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marshie

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Re: Credit Card - Thread 3
« Reply #320 on: April 12, 2015, 11:20:47 am »
^sis, baka it's better to settle the dues to east west

Evolet027

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Re: Credit Card - Thread 3
« Reply #321 on: April 13, 2015, 11:59:49 am »
Yes maganda pag good payer, automatic sila nag iincrease ng CL and easy mag apply ng iwaive yung annual dues. I've been BPI and HSBC user for a long time already. I have the platinum cards. Pero both started na 10k lang credit limit ko but now malaki na.
On the side naman a friend kasi is asking me, she has dues with East West na hindi na nya nabayaran, now yung mga legal dept. are calling her. Sabi ko makipag settle, i just dont know how to help her. Meron ako nabasa before wag makipag settle daw sa mga law firm ba yun, it's better sa bank? Can you please advise kung ano best and how to do it. She's a mom of 4 and I really want to help her, i hope you guys could too!

Thanks in advance!

Hi sis Shyla, there is a thread for default CCs here. :) Refer mo friend mo dun, so she would know what to do. :) But for me, it's better to settle it with the bank itself. pag sa mga law firm, sigurado hindi na yung original na default amount nya sisingilin sa friend mo. I have officemates before na cc defaulter, and horrible mga pinagdaanan nila. The agents na naniningil sa kanila, marunong magpahiya. sorry, OT. but anyway, hanapin mo na lang sis yung thread na yun. :)

Evolet027

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Re: all about credit cards-thread 4
« Reply #322 on: April 13, 2015, 12:02:00 pm »
Na decline ako sa BDO and Eastwest. i establish ko na lang yung credit standing ko sa BPI, at maghintay na lang na ang mga banks na lang ang magkusa mag offer saken. hmp. :/

toffeenut

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Re: Credit Card - Thread 3
« Reply #323 on: April 13, 2015, 12:54:47 pm »
Hi! Question. I've just applied recently a secured credit card in BPI. It has a 40k limit. I would like to use it in holding reservation of hotels and flights. Magkakaron kaya ako ng monthly charges kahit hindi ko gamitin pang bayad [textspeak!] card? Pang hold lang talaga ng reservations ang main purpose ko at makapag build ng good credit history e.

Queen Chokolah

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Re: Credit Card - Thread 3
« Reply #324 on: April 13, 2015, 01:19:12 pm »
Re default CC, I don't know how it works with the banks here, pero AFAIK, kung hindi talaga nagbabayad sa bank kahit minimum, at ilang beses na din tinawagan ng collections department ng bank, ibebenta nila yun sa mga collection agencies (yun yata yung legal firm na sinasabi mo sis). Babayaran sila nung legal firm, of course less of maybe half lang ng outstanding balance, in turn, sila yung maniningil sa customer, at mas malaki na ang sisingilin nila. Kung successful sila sa paniningil sa delinquent user, kumita sila. then sa part naman ng bank, at least may na collect sila kahit papano. Talagang grabe maningil yung mga tao from those firms kasi kelangan nila makasingil talaga or else lugi sila. Magaling din sila mang harass and blackmail. I've heard horror stories with these firms. Kaya nga wag nyo hahayaan na mag default ang CC nyo.

I don't know kung ganyan din dito, pero kung ganyan nga, then wala ng magagawa si bank kasi nga nabenta na nila yung account mo to the collection agency. In short, parang wala ka ng account sa kanila. So hindi na sila ang makikipag usap sayo.

I may be wrong though, practice sa ibang bansa yang shinare ko. Maybe your friend can try speaking with the bank baka naman pwede sa kanila na lang ang payment arrangement.

