K+12 implementation

[rianne_mallows]

on the contrary, kung hindi tayo magcocomplain, hindi kikilos ang government. ganun talaga kasi de pukpok sila eh.

granted, ok lang na maging magulo sa umpisa like sa adjustments etc. kaso mukang pinabayaan na eh. basta naipasa/implement na yung k-12 pinasa na sa schools itself yung problema ng curriculum.
ang siste na ngayon, kanya kanyang school magtatrial and error.

[thebratinella]

i hope ayusin muna ang bigger problems ng public schools. nakakaawa makita yung news reports about schools na kulang sa classrooms, sira-sira or kulang sa chairs, books at supplies. meron pa pag rainy season, pinapasok ng water yung room. kawawa din ang mahihirap. hirap na nga ang parents na gawan ng paraan para makatapos yung kids nila sa current curriculum. what more if may additional years? ang hirap pa if you have more than 2 kids.  sa mahal ng bilihin at liit ng suweldo, lucky na ibang families to even eat 3 decent meals a day tapos ito pa dagdag sa problema nila. sa private schools suwerte na if they offer quality education tapos ang tuition 30k-40k. nowadays, yung mga magagandang schools 50k-60k ang tuition kahit pre-school pa lang. good luck sa parents. butas talaga ang bulsa. kaya okay muna ako sa 1 anak unless manalo ako sa lotto jackpot. 

[cherry*coke]

Pano nalang yun mga students na siksikan sa classroom? Kulang kulang sa libro and other necessary stuff. They will just prolong the agony of those students. Baka marami lang lalo tumigil sa pag aaral. Imbes na high school grad ang educational attainment ng karamihan. Magiging elementary graduate nalang. Ang government natin. Mahilig sa mga pakulo na wala mashadong mawawala sa kanila. Like this one. Ok dagdagan ang school years then bahala na kayo. Edi walang nawala sa mga pondo nila. Yes this is a good idea kasi ganito ang system sa mga rich country. Pero rich ba tayo? Mga ambisyoso nakakainis. Sana ayusin muna yun mga problema na mas nangangailangan ng attention. Hindi yun magdadagdag ng bagong iisipin. Edi lalong natabunan yun mga dapat talagang problemahin.

[FOURever]

Ang nakakasakit kasi ng loob dito ay yung biglaan. Nalaman ko na lang bigla ito na ipapatupad na, AGAD AGAD. Kulang sa planning. Pwede naman next year or after two years basta ba planado lahat eh. Ni wala pang curriculum/lesson plan yung mga teacher. Baka nga di pa sila naseseminar eh. Yun lang naman nakakalungkot though di pa ako apektado ng ganitong issue, nakakasakit na rin ng loob (nasabayan pa ng impeachment trial issue ang issue na ito diba)

[cherrhys]

I agree with most of the posts here.  Ang complaints naman are mostly about the logic behind the implementation and the way it's going to be implemented.  Honestly, it doesn't matter even if they add 5 more years pa sa school levels, for as long as they don't improve the facilities, quality and even add teachers, walang mangyayari.  Mahirap na we keep on wanting to follow other countries, pero yung mga dapat maimprove yun ang di ginagawa.  Imagine having 3 shifts elementary and high school classes!  Add those without class rooms pa, studying all together in the school quadrangle or under the trees!  Tapos ginawang k-12??  Ano yun?!  Adding levels is definitely not the solution for our students to be more competitive, its in the quality. 

For me in the end, dagdag kurakot na naman yan.  Kawawa naman yung mga public school students, their parents, pati na rin yung mga teachers.

[leletmd]

I think they should focus more on improving the quality of education rather than increasing the number of years.
I hope that the increase in the number of years will not result in burn out.
Paano na yung mga may balak mag Law or Medicine? Sobrang haba na ng length of time needed for study.
For medicine, 4 years of pre - med plus 5 years of med school (including internship na) plus 3 to 5 years of specialization plus  1 to 2 years of sub-specialization. Kawawa naman ang parents and students.
In my opinion, they should have made further studies and consultations with parents, added more classrooms and teachers before they decided to implement this. Hindi yung 1 year notice lang, implement na agad.

[sima]

Ang gagaling kasi ng mga nakaupo ngayon eh -- visionaries DAW.  Siguro nga, mas maraming taon ang ginugol nila sa iskul kaya ayan, "BRIGHT" idea nila.

