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springblossom

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Re: President Digong Administration 2016-2022
« Reply #100 on: June 04, 2016, 11:09:23 pm »
^ mabuti naman pala kung ganon, if gawin niya ang trabaho niya ng maayos then good kami pang tumutuligsa sa kanya unang matutuwa..

Ang amin lang is once na may kalokohan siyang gawin hindi masamang i-point yun sa kanya at sana lang wag siyang ipagtanggol ng fanatics niya - kaya rin naman humahaba is because his fanatics keep on defending him by giving wrong excuses(bisaya humor, out of context, misinterpreted, ginagalit lang ang media etc) imbes na tanggapin na nagkamali si president.

dapat kasi wag na rin nating patulan defenses ng mga fanatics. madami talagang fanatics si duterte. promise. nagkalat sila sa social media. parang mga kathniel fanatics or aldub or jadine lang yan. hahahaba talaga pag papatulan nyo yung mga arguments ng mga ganyang tao.

kung anong side ka man, either suportado mo sya or taga tuligsa ka nya, be the higher person and choose your battles. nakakapagod basahin yung mga fanatics nya na sinasagot naman ng mga bashers na ever since ayaw din naman sa kanya. parehong fanatics lang di ba?

TomHansen

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Re: President Digong Administration 2016-2022
« Reply #101 on: June 04, 2016, 11:11:29 pm »
^ gusto ko rin yang oplan rody, imagine meron pala talagang ganyan hindi lang pinapatupad. Dapat talaga mawala sa kalsada yung mga nakahubad na lalaki at nag-iinuman, yung videoke naman sana masampolan yung mga kapitbahay namin hahaha.

Gusto ko yung paghuli sa mga magulang ng mga bata kasi yung ibang magulang talaga pabaya e.

FOURever

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« Reply #102 on: June 05, 2016, 06:22:52 am »
Agree ako dyan sis springblossom. Magkakaiba talaga tayo, at tama marami naman talagang defensive mode ngayon. Kaya kahit anong paliwanagan natin, on different page pa rin. At dun nagsisimula yung hindi magandang argumento.


Grabe yung batang pinsan ko, gala yun eh lalo at bakasyon. Ngayon takot na. Haha! Sana lang talaga hindi lang ito sa simula lang, no? Yun ang kinatatakot ko. Baka in the end, magaling lang pala tayo sa simula.

mei-mei

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« Reply #103 on: June 05, 2016, 07:02:17 am »
dapat kasi wag na rin nating patulan defenses ng mga fanatics. madami talagang fanatics si duterte. promise. nagkalat sila sa social media. parang mga kathniel fanatics or aldub or jadine lang yan. hahahaba talaga pag papatulan nyo yung mga arguments ng mga ganyang tao.

Tawang-tawa ako dito. Hahaha! Sabi nga ng friends ko, etong political fanatics, ang intensity nila combined ng Aldub, Kathniel at Jadine fanatics.  ;D

On other things…

Media - Sana din we don’t believe conspiracy theories or false labelling.  The media is not anti-Duterte. They’re not doing anything now to him that is any different from how they also treated Noynoy.  Like yang si Ellen Tordesillas, ang lakas nya din tirahin si Noynoy. Madami lang kasi galit kay Noynoy kaya hindi nyo sinasabi na biased sila kasi you agree with what they wrote. Sabi nga ni Noynoy sa CNN interview nya last month, looking back, if there’s one thing he could change in his administration, he would have gone more head to head with the local media nasi sinira daw talaga sya. This is why you would read much nicer things about him in the foreign press.

I know for a fact na halos lahat ng ABS reporters are pro-Duterte and anti-PNoy. Kahit sa TV Patrol, kitang kita mo naman. The head of Duterte’s PR team is a former ABS big boss who remains in good terms with ABS. Kaya I find my head shaking every time I see in social media sabihin na biased ang ABS against Duterte and yellow cult. Sa GMA din, majority there are also pro-Duterte. These I know for a fact.

Are there corrupt journalists? Yes, there are some. Are they biased against Duterte? NO. Are they using sensational reporting? Yes, I have to agree. Kaya ganun mga headlines nila and it’s not because they’re out to destroy him. Like how they have been the past decades, they cut speeches and choose headlines based on what will draw more people to read or listen to their news. It’s what needs to be changed.