Hi! Question. I've just applied recently a secured credit card in BPI. It has a 40k limit. I would like to use it in holding reservation of hotels and flights. Magkakaron kaya ako ng monthly charges kahit hindi ko gamitin pang bayad [textspeak!] card? Pang hold lang talaga ng reservations ang main purpose ko at makapag build ng good credit history e.

what do you mean monthly charges sis? wala namang kelangang bayaran sa card kung wala kang outstanding balance. Basta nabayaran mo in full and on time ang mga past dues mo and kung wala kang paggagamitan this month, zero din magiging bill mo. Ang binabayaran lang dyan is yung annual fee na usually annually, meaning once a year charge. In layman's term parang membership fee nung card. Meron din kasi ibang CC na ginagawang monthly ang annual fee like for example annual fee 1500. divided by 12=125. On your monthly bill may makikita ka 125 for the annual fee. Depende sa card mo kung pano ang bayad ng annual fee nila, pero mostly annually talaga.

Queen Chokolah

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Re: all about credit cards-thread 4
« Reply #325 on: April 13, 2015, 01:24:04 pm »

Eastwest is so careless. They sent me an email saying that there will be a delay in delivering my bill. But my total payable is xxxxx. So I paid that in full, actually sa 15 pa ang due pero binayaran ko na. Tapos, after I paid, naisipan kong i check yung online account ko. At nandun na ang bill. At mali ang binigay nilang amount! So nag overpaid ako ng xxxx amount. Sayang din kasi yun, pambayad pa sa ibang card yu . Nabadtrip ako. last month pa malapit na ang due date wala pa rin ang bill, kahit sa online puro error. Ano ba naman yan.


the EW card I was talking about here pala is not under my name :) Wala akong EW na ako ang principal cardholder

toffeenut

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Re: Credit Card - Thread 3
« Reply #326 on: April 13, 2015, 01:46:37 pm »
thank you sis! :) ano pala yung balance transfer and credit-to-cash? pwede ba gamitin pang bayad ng utility bills ang credit card para lang magkaron siya ng silbi sakin? hahaha! hindi naman kasi ako magastos. yun lang naisip ko na okay pag gamitan ng CC aside from groceries & pambayad ng phone plan. yung grocery ko hindi naman lumalagpas ng 2k..

what do you mean monthly charges sis? wala namang kelangang bayaran sa card kung wala kang outstanding balance. Basta nabayaran mo in full and on time ang mga past dues mo and kung wala kang paggagamitan this month, zero din magiging bill mo. Ang binabayaran lang dyan is yung annual fee na usually annually, meaning once a year charge. In layman's term parang membership fee nung card. Meron din kasi ibang CC na ginagawang monthly ang annual fee like for example annual fee 1500. divided by 12=125. On your monthly bill may makikita ka 125 for the annual fee. Depende sa card mo kung pano ang bayad ng annual fee nila, pero mostly annually talaga.

toffeenut

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Re: Credit Card - Thread 3
« Reply #327 on: April 13, 2015, 01:50:22 pm »
tuwing kelan ba naccharge yung 3.5% interest? per item ba ito or per transaction? for example bumili ako grocery worth 2k, pag dumating na yung bill ko, 2k + 3.5% = total bill?

or kapag after ko gamitin yung CC then binayaran ko agad yung amount due ko even if di pa dumadating billing statement ko, walang interest yun kapag ganun?

Queen Chokolah

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Re: Credit Card - Thread 3
« Reply #328 on: April 13, 2015, 02:39:46 pm »
thank you sis! :) ano pala yung balance transfer and credit-to-cash? pwede ba gamitin pang bayad ng utility bills ang credit card para lang magkaron siya ng silbi sakin? hahaha! hindi naman kasi ako magastos. yun lang naisip ko na okay pag gamitan ng CC aside from groceries & pambayad ng phone plan. yung grocery ko hindi naman lumalagpas ng 2k..

Depende sa bank sis. Pero on most cards, yes. Lahat ng utility bills ko (meralco, maynilad, skycable, pldt) naka register sa card ko. iba iba kasi due date at least tatawag lang ako to pay tapos isang due date na lang sila lahat. Meron naman cards na automatic credit na, meaning you don't have to call CS to pay. RCBC yung card ko for bills.

