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three8one

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Re: Latest Showbiz Update (thread 67)
« Reply #340 on: July 25, 2020, 01:38:39 pm »
Sana may magaling na CPA dito or auditor para they can explain kahit in a simplest way na maiintindihan ng nakararami kung paano nasabi na sa BIR wala talaga nilabag na pagbabayad ng tax ang abs cbn pero sa point of view ng govt eh meron talaga nilabag.. May friend is a CPA and pinaliwanag nya na sakin kung paano naikutan ng mga accountant ng abs cbn yung pagbabayad ng karampatang tax para sa kanila. Siyempre ayaw ko masabihan ng peyk news, haha! 😁 kaya nagtatanong tanong pa muna ko paano nasabi walang nalabag pagdating sa pagbabayad ng tax ang abs cbn...

rondashie

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Re: Latest Showbiz Update (thread 67)
« Reply #341 on: July 25, 2020, 05:06:24 pm »
I'm a CPA who previously worked for a long time in one of the Big 4s. My two cents.

Tax avoidance vs. tax evasion. What ABS did was tax avoidance which is PERFECTLY LEGAL. These are schemes to "minimize" tax payments by utilizing what is already there, i.e. directing to non profits, donations, CSR etc which can be claimed as tax deductions and credits. 

Almost all companies do this around the world. My current company puts up holding companies in jerseys as tax havens. Yung office namin ngayon, located sa PEZA location which means we get to enjoy tax holidays up to 5 years and preferential tax rates which is a lot lower compared to the regular corporation tax rate. Yung Big Dipper ng ABS, PEZA registered po. Masalimuot po itong usapin.

On a personal level para makarelate kayo, dati pwede mong i-claim ang purchase of computers and textbooks for you to offset from your total tax payable. Pinapababa mo ang babayaran mo through legal means. You would also be surprised that the company that you're working for are doing tax avoidance schemes. Like I said, almost all companies do this because it is a common practice that is legal. For non-finance people, the mere term "avoidance" sounds illegal. It is not.

Tax evasion, on the other hand, is deliberate and illegal. Ito ang bawal.

Now companies employ services of tax advisors for advise on how to minimize tax liabilities, hence tax avoidance schemes. Hindi kasalanan ng ABS na magagaling ang mga tax advisors nila at napababa ang tax payments. You can't compare it to GMA. Andaming subsidiaries under ABS para maallocate at mabawasan ang tax payments nila.

Also, BIR na nga nagsabi na walang tax liabilities diba? I mean they are the highest tax authorities here? Kung sila na nagsabi na walang tax liabilities, ipipilit pa ba? E wala namang napakita yung apat na kongresista sa claims nila except comparisons to GMA tax lol. Pati nga SEC na kaakibat ng BIR, they cleared ABS name. Also, kung may pagkukulang nga sa tax, bakit walang kaso?

Simpleng google lang naman ang tax avoidance in layman's terms na madaling maintindihan.

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Sorry sa off topic. I just couldn't let this tax issue fake news pass here. This tax issue is such a cheap move na madaling gawing script kasi hindi naiintindihan ng regular na tao na walang background sa tax/finance.

liana

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Re: Re: Latest Showbiz Update (thread 67)
« Reply #342 on: July 25, 2020, 05:43:11 pm »
^ Thank you for clearing that up sis and explaining it to us.

It's exhausting how some people kept on insisting that tax issue.

Yun na yung umpisa ng discussion dito. Top regulating agencies na ang nagsabi wala lahat violations but some just kept on pushing articles from fake news mongers. Mga sis kahit nga legit newspapers ngayon naglalabas na ng fake news, ang daming budget!!! Then pag wala ng ibabato sasabihin franchise is a privilege not a right. So kung ayaw ng congress di pwede bigyan kahit pa established na ang company for decades. Don't you think that's so screwed up? Do you really trust our representatives that much?

Don't rely on articles. Please watch the entire hearing and see for yourself on what happened. Getting clips and bits of news from articles are not enough. Read the TWG report and decide if the congress did the right thing.
« Last Edit: July 25, 2020, 08:27:29 pm by liana »

rondashie

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Re: Latest Showbiz Update (thread 67)
« Reply #343 on: July 25, 2020, 05:54:05 pm »
^Like you, I'm really tired of this cheap shots. But well, it's all over now and they can salvage of what's left.

I hope we can all be discerning sa mga nababasa natin. Hindi ko na sinabing "common sense" kasi baka someone would take offense. Just proper discernment.

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So sino sino na ang mga artistang assured na lilipat sa GMA or TV5? I just know Pokwang ang Ria Atayde. The big stars are turning into Youtube as vloggers. Vice Ganda will have her own network.

