Ugaling Pinoy na di mo gusto.

[three8one]

^ tama ka brad.. madaming madmaing mali sa kultura natin. kung bakit ba naman kasi madaming magagandang kultura yung mga ibang lahing nanakop sa bansa natin nuon yun pa ang isinantabi natin at yung mga pangit at mali pa ang inakap at ipinagpatuloy...


On Topic,

mahilig mangutang may maipag mayabang lang...

 

[lovemeagain30]

Ang ayaw ko sa ugaling Pinoy? Kapag ang parents ng pinoy hindi tinuturuan mag Tagalog ang mga anak! Lalo na kung nakatira sa Pinas ang pamilya tapos yung mga anak hindi maayos magsalita ng direchong Tagalog tapos ang alam lang DAW ay straight English, c'mon! hindi ako bumibilib sakanila kapag ganun. Para sakin dapat marunong ang anak natin ng sarili nating wika lalo na kung diyan ka sa Pinas nakatira, halerrr! Andito kami sa ibang bansa ngayon pero tinuturuan ko mga anak ko magsalita ng Tagalog (pati narin waray at bisaya). hindi lahat English kasi pinoy tayo eh kilala tayong multilingual at may advantage tayo sa ganyang aspect. kaya kapag may nakikita akong mga pinoy na bata hindi tinuruan mag Tagalog ng magulang, sorry ah pero tumataas talaga ang kilay ko! 

Feeling ko kasi responsabilidad ng magulang yan to educate and introduce our culture no matter how young they are. Especially if both couples are Filipinos. Tapos pasasalihin mo anak mo sa American Idol or pakakantahin sa youtube balang araw para maging sikat. Proud pinoy pero "kumusta?" at "mahal ko kayo" ang alam lang na Tagalog. Duh??

[pandalicious]

^same here sis, yan din ang ayaw kong ugali ng maraming pilipino, relatives ko pa. Proud na proud pang english lang ang salita ng anak nila, tapos ngayon ayun nagtu-tutor sa filipino subject eto naman eh sa akin lang, kung hindi ka pa nakakalabas man lang ng pilipinas aba eh dapat marunong kang magsalita ng tagalog/whatever dialect sa lugar niyo. Parang ewan lang kasi di ba, nasa pilipinas ka tapos hindi ka marunong ng salita sa bansa mo.

[three8one]

^^
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@ lovemeagain30 & pandalicious

oo, nga naman.. totally agree sa inyong dalawa. super like.. (thumbsup)

natawa lang ako dun sa sabi ni sis lovemeagain30 na, yung ibang pinoy, kiniclaim nila na proud to be pinoy pero kamusta at mahal ko kayo lang ang alam... hehe! walang pinag iba sa mga maraming ibang lahi na gustong matuto ng salitang Filipino, yun yung basic na natutunan nila...

 

[sarsingkit]

^agree to the language. Marami kasing Filipino parents, they dismiss Filipino language na kasi gusto nila English ang salita ng bata na akala mo naman eh puro English speaking people lang ang kasama forever. I know English is spoken worldwide pero konti lang kasi nakakarealize that it is not about being fluent in English but the ability to communicate in 2 languages. Ang bilis kaya ng adaptability to the succeeding languages kapag ang bata raised being a bilingual. I know a few Filipinos born here in Canada, mostly may kasama kasing lola sa bahay kaya marunong magtagalog. One friend, even knows kapampangan and one knows Ilokano. May twang lang pero fluent. Galing nga eh.
 

[akthung]

Although i can see the fair points of the previous members, i would have to disagree to an extent when it comes to languages.

I think in these modern times pinoys should be good in english because many of us end up leaving the country anyway...

And many of our kababayans are so "barok" in english that we are easily beaten by our fellow asians. (ie many of them do not need to take toefl and their mastery of english, despite their heavy accent, do not get questioned [ie university or real jobs]). 

English will help Pinoys get better opportunities. Id rather have the Filipino language take a side step. (We're not like France or Japan anyway)

Sometimes in other countries they ask on certain forms if you speak primarily english at home...it makes a difference! Imho

[desdhes]

chismosa! hehe

[Purple_Power]

Kalat dito kalat doon tapos kapag binaha sisihin ang gobyerno samantalang tayo naman talaga ang primarily reason kung bakit bumabaha sa Manila

Mag aanak ng katutak tapos kapag nahirapan gobyerno pa rin ang sisisihin

Masyadong big deal ang religion tapos ito ang nagmamanipula sa mga decision na minsan hindi na practical. Masaklap mga taong myembro ng simbahan pa mga mapanghusga sa kapwa akala mo naman kung sinong mga kagalang galang.