Balance Transfer is well, when you transfer your balance from other cards to a particular card. For example, may bill ka na 20,000 with RCBC. Eh emergency di mo sya kayang bayaran. Ngayon may BPI card ka, pwede mong i transfer yung 20,000 na bill mo sa BPI. BPI na magbabayad kay RCBC, tapos ikaw kay BPI ka na magbabayad nung 20k-on installment basis (3,6,9,12,24,or 36 months). May interest of course, pero minimal lang. So much better than hindi mo mabayaran yung 20k kay RCBC at mag interest ng mag interest. Mas mataas interest dun, and masisira pa credit record mo. Tapos may option ka pa to pay on installment. This is a great option, just be careful not to abuse it :) And by the way, in order na maka balance transfer ka, you have to have enough credit limit dun sa card kung san mo i transfer. sa example ko, dapat may 20k available CL ka with BPI. kasi dun nya kukunin yung balance transfer mo.

Iba iba ang terms at interest rates per bank pero balance transfer usually ranges below 1% per month lang. So compare that with 3.25% interest when you fail to pay the full amount plus other charges pa. Plus accumulating pa every month. Plus bad record. Ang mga alam kong banks na me balance transfer is BPI, EW, Citibank ata? RCBC used to have this pero nawala.

Additionally, pwede rin mag pa staggered payment. Sa BPI, sa balance transfer pa rin ang tawag so same rate. With EW, higher ang pa staggered. Example ulit tayo, ginamit mo si BPI for 20,000 sa item na hindi pwedeng i installment with merchant example plane ticket. Pero di mo kayang bayaran ng buo. Pwede mo sya ipa staggered with BPI so you can pay for it on installment. Again, may interest pero very minimal. pero you have to have enough CL ulit. Halimbawa, 40k CL mo. 20k pambayad ng plane ticket. Since may tira ka pa na 20k, pwede mo pa yun gamitin para mapa staggered mo. Parang dumoble bawas sa CL diba, hihiramin lang yun. Technically, hihiramin ni BPI yung natitirang CL mo, tapos babayaran nila kinabukasan yung bill mo, so may payment na 20k, babalik din sa CL mo yun.

Na try ko balance transfer with EW and BPI. mas mabilis si BPI 1 banking day lang ang processing. EW takes 5-7 banking days pero with EW, pwede over the phone. with bpi, kelangan punta ka talaga sa bank kasi isswipe yung card mo.

One tip on converting your big purchase to staggered:
Example cut off date mo is 16. So April 16.
Purchase the item on april 17. Since hindi na pumasok sa cut off the 16, wala pa sya sa bill. Mabi-bill sya on May 16 na. Due on June 5. So bago mag due, ipapa staggered mo sya. halimbawa 10k yung item. since pina staggered mo, di mo na sya kelangan bayaran sa due date na June 5. Tapos yung transaction na yun, papasok sa June 16 na bill, so ang first amortization nya, sa July 5 pa. dun pa lang mag start yung installment. So nag purchase ka ng item April 17 pero July 5 pa first payment. hehe parang nag BNPL ka lang :D Pero warning ko lang, don't do it often kasi baka ma abuse nyo at mag patong patong ang installment nyo.

masyado bang technical? sorry. I'm trying my best to make it simple. Favorite ko kasi ang feature na to ng card hahaha.

With credit to cash naman, BPI lang so far alam kong merong ganito. parang cash advance sya, only better kasi with cash advance diba you have to pay the whole amount agad on the next bill then may charge pa sya. With Credit to cash, pwede installment bayad. Me interest, but not as much as cash advance. Pero a little higher than balance transfer. Same concept with balance transfer, kelangan me available CL ka. So kung available CL mo is 50k you can have cash na 50k din. automatic approved yun basta kasya lang ang CL mo. Tapos choose ka na lang ng payment terms kung ilang months. (3,6,9,12,24,36 din). This is a much better option than personal loans. Kasi with personal loans, napaka laki ng interest, umaabot ng 3.50% per month. Sa credit to cash nasa .99% per month lang (depende sa terms). Kung me account ka sa BPI, kinabukasan ma c-credit na sa account mo yung cash. Kung wala naman, I think 10 days process pa and you have to get the check sa branches nila, parang 3 branches lang ata yung pede mong pagkuhanan ng check. so open ka na lang ng account.

