President Digong Administration 2016-2022 Thread 3

[TomHansen]

^ Oo naman, kay duterte nga na paulit ulit na nagsisinungaling at nagfflip flop marami ang naniniwalang kay trillanes pa kaya. LOL

^^I guess it's kind of given pag nawala si Duterte, Leni will take over. Why her?

yes yun lang naman dahil siya ang elected vp at wala namang masamang nagawa si leni bago siya naging vp.

[argento]

Lol pls lang let's not use the magtrabaho-kayo-mabuti-para-wag-niyo-maramdaman-ang-inflation card. This argument reeks of privilege. Middle-class nga ramdam na ramdam ang pagmahal nang bilihin, how much more the poor?

nakapag abroad lang ang iba eh akala mo kung sino na. 

[TomHansen]

^ its just sad na karamihan ng OFWs naging biktima ng propaganda ng admin dahil most of them babad sa social media kung saan kalat na kalat ang fake news na nilalabas nila mocha/sass/etc. They chose to believe bloggers than legitimate news outlet hehe. Karamihan din sa kanila di marunong magfact check dahil mga phones gamit mag-internet at mas matrabaho daw magtype lol or wala talaga silang idea hanggang ngayon na niloloko sila which is worse..

Nagtataka lang ako bakit ayaw pa nilang magsi-uwi ng pinas tutal change has come na at para maranasan rin nila yung "improvement" dito sa pinas..

[marge070407]

oo nga try nila umuwi tutal sabi nila sing safe naman daw ng singapore. hahaha

[springblossom]

Wow! Mas madami pa ding voters or supporters si duterte  sa pilipinas kaysa mga ofws sa wholewide world. OFWs were not the mere reason duterte won the election. Makapag generalize naman po kayo parang kayo lang nag isip. LOLOLOL. And if you think na offend kayo sa stand ko as an ofw, its not my issue. It?s yours.

Anyways, i dont engage in senseless arguments. Akala ko ba mga DDS ang fantards hahaha! Anyways, we?ll just believe what we want to believe. Time can only tell whether we made the right or wrong decisions.

As far as im concerned, i made the right decision in voting for duterte.

To avoid being off topic, its good to see that our government?s relief and rescue operations and calamity management have greatly improved.  Sana panghuli na si ompong. Kawawa na ang agri sector natin.

[TomHansen]

^karamihan po ng ofw's dahil fb at youtube ang source ng news nila na unfortunately controlled na ng mga bayarang call centers, tignan mo na lang mga comment sections at trending vids na pinaniniwalaan naman ng mga tang* lol. siyempre mas marami pinoy dito dahil pilipinas ito.

ngayon senseless argument na bigla dahil wala nang maisagot. yes dds lang ang fantards because were not, hindi naman kami sumasamba sa isang personality we're just asking for changes na ikabubuti ng nakararami hindi yung mga privileged lang. yung mga nabibiktimang inosente, mga mahihirap na mas nahihirapan. kami dito hindi kami ganun kaapektado ng inflation dahil kaya ng finances namin pero papaano yung mga mahihirap lalo na sa probinsya? yung mga magsasaka? problema sa dds puro sarili lang kasi iniisip LOL..

[Maia_Cache]

kaya maraming mahirap sa pinas kasi they embrace that kind of status, the truth is madami pa ngang privilege ang mahirap kesa sa middle class. kaya most of the time they embrace to be poor kasi ang daming libre at ang daming natatanggol na kesyo hindi nila fault na mahirap sila. All of us are given the same opportunity to improve our lives simula bata tayo as we mature all our actions and decisions controls our future. kaya nga karamihan ng mga middle class by retirement eh poor din ang hinanatnan kasi they most make wrong decision of handling their money. wala naman mahirap na nagsikap na hindi umunlad, ang natitirang mahirap lang eh yung walang ginawa kundi tumambay, magbisyo at umasa sa ibang tao.

[kvandenhaak]

^ its just sad na karamihan ng OFWs naging biktima ng propaganda ng admin dahil most of them babad sa social media kung saan kalat na kalat ang fake news na nilalabas nila mocha/sass/etc. They chose to believe bloggers than legitimate news outlet hehe. Karamihan din sa kanila di marunong magfact check dahil mga phones gamit mag-internet at mas matrabaho daw magtype lol or wala talaga silang idea hanggang ngayon na niloloko sila which is worse..

Nagtataka lang ako bakit ayaw pa nilang magsi-uwi ng pinas tutal change has come na at para maranasan rin nila yung "improvement" dito sa pinas..

My question is bakit ganon sila ka influential? Kung propaganda din lang, mas malaki ang scope ng Liberal Party and that is their expertise. And they have all the resources. So mas magaling ba sina Sass and Thinking Pinoy? Let's be honest here.

