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aquacharly

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MAMASQUEAK!  PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE include me in that group email or PM. 

thanks!!!

aquacharly

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Lesson learned:  Avoid the 2 week period of the FRENCH OPEN.

Ngek, we matched smack;  so a lot of work had to be done for the hotels for teka (24 na daw kami)
Akala ko my exec sec was gonna resign on me and the talabas!  lol. 
The travel agent gives us hotels for the itinerary and to choose from.  But of course, mas more benefit for money if you go straight with your arrangements. And ang dami considerations to filter.

There is a problem too with getting rooms for 3 people.
Standard is 2 per room since well, masikip rooms in Paris and no space for a spare bed generally.

Used Booking.com and Expedia for the hotels.
Why? Coz if we cancel or change our minds about hotel choices --  it is easy to do so through these entities.  Ang hotels, napansin ko kung minsan, say:  "contact this number"  Susko, imagine my overseas phone bill tapos Europe is 6 hours behind us, coordinate pa time... patay na negosyo ko, resign na talaga si exec sec.  lol
Chose no booking fee, free cancellation hotels. 
But we made final choices na kasi hello, French Open -- san matutulog the talabas? sa Park? susko.

I issued my 1st Warning:  anybody whips out a Chinese passport -- sagasaan ko.  hahaha, no... iwanan talaga namin.  As in, pa interview ka solo kasi doubt on the consul's mind is contagious -- hindi yung haharap ka sa consul with other talabas for group interview.    ma red tide kayong lahat.

kinderlola

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hi everyone, pwede po bang magpacheck ng itinerary?

T   Disneyland Paris
W   Montparnasse Tower / Musee Rodin / Hotel des Invalides  / Saint Germain des Pres
   Luxembourg Gardens / Jardins du Trocadero (fountains in the evening)
H   Musee d'Orsay / Sacre Coeur Basilica / Place de Abbesses
   Church of Saint Pierre / Chateau de Vincennes
F   Musee du Louvre / Jardin du Tuilleries / Place de la Concorde
   Avenue des Champs Elysees / Arc de Triomphe / Palais de Chaillot (Trocadero)
S   Versailles / Tour Eiffel (at night, go up the tower)
S   Centre Pompidou / Notre Dame / Le Saint Chapelle
   Crypt Archaelogique / Conciergerie / Seine River cruise
   Shakespeare and Co. (7PM reading) / Pantheon / Saint Sulpice
M   Galeries Lafayette (shopping)

meron po ba kayong masasuggest na idagdag or tanggalin? doable po ba ito? binase ko lang po ito sa mga nakita kong itineraries online.

thanks in advance po :)

sa tuesday na ang appointment ko, wala pa akong itinerary haha. sa french embassy, tanggap ba ang hotel accommodations made thru booking.com or better na direct sa hotels?


vhanya

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mama squeak, kindly include me in your group e-mail as well! TIA!

letters_to_cleo

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mamaqueak, me too! how to join the group email? :-) thank you so much!

jeune

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Excited for our day trip to Paris next month! :) I live in Germany so one day is good for me as we can always drive whenever we want to. We decided to book a trip with USO and for $139/pax these included a visit to Eiffel Tower, Notre Dame Cathedral, the Arch of Triumph, and will have time for shopping! Then we'll head over to the Latin Quarter in the evening for an authentic five‐course meal served in a historic atmosphere. After dinner we're also going to marvel at the City of Lights on an evening boat cruise on the Seine River! Not bad for the price at all ;D

gwen10

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Hi @mamasqueak, i couldnt message you on the schengen visa thread... i apologize for doing it here.
i am currently preparing visa application for London and schengen (applying at the italian embassy). i have a few questions once again for you...
1. do i really have to course our application thru a travel agency. i have already booked our tickets, hotels, easyjet tickets. but do i need to books tours na din, like for amsterdam, london, rome, florence, venice and paris? we plan to get tours of each city plus some DIY tours... i just dont know how to make the itinerary for submission without the tours yet...
2. is it better to ask a travel agency to make a dummy travel tour for us when applying for visa since we plan to DIY this tour?
3. on the documents part: how many months do we need to submit- 3 or 6?- for credit card staments, bank statements?
4. we will be in europe from aug 19-sept12--- amsterdam (3days), london(5days), rome (2days),florence (5days),venice (2days) and paris(6days). do we need to specifically fill out activities for each day?
thanks @mamasqueak, you really help a lot in all our travel plans. do you have a travel agency? you seem very thorough, i admire it.

mama squeak!