pwede na ata ako maging sales person sa bpi. haha. sorry napahaba na carried away :D


Queen Chokolah

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Re: Credit Card - Thread 3
« Reply #329 on: April 13, 2015, 02:45:55 pm »
tuwing kelan ba naccharge yung 3.5% interest? per item ba ito or per transaction? for example bumili ako grocery worth 2k, pag dumating na yung bill ko, 2k + 3.5% = total bill?

or kapag after ko gamitin yung CC then binayaran ko agad yung amount due ko even if di pa dumadating billing statement ko, walang interest yun kapag ganun?

no sis. walang 3.25% interest on every swipe. Lugi tayo dun malaki din yun ah. hehe. kung magkano lang ginamit mo, yun lang babayaran mo. so kung gumamit ka ng 2k, 2k lang din babayaran mo. yung 3.25% interest na sinasabi mo, magkakaron lang nun KUNG hindi ka nagbayad in full and on time. So pag nagbayad ka in full tapos bago or on due date, wala kang charges.

Kahit hintayin mo yung bill mo sis. hehe alamin mo kung kelan cut off mo halimbawa cut off mo every 15th of the month. Ibig sabihin, gagawa na ng bill on the 15th. tapos ipapadala sayo ang bill. ang due date, around 20 days AFTER the bill date so kung 15 ang bill date, mga 5th of next month pa ang due date. Makikita mo naman sa bill ang exact due date nyan. basta bayaran mo lang lahat ng nasa bill mo bago mag due date, no need to worry sa charges. ano pala card mo sis? Kasi most cards ngayon may online bill na. Minsan kasi nale-late ng padala yang mga yan ng bill kaya minsan nami-miss ang due date nagkaka charge. pag sa online mga 1-2 days after bill date makikita mo na agad ang bill mo.

toffeenut

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Re: Credit Card - Thread 3
« Reply #330 on: April 13, 2015, 03:06:52 pm »
@Queen Chokolah you're such a heaven sent! super informative mo! THANK YOU.  :D

I applied for BPI Blue MasterCard. Eto ata yung pinaka-basic nila? Basta eto yung nakita ko na may pinaka-mababang annual fee dun sa options. At the same time, nasa BPI ang savings account ko. So mas madali magbayad ng CC.

Super anti-CC ako dati. Kasi ayoko ng nagkaka-utang at iwas temptation narin. Kaso minsan talaga kelangan siya e. Kaya napa-apply ako ng secured CC.

Another question, I have to call customer service pa in order to pay yung utility bills ko kung gagamitin ko yung CC? Hindi siya pwede pa-swipe sa Bills Payment section kapag magbabayad? Parang cash na iaabot dun sa cashier..

Tama ba intindi ko, as long as I pay in full & on-time, wala siya interest?
Example:
10k = utility bills
2k = grocery
5k = shoes
5k = bag

TOTAL AMOUNT DUE = 22k. I have to settle this amount before due date para walang interest?

Queen Chokolah

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Re: Credit Card - Thread 3
« Reply #331 on: April 13, 2015, 05:17:54 pm »
I am not sure with BPI sis. Sa RCBC kasi ang utilities ko and with RCBC, you have to call CS to pay. Okay naman sakin at least isang tawag lang bayad na bill ko no need to go somewhere and make pila. haha. Alam ko on some credit cards, automatic credit na, meaning di mo na kelangan mag call, automatic na nila babayaran then charge na lang sa card mo. Pero I don't like that arrangement kasi minsan we have disputes sa bill diba. kung auto credit, kahit me dispute ka baka mabayaran nila ng buo. You can call BPI to inquire sa bills payment nila. I swear, very convenient. I don't like waiting in lines kasi to pay bills. Pero note that BPI's hotline sobra maka queue siguro usually 10-20 mins bago me makausap ka na agent. Please ask the agent what is the best way to pay the bills via credit card. Baka may way naman na di mo na need mag call every time magbabayad ka.

