Author Topic: Wives Who Are the Breadwinners  (Read 31591 times)

kriztina

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Re: Wives Who Are the Breadwinners
« Reply #40 on: July 21, 2014, 09:50:40 am »
Share ko lang buhay ko. hehe

1st-4th year namin may stable job si hubby. Although sa akin galing yung mga bayarin sa gastusin ok lang minsan nagaabot siya pang grocery, milk nun bata saka vaccine. That time nag start un family business sa side nun mother ko kaya may income din ako. Pag negative ako that time nakakahiram ako kay hubby pambayad sa loan sa business. Kaya walang problem sa pera. Nakakaraos naman sabi nga nila.

Nung nanganak ako sa 1st baby sa pera ko kinuha yung pambayad sa hospital buti bumalik kase may SSS ako.

Church wedding namin 2009 (2005 Civil wedding namin) na pressure na ako sa family ko kase only girl ako, gusto ni daddy hatid ako sa altar at sagrado katoliko both side kaya kaylangan ng church blessing. Kaya ako na rin gumastos matapos na lang.

5yr up to now 8th yr na namin. 2010 nag resign siya and want niya daw mag transfer sa Sales mas malaki income daw. Pinigilan ko siya that time kase di pa kaya ng negosyo na hawak ko pero siya pa rin nasunod. Nag networking at Insurance agent siya pero wala din nangyari mas lalo siya nawalan ng income. Tapos sa bahay na lang siya lately, ok naman sana kaya lang madalas sa bahay pag uwi ako pa mag aasikaso ng food namin paguwi. Ilang times na kami nagusap pero wala pa din, nahihiya na rin ako sa mother ko kase madalas ko pagtakpan regarding sa trabaho niya. Pero feeling ko alam naman nila kase ikaw ba naman asawa ng anak mo nasa bahay araw-araw.

Madalas kase na compare ko sa daddy ko, lumaki kasi kaming siya ang nagtrabaho sa amin, tapos ako now nung may family ako ang bumubuhay sa amin. Feeling ko mula ng kinasal kami ako na bumuhay sa amin. Mahaba lang ata pasensiya ko, di ako nagger kaya madalas di ko siya kinakausap, pero minsan naiisip ko na hiwalayan. Nasa 21th century na tayo kaya pag may asawa na ganito dapat atang iwanan muna para mauntog. hehe

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Re: Wives Who Are the Breadwinners
« Reply #41 on: July 21, 2014, 06:43:53 pm »

^ Bakit ayaw mo kausapin muna ang asawa mo?

Tsaka it is not as if you are asking him to provide everything. At the minimum, masupport man lang nya sarili nya or makatulong (kahit hindi monetary). Bakit ikaw pa kelangan mag asikaso ng work sa bahay kung whole day naman sya nasa bahay?


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Re: Wives Who Are the Breadwinners
« Reply #42 on: July 23, 2014, 10:27:12 am »
Ayoko rin maging bread winner kasi I admire in a man his capability to provide for the family. But sa economy ngayon hinde rin natin masisisi, for a time naging bread winner ang mom ko but it was just a few months, may winowork na project yung dad ko na big money rin ang product. So, hinde ko tinitignan ng masama ang mga mas maliit ang kita na lalake kaysa sa mga asawa nya kasi hinde natin alam baka may winowork din yun na long term project that would ensure big returns. I do not like how ever yung tipong lulong na sa bisyo or ewan kaya hinde nakaka raket,, I guess it is the kindness and respect that you have for each other that matters. Some earn bigger that their husbands but don't make a huge fuss about it kasi nga naman ego ng lalake ang naapektuhan, pero kung nagugutom na ang mga anak mo eh ibang usapan nayan.

kikaygimikera

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Re: Wives Who Are the Breadwinners
« Reply #43 on: October 15, 2014, 07:04:44 am »
I sometimes feel like I am one.

