In Love With A PSP??? Need your reaction badly...

[k_heart]

Oh, TS,you are so much older than us here. We ahould be getting advises from you and not the otehr way around. he!he!
I think at you're age, you're more  than old enough to distinguish love from lust. We should call you tito or kuya and the girl should call you Dad! how old are your kids? girls?boys?
Yes,i think younare lonely, looking for a comapanion. Ano napag uusapan nyong 2??? Do you want to play the hero to her? although, i don't think she's looking for one.
Mid-life crisis?
I'm just typing what i'm thinking at the moment.
You are the typical client of girls like her. Kaya nagta thrive ang mga kagaya nya.
You want to help her pero you are also using her. You must be man enough to be a good role model. Kaya hindi sya makikinig sa yo kasi ginagamit mo din sya.
Based from your posts,wala ka ding pinagkaiba sa iba nyang kliyente. Cash lang yung sa iba, sa yo naman ay ex-deal. Syempre,in any kind of business, cash is still the best.
You cannot change her as  of now. Mukhang mas masaya (based pa rin sa posts mo) sya talaga sa ginagawa nya. Easy money.

Dahil ba nawala na ang virginity,reason na para maging pokpok??? Naku,eh di overwhelming na sana ang dami ng pokpok sa Pinas.

Mukhang maganda ang intention mo, pero looking at a distance, parang kinasangkapan mo lang for free sex sa minor, she's a teener therefore still a minor kahit 18 na sya.

Paano ka nya makikitang savior nya at malinis ang intention, eh nakipag sex ka na nga ng ilang beses sa kanya.

Ano ba ang naka -attract sa yo sa kagaya nya? a sounding board na hindi sumasagot pabalik? Yung pagiging bata nya, given na yun na maatract yung mga nasa age mo.

So you are still legally married??? Inisip mo din ba ang effect nya sa mga kids mo? you should be thinking more of your kids than this girl.  or gather your thoughts, reflect. Use your brain and not the other brain.

puro girls ang kids namin and i will be very uncomfortable,make that very afraid, to be exposed sa guys like you.

Kasi based also sa posts mo, normal lang sa inyo ang maghire ng mga escort girls. Arghhhhh! bakit nagha hire ang group nyo ng mga escort girls? bakit parang normal  lang? I'm now speaking as a very bothered mommy.


Kasi walang sense yung gusto mo, hindi nag ja-jibe yung guso mong tumulong sa mga ginawa mo.
You want to girls like her to finish education pero hina hire nyo naman sila as escort girls? Nasaan ang logic?

Kaya hindi rin makita ng girl yung logic mo kasi opposite sa ginawa mo na at sinasabi mo bro eh.

She's really young but old to the ways of men. Hindi yan papatali. as of now, Wala akong nakikitang future sa inyong 2.

[k_heart]

^If your son introduced a girl ( and that girl for example is also a sex worker) and told you that he is going to marry her. Iaaccept mo ba? Yung honest answer as a parent.

[zee87]

Pasali nga.
Mas marami pong mas deserving ng tulong nyo sir.
Mas maraming bata ang gustong magtapos ng pag aaral.
Bakit mo naman ipipilit ang gusto mo sa taong di mo nga sigurado kung gusto ngang makatapos.

1st, stop having sex with her.
2nd, let her choose kung gusto nya mag aral or magPSP na lang. isa lang dapat.
3rd, if she decides to continue with her 'work' let her go.. find another one na mas deserving ng tulong mo at ng mga friends mo.

I know feeling mo nakakachallenge na maconvince siya na mag-aral na lang, pero sir, sayang naman ang panahon at pera. Kung gusto mo talagang makatulong, hanap ka na ng iba. Sa age nya ngayon, mukhang di mo siya macoconvince na magstop lalo na kung malaki ang kita nya jan.

[k_heart]

Actually kaya inopen ko ang thread na ito, akala ko yung isa sa relationship ay in love literally sa mga games sa PSP at halos 24 hours kadikit si PSP. Yung sobrang adik maglaro. Ibang PSP pala.

[k_heart]

Yes bro, i believe naman that  everyone can change. Pero yung change kasi is a commitment and pag wala yun sa puso nung may katawan,kahit anong push ng everyone around her or him, it will not happen. saka, merong mabilis, pero meron ding napakahirap iconvinced na magbago.