Duterte’s Speech - I agree with the “no presscon for now” decision. I listened to his Thanksgiving Party speech last night because I understand Bisaya. Naisip ko, he talks really with love and concern when he talks to his Dabawenyos and Mindanaoans. It’s something you can hear behind his tone. It’s very different to how he talks when he’s in a presscon. Siguro, that’s where he needs to improve — to stop being clannish/regionalistic. It’s very divisive. :-\

When he said: “yang mga tiga-Manila, sinira nila ang Mindanao!” (talking about mining companies), it causes further division eh. He could have said “yang mining companies na yan…” and not generalize all from Manila. A LOT from Manila are against the further destruction of our environment, too!

You can feel the concern in his speeches to Mindanaoans because the love is there. I hope he also loves now all the other regions because he’s now the president of the whole country. Then, he doesn’t have to worry about his future presscons. ;)

I’m looking forward to the resignation of the 3 generals in Camp Crame!!! In his speech, Duterte told them to resign ahead before he names them and humiliates them. With his tough persona, yan ang nile-look forward ko talaga. Ang madaming corrupt sa military. Hindi naman napalitan karamihan dyan na since Marcos’ time pa. Noynoy has a fear of the military kaya he never went against them. I had been hoping to have a leader na finally magpapatalsik sa mga corrupt military men na yan.
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yelle

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Re: President Digong Administration 2016-2022
« Reply #104 on: June 05, 2016, 09:01:32 am »
I've been following PTV4's fb page ang refreshing yung mga binabalita. Unlike other msm na naka focus sa maliliit na bagay.

Ang problema lang kasi sa ibang media ang galing din mag twist ng statements katulad nung sinabi nila na si Pres. Rody endorses media killings eh hindi naman talaga ganun yung ibig nyang sabihin, tapos ipipick up ng international media. Sana maging responsable din sana sila sa pagbabalita.

mei-mei

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« Reply #105 on: June 05, 2016, 09:49:43 am »
^ International press do their own research. They do not merely quote other reporter's article and use it as their news.

I chanced upon Ed Lingao's post where he admitted na kinalaban nila ang LAHAT ng presidents.

"Journalists are supposed to be critical but fair, because this is how anomalies are laid bare and lies are exposed. Especially lies that are so well packaged that people swallow them without question. Otherwise, go read propaganda. All administrations, I repeat, ALL ADMINISTRATIONS, have used that catch-all phrase "biased media" to belittle efforts to ferret out the truth. In the last quarter century, Erap used it while we were looking into his mansions and mistresses, GMA used it while we dug up, well, too many issues to count, and PNoy's camp also used it when we asked about pork barrel, campaign donations, questionable alliances, his failure to stop media killings, and his failure with FOI.
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Journalists are not objective. What they need to be is fair and accurate."


Full transcript: https://www.facebook.com/edlingao/posts/10154416546274672


dismembered

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Re: President Digong Administration 2016-2022
« Reply #106 on: June 05, 2016, 11:09:51 am »

yelle

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Re: President Digong Administration 2016-2022
« Reply #107 on: June 05, 2016, 11:43:13 am »
^ yan tama, dapat ganito "Journalists are not objective. What they need to be is fair and accurate."

springblossom

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« Reply #108 on: June 05, 2016, 12:09:54 pm »
^but the headline, "duterte endorses media killing"? was that fair and accurate? I know there could be honest to goodness journalists out there but they are also working for profit oriented companies, which dont care much about fairness and accuracy. for me, better to control the media. just like what is happening here in uae. I realized it's ok if i don't know everything what my government is doing as long as nakikita at nararamdaman ko ang safety and comfort ng pagiging pinoy. kasi dyan mo malalaman kung nagtatrabaho talaga sila, hinde sa kung anong sinasabi lang nilang ginagawa nila.

sana nga tuloy na tuloy na yang curfew implementation. marami tayong rules in place wala lang implementation.

FOURever

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Re: President Digong Administration 2016-2022
« Reply #109 on: June 05, 2016, 12:12:14 pm »
^tama sis. :) napapangiti na lang ako :)

springblossom

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« Reply #110 on: June 05, 2016, 01:08:22 pm »
@mei-mei naku sis i have relatives in camp crame at parang madami ding corrupt officials dyan. unfortunately, pati din yata sila but they're retired now.

meron din akong friend who used to work in dpwh. grabe daw talaga yung bigayan sa loob ng mga contractors. sabi nya kung hinde naman sya tatanggap, pag iinitan sya ng mga contractors at ng mga kasama nya. hinde nya kinaya kaya nagresign sya after a few years.

and really, the entire time i was working for an accounting firm, wala akong good and honest encounters with bir lol. so sana this time, our government offices should strive to give world class service.