[chaipix]

Dito naman sa visayas, implemented na rin but ang ginawa ng mga schools including private schools, they deloaded some subjects para ma stretch nila up to grade 7. So may mga days na half day nalang ang mga grades 1-3. Buti sana if ang tuition binawasan, eh ganun pa rin. Others pa nga nag increase na naman. IMO, baka lalo tuloy maging bobo mga bata kasi masyadong nang relax and konti ang subjects. Dapat kasi quality of education and inaayos ng government, hindi length or number of years in school.

[cheskacruz]

Lalo ako nainis to the max nung nakita ko sa news kaninang umaga, may mga students na grade 11, nasa labas ng school at dun nagkklase. Kawawa naman. Nakaupo sila sa ground. Ano ba naman???!!!

Marami na rin teachers ang nagrereklamo. Kulang sila, there are some professors na nagvolunteer na lang din turuan ang mga students dahil kulang ang teachers.

[honey_iya]

May chance pa kaya na bawiin 'yang K+12 na 'yan? Kairita!

[Dacian]

nagsimula na pala.  haay, sad.   

[cherrhys]

Found this on the web: http://www.deped.gov.ph/cpanel/uploads/issuanceImg/K12new.pdf

It's an enlightening read.  Let's be more open about this program.

I've read it.  It all sounds so ideal and promising...in paper.  But just watching all the news last Monday night regarding the first day of school, glaringly shows why we are not yet ready for this program.  Aminin man natin o hinde, nandyan na naman tayo sa pagiging gaya-gaya sa ibang bansa, hindi natin naisip if kaya na ba natin ito.  I mean, just look at the sorry state of some of the public schools here, the usual annual problems of lack of teachers, no classrooms, dilapidated schools, etc.  I mean pano nila masasabi na:
Achieve high academic standards, especially in Mathematics, Science,
and English at all levels
• Produce graduates who are globally competitive and whose credentials
are recognized internationally
Ano ito gagawin nila while the students are studying under a mango tree or with flood water around their feet?  Personally, kaya ko lang naman hindi gusto itong k+12 program is because nanghihinayang ako sa perang ilalaan nila para dito.  Perang sana eh nagamit na lang sa pagayos ng current state ng public school system natin.  Or to built more schools, imagine some walking for 3 hours just to attend school.  Talagang walang papasok niyan kapag ganun.  Aside from that, they are also claiming that one of the goals is the decongestion of the school system.  Really?  Adding more years will do that?  Hindi ba adding more classrooms and teachers?  Sa sobrang kulang nga some schools have 4-shifts!!  Imagine kindergarten kids starting their classes at 6am!!

6 Further, most graduates are too young to enter the labor force. This implies that those who do not pursue higher education would be unproductive or be vulnerable to exploitative labor practices.  Those who may be interested to set up business cannot legally enter into contracts.  In short, patatandain lang nila yung mga students para paggraduate ng high school pwede ng magwork.  Hindi lang pala illogical goals nila, they are also encouraging people not pursue higher education.  In reality, konti lang ang mapapasok mong trabaho kapag high school graduate ka lang.  Kahit pa under K+12 program, kasi technical skills lang naman idagdag nila, in other words vocational courses. 

For me, prioritize muna the current quality of education here.  Don't be too ambitious, mas marami pang pressing problems ang school system natin kesa ang pagimplement the dagdag na taon.

[sima]

May chance pa kaya na bawiin 'yang K+12 na 'yan? Kairita!

DepEd wants it to be passed as a law and according to DepEd eh malaki ang chance na pumasa ito.  Pero sana kahit implemented na ito eh bawiin nila. Kung bawiin nila....  yung mga dapat grumaduate ngayong taon na ito eh hindi na mag-grade 7 at yung mga nag-grade 7 this year (sa mga schools na wala naman talagang Gr. 7) eh second year na dapat pagpasok.

Dito naman sa visayas, implemented na rin but ang ginawa ng mga schools including private schools, they deloaded some subjects para ma stretch nila up to grade 7. So may mga days na half day nalang ang mga grades 1-3. Buti sana if ang tuition binawasan, eh ganun pa rin. Others pa nga nag increase na naman. IMO, baka lalo tuloy maging bobo mga bata kasi masyadong nang relax and konti ang subjects. Dapat kasi quality of education and inaayos ng government, hindi length or number of years in school.