[mooncake and leaves]

I say run. Actually, I think both of you should run far, far away from each other. She's 18 and a hooker, for crying out loud. Your charity work or whatever you want to call it does not change the fact that this situation is effing nuts. Maybe you're having an early midlife crisis, I don't know but whatever it is, you don't invest on/marry/live with a midlife crisis. Sorry. I'd listen to k_heart too since she summed it all up.

[Shadow Angel]

@k_heart
Hahaha sis same tayo akala ko ako lang nag isip nun sabi ko pa nga while opening it sobrang immature naman ng ganun till nabasa ko meaning ng PSP naiisip ko sobrang huli na ba talaga ako sa trade ngaun iba na pala tawag sa mga escort parang ISP lang (internet service provider) service provider talaga hehe sabagay pag nag uusap siguro sila "pre pahiram naman ng psp mo  or pre maybago ako psp gusto mo bang hiramin" kaloka iba pala meaning sa kanila...

[crazycoolchic19]

Nakakarelate lang ako sa story mo TS not for me but for my 2nd cousin...sad to say shes a PSP,she met an old man online,and to my surprise i know the guy online in forum.close kami sa forum , close kami sa ym, we talked everyday.hes 60 yrs.old living in california, this old man sya nagkwento sakin may type syang girl and im so shock dahil 2nd cousin ko nga.they become close the old man fell in love, sending her money every month., tumigil si girl sa pag pi-psp, napakalaki binibigay ng old man for a month sa buong family pino provide nya,mother, bros, and for her baby.btw the girl is only 18,
At first sabi ni old man tinutulungan nya dahil naaawa sya, hearing the sad stories of my cousin breaks his heart at naniwala ako na meron syang malaking puso to this girl, gusto nyang baguhin , but as time goes by..nalaman ko na lang na sila na, umuwi ang old man sa Pinas, Nagalit ako sa old man dahil ayoko i tolerate ang ganyan, kahit hinde kami close ng cousin ko ayoko ma involve sya sa married man, sex kapalit ng pera para matigil sya sa pag PPSP , para ma provide nya needs ng mother nyang jobless, mga kapatid nyang jobless at para sa anak nya na tinakbuhan ng responsibilidad ng nakabuntis sa kanya. 

Naaawa sya pero ano ginagawa nya sa bata lalo lang nya nilulublob sa kasalanan, ang pagtulong dapat taos sa puso walang hinihiling kapalit, hinde nagnanasa.kung talagang he care for this girl dapat hinde easy money binibigay nya.,gusto nyang pag aralin si girl pero ayaw daw, the girl is happy go lucky.nakuntento sa pagpapadala ng pera para sa needs and wants ng buong pamilya nya.

Naaawa ako sa cousin ko dahil sa ganung tao sya napunta , naggagamitan lang sila...wala ako magagawa sa kanila, sinasabi ni old man hinde nakuntento sa kanya bukod sa kanya meron pang bf..at nung nagaway sila hinde sya nagpadala ng pera bumalik si girl sa pag pi-psp.


Ang bottom line dito,

Kung tutulong ka wala dapat kapalit.taos sa puso mo, malinis kunsensya mo.,una palang dapat alam mo san ka lulugar dahil kung mahina ka sa temptasyon bibigay ka! Pano makikinig sayo yung girl kung ikaw mismo ay nagnanasa, ginamit mo rin sya kapalit ng pagtulong., at pare pareho lang lang tingin sa inyo ng girl mga customer nya., siguro kung hinde ka nag take advantage sa kanya baka makinig pa sayo si girl, at magbago pa pananaw nya sa buhay nya, na meron palang mga kagaya mo  parin sa panahon na ito., baka thru you ma inspire pa sya.

Kung gusto mo talaga sya magbago, baguhin mo muna sarile mo, tanggalin mo masama mong motibo sa kanya.

[showermist]

TS, like what Zee87 said, a lot of people are more deserving of the help you and your partners are extending. If she really values you and your partners sending her to school (education) then itigil na niya yung pagpopokpok nya. Sorry, there's just no word to replace that.

Dumating din sa buhay ko (ng pamilya ko) ang naghirap kami ng husto but never did I nor my siblings resort to pagpopokpok. I strived hard for my family--nangutang ako sa mga kakilala at kamag anak ko para makapag abroad ako. So kung anuman ang meron ako ngayon, I value it because I worked really hard for what I have. Why am I telling you this? Para maimulat sa iyo na hindi naman pinapahalagahan ni Daisy (daisyotso) ang ginagawa nyo sa para sa kaniya. Mas importante para sa kanya ang quick money.