I also dont agree with duterte's words that seemed to blame the entire manila or luzon. but as a mindanaoan, what he said was true. talaga namang napapabayaan kami kaya nga gusto ng mga muslims mahiwalay ang mindanao sa pilipinas. example lang pag elections, mas bongga ang dayaan dito but instead na icorrect ng gobyerno, iniexploit pa nila. dito tinatago ng ibang criminals mga kalokohan nila kasi mas madaling nakakalusot. there was really a never serious intention of keeping peace in mindanao. lahat ng peace talks, may ulterior motives both parties and most of it was to protect their personal and political power. kaya talaga hinde naaayos ang conflict. and this is one of the bigger reasons i voted for duterte. he's the only one who truly understands the heart of the minorities here (and si gordon din pala) and the one and only one who truly cares for the country, including mindanao.

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yelle

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Re: President Digong Administration 2016-2022
« Reply #111 on: June 05, 2016, 01:34:01 pm »
^but the headline, "duterte endorses media killing"? was that fair and accurate? I know there could be honest to goodness journalists out there but they are also working for profit oriented companies, which dont care much about fairness and accuracy. for me, better to control the media. just like what is happening here in uae. I realized it's ok if i don't know everything what my government is doing as long as nakikita at nararamdaman ko ang safety and comfort ng pagiging pinoy. kasi dyan mo malalaman kung nagtatrabaho talaga sila, hinde sa kung anong sinasabi lang nilang ginagawa nila.

Yes, I agree it was not fair and accurate regarding the media killing headline that's why I emphasized the "fair and accurate" because that's how the journalists are supposed to be, critical but fair. Pero pinapractice kaya nila? That's the question. May iilan pa din naman siguro na tapat sa trabaho nila pero meron din mga bayaran.

mei-mei

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« Reply #112 on: June 05, 2016, 02:10:48 pm »
@springblossom:
Yun nga sinabi ko na what needs to be changed is sensational reporting. Kasi since before pa naman talaga, ganun na sila because it generates more reads. It's accurate in the sense na wala naman silang dinagdag or inimbento, but, they may present it in a more shocking or negative manner. Kahit last administration lang, sabi nga ni PNoy, pinaka-nega sa kanya media.

Hindi naman ganun kakaunti ang reporters na honest pa rin. Karamihan ng mga bata ngayon, lalo na yun mga very righteous na may mga pinaglalaban na principles, hindi sila nabibili. Mga kilala ko na corrupt normally mga veterans na. Umiinit lang ulo ko makita sila sa TV because I've heard of some of the dealings they've made. That's why I've stopped watching those nightly news and prefer to read from the newspapers na lang. At least sa newspaper, madali to skip those you don't like to read, and yang mga corrupt nasa Opinion columns lang karamihan. :D


yelle

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« Reply #113 on: June 05, 2016, 03:01:06 pm »
^good to know at marami pa din pala mga honest reporters. And speaking of veteran reporters na corrupt hindi pa ba sapat yung sahod nila at magreresort sila sa ganun.. I wonder kung magkano sweldo ng mga yan.

springblossom

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« Reply #114 on: June 05, 2016, 03:05:40 pm »
siguro it's time na din for us to boycott these media outlets. misinformation is a major reason why people keep voting the same trapos all over again. they're also the major manipulator of people's minds kaya andaming gusto malagay sa good side ng media eh. swerte lang nung may mga kaalyado na sa loob. personally kasi, hinde ako naniniwala sa objective journalism ng mga major media outlets sa atin. matagal ng na break yung trust ko sa kanila. at tsaka working overseas really changed my perspective.

one thing i want duterte to do is to gain government control over major utilities in our country like water and electricity. these should not be controlled by profit oriented companies and should be subsidized by the government.

springblossom

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« Reply #115 on: June 05, 2016, 03:13:45 pm »
^good to know at marami pa din pala mga honest reporters. And speaking of veteran reporters na corrupt hindi pa ba sapat yung sahod nila at magreresort sila sa ganun.. I wonder kung magkano sweldo ng mga yan.