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Re: Wives Who Are the Breadwinners
« Reply #44 on: October 15, 2014, 09:30:17 am »
Sadly mga sis, I'm also one of those who is the breadwinner. We just got married last year mga sis. All along I thought mga ilang months lang ako ganto since andami niyang plans nun d pa kami kasal. Sadly, puro lang plans yun. Di na rin kasi siya bumalik abroad para mag-work. Kahit yun ibibigay sa family niya, sa akin pa niya inaasa. Pinipilit ko na nga na maghnap man lang siya ng work dito kahit mababa un sweldo pra lang may pandagdag kami sa panggastos kaso wa epek pa rin sa kanya. Nakakainis pag umuuwi siya sa kanila, inom at mahjong pa inaatupag niya, eh wala na nga siyang pera. May time pa na sobra akong na-ddepress since ngayon ko lang talaga naramdaman yun gipitin sa dami ng bnbyaran ko . When I was single, I was supporting my family pero may naiiwan pa para pang-travel and shopping. Ngayon, I even can't remember the last time I treated myself for those luxuries. Minsan, naiisip ko nga anlaking pagkakamali na nagpakasal ako sa kanya.

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Re: Wives Who Are the Breadwinners
« Reply #45 on: October 16, 2014, 07:40:42 am »

^ You should communicate this to your hubby without hurting his feelings.

I think sis, iprioritize mo savings MO. I emphasize "mo" kasi dapat sa sarili mo lang iyan in case of emergencies. 

There is nothing wrong naman being a breadwinner. Pero agreeing to be the victim na ikaw pa ang magtutos ng needs ng pamilya ng asawa mo - ibang usapan na iyan. Learn to say NO na wala kang extra.  Tapos mag inom/mahjong, tuwing uuwi sya - ikaw pa magbibigay?  Learn to say NO, wala kang extra.  So kung basic needs ng asawa mo, fine, kasi nakatira sa poder mo.  Pero beyond that, NO way. Para naman ma realize nya kelangan nya magtrabaho. Ang problem is if you agree to this set up, aabusuhin ka talaga.


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Re: Wives Who Are the Breadwinners
« Reply #46 on: October 19, 2014, 04:38:03 pm »
Hi mga sis, thanks to all who participated in our study of female breadwinner wives. Thanks to ikaela, ava_garde, project60, ezonme, janachen. We were able to interview 12 women in this project.

As promised, here are the results of our research. Please note that names were changed to ensure anonimity of participants. Also, I deleted almost all of the transcriptions, kaya maikili na 'to, LOL!

Six vital themes emerged from the interviews. These themes tackled the experiences of the participants as female breadwinners in the Philippine context. Two of the six themes were expressed by all participants, while the other four were expressed by more than half of the respondents. The six themes that emerged are: (1) acquisition of breadwinner role through circumstance (80%), (2) having a strong sense of responsibility (90%), (3) feeling more empowered (100%), (4) exercising deference to their partner (90%), (5) valuing their partner’s contribution no matter how simple (90%), and (6) experiencing sporadic feelings of resentment (100%).

1. Acquisition of Breadwinner Role Through Circumstance and Having a Strong Sense of Responsibility

Faced with their current realities, the participants decided to “step up” as it were, in order to support and sustain their family’s needs. As Arlene reasons for instance, it is the couple’s duty to help each other out, such that when one is no longer able, the other has an obligation to carry the additional burden.

In Annaliz’s case, she was left with no choice given that her husband already resigned, placing all hopes on what turned out to be a risky business venture. The same is true for Yanice who works as a house helper. She was compelled to work triply hard just to make ends meet. Having been thrust unexpectedly into the breadwinner role, these women had no recourse but to step up in a huge way so to speak, in order to support their families.

For others like Erice, Ina, and even Erlinda, there is also the realization that even if they wanted to quit their jobs, they cannot do so without compromising their families’ needs. Thus, some of them like Ina, choose instead to persevere, often using their children as motivation to go on.

Overall, the participants donned on the breadwinner role in answer to life circumstances where they were faced with a choice of being resigned to a more difficult life, or taking charge of their own lives. One noticeable difference among the participants relative to their experience as breadwinners however, is Elly. For her part, she knew exactly what she was getting into long before she married. While others were left with no choice but to become primary earners, Elly admits to choosing to be a breadwinner in order to maintain a certain lifestyle.