Run. Run fast away from her.

Ginawa mo syang misyon? Sus, paalisin mo sya sa bahay mo, pay na lang her rent if that will give you peace of mind.  Kung kaya mo, iwasan mo na asy atotally. At itigil mo na ang pakikipagsex sa kanya. Anong malay pala nun sa sex education eh katorse lang sya when she engaged in sex--baka kung ano pa ang maipasa nyang sakit sa iyo hehe.

Pag nalaman ng mga anak mo yan, they'll lose their respect sa iyo malamang. O mabawasan respeto nila sa iyo. Because I do kung ikaw ang tatay ko.

[candi]

Is it ok for you if your son will hire a psp as well? And pano nga if your son and that psp fell in love with each other, ok sayo? Or baka di mo alam may nangyayari na din pala sa kanila? Pano kung ma-inspire yung daughter mo to be a psp like her din? You should be thinking about the future of your kids before thinking about the future of others whether they deserve it or not. If you can't act like a mature man then please at least act like a responsible father.

And for your New Year's resolution, why not engage to some religious activities? I think you need spiritual guidance kuya.

[rich_loner]

Good day everyone...

Censya na, I noticed that some of you call me TS... ano yung TS?

Goin back...

I am not defending the PSPs but the only difference to some of the ladies in this world and even to some GTS is that they get paid for what they do. Some of us have had multiple partners, fubus and one night stands too before they settled down...

And I have this philosophy... di na baleng di nauna basta ako ang huli...

I also won a school debate before defending non virgins and prostitutes if they have the right to be loved... but that was in college...

I do not mind my son falling in love with a PSP... PSPs, I consider are just victims of circumstances... However, I would be concerned if my daughter thought about it...

Yes, I am going to stop the sex stuff... thanks to all of you...

But my question now is... if she stops... or I decide to discontinue her educational scholarship... what happens to the money that was "invested" on her?... Shall we impose the contract that we "ask" her to sign? Or is it gone with the wind?... 

[schumine]

IMO.

Everyone deserves a 2nd chance. Yes, shes at very young age when she start as PSP. Minsan tayong mga tao ang isip natin eh ganito:

1. Bakit kinailangan niya mag pokpok/PSP ang dami naman ibang trabaho diyan.
2. Hindi magandang impluwensya sa mga kabataan (esp. girls at their young age)
3. Kapag hirap sa buhay PSP/ or any easy money agad ang solusyon?
4. Hindi man lang ba tinuruan ng magulang ng tama.
5. Hindi maka diyos.
6. Walang pakialam ang importante eh kumita ng libo libong pera.
7. etc etc etc.

Yes, tama kayo na malamang "the girl is just using this good samaritan guy" gawain na niya yun e. How can we confirm that? Hindi naman natin alam kung ano ang nilalaman ng utak o puso ng bawat isa satin. Dahil ba sa klase ng trabaho niya?

Yes, tama kayo "the samaritan guy is helping this girl in exchange of sex" so, what do we expect? "lalake yan" at alam natin lahat ang lalake kapag ang palay na ang lumapit, tutukain na yan. Still, choice ng guy to sex the girl or not.

Madalas ang swerte ni Pedro hindi swerte ni Juan. Maaaring si girl, nahikayat na pumasok as PSP dahil ito na lang ang paraan na nakita niya.


oooopps.. I need to post this 1 muna.. to be continue.. aattend lang muna po ako conference meeting..


Have a nice day everyone!

[schumine]

Good day everyone...

Censya na, I noticed that some of you call me TS... ano yung TS?

I guess TS means Thread Starter

[Shadow Angel]

Tamaa ts means thread starter

[rich_loner]

I guess TS means Thread Starter

Thank you...

[freelancer_babe]

Interesting thread! Been following updates here.

TS = Thread starter/Topic starter.

You really do think and see things differently!

Ako naman, contrary to what some girls had said, I'd rather see the girl finish school no matter what.  Baka kasi dumating ang panahon na magustuhan ng girl na ayusin ang buhay nya sooner or later. The education she would get might help. As in "might"... there's no guarantee as she looks like she prefers to stay in the PSP profession for the present. Pero malay natin after na ng graduation ayawan na nya ang PSP work. But that's - "Malay lang natin". Pray for a miracle it will happen.