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^sis, OT na tayo with your Qs so I'll be brief with the answers. I'll PM you for more detailed info.
In the meantime, you can also backread on the Schengen threads.

1. No, you don't have to course your application thru a travel agency. You can DIY everything.
2. You can but you will have to pay. DIY is FREE.
3. 3 months bank statements (no credit card statements)
4. Yes. I can send you a sample itinerary.

And no, I don't own a travel agency.  :)

**Edited: sis, check your inbox.  :)  **
« Last Edit: May 12, 2013, 09:24:02 pm by mama squeak! »

little_princess

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Last day in Paris and so far, we did well with our itinerary. What we did -

Day 1
Trocadero
Rue cler
Seine river cruise
Eiffel tower

Day 2
Louve
Jardin des tuileries
Concorde
Champs elysees
Arc du triomphe

Day 3
Pont nuef
Lockbridge
Notre dame
Saint chapelle
Conciergerie
Ile st louis
Galleries lafayette

Day 3
Jardins du luxembourg
St sulpice
Invalides
Rue st germaine

Day 4
Rue mouffetard
Chateau fountainebleu
Galleries lafayette
Sacre couer

We did a lot of walking, halos we took the metro lang to and from our hotel and it's very pleasant here right now. And we were taking it easy, leaving the hotel around 10/11am and will have dinner around 7 and be back at the hotel around 8pm.

Staying at hotel joyce at the 9th are. We super love it. Nice quirky rooms, good buffet breakfast, internet connection, open bar from 2-10pm, very near st george's metro.

Also, a few streets aways is our favorite restaurant, bistro de lorette. Super sarap!! One man chef pero amazing! 2 course meal is €26, 3 course us €31. Super sulit! Strawberries, crepes, ice cream and macaroons are our snacks :)

stormy

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@mama squeak, I followed your tip to get lang the pass for zones 1-3. I hope magamit namin kasi nakakatempt mag-taxi na lang lagi. I will read again your blog though I wrote down naman na mga tips you gave :)




mama squeak!

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^Hey thanks for visiting my blog, sis! Don't take taxis when in Paris kasi uber mahal and depending on where you are going ma-trapik pa. We've tried riding their bus and metros. The metros are way more convenient and faster. Nakakalito lang sa una to use it but once you get the hang of it madali na. The metros get you to the attractions faster, nama-maximise yung oras ninyo.

Yup, most of the attraction are in zones 1-3 kaya that would be your best pass. How long will you be visiting? If less than 3 days, just get the carnet of 10 tickets. If you will be traveling with someone you can share the tickets unlike the pass na individual ang gamit.

 :)   

bagaholic_chewy

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We used carnets din when we were in Paris. Tinantya ko kasi, di namin masusulit ang transpo pass since in a day, halos magkakalapit ang mga pinupuntahan namin, so me mga lakad-lakad din. Then bili na lang kami single-use tickets when we went to Versailles and sa Disneyland. Twice lang kami nagtaxi - once pauwi ng hotel kasi past midnight na at madami kaming bitbit (from shopping, hehe), and second time was papuntang airport (late kasi kami nagising).

What we got was the museum pass, mainly to skip the lines especially sa Louvre. Summer kasi kami nagpunta so expected na madaming tao at mahaba pila. Sulit din kasi madaming kasamang museums sa pass. I think we got the 3-day or 5-day museum pass, di ko na maalala which one exactly.

stormy

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^^yung carnet of tickets s tourism desk lang ba yun binibili mama squeak? Kasi sis yun gusto ko na bilhin kaso mister ko bumili since inaayos ko daughter namin. Una zones 1-5pa buti he asked me kaya sabi ko zones 1-3 lang.d bale sis maximize na lang namin haha less than 24 hrs pa lang kami dito nakaka-3 na taxi rides na kami. Sayang nga talaga pera. Thanks mama squeak i hope d kami mawala sa pagsakay sa metro :)

mama squeak!

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^you get the carnet at the train or metro stations. There are automated ticket dispensers but medyo nakakalito so better buy them at the ticket counters with human tellers  :)

Madali lang to use the metro. At first nakakalito since there are a lot of lines talaga. But as long as you know your stop and which direction to take you should be okay.