2. Strong Sense of Responsibility

Another clear theme that emerged from the data is that Filipino FBWs seem to have a strong sense of responsibility. As was pointed out previously, majority of the participants in the study became breadwinners purely out of circumstance and not by conscious choice. It bears pointing out therefore, that some were already breadwinners prior to getting married. In the case of Hazelle, Erlinda, and Lani for example, these women were already providing for their immediate families long before settling down. In fact, some continue to be breadwinners for their families of origin.

3. Feeling more Empowered

All nine participants expressed feeling a sense of empowerment as a result of their experience as a female breadwinner. For some it came as a realization, while for others, it was something they have always known.

Twenty nine year old Ina shares the same feeling and adds that the realization came as a surprise. The experience has also emboldened her to go at things alone in case things between her and her husband fail to work out.

Being the primary earner of their respective families allowed these women to challenge their own preconceived gender stereotypes in relation to what a woman can and cannot do, or even what a woman should and should not be doing. Erlinda, who earns 70% of her family’s total income working as a Supply Chain Manager for a health company points out that being the breadwinner freed her from notions about women only fulfilling a housewife role.

In addition, assuming the role of breadwinner made Lani, who earns 75% of her family’s income, not only more confident, but also more certain about her feelings towards her husband, especially in light of their current marital difficulties.

4. Exercising Deference to One’s Partner

It is interesting to note that despite being the primary breadwinner of their respective families, nine out of the eleven participants did not automatically take on the responsibility of making decisions for their families. It did not make much of a difference how much contribution they make, as they all based their decision-making arrangements traditionally, or at the very least, cooperatively.

The most common arrangement in terms of decision-making among the participants is one that is based on mutual respect for one another. Elly, who works as a Recruitment Head at a multi-national company shares her experience:

Even Annaliz who mostly takes charge of everything, still defers to her husband when it comes to making decisions about the family. She clarifies that even though she makes important financial decisions, she does not believe that the power dynamics in their relationship have shifted:

Lani and her husband also have the same arrangement. While she is free to decide how she wants to spend her own money, Lani nevertheless consults her husband regarding other matters of import. The same is true for Erlinda and her husband, who also makes decisions mutually.

Still for others, deference is paid to their husbands merely because they are men. That is, some of the participants seem to insist on including their husbands in on the decision-making process simply by virtue of them being men. The most telling of this tendency is shared by Hazelle, who not only supports her own family, but also supports the family of her two siblings: “Kino-consult ko pa rin syempre. Lalaki kasi eh. Nirerespeto ko desisyon nya kahit na minsan salungat sa gusto kong mangyari.” Also, another participant, Erice, views joint-decision making as giving respect to her husband.

Arlene on the other hand, sees the ability to make decisions as a right of the partner.

Nevertheless, there are two participants who do not share the same arrangements when it comes to decision-making. Yanice, who works as a house helper for example, says that she has always been in charge of financial decision-making even when her husband was still able to work. While Ina would still consult her husband occasionally, she nevertheless feels that her husband has ceded decision-making rights to her:

5. Valuing their Partner’s Contribution

Another theme that emerged from the interviews conducted was the participants’ valuing of their partner’s contribution, however simple. What became evident is that the participants seem not to mind the disproportionate support relative to finances as long as their partners make up for it in other ways. As Arlene points out: “Tayo namang mga babae hindi madamot. Ibibigay natin hanggat kaya natin. Ang gusto lang natin konting lambing, effort, sorry, thank you.” This is clearly evident in Dina’s as well as Teresa’s case as they reveal that their husbands make sure that they feel relaxed after a long day at work.

The same may be said of Hazelle, who currently earns 90% of their family’s income. She appreciates the little things her husband does even if at times, all he can do is take care of household chores: “Alam ko kasi hanggang dun lang muna ang kaya niya.”

Erlinda on the other hand appreciates how her husband makes sure that he is able to spend quality time with their children despite being busy with work.

One participant in particular is very understanding and compassionate towards her husband’s meager contributions.

Similarly, Lani says she harbors no ill feelings towards her husband because she understand why he had to quit. She especially appreciates his efforts to earn in spite of what happened to him: “Hindi ako nagagalit sa kanya na nawala sya sa barko kasi accident yung nangyari sa kanya. Hindi naman sya naging bum din kasi, marunong syang dumiskarte at maghanap ng ibang pagkakakitaan.”