On swiping the card on payment centers, I don't know. Pero ang alam ko depende pa sa merchant yun. PLDT alam ko they accept cards as payment pero sa mismong branch nila dapat.

@Queen Chokolah you're such a heaven sent! super informative mo! THANK YOU.  :D

Tama ba intindi ko, as long as I pay in full & on-time, wala siya interest?
Example:
10k = utility bills
2k = grocery
5k = shoes
5k = bag

TOTAL AMOUNT DUE = 22k. I have to settle this amount before due date para walang interest?

you're welcome. And yes, tama pagkakaintindi mo. Just always pay in full and on time. annual fee lang kelangan mo bayaran (pwede pa nga ipa waive yun).

sis just to clarify pala, your card right now is a secured card? yung may security deposit? Di ko sure kung kasama sya sa eligible for balance transfer and credit to cash pero as per the terms naman:

1. Existing BPI Express Credit cardholders (Classic, Blue MasterCard, Gold MasterCard, Petron-BPI MasterCard, BPI WorldPerks MasterCard, BPI SkyMiles MasterCard, BPI SkyMiles Platinum MasterCard, Edge MasterCard, BPI Amore Visa, and BPI Amore Visa Platinum) and BPI Family Credit cardholders of good credit standing are qualified to avail of BPI Express Balance Transfer (“Loan”) for a minimum loan amount of P3,000.

nixmusic

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Re: all about credit cards-thread 4
« Reply #332 on: April 13, 2015, 06:24:22 pm »
Love ko na ang BPI card ko! Sobrang useful lalo na pag needed for emergency purposes and hindi naman pala sobra ang laki ng interest sa credit to cash. Napaka gaan bayaran.

mxherr5

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Re: Credit Card - Thread 3
« Reply #333 on: April 13, 2015, 07:25:03 pm »
Unionbank offered me a new card, Platinum Mastercard. I've been using this for a few months na din. Okay siya for me kasi mabilis tumawag sa Customer Service if I have concerns. May dedicated line sila para sa Platinum card holders. Tapos for life waived ang annual fee. Di ka na kailangang makipabargain every year para iwaive ang annual fee. At okay din ang reward system. Usually ang alam ko na no annual fee, walang rewards system. Pero etong Unionbank Platinum card, nagcompute ako sa rewards na naearn ko 1.99%++ so almost 2%. Peso value na yun ha. Unlike example sa Citibank, reward points yun hindi pa peso value. Pag nagconvert ka into Pesos nun mababa lang talaga. Though mababa pa initial credit limit ko sa Platinum, plan ko later on pag lumaki na credit line ko isa siya sa ireretain ko na cards.


If I remember correctly that was a promo rate..

You earn 1.5% as per http://www.unionbankph.com/personal/credit-cards/cards/177-cash-back/389-unionbank-platinum-mastercard

Unless I'm missing something.

And you should use Citi's CashBack card for comparison
not its Rewards card.

I earn around 2% from Citi's CashBack.(6% for groceries
and a smaller bonus for all others)

Evolet027

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Re: all about credit cards-thread 4
« Reply #334 on: April 13, 2015, 07:43:55 pm »
BPI skymiles is my only CC, so I have no choice but to love it. hahaha! and I love it too. :)

toffeenut

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Re: Credit Card - Thread 3
« Reply #335 on: April 13, 2015, 08:06:43 pm »
sis just to clarify pala, your card right now is a secured card? yung may security deposit? Di ko sure kung kasama sya sa eligible for balance transfer and credit to cash pero as per the terms naman:

1. Existing BPI Express Credit cardholders (Classic, Blue MasterCard, Gold MasterCard, Petron-BPI MasterCard, BPI WorldPerks MasterCard, BPI SkyMiles MasterCard, BPI SkyMiles Platinum MasterCard, Edge MasterCard, BPI Amore Visa, and BPI Amore Visa Platinum) and BPI Family Credit cardholders of good credit standing are qualified to avail of BPI Express Balance Transfer (“Loan”) for a minimum loan amount of P3,000.