What I fear most is that, kung sakaling magdecide siya na magtagal sa PSP profession for many years, baka mabale-wala rin ang natapos nya. Ano ang sasagutin nya sa mga employers na inaapplyan nya for the huge gap of years - alangan namang sabihin nya na PSP ang work nya? Worse is, if employers are interested in hiring her tapos gagawa sila ng background investigation and finds out her past?

Kung yung ibang tao na "disente" sa opisina nakakasuhan ng immorality kapag nahuli sila then what more pa doon sa tulad nya na may successful sexual work history.

She's already "damaged" - at a tender young age pa. But I am not also saying na wala nang pag-asa sa girl because of a successful sexual career that she has started. I think you will need more help than what the girls here in GT would say. Have you considered getting a psychologist for the kid? You may have changed into a better man, but I think you will get to have a hard time convincing the girl to leave the dirty profession, especially na may nangyari sa inyo. Better leave that to professionals who can understand your situation. A huge change of mindset is needed.

[showermist]

But my question now is... if she stops... or I decide to discontinue her educational scholarship... what happens to the money that was "invested" on her?... Shall we impose the contract that we "ask" her to sign? Or is it gone with the wind?...

You can talk to her kung ano ang desisyon mo, ninyong sumusuporta sa kanya. You can continue supporting her pag aaral kung nakikita mo naman na nagpupursige sya. Pero ilimit mo yung years. Or kung bumagsak sa ilang subject, then stop. Even those nagbibigay ng scholarship may mga ganyang kondisyon.

Hmn, so what if it's gone with the wind? Did you really lose something? Nada. Sinuportahan mo sya in exchange also for sex.

I am not going to be hypocrite, I judge the PSP girl not because she's hirap, maagang namulat sa ganyang kalakaran--but of how she dealt  of that certain circumstance na dumaan sa kanya.

Everyone deserves a 2nd chance. Yes, shes at very young age when she start as PSP. Minsan tayong mga tao ang isip natin eh ganito:

1. Bakit kinailangan niya mag pokpok/PSP ang dami naman ibang trabaho diyan.
2. Hindi magandang impluwensya sa mga kabataan (esp. girls at their young age)
3. Kapag hirap sa buhay PSP/ or any easy money agad ang solusyon?
4. Hindi man lang ba tinuruan ng magulang ng tama.
5. Hindi maka diyos.
6. Walang pakialam ang importante eh kumita ng libo libong pera.
7. etc etc etc.

Yes, tama kayo na malamang "the girl is just using this good samaritan guy" gawain na niya yun e. How can we confirm that? Hindi naman natin alam kung ano ang nilalaman ng utak o puso ng bawat isa satin. Dahil ba sa klase ng trabaho niya?

Yes, tama kayo "the samaritan guy is helping this girl in exchange of sex" so, what do we expect? "lalake yan" at alam natin lahat ang lalake kapag ang palay na ang lumapit, tutukain na yan. Still, choice ng guy to sex the girl or not.

Madalas ang swerte ni Pedro hindi swerte ni Juan. Maaaring si girl, nahikayat na pumasok as PSP dahil ito na lang ang paraan na nakita niya.

But she was given a chance na baguhin ang buhay niya---TS and some of his business partners are supporting her, pero nagbago ba? Di ba patuloy pa rin nyang ginagawa? Does TS need to wait for PSP girl na mauntog ang ulo at totally baguhin nag buhay niya?

Kung ako lang, I am not going to waste money on her dahil mas marami pang mas deserving at mas magpupursige sa tulong na kaya kong ibigay.

[shalikah]

2. Kung mag stop siya... the sponsors have already spent a considerable amount of money for her... and some of them are my future business partners... and they have high hopes for her (by the way most of her sponsors are from abroad) for me it would mean that I cannot finish what I started... So it is tantamount to returning their investments... nakakahiya naman kung biglang tumigil ang scholar namin tapos parang kulang yung effort na ginawa ko... at may plano pa kami to have more scholars in the same plight...

Tryin' to sugarcoat things?!

Of course, as a sponsor it's normal to have high hopes for the kids na pinagaaral natin. I am a sponsor myself kaya alam ko how it feels. It's normal to be disappointed kung hindi sila makatapos or hindi maging successful yun pagsponsor natin sa kanila. But let's be realistic about it. Hindi lahat ng effort natin may reward. Hindi lahat ng gusto natin mangyayari. Sponsoring the kids is our choice, our decision. We know the risk yet we still push through it. The reason is simply because we just want to help. At the end of the day maging successful o hindi ang bata, we can say we help. That we did our part. It's not about the money we wasted as we did it in the hope to have something good out of the investment we made. It's not about world vision or YOU failing to finish what you've started. It's about the person we sponsor.