Curiously, two of the eleven participants do not seem to share the valuing the other participants give to their partners’ efforts. Comparing their experiences with those of the other participants, it becomes clear that Ina’s and Annaliz’s respective husbands fail to perform certain deeds that is commonly interpreted as showing concern. Annaliz in particular, decries her husband’s lack of sensitivity.

What is clear then from the data is that whatever frustrations the participants may be feeling about their current circumstances, it is usually counterbalanced by their partner’s efforts to make life a little easier for them—no matter if the effort is as simple as washing the dishes—so the wife no longer has to. This was distinctly pointed out in Erice’s case: “… But when my husband shows he’s not pabigat, hindi ko masyado ramdam yung hirap.”

6. Experiencing Sporadic Feelings of Resentment

Despite valuing their partners’ contributions to ease their burden of being the primary breadwinners, the participants of this study are not immune to having feelings of resentment towards their partners whenever they feel that the men in their lives are being insensitive to their plight. These feelings of resentment are especially poignant at any time the women are feeling particularly stressed out.

Sometimes these could even lead to arguments between couples. These feelings of resentment are usually triggered whenever participants feel that their partners are not being considerate of their situation as breadwinners. This is evident in Erice’s case as she sometimes feel that her husband is not doing enough for their family.

Sometimes they even lead to feelings of self-pity as in the case Lani, when she wonders about her fate: “But there are also times when I have these moments of depression or questioning my fate na, ‘san na yung plano namin na sariling house?’ Minsan when I cook in our current house, I’ll feel sad kasi hindi ito yung plano kong kitchen, kasi nga di natuloy yung house building namin.” Yanice for her part, would sometimes wonder: “Minsan naawa ako sa sarili ko kasi dapat tulungan ang mag-asawa diba?” Not unlike the others, she also gets angry when she comes home after a hard day’s work and find the house untidy.

Even Elly who, it will be recalled, willingly chose to be a breadwinner, still feels resentment over the seeming insensitivity of her husband.

What the answers of the participants seem to suggest is that husbands tend to unwittingly offend their partners when they fail to take into consideration the magnitude of their wives’ responsibility. Sometimes, husbands fail to take into account what their partner goes through that they come across as insensitive as illustrated by Lani’s case.


Reference:

Paraguas, S., Guintu, V., & Cruz, N.(2014). The Phenomenological Experience of Female Breadwinners in Metro Manila. Ateneo de Manila University, Quezon City, Philippines.
« Last Edit: October 19, 2014, 04:43:09 pm by glamorosa_09 »

foxylady_89

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Re: Wives Who Are the Breadwinners
« Reply #47 on: October 21, 2014, 01:57:42 pm »
nice one... :)

FayeP

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Re: Wives Who Are the Breadwinners
« Reply #48 on: October 22, 2014, 08:21:21 am »
mga sis goodmorning...


sis glamorosa, I'm glad na ok na un study nyo....

mga sis, nun una may mga naririnig ako sa mother ko at sa ibang kamag anak at kapitbahay na kesyo bakit daw ako kumuha ng bubuhayin ko, kesyo dapat daw matalino ako sa pagpili ng asawa, dapat daw ang kinuha ko eh un bubuhay sakin and not the other way around....


sabi ko naman, di naman ako nag asawa para kumuha ng bubuhay sakin...di kasi nila alam kun bakit si hubby un pinili ko, di nila alam na kahit walang work si hubby ngayon eh desisyon talaga namin un kesa kumuha kami ng yaya.  Di din nila naiintindihan na kahit walang work si hubby super hands on cya sa bahay at ako wala na iniintindi...


sakin man galing un finances, pero un ginhawa na binibigay ng asawa ko sa daily life namin dahil cya ang nag-aasikaso sa bahay eh sobrang laking bagay nun para sakin...

kumbaga pera lang ang sagot ko samin, un pagpapalaki sa anak at paghahandle sa lahat cya gumagawa....

