 14, 2018, 11:03:12 am »
^ wala nga siyang say sa billion worth of shabu na pumapasok sa bansa.
yung latest nga di ba sabi niya speculations lang daw kahit na detect na ng aso ng PDEA :-\

sabi nga ni trillanes dapat bumubula na bibig niya sa galit pero tahimik lang  ;D. nakapagtataka. palibhasa sangkot dito ang davao group ng anak niya.

tama ang PDEA hindi puwede magkamali yung aso.

kvandenhaak

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Re: President Digong Administration 2016-2022 Thread 3
« Reply #277 on: September 14, 2018, 09:51:23 pm »
^^I guess it's kind of given pag nawala si Duterte, Leni will take over. Why her?

springblossom

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Re: President Digong Administration 2016-2022 Thread 3
« Reply #278 on: September 15, 2018, 11:14:02 am »
Well, whatever trillanes is saying, he has to prove it in court, including his amnesty. Wag syang feeling victim, nagtatago sa senado.  After all the peope he has maligned thru hearsays and baseless allwgations. But personally, maniniwala pa ba ako sa kanya? I guess, we all have to sort out within ourselves why we chose to believe or not to believe him, before engaging in more complex and thought provoking issues like inflation and Philippine economy.

kvandenhaak

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Re: President Digong Administration 2016-2022 Thread 3
« Reply #279 on: September 15, 2018, 11:44:51 am »
^May naniniwala pa ba kay Trillanes? LOL!

 

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