Sa totoo lang you start off on the wrong foot kaya ganun na lang kalaki ang takot mo to fail her sponsor. As schumine said, "the samaritan guy is helping this girl in exchange of sex". If ako yun sponsor nya sa abroad at nalaman ko ang pinaggagawa mo eh magagalit talaga ako at goodbye na sa pagiging future business partner natin.

Anyways, if I were you I'd be totally honest (oh well not totally honest) to the kid sponsors na she's not being on her best right now and you are giving her last chance to make things right. Give her another semester to prove her worth. Make sure you clarify it to the kid as well, that this is her last chance at magtino na siya. And PLEASE STOP DOING IT WITH HER.

This is the best solution I can think of as of now. It is fair to both party after all we as sponsor should be informed at decide for ourselves as well if we want to continue supporting her or not.

Another thing, worst comes to worst I can see your name na nakakaladkad sa eskandalo. Make sure to do the right thing from now on.

BTW,  http://news.yahoo.com/manila-slum-emerges-unlikely-ballerina-054810130.html
as the news said...

For Jamil Montebon, another Project Ballet's beneficiary, the scholarship was a life saver.
 
The troubled 18-year-old has left his broken family in a violent slum community not far from Aroma.
 
He became a ballet scholar at 13 but then dropped out of high school and ballet last year after a fight with his mother. During his time off from ballet and school, he collected garbage and worked in a junk shop. At night he would go drinking with other kids who often clashed with rival gangs, then sleep in a church where he got one free meal a week.
 
He was later accepted back into the program, which demands that children keep good grades and stay out of trouble. After shaping up, he moved into Ballet Manila's dormitory.

[quinone]

But my question now is... if she stops... or I decide to discontinue her educational scholarship... what happens to the money that was "invested" on her?... Shall we impose the contract that we "ask" her to sign? Or is it gone with the wind?...

lahat ng investments may risk. wag mo na i-impose yung contract na yan at baka imbes na ikaw hahabol sa kanya for breach of contract, e ikaw ang hahabulin ng Gabriela at DSWD.

sana wag ka magalit, i just want to be frank. obviously, you are not busy enough sa business mo. find decent investments/business opportunities elsewhere. at ang inii-sponsoran e yung mga tunay na gustong mag-aral at hopeful sa future nila.

her being your "investment" is one big SHAM! you took her in at nag-isip ka ng way to keep her with you masquerading it/her as an investment. alam mo kung bakit siya text ng text sayo before? kase parasites unconsciously know their hosts very well.

alam mo, yung mga babae na lumaki sa ganyan...ang hirap baguhin niyan. they do not see the value na meron sila, and given that lalung walang halaga sa kanya ang lahat ng efforts mo na yan. may friend ako may ex.GF na PSP (break na sila), akala ng friend ko mababago niya yung babae na yun. ang mga tao ang kaya lang nilang baguhin ay sarili nila, hindi ibang tao. you clearly want to save her/be her hero, katulad ng sabi ng isang poster.

buti sana kung iba na yung mindset ng GF mo, kaso hindi e naka PSP-mode siya, hindi student-with-a-bright-future mode.

you know, may mga naikukwento sa akin ang friends ko na they know of men na pumapatol sa mga PSP. i hate to say it, pero kapag pinag-uusapan namin it turns out na ang conclusion namin is low ang self-esteem ng mga lalaking ito.

huwag ka nang mag-intay ng ugly turning point sa buhay ninyong dalawa. stop being co-dependents of each other. ikaw binibigyan mo siya ng money, siya binibigyan ka niya ng self-esteem. PEACE!

[schumine]

Continuation of my last post.

TS, Don't stress yourself too much, but its always nice to lend a hand. Observe the girl, if you think you can't see any changes from her, maybe thats the time you decide. People aren't always what you want them to be. Sometimes they disappoint you or let you down, in your case you did your part you give her a chance to change for the better.Then its all up to her.

Yes, tama sila na maraming mas deserving. But thats your choice. Maybe, better din if you talk to her seriously, ano ba talaga gusto niya, maging PSP for life? If yes, then alam mo na what to do. If not at gusto niya mabago buhay niya, maging maayos, then set  the rules. And please 'no sex"