Hindi pa rin nadadala sa pagboto sa mga taong corrupt

Kapag magaling mag English label agad ng matalino na hindi naman inaanalyze mabuti yung content ng sinasabi, minsan hindi narerealize non sense lang rin.

Kapag nagkamali sa grammar kahit kaunti lang lalaitin na agad at mamatahin pa na hindi naman tinuturo kung ano yung tama.

Minamaliit ang Filipino subject.

Nanliliit sa sarili sa pagiging pinoy pero kapag sinabihan lang na mukhang Spanish, Latina, Hapon o kung ano pa proud na proud.

Mahilig magparinig o maghamon ng away sa facebook kapag hinarap iiyak iyak

Good thing while my Dad and my relatives are so ashamed of being Filipino and being here in the Phil., naging iba ako sa kanila. It is true marami rin akong hindi gusto sa Pinas but in the end the fact na sa Pinas ako pinanganak at lumaki of course I must be proud of being pinoy no matter what.

[lovemeagain30]

Living abroad for couple of years now I can be sure in saying this that people who speaks English as their primary language doesn't  make them "more" competitive compared to others who are non English speakers. It takes more than a languange to make that edge!

Para sakin I considered Filipino language as our platform of who we are as a person. Tumingin Ka sa salamin makikita mong Pinoy Ka! Though you hate your kind pero you can't remove the fact you belong to that race. I have friends of different nationalities and some of them are multilingual. They first learned their native language at home when they're very young. Kung may ibang lenguahe sillang natutunan Hindi kinalimutan ituro ng magulang nila Kung ano Ang dapat una nilang matutunan. Sa totoo Lang other nationalities are bilib with Pinoy's kasi napaka flexible natin when it comes to communication. yes there people who speaks Barok English pero they can be understood! Other nationalities are the same let's say Japanese and Arabs but do we look down at them because of that? Do you think Americans are very good in their grammar??Some people should work with their kind to know that they're not even good with their own spelling! Much more composed a simple business letter.

Isa yan sa ugaling pinoy ang inaayawan ko, ang masyadong minamaliit ang kakayahan natin at tinitignan ang ibang lahi na mas mabuti at angat kesa satin..napapakita natin eto sa salitang ginagamit sa bahay. Gagawin mong primary language ng anak mo ay English pero nakatira naman kayo sa Pinas?? Parang may Mali naman dun. Dinaig Pa tayo ng ibang lahi gusto matuto ng lenguahe natin tapos tayo mismo hindi makasalita ng tamang Tagalog , parang mukhang t**** naman tayo nun di ba??

[TysLolakins]

@Purple_power and @lovemeagain30,
umaayon ako sa lahat ng sinabi nyo, bilib ako dahil nasabi nyo lahat ang nasa saloobin ko.


tama, marami tayong ugali na hindi maganda pero hindi dapat umaabot na ikinakahiya na natin ang pagiging Filipino natin.  magagalit si Gat Jose Rizal, sige kayo.


back on topic,  what i don't like the most is when some pinoys look down at other pinoys who they think are not hip, cool, worldly, sophisticated enough for their taste, be it in the Philippines or abroad.  why the feeling of contempt?  that's the part i don't understand.

[Purple_Power]

Isama mo pa yung matapobre yung mismong social climber o galing sa hirap hindi yung anak mayaman. I agree naramdaman ko rin talaga na they define you as a person on how much money can you make and if not then sorry palpak ang tao. tsk tsk tsk.....

Meron akong kilala na bata, nag-aaral sa Ateneo tapos English speaking. Kinausap ko rin siya ng English pero hindi straight kasi ganun naman tayo diba? Kapag Pinoy naman kausap natin taglish. Sabi ba naman sa Lola... Si Ate A nga kapag kinakausap ko nagtatagalog pa rin eh! As in  What is he trying to project? Seems that yung English ginagawang WOW factor kapag may tagalog you are wrong.

[ataypool]

People may hate me for saying this because it seems to be the norm now.

If you go to a mid-priced family restaurant, you will see the maids in the background, as if they don't exist.

They may sit on the same table but either they don't eat with the employers (obvious naman, no plates in front of them) or eat their Jollibee burger once their employers tell them.

Worst I've seen was in Mesclun at Eastwood. The maid carrying a baby was just standing next to their table while the 'masters' eat. Hindi umiiyak ang baby pero nang matapos na kumain iyong mother kinuha ang anak niya pero umupo siya. Sinabihan ang maid na kumain na. Akala ko papakain iyong pizza na natira, iyon pala ang katulong may dalang Jollibee burger.

Give them some respect in public.

[mooncake and leaves]

^ Yikes.

