Ok. You asked why I got with that idea, so I explained my side. I'm not here to convince you not to support having divorce.
If you are going to quote the Bible then refer to it in proper context and properly. Divorce was prohibited for exactly the same reason, WOMEN WERE BEING ABUSED. During the Old Testament, men can divorce their wives just for any reason. If you apply it in the modern times, you burn my toast and you will be divorced. In Deuteronomy 24:1-2, divorce was allowed and even re-marriage.
Yeah, context you mean? If I was going to use that context, then I would have as well advocate stoning to death those who were found guilty of adultery? But anyway, that was the Old testament. It is not what I am talking when I raise my point. If we really want context, God really hates divorce. It is because of the people's hardness of heart that he just wrote that commandment. But then, within the new testament context He allowed it, but adultery lang ang maaaring reason ng divorce. But looking futher, from the beginning of creation it was not made to have that.
and even re-marriage. Second, so okay lang ang live in pero di pwede divorce? And you are quoting the Bible? Your logic is flawed, in my opinio
Following my answer above, it says that "Whoever divorces his wife and marries another commits adultery against her", and vice versa. The reason I said that if ever they allowed divorce, it is not an entitlement to re-marry. Ang sa akin lang naman for that logic, if you divorce someone, then you re-marry, but considered as adultery. So what is the difference? Eh di mag commit ka na lang ng adultery wag ka na magkasal. Same result lang naman? Di ba mas practical yun?
Third, even God divorced Israel. In Paul's letters in the New Testament he even said that although it's better to be single, the unmarried (those who got divorced) to get married than to be overwhelmed with desire. If you really read everything that pertains to divorce, iba-iba ang mababasa mo dyan. There are times I was thinking contradicting naman until I understand that God deals with this issue on an individual basis.
God was forced to divorce israel because israel commited apostasy which is considered as spiritual adultery. And speaking of Paul's letters in the New testament, yes he is pertaining to the "unmarried" and "widows". And no, he is not referring to the unmarried as those who got divorced. It is clearly not indicated. And the word unmarried is never synonymous to the word "divorced".
Yes I agree with you madaming contradictions sa scriptures. Sad thing that we only look and apply what is only fitting to our situation.
What? The issue of LGBT is totally different from divorce. The LGBT is asking for equality. Divorce is for those who are victims of abuse. And you don't deal with the problem by making another law. I
Sad to tell you but it is not that different. It is like changing the definition to cater their needs and situation. Wala lang, naisip ko lang, sa huling part ng ceremony, tatawagin na silang husband and wife. Kapag LGBT, ano na? Anyway, kidding aside, kaya nga if gusto talaga nila yung marriage, eh wag sila magpakasal sa church. Or create their own religion na allowed yung marriage nila. If not, eh di yun nga create a law or something constitutional. Same with divorce, if the church does not allow that, bakit di na lang sila magpalit ng religion? and alisin na lang yung words na Til death do us part. Saka yung for bettter or for worse.
Does it affect the sacredness of YOUR marriage if other people get divorce? I doubt it. You are more concerned about image. Masisira ang image ng mga perpekto just because there is a woman here who got married to a jerk that abandoned his responsibilities and did not follow the other half of his covenant to his wife.
Yes it does. Kasi marriage is a picture of how Christ loves the church. It is not about just the people who got married. It is more about the church.
Pero naisip ko nga. Kung separation of the state and the church ang usapan, pwede pala talagang magkaroon ng divorce ayon sa constitutional definition ng marriage. Pero yun nga lang, don't expect na tatanggapin ito ng simbahan. Medyo iba kasi ang definition talaga nila. Siguro para magabot na lang sa compromise, magkaroon ng divorce law, pero it only applies sa mga taong hindi kinasal sa simbahan.
I suggest you study divorce cases bago kasi magsalita. Divorce IS NOT and WILL NOT make it easy to leave. It actually makes the husbands (because in the Philippines, the wives are the usual victims of abuse) think twice before leaving the wives. Once there is a divorce law, it will become mandatory for wives to receive alimony and child support. Magbasa ka na lang dito sa GT, ang mga babae ang nagtitiis sa pambababae at pangbubugbog ng asawa sa Pilipinas because there's no law that protects them.
Don't get me wrong. Gustong gusto ko ma prosecute at maparusahan ang mga irresponsible na tao. I advocate na we are all responsible of the consequences of our action. Gustong gusto ko maubos na silang manloloko at G@go sa mundo. Ayoko rin nung sight na yung mga lalakeng nangiwan sila pa yung nakukuhang mag happy go lucky pero yung wife nilang iniwan is nag suffer. But I don't think divorce din ang makaka resolve for that.