Enjoy your trip!   :)

little_princess

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We bought the visite pass and the museum pass, both are sulit naman for us. Nag pay lang kami ng extra for the train ride to fountainbleau. Twice lang dun kami nag taxi, to and from the train station as we have a lot of baggage! So mas better na mag taxi :) though better get the regular taxi kasi mas mahal yung mga mercedes benz.

melvel

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What would be a good day-trip out of Paris, aside from Versailles?   We have one free day and we want to spend it outside the city.   Balikan lang, preferably.

little_princess

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^ try chateau fountainbleau or the other chateaus outside paris if you are interested with them. I particularly like fountainbleau as its not crowded at all and most of the items are in its original condition. Shopping, theres an outlet store similar to bicester village in london

stormy

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Thanks mama squeak. Maayos naman mga lakad namin kahit na nagkakaligaw-ligaw kami sa exit.

Sa food :( dami pera na nasasayang. Kasama daughter namin na mag-7yo pa lang kaya sa mga restaurants kami kumakain kaso ang hirap pumili ng food. Pag breakfast walang problema kasi buffet naman nakakapili sya ng gusto nya. Pag lunch at dinner goodluck na talaga sa amin. Hinahanap ko nga yun namention mo sis na roasted chicken :) hindi ko lang talaga makita.

First time namin mag-ina sa paris kaya ok lang muna mag-adventure :)


aquacharly

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Hi, MAMA SQUEAK!  Thanks for all the advice.

Our talaba group of 19 landed in Paris, at different times in the morning of May 21st. 

Oh by the way, for the curious -- they ask NO QUESTIONS when entering, they just check your
Schengen Visa.  IF your passport photo does not match your face -- (either way, good or bad news -- hahaha) -- then  you will be asked to put your right pointer finger on the fingerprint scanning device.
That's all.  No Customs inspection. 

Moving between Terminals 1-3 of CDG is easy on their free airport shuttle (train) -- we had to go on that coz we had to all meet at Terminal 2.

The cheapest way to get from the airport to Paris is via the airport shuttle bus.  We chose the bus that stops at Gare Montparnasse, coz we still had to purchase our tickets for the next day's early morning trip to Lourdes.

LOURDES

1.  Because this Euro trip of siblings and inlaws was just planned spur of the moment (3 weeks & we were off), we had no time to purchase transpo tickets in advance.  Yes, as MAMASQUEAK says -- it pays to plan ahead of time -- our tickets to Lourdes (1st class 6 hrs on the TVG, direct or no stops at 8AM -- cost E240/260 each.  Half-price if purchased ahead of time.  Only at Gare Montparnasse.

2.  Lourdes is full of old people.  But lol!  in May -- the week we were there, there was this annual International Military Pilgrimage -- ang dami dami dami  hunks!  hahaha
The Moderne Hotel is most convenient, across the entry. 
Do not expect to get good-tasting  food at the restos, hay naku -- mahal pero well, basta.  Well, when 1 is hungry, sige na nga.  hehe 
But Lourdes is a great experience.  We had a teen with us, and she did not get bored at all.
We did it all in 3 days:
1st day:   arrival, confession (this is the best best place to do the Sacrament of Reconciliation, believe me), & attended the blessing of the sick (sige na, you go -- sira ulo  mo eh. lol). 
2nd day (the 1 full day) --  Lined up at 730   for 9AM opening of the Baths, grotto after; English Mass at 2PM; Stations of the Cross from 4-6PM;  rosary procession at 8PM;    then 11PM grotto mass and blessing
3rd Day:  Mass at 7AM; 8AM at the Taps; Departure at 10AM

3.  An alternative worth exploring is going to Lourdes via planes... there are 3 flights per day.
From the rail station to the hotel is generally only Euro 6-8.
The airport is 20minutes away, and will cost approximately Euro 30 lang by cab -- per our regular cab driver. 
Next time, I will try that, coz well -- plane fares really cost cheaper than train fares in Europe. 
Mas mabilis pa.
Be sure to book a taxi for your trip to the rail station, medj mahirap gets specially during the weekends.

Back in PARIS,  from Lourdes --
1.  We did not buy the Museum card.  IF you have been to Paris previously, or not keen on hitting all major museums -- do not bother.  The cost is offset ONLY IF  you will visit more than 4 museums. 

At the LOUVRE -- use the electronic ticket machines, you do not have to line up for more than 5 minutes.

At the D'ORSAY:  do NOT leave later than 3PM -- you will have a hard time with your hop on hop off bus, -- and it is extremely difficult to get a taxi.  The Metro is the better alternative.
BUT we almost got inconvenienced coz that day -- susko, there was an anti-gay marriage rally that made the Police close off Eiffel Tower and some Metro Stations after lunch.   
So, if there is some mass event scheduled for a day, best to keep your activities near your hotel.