[TomHansen]

^ why? dahil even before the election the present admin already demonized the "mainstrean media" na kesyo kontrolado daw ng LP etc. Ito namang mga tamad mag-isip naniwala kaya kumagat sa "alternative" news kahit kasinungalingan at basura mga posts.. Samahan mo pa ng fake news websites at bot followers mas madali talaga silang makakauto. Effective sila dahil nasa fb sila at ang mga pinoy isa sa mga adik sa social media.

it doen't matter bakit ganon sila ka-influential at kung mas malaki scope ng liberal party, at hindi rin mahalaga kung mas magaling sila sass/tp sa kanila. What's important is they're spreading lies and propaganda for this admin that are affecting the perception of the people tungkol sa mga issues dito sa pinas...

[springblossom]

^karamihan po ng ofw's dahil fb at youtube ang source ng news nila na unfortunately controlled na ng mga bayarang call centers, tignan mo na lang mga comment sections at trending vids na pinaniniwalaan naman ng mga tang* lol. siyempre mas marami pinoy dito dahil pilipinas ito.

ngayon senseless argument na bigla dahil wala nang maisagot. yes dds lang ang fantards because were not, hindi naman kami sumasamba sa isang personality we're just asking for changes na ikabubuti ng nakararami hindi yung mga privileged lang. yung mga nabibiktimang inosente, mga mahihirap na mas nahihirapan. kami dito hindi kami ganun kaapektado ng inflation dahil kaya ng finances namin pero papaano yung mga mahihirap lalo na sa probinsya? yung mga magsasaka? problema sa dds puro sarili lang kasi iniisip LOL..

i just refuse to stoop to your level of argument, sis.

[springblossom]

My question is bakit ganon sila ka influential? Kung propaganda din lang, mas malaki ang scope ng Liberal Party and that is their expertise. And they have all the resources. So mas magaling ba sina Sass and Thinking Pinoy? Let's be honest here.

many people had called on duterte to run for president but he did not confirm right away because he did not have the machinery and the funds. i think that's the start of the rise of pro-duterte bloggers. and then individuals, ordinary filipinos based in the philippines and abroad had also come together to support his candidacy. the best platform was the social media. accessible sya and with no cost at all. naglabasan na yung mga duterte stories, mga ordinaryong tao nagpu post sa fb nila in support of duterte. i never believed those people were paid or whatever. alam naman natin kung sino talaga yung mga nagbabayad ng trolls. even before knowing sass, tp, krizette, mocha (in fact i did not know mocha well until she joined pcoo), lots of people had already set their votes on duterte. this is one thing that most die hard haters/bashers refused to accept. if some issues were presented to them in social media. they labeled it as fake news right away. sino ba nagset ng criteria on fake news? social media brings news, both fake and real and i always believe that we should trust each other's intelligence to make the right judgement on what to believe.

unfortunately for the liberal party, their propaganda style is not working anymore. people want real and sincere stories. hinde yung kunwari nagta traffic ka sa daan or nagsi-semento, when we all know its not really your job and you dont need to do that. or when you make suggestions how to manage calamities when we all know what happened when you were in charge. and people dont rely solely on tv networks now for information. madami na pwede makapag double check kung tama or mali yung mga balita.

i forgot to point out that these bloggers, because of their support for duterte, have enjoyed such large followers. personally and among my family and friends, we voted for duterte not because of what we saw in social media. most of us had experienced firsthand his leadership and knowing this, i wanted the same for the entire philippines. mga mid 2000 pa, pinag uusapan na namin na sana tumakbo si duterte as president. and people still chose him even when the propaganda against duterte was so strong few days before the election. may mga bata pang ginamit for that infomercial na ilang beses pinalabas sa abs cbn at kumalat din agad sa socmed.

[springblossom]

kaya maraming mahirap sa pinas kasi they embrace that kind of status, the truth is madami pa ngang privilege ang mahirap kesa sa middle class. kaya most of the time they embrace to be poor kasi ang daming libre at ang daming natatanggol na kesyo hindi nila fault na mahirap sila. All of us are given the same opportunity to improve our lives simula bata tayo as we mature all our actions and decisions controls our future. kaya nga karamihan ng mga middle class by retirement eh poor din ang hinanatnan kasi they most make wrong decision of handling their money. wala naman mahirap na nagsikap na hindi umunlad, ang natitirang mahirap lang eh yung walang ginawa kundi tumambay, magbisyo at umasa sa ibang tao.

true. sometimes naiisip ko kaya ayaw ng iba umasenso or maging masipag or educated mga pinoy, para mauto pa din nila during elections.

[kvandenhaak]

Di ko rin kilala si Mocha Uson until naging Presidente si Duterte. Pero sa international media ang balita, her influence helped Duterte to win the election because as a sex blogger she as millions of followers. I saw that in the news sa Global National here. Do I still need to fact check that nobody really knew her until the time she was campaigning for the President? I don't think so. The Liberal party is connected with Loida Lewis who is connected with George Soros. They have waaaay more resources to spread propaganda. So, si Sass at Thinking Pinoy (and Mocha) lang ang katapat nila? Let's not kid ourselves here. The math doesn't add up. There's a reason why people believe in Duterte. Maybe we're just in denial.