matataas na siguro sahod nila sis but no amount is enough for this kind of people. im sure when they were young and idealistic, they never expected to become what they are now. but minsan, yung boss mo always has the last word.

i read or watch, not sure anymore, that the police now are more inspired to do their job well because they feel that duterte has their backs. minsan yan lang talaga ang kulang eh. hinde kasi napapangalagaan yung safety and welfare ng mga police sa atin. kung may nahuhuli silang malaking kriminal, mapapakawalan lang dahil may backer na general, mayor, or congressman. tapos buhay pa nila magiging delikado. naiinis ako sa kanila but in a way, naaawa din. yung mga dishonest media, police, etc. minsan biktima lang din talaga mg bulok na sistema ng pilipinas.

yelle

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« Reply #116 on: June 05, 2016, 04:04:13 pm »
^true. Gustuhin man nilang maging tapat sa trabaho nila pero yung nasa itaas o mismong sistema hindi naaayon sayo it's either suck it up or you loose/leave your job.

I learned may bayad pala ang 911 ng US and Canada while Davao's completly free.
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letters_to_cleo

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« Reply #117 on: June 05, 2016, 04:23:26 pm »
Duterte, in his speech sa Victory Party yesterday, said that on a scale of 1-10 about getting it right as a city/governance sa city, Davao  is nasa 7.  Which is good, alam nya na may pwede pa talagang magawa. Hindi delusional si Digong sa status ng Davao. Kaso ang rest daw ng Pinas, like Manila, nasa 4.  Para sa akin, at I suppose, most of us na kaya namang mabuhay ng walang tulong sa goyberno, ang kelangan lang naman ng Pinas, mafeel na protektado ng gobyerno ang mamayan: mapagkakatiwalaang pulis, maayos na public service (health centers, hospitals), madaling transactions with government officials, at maayos na public infras.  Yung pagtulong sa mahirap, sa akin, it will be carried over basta magampanan ng gobyerno ang mga basic responsibilities nila.  Hindi mauubos ang mahirap sa Pinas. Kahit saang bansa may mahirap.  Pero ang poverty too is relative. Ang mahirap sa Pinas, sobrang dirt poor na mahirap na kelangan magresort sa pagpag para kumain.  Ang mahirap sa ibang bansa, kagaya ng NL, ay yung mga kelangang supportahan ng gobyerno through subsidized housing at pagbibigay ng groceries kada buwan.  Kung mai-angat lang natin ang level ng "mahihirap" by additional programs to help them get on their feet, then I would say, ito na ang tamang governance na hinihintay natin.  Sa Davao, kahit may mahihirap, maraming mga programs para tulungan sila NA NAIPAPATUPAD NG TAMA.  Marami nang ipinanukala at naaprubahan na mga batas at panukalang tutulong sa mga mamamayan at sa mga naghihirap sa buhay, sana lang maipatupad ng tama.  Kung magawa lang ni Digong yan, okay na, kahit magmura ng magmura, wala akong paki, ang importante na-aksyunan nya ng tama ang mga kailangan ng bansa.
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mei-mei

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« Reply #118 on: June 05, 2016, 05:18:07 pm »
^good to know at marami pa din pala mga honest reporters. And speaking of veteran reporters na corrupt hindi pa ba sapat yung sahod nila at magreresort sila sa ganun.. I wonder kung magkano sweldo ng mga yan.

Actually, they started young. Iba na din kasi background ng mga journalists ngayon and noon. Marami dati na mahirap or kulang sa pera, and hindi rin malaki ang sweldo dati ng mga journalists and newscasters. Sobrang hindi. They expected people siguro to do it out of passion? Well, pag mahirap ka, kahit passion mo, kakailanganin mo pera so pag may nag initiate na mag-bribe, they give in sooner or later. Tapos, once you give in, yun na, masanay ka na tumanggap.

Ngayon naman, aside sa malaki na ang sweldo ng mga working on-cam, madami na din sa reporters na galing sa may-kaya na families so hindi na issue ang pera sa kanila, unless na lang talaga may mali talaga sa character nila.

FOURever

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« Reply #119 on: June 05, 2016, 05:42:34 pm »
Nanonood ako ng heneral luna. Naaalala ko si digong. Syempre may parts na exaggerated dito, pero sana hindi maulit muli. :)

 

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