Yes sis. That's what I have. I think eligible naman kahit secured CC yung akin for balance transfer and credit-to-cash since and difference lang naman between secured and regular CC is may holdout deposit ako. Everything else function the same I think.

I have another question pala. For example I want to buy an item worth 20k. Tapos may option to pay 3, 6, or 12 months dba? Kunwari I chose 3 months. So 2k divided by 3 months = 6,666.67 monthly. Etong 6k plus na 3 months kong babayaran, may kasama ba etong interest?

May nababasa lang kasi ako na deals na 0% interest payable 3,6,or 12 months e..

chicafabulosa

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Re: Credit Card - Thread 3
« Reply #336 on: April 13, 2015, 08:34:46 pm »
Yes sis. That's what I have. I think eligible naman kahit secured CC yung akin for balance transfer and credit-to-cash since and difference lang naman between secured and regular CC is may holdout deposit ako. Everything else function the same I think.

I have another question pala. For example I want to buy an item worth 20k. Tapos may option to pay 3, 6, or 12 months dba? Kunwari I chose 3 months. So 2k divided by 3 months = 6,666.67 monthly. Etong 6k plus na 3 months kong babayaran, may kasama ba etong interest?

May nababasa lang kasi ako na deals na 0% interest payable 3,6,or 12 months e..

As long as its 0% interest walang additional amount sa total value of what you bought. And yes tama computation mo, divide the total amount to how many months you want it to be 0%

msals2007

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Re: Credit Card - Thread 3
« Reply #337 on: April 14, 2015, 07:45:35 am »

If I remember correctly that was a promo rate..

You earn 1.5% as per http://www.unionbankph.com/personal/credit-cards/cards/177-cash-back/389-unionbank-platinum-mastercard

Unless I'm missing something.

And you should use Citi's CashBack card for comparison
not its Rewards card.

I earn around 2% from Citi's CashBack.(6% for groceries
and a smaller bonus for all others)

Yes oo nga pala dapat nga sa Citibank cashback card ko icompare but since I don't have one, I just compared it with my Citibank rewards card. If you earn 6% cash back for groceries that's way better nga. But for non-supermarket 0.2% lang ang rebate tama ba? And they have an annual fee na P2800. Though waived na ata if annual spending reaches P180,000. Di naman ako umaabot ng P180k a year kasi nagtitipid din ako and if mga small amount lang mas prefer ko cash na lang para di maipon ang payables.

Sa Unionbank Platinum card di ba lifetime no annual fee. You don't have to call them every year para makiusap for the waiver of the fees. Last billing cycle my total purchase reached 20,990 and earned P418 cash back, tama ba 1.99% di ba? Hotel and plane ticket ang pinagamitan ko.

Sa Metrobank they have an M card na wala ding annual fee pero ang alam ko wala namang rewards system. Sayang din kasi if you're a frequent user, nag accumulate din yung points which you can later use to pay for your purchases.
« Last Edit: April 14, 2015, 10:13:48 am by msals2007 »

mxherr5

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Re: Credit Card - Thread 3
« Reply #338 on: April 14, 2015, 10:42:06 am »
^
That's right and based on my grocery spending
I earn around 2% cash back.

Fortunately, I got in when they had a free for life
annual fee promo  :D

Well, looks like you're going to get less now.
It's just 1.5% now.

Queen Chokolah

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Re: Credit Card - Thread 3
« Reply #339 on: April 14, 2015, 10:55:39 am »

I have another question pala. For example I want to buy an item worth 20k. Tapos may option to pay 3, 6, or 12 months dba? Kunwari I chose 3 months. So 2k divided by 3 months = 6,666.67 monthly. Etong 6k plus na 3 months kong babayaran, may kasama ba etong interest?

May nababasa lang kasi ako na deals na 0% interest payable 3,6,or 12 months e..

this was answered, but yes, kung sinabi nilang 0%, ganun lang computation. Pero some stores offer installment pero me interest pala. hehe. pero fix naman lagi ang babayaran mo per month. Kung ano lalabas dun na monthly amortization sa transaction receipt mo yun lang yun.

 

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