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Re: Wives Who Are the Breadwinners
« Reply #49 on: October 22, 2014, 09:43:59 am »
^gotta agree with you sis. my hubby is a very simple guy, at kung laki ka sa traditional na pamilya iisipin nila na wala sya pangarap sa buhay. at dahil mataas ang pangarap ko i think i kinda disappoint my parents when i marry him. i think i saw in him a trait i could never have, genuine kindness, hahaha maldita lang ang peg.. i was born yata in a wrong body dapat yata guy ako kasi sobrang strong ng personality ko  ;D  between the two of us, my husband is more nurturing, domesticated and sobrang pasensyoso. although mas malaki sweldo ko di ko masasabi binubuhay ko sya kasi MIL ko pa rin nagpapalamon sa pamilya ko (split family kami so nasa province sila) at SIL ko nag aalaga sa mga anak namin. what we did is to save up and invest in farming which sya talaga ang nakatutok, and i think we became better couple coz of our partnership. i just made a realization that yes i am good with finances, but i'm bad at business decisions/dealings in which he excels given the opportunity. i'm really proud of him and i'm sure my parents are too.   ;)

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Re: Wives Who Are the Breadwinners
« Reply #50 on: October 22, 2014, 11:25:38 am »
glamorosa, sorry I wasn't able to reply to you. New GTalk members can't reply to personal messages or send a message to another member, sayang. Would have loved to have participated in your study.

sis FayeP, wag mo papansin yung ibang tao. Basta kayo ng asawa mo, maganda ang samahan, yun naman ang pinaka importante.  In my situation, although my husband is working, siya ang mas domesticated. Wala akong hirap sa bahay. My husband cooks and even washes the dishes after, although I offer to help. Galing pa sya sa office nun.

Rumaraket din ang asawa ko, bukod sa office nya, pero kahit anong raket nya, lumalabas mas malaki pa rin ang contribution ko. Alam nya yun, pero nagsusumikap pa rin sya. I can't help but love him more for that. Yun lang talaga, iba ang may business, which is what I have with my family. Kaya kahit mas malaki ang ibinibigay ko, sobrang thankful ko pa rin sa asawa ko.




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Re: Wives Who Are the Breadwinners
« Reply #51 on: October 22, 2014, 01:03:08 pm »
^sis, di ko nalang din pinapansin un mga nagsasabi ng kun ano ano (lalo na si nanay haha) kasi di naman nila mage-gets eh kahit ipaliwanag ko pa kaya hamo na lang... saka wala din kasi ako tyaga sa gawain bahay although gusto ko magluto....buti na lang un asawa ko super tyaga...sa bahay talagang maayos, lagi kami may sampay sa labas kasi laba cya ng laba, tapos ok naman un mga ulam namin (cook cya dati sa isang resto sa quezon ave) kaya masarap food....

so ano pa ba hahanapin ko...eh kun magkaron ako ng asawang nagbibigay nga sakin ng pera pero may mga extra curricular activities pala eh di wag na lang, kanya na pera nya..

outandaboutph

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Re: Wives Who Are the Breadwinners
« Reply #52 on: October 22, 2014, 03:49:42 pm »
Breadwinner ako for more than 2 years. Now, mga 85% na lang. Actually, hindi siya naging problem sa amin ni hubby or naging cause ng away or problema. Worry ko lang noon, baka bumaba self esteem ni niya dahil siya ang naiiwan sa house. Good thing nakakapagstart narin siya sa ngayon.

megansmomma

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Re: Wives Who Are the Breadwinners
« Reply #53 on: October 22, 2014, 09:55:47 pm »
I am the eldest among four children raised by mom & pop so I may be YES ;)

It is hard, i am really into this situation now. it is quite a bottleneck..  I am just thankful that my husband is really understanding, we both have jobs so I am pretty much lucky myself. i am doing everything for him to still have patience with my current situation that I still need to allot something for my parents & siblings. They are already working but is still striving to really land a good job & knock it off. So i just pray that soon it will happen to 1 of them. just that alone i guess I can start unloading some of my "Sisterly" duties.