2.  Yes, as MAMASQUEAK says -- make extensive use of the Metro.  'although, we found the taxi drivers mostly honest -- hindi like MManila and/or Rome taxi drivers -- lol, dami with fast meters or maloko.  It is the traffic that  will cost you more talaga

3.  Take note about TAXI FARES -- If you ask your hotel to call a taxi for you, be prepared to be charged starting from wherever the taxi driver started to go to you, including the time he waits for you  to come down -- the meter keeps running.  Not all cab drivers do that, but the majority called to hotels for pick-up do.

4.  SACRE COEUR -- be very very very careful here.
On each level/landing, there is a group  of at least 4 black men ( at times even more) on both sides of the stairs leading up to the church.  Nakaka intimidate.  We observed a Chinese couple, and another Caucasian couple who decided not to proceed up to the church after observing the actions of these men.
 
Do not even look at them, but do not act scared.  When they moved to approach and surround our small group of women (buti the men did not go with us, baka mapaaway pa sila) --  what I did was to make my eyes big, face hard, and say firmly & loudly: NO!  They tend to surround people going up or down, and we observed them targetting bags/purses -- so do not get distracted.  Or, they touch women's boobs/shoulder/neck/arm.  ughs
The scary part is the last level before hitting the church driveway -- the rough stairs curve and there is a cave-like roofing towards the end, where the men hide from others' sights & wait for people.
They try to sell you some charm or what, and harass you to overpay. 
Lol,  just past where they huddle is a painted warning on the floor:  a pink arrow pointing to them, stating: PICKPOCKETS here.   
 
At VERSAILLES --
1.  Take time to go on the Petit Train -- Euro 6something... It brings you around to 3 stops on the grounds, which most likely you will not bother to walk to.  You can stop at the 2nd Stop where they have that small lake for lunch/a snack.

2.  We did not take the tour, because our scheds were fluid --  so we just decided the day before when to go, and took the Metro and the connecting RER.  Easy.  Takes 30-40 minutes.  & more convenient, you stay as long/short as you want.  Wear comfy shoes (rubber shoes best), the cobble stones leading to the gates are hell on your ankles and soles.   

3. When you get out of the rail station at Versailles -- you hit the Tourism Info Office across and buy your tickets there (cost the same as at the gates) --  that saves you time lining up for a ticket, then lining up again for entry.
Just get an audio gadget -- easy to use (you are guided by room numbers posted on the floor at the entry to each room).

IF you can locate a grocery (ex SIMPLY) near your hotel -- you will save a lot on your juice drinks/snacks, fruits & hamon serrano.  :D 

BTW, it pays to have that bottle Brita for travels abroad.  If you drink a lot of water, that will save you a lot.  (Bought mine in the US, wala pa Manila sold).


mama squeak!

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@stormy, the poulet roti are just like our Baliwag or Andoks here. Mostly you'll find these in the markets and local neighborhoods that are not frequented by tourists. Wala rin akong nakikita nito sa mga touristy places. Mahal talaga if you keep eating at restaurants specially the ones near the popular tourist sites  :P  But what's important is you're having a good time naman with your family. Adventure talaga!  :)

@aquacharly, great trip report! I'm glad you and the talabas are enjoying your French adventure so far.

Actually the cheapest and fastest transport from CDG to central Paris for individual travelers, couples or a small group less than 4 members is still the RER B train at EUR9,00 with transfers to the metro. Although it's not necessarily convenient if you're the type to carry a lot of luggage but it still is the cheapest so far. 

Airport shuttles, depending on the number in your group will cost between EUR17-22 per pax. Or in your case since you are a big group it really comes out cheaper to hire the whole van/bus. Plus the convenience factor too since there will be somebody to help you load/unload your bags unlike taking the trains/metro. You're on your own.

So if it's convenience you're after and budget is secondary lang, airport shuttles or airport cabs are the way to go. 

On TGV trains, you are right. Same as plane fares the nearer your departure you buy your tickets the more expensive they will be. Train tickets in France go on sale 3 months prior to departure. This will be the best time to get promo fares. You can get 1st class tickets for the price of a regular fare 2nd class ticket during this time. So remember, buy your tickets 3 months in advance ONLY if you are sure na of your dates since these are non-refundable tickets.

Another option to travel around France is to take an airplane. Definitely faster. Not always cheap but there are promo fares offered by low cost carriers like Easyjet or Ryanair. So always compare the prices of both modes of transportation to get the best deals.

For me and hubby though, we've been flying all throughout our lives so we take every opportunity to travel by train (time-permitting) when in Europe. There is just something special with train travel specially if you travel first class  ;D  Have been wanting to do the Orient Express Venice-Simplon line ever since! Ipon-ipon muna.

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