I don't like the practice of having maids in general. Even when I was living in the Philippines, from an early age, hindi ko na gusto. Naloloka ako sa mga families na stay at home naman yung isang parent pero meron pa ring yaya and maids. Ang garbo lang masyado. Oh well. That's just my opinion though. Napapaisip lang ako what these people do with their time.

Anyway, back to the topic:
1. Chismosa. I get asked if I have Filipino friends here in the US and the answer is of course yes. But I don't have a Filipino barkada. I tried. Pero sila mismo nagsisiraan. I think one-on-one, Filipinos are ok as friends. But collectively, especially those na medyo gurang na, disaster.
2. Mahilig magpaligoy ligoy. Hindi ka na lang prangkahin ano ba gusto nila mangyari.
3. Diversity is not celebrated. Isa lang ang concept ng beauty ng Pinoy. Ayan tuloy, magkakamukha lahat ng celebs lol. And I mean LAHAT. I watched asap for the first time in years and I couldnt tell them apart.
4. On that note, people like stupid things. Stupid tv shows, stupid movies, stupid music. Which is fine, kung entertainment lang talaga. Problem is, when a lot of people source their values and their judgment from these things.
5. People are willing to put up with crap. Be it in their personal relationships, in their career and in turn, this reflects in the government we have.


Isip pa ako.

[junetwentythree]

^^ Wow. I don't even have words for that kind of horrific treatment.

I agree with mooncake and leaves, I really don't like the concept of having household help. Are Filipinos really that incapable of keeping their house on their own?

[rics]

I actually do not see anything wrong with having househelp if they can afford it.
Even mga puti here in our neighborhood meron nanny/caregiver.
If I can afford one, why not.

[pinklilac]

Hindi rin ako masyado nakikipag mingle sa mga kababayan dito dahil:
 ..mahihilig sa away
..Hindi marunong magtago ng sikreto or private na infos tungkol sa isang tao
...ungrateful like magluto ka pipintasan pa
...nag eexpect ng mamahaling regalo pag may okasyon (may pinay friend ako pinintasan niregalo nya sa isang pinay saying "ito lang??) 
 OT pero mas gusto kong bisita at bisitahin ang mga Aussie friends namin ni husband kase walang stress

[junetwentythree]

I actually do not see anything wrong with having househelp if they can afford it.
Even mga puti here in our neighborhood meron nanny/caregiver.
If I can afford one, why not.

Nannies in America are rarely stay at home and function as much as a maid in the Philippines does, unless they're really getting paid the big bucks. Which brings me to another point...we know damn well that maids in the Philippines don't get nearly as much and are treated poorly to boot.

[tunamaki]

*Mareklamo sa trabaho (di na lang mag resign kung ayaw yong ginagawa nila)
*Walang disiplina (I have special hatred sa mga taong sumisingit sa pila, sinasalubong ang mga lumalabas ng elevators/bumababa sa public transport.Hindi mag intay!)
*Mahilig magpalibre (Jusme mag aya ka lang lumabas or gumimik ang bungad agad "libre mo ko?)
*Discriminatory!!! (Ang lakas lang mag discriminate ng mga pinoy lalo sa kulay ng balat. Saka yong mga taong grabe mang discriminate sa members ng LGBT, sarap lang pagbabatukan).

Matami pa...pero eto lang naisip ko at the moment

[Purple_Power]

Umangat lang ng kaunti sa buhay lumalaki na agad ang ulo.  Wala pa namang napapatunayan.

Nagpupumilit ipag-aral ang mga anak sa mamahaling school kahit wala namang pambayad tapos yun pala hinihingi lang sa kamag-anak for bragging purposes within the family.

Mahilig mangutang kapag singilan parating nawawala. Uutang para pa sa luho.

Nagrerely parati sa sabi sabi ng iba.

Financial ignorance hanggang sa na-iiscam gaya ng nangyari nung nakaraang buwan na napabalita pa.

Madaling magpaniwala sa sabi sabi na hindi nagreresearch or hindi nagcoconsulta sa expert.

Mahilig makiuso kahit hindi bagay sa kanila.

May mga matatanda na tinetake advantage nang husto pagiging matanda nila. Mag impose sila ng respeto pero sila itong ubod ng bastos, mura pa ng mura.

[akthung]

Nannies in America are rarely stay at home and function as much as a maid in the Philippines does, unless they're really getting paid the big bucks. Which brings me to another point...we know damn well that maids in the Philippines don't get nearly as much and are treated poorly to boot.

you see its happening in this very thread.

if there's household help. then fine.

if there's no household help. fine din.

no judgement.

we pinoys love to put some sort of judgement, issue, pretense, etc.

in other countries, people leave many things as it is. whether kung totoong mayaman or not.  can afford or not or pinipilit...its their thing.