[schizo_me]

^ Cambridge Analytica   

https://www.scmp.com/news/asia/southeast-asia/article/2140303/how-cambridge-analyticas-parent-company-helped-man-action

[kvandenhaak]

^Which made me think why Liberal party underestimated the potential of social media as a tool in spreading propaganda? And in this case, they should just fire Martin Andanar and company because they are incompetent. Social media lang naman ang katapat eh. Why waste tax payers money? And the Liberal Party should pay somebody na medyo smart naman at di katulad nina Pinoy Ako Blog. Fact is, no matter how much they try to make Leni as the Virgin of Naga, something is wrong with their propaganda machine. I am not the brightest bulb of them all and even I know there's something wrong. Sayang ang pondo from George Soros ha? And something doesn't add up.

I think the reason is that majority of the population think that nobody in the Liberal party is capable of leading the country. Fine, wala namang masamang nagawa si Leni. Pero ang tanong meron ba syang nagawa? Parang busy lang sya to destabilize the people in power. Sure, di naman dapat maging blind follower of whoever but he is the President and voted democratically by the majority. His approval rate is still high. Hintay na lang ng next election.

[TomHansen]

i just refuse to stoop to your level of argument, sis.

ako na nga bumaba sa level niyo baka at least makaintindi kayo lol.. dont worry bro as long as di ka apektado no?

[springblossom]

^^oo nga sis. Mas malaki funds nila kaya even until, andami nila paandar. Sila kaya mahilig sa propaganda. Good thing, there are individual bloggers who are just ordinary filipinos but take time to inform the public. I tried checking PAB page but its all memes there.

And these bloggers who support duterte, may mga issues din sila sa isat isa kaya masasabi ko hinde talaga sila bayaran. Minsan iba yung views ko sa kanila or minsan sa sobrang details na sinasabi nila, lalo nato si sass, hinde ko na din sya ma gets.

[kvandenhaak]

^Fact is hindi rin naman lahat ng Duterte are on the same boat sa lahat ng issues. And I guess that's the beauty of it. Pare-pareho man silang pro-Duterte, it doesn't mean they have to kiss each other's @$$es.

Tinitingnan ko din minsan yung kay PAB and that is one of their main problem. Sana kumuha sila ng medyo may utak at yung true blooded yellow para galing sa puso magsulat. Even my 14-year old son can create memes. PAB vs. Thinking Pinoy? We know kung sino ang kumakain ng alikabok. Let's face it, well researched mga articles ni bakla. The difference is galing sa buto sya magsulat.  Eh sino lang ba naman yang si TP di ba? He is just a nobody before his name was connected to Duterte. It's a fact, social media is a very influential these days. Kahit mga political parties like Canada, they are relying less on traditional media to reach wider audience. They find it more effective! So dapat Liberal Party better get in the train.

[sophiasoon]

Wow! Mas madami pa ding voters or supporters si duterte  sa pilipinas kaysa mga ofws sa wholewide world. OFWs were not the mere reason duterte won the election. Makapag generalize naman po kayo parang kayo lang nag isip. LOLOLOL. And if you think na offend kayo sa stand ko as an ofw, its not my issue. It?s yours.

Anyways, i dont engage in senseless arguments. Akala ko ba mga DDS ang fantards hahaha! Anyways, we?ll just believe what we want to believe. Time can only tell whether we made the right or wrong decisions.

As far as im concerned, i made the right decision in voting for duterte.

To avoid being off topic, its good to see that our government?s relief and rescue operations and calamity management have greatly improved.  Sana panghuli na si ompong. Kawawa na ang agri sector natin.

I agree

Nag step up ang mga mayors sa pag papa ganda ng mga evacuations centers, ang ayos nga distribution ng food. Whether you think it's about PRRD or not, he's a big factor.

Same lang naman ang budget ng city mayors before at ngayon pero, now na manage ng maayos.

Hindi ren naha-highlight ang mga magagndang results ng travel ni PRRD, ang pag welcome ng different state leaders pag dumadalaw sya, iba. Unlike dati. Parang wala na tayong dating sa ibang bansa.

[dismembered]

ako na nga bumaba sa level niyo baka at least makaintindi kayo lol.. dont worry bro as long as di ka apektado no?

Feeling above intelligence ka pa rin ba?  Kung si VP leni lang ang gusto mo ipalit na presidente, eh, you lose credibility na.  hahaha. Dami mong sinasabi eh yung walang alam at kakayahan din ipapalit mo. Agree sana ako kung may isa suggest kang mag mabuti, kaso wala eh. So tiis ka pa. For now he is the best na mapagtyatyagaan ng Pinas.