Patience and patience. if di pa kaya bumitaw because you can see na di talaga kaya, they still need you of course, financially. try to let them understand nalang na you have your own family now and a growing family that has monetary obligations too. Suwerte if both are you husband & wife has jobs but if not? ayun lang.. we don't owe anyone an explanation, YOUR FAMILY will understand just keep the lines of communications open ;) 

glamorosa_09

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Re: Wives Who Are the Breadwinners
« Reply #54 on: October 24, 2014, 11:41:08 pm »
Thanks fayep and nathanielle for acknowledging my invitation :)

@fayep

Kahit hindi lang siguro sa pagiging breadwinner, medyo nakakabother lang din talaga if our parents don't seem to be happy with our choices and decisions. Kahit hindi man natin aminin sa sarili natin, we want them to be happy and approve of our situation. But no matter how we try to make them understand, it's either hindi nila magets or ayaw nilang intindihin, because for some of them, what they believe is the right one or is the best for us. Like what megansmomma said, keep the communiction open na lang.

But yeah, we won't always get their approval. Maybe, they'll get disappointed, maybe they'll eventually understand, or maybe not at all. Pero ganun talaga. Life goes on... sa situation mo, what matters is maganda ang takbo ng marriage nyo at masaya at panatag ang mga anak niyo.

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Re: Wives Who Are the Breadwinners
« Reply #55 on: December 18, 2014, 02:57:07 am »
^ Sis Glamorosa, sensya na hindi ko inaccept yung invitation sa reason na may work na ang hubby ko.. but based sa study mo, marami din sana akong gustong masagot and ma learn from your questions sa . But, after reading naman , marami din akong natutunan na lalong nag papa intindi sa akin sa situation namin :)

glamorosa_09

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Re: Wives Who Are the Breadwinners
« Reply #56 on: December 18, 2014, 04:40:00 pm »
sis loveleah, oks lang sis... thank you pa rin dahil you replied sa message ko :)

I'm glad may nakuha ka sa write-up namin :)

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Re: Wives Who Are the Breadwinners
« Reply #57 on: December 18, 2014, 05:33:38 pm »
nice. :-) dami pala hehe

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Re: Wives Who Are the Breadwinners
« Reply #58 on: December 19, 2014, 12:40:55 am »
Sadly mga sis, I'm also one of those who is the breadwinner. We just got married last year mga sis. All along I thought mga ilang months lang ako ganto since andami niyang plans nun d pa kami kasal. Sadly, puro lang plans yun. Di na rin kasi siya bumalik abroad para mag-work. Kahit yun ibibigay sa family niya, sa akin pa niya inaasa. Pinipilit ko na nga na maghnap man lang siya ng work dito kahit mababa un sweldo pra lang may pandagdag kami sa panggastos kaso wa epek pa rin sa kanya. Nakakainis pag umuuwi siya sa kanila, inom at mahjong pa inaatupag niya, eh wala na nga siyang pera. May time pa na sobra akong na-ddepress since ngayon ko lang talaga naramdaman yun gipitin sa dami ng bnbyaran ko . When I was single, I was supporting my family pero may naiiwan pa para pang-travel and shopping. Ngayon, I even can't remember the last time I treated myself for those luxuries. Minsan, naiisip ko nga anlaking pagkakamali na nagpakasal ako sa kanya.

hi sis we're on the same boat. sent you a PM..

izabelle

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Re: Wives Who Are the Breadwinners
« Reply #59 on: December 19, 2014, 04:45:48 am »
For me, Marriage is partnership and hindi dapat maging issue talaga sino mas malaki ang kinikita at sino mas maliit.

I think and I always believe na Husband and Wife dapat may kanya kanyang role sa family.

Kung ang husband ay masipag sa bahay, maalaga sa wife at sa anak, Matino, walang bisyo at masinop sa pera, para sa akin higit pa yan sa asawa na may work nga pero puro bisyo at sakit ng ulo.

Ang pagiging full time sa bahay ay isa din matatawag na full time job e. Mas mahirap pa nga kasi ang dami aasikasuhin. So kung ganitong klase ang husband, para sa akin no problem kahit ako pa main earner.

At the end of the day, ang importante nagkakaintindihan ang husband and wife sa roles nila sa family and they support each other. :)

Sa case ko, hindi ako ang main earner, i have friends and mga kakilala na ganito ang set up pero hands down ako sa mga asawa nila dahil sobrang galing mag alaga ng mga anak at masinop sa bahay. :) bilib ako sa mga ganyan lalaki!


 

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