Eh wala naman palang pinagkaiba eh!  Binawasan lang nila yung load ng mga students para lang masabing umabot ng 12 years or para lang masabing meron na rin silang curriculum na grade 7.   KAT@ANGAHAN+12 program talaga!

Lahat ng concerned parties (teachers, parents, students) hirap sa implementation ng K+12 na ito.  Ang titiba lang ng sobra-sobra eh yung mga schools kasi added income na naman iyon.

[candyzire]

nakaka-asar talaga itong k+12.. gustong implement agad, parang ganun kadali mag labas ng pera at mag sayang ng oras kung sakaling trial & error lang itong gagawin nila.

ang dali nila mag labas ng P87.1M pondo para sa UK at U.S. trips ni P-Noy. pero yung budget sa education, hinihigpitan ng sinturon. abnoy talaga yang si P-noy

[crazylove]

^ dagdag pasakit na naman to sa mga magulang, tapos every year pa tumataas ang mga tuition, pano kung hindi na pala kaya ng magulang na paaralin ang mga anak nila? tsktsk!
     bakit tayo gagaya sa ibang bansa, eh mayayamang bansa yun kaya nilang ponduhan kahit magkano dahil wala silang mapaglagyan ng mga pera nila..eh tayo mahirap lang bansa natin, ni hindi nga makumpleto mga guro, rooms, ect..ni hindi pa pala alam kung [textspeak!] mga ituturo sa grade7..haaayyy..

[sarahsensible]

I heard moms na excited kasi accelerated ang anak nila LOL but Assumption College will stick kung ano ang supposedly na level ng bat and just adjust the curriculum

[simple_elegance]

If private has existing grade 7, no added years. Counting the 3years of PS, 7 yrs of GS & 4 yrs of HS it meets already the required # of years under the k12 program.

Pre-school is not counted in the 12 years. Thats why its called K plus 12, Kinder plus 12 years of education. 6 years in Grade School, 4 years of junior high and 2 years of senior high.

[simple_elegance]

I heard moms na excited kasi accelerated ang anak nila LOL but Assumption College will stick kung ano ang supposedly na level ng bat and just adjust the curriculum

Whats that all about nga sis? My SIL's daughter is grade 1 DLSZ where there is grade 7. According daw to their orientation, come next year grade 3 na daw yung daughter niya because according to DEPED daw grade 1 is 6y.o, grade 2 is 7y.o, grade 3 is 8y.o and so on and so forth, eh her daughter is 8y.o na next year kaya grade 3 na daw. Hindi ba magkukulang ng years of GS yung mga bata? Shouldn't acceleration be based on the childs intellectual, psychological and emotional maturity and not just age? Hope someone can enlighten me on this. TIA!

[hunny_ally]

^Yes I know what the k12 program means. What I'm trying to say is if a school offers grade 7 curriculum before the implementation, walang added years. Yan naman kasi ang bottomline concern ng most parents cause that means dagdag gastos. But yung nga if the school offers grade 7 in the old setup, technically walang added years since these schools won't add years but merely make level adjustments

In the old setup, in terms of the total # of years of schooling a typical private school student who goes to a school that offers grade 7 already meets the total number of years the k-12 program requires. Sobra Sobra pa nga since these schools before requires a student goes through 3 yrs of pre school. That's why I said 3years PS, 7 years GS and 4 years HS. That's 14 years compared to the k12's 13 years. I think this is what Usec. Umali also said in the video link I shared in the few pages back.

This is the same reason why schools that already offer grade 7 previously, walang added years. Only changes level names. Like for my daughter's school, the prep level was changed to grade 1.

[hunny_ally]

For private schools with grade 7, i think the proper term should be "label changes". Akala ng ibang parents what's happening is acceleration. wala ding curriculum adjustment.

Like in my daughter's case, the curriculum for prep, as it is even before k-12 program, is pang grade 1 na if you compare to the lessons of a grade 1 public school student. This year, they are Changing the level name of prep to grade 1. Same lessons pa din. If ever may changes, minimal Lang most likely. Major change is instead of wearing the typical preschooler scrub suits, they'll wear a grade schooler's uniform.

Ganito din ang nangyari with AC. Level name change lang