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ako rin sis. i use water lang kasi many people said it works well with water alone. problem ko rin yung application... nagsasmudge and doesn't last that long. feeling ko may mali akong ginagawa sa pagtitightline. ayoko rin kasi ng eyeliner na parang harsh na may guhit talaga... unlike tightlining mukhang inborn na makapal yung lashes mo i think sis we have to find the right consistency so that it won't smudge. experiment lang siguro how much water etc... i use it with the flat brush and brushes work wonders talaga