May nabasa akong nakakatawa, na wag daw magmaldita ang mga big GMA stars ngayon kasi pag naglipatan na ang mga artista, madedemote na sila sa bestfriend roles  ;D

muning00

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Re: Latest Showbiz Update (thread 67)
« Reply #344 on: July 25, 2020, 06:21:38 pm »
hahahaha mukhang bihira naman ang problematic artists ng gma, pero in terms of acting di hamak na mas better sa abs. or baka wala lang talaga kong kilala na artist or show ng gma bukod sa EB.  ;D

angel..

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Re: Latest Showbiz Update (thread 67)
« Reply #345 on: July 25, 2020, 06:21:02 pm »
For those of us na walang background sa finance, we obviously wouldn't know the difference. So wrong term ang ginamit, I should've said tax avoidance. Thanks for explaining it clearly in a calm manner and without being rude, resorting to name calling or insulting others. Yun lang naman paulit ulit kong pinararating sana sa mga tao dito. Wag bastos.

mysterioza_me

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Re: Latest Showbiz Update (thread 67)
« Reply #346 on: July 25, 2020, 06:30:59 pm »
Re GMA Artist kailangan nila maglagay ng nametag or name plate. Hindi ko talaga sila kilala halos lahat. Buti may cable kami hindi ko masyado iniinda pagkawala ng ABS. Siguro try din ng GMA or TV 5 kunin production crew and scriptwriters ng ABS para magkaroon ng direction ang takbo ng telenovela nila at pati na din yung Magpakailanman.

rondashie

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Re: Latest Showbiz Update (thread 67)
« Reply #347 on: July 25, 2020, 07:35:41 pm »
Paano na lang si Sheena Halili na forever bestfriend roles?  ;D

liana

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Re: Re: Latest Showbiz Update (thread 67)
« Reply #348 on: July 25, 2020, 08:34:54 pm »
Re GMA Artist kailangan nila maglagay ng nametag or name plate. Hindi ko talaga sila kilala halos lahat. Buti may cable kami hindi ko masyado iniinda pagkawala ng ABS. Siguro try din ng GMA or TV 5 kunin production crew and scriptwriters ng ABS para magkaroon ng direction ang takbo ng telenovela nila at pati na din yung Magpakailanman.

Natawa ako sa nametag. Pero true karamihan sa kanila di ko talaga kilala.

TomHansen

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Re: Latest Showbiz Update (thread 67)
« Reply #349 on: July 26, 2020, 11:50:18 am »
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Simpleng google lang naman ang tax avoidance in layman's terms na madaling maintindihan.

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Sorry sa off topic. I just couldn't let this tax issue fake news pass here. This tax issue is such a cheap move na madaling gawing script kasi hindi naiintindihan ng regular na tao na walang background sa tax/finance.

Yun nga, I know may kanya kanyang views pagdating sa tama ba yung pagrarally and I respect those - ang nakakairita lang is biglang may magbibigay ng opinyon based on fake news samantalang libre naman google at yung mga articles madali namang intindihin kahit di super literate pagdating sa tax/finance.

No one's pushing naman na perfect company ang abs and I don't think pinagpipilitan nilang right nila magkaroon ng franchise, ang habol lang nila is right for a fair trial na obviously di naibigay sa kanila ng house.

sarsingkit

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Re: Latest Showbiz Update (thread 67)
« Reply #350 on: July 27, 2020, 01:47:46 am »
On a personal level para makarelate kayo, dati pwede mong i-claim ang purchase of computers and textbooks for you to offset from your total tax payable. Pinapababa mo ang babayaran mo through legal means. You would also be surprised that the company that you're working for are doing tax avoidance schemes. Like I said, almost all companies do this because it is a common practice that is legal. For non-finance people, the mere term "avoidance" sounds illegal. It is not.

Tax evasion, on the other hand, is deliberate and illegal. Ito ang bawal.

Tax avoidance ba talaga ang term sa Pinas? Sa Canada we call it tax credits kaya siguro mas maganda sa pandinig. If I'm not mistaken, kahit naman as individual tax payer sa Pilipinas, you can avail of "tax avoidance" like donating to charities. Hindi lang talaga financially knowledgeable most pinoys.

And yes marami gumagawa nyan, hindi lang sa Pinas. Why do you think big companies and millionaires set up charities and foundations? But that is fine, that available for them to utilize. Walang masama.

marge070407

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Re: Latest Showbiz Update (thread 67)
« Reply #351 on: July 27, 2020, 08:11:24 am »
Correct ganun din ginagawa namin dito sa Canada para di mataas ang bayarin sa tax or makakuha ng tax refund.

rondashie

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Re: Latest Showbiz Update (thread 67)
« Reply #352 on: July 27, 2020, 11:23:15 am »
Tax avoidance ba talaga ang term sa Pinas? Sa Canada we call it tax credits kaya siguro mas maganda sa pandinig. If I'm not mistaken, kahit naman as individual tax payer sa Pilipinas, you can avail of "tax avoidance" like donating to charities. Hindi lang talaga financially knowledgeable most pinoys.

And yes marami gumagawa nyan, hindi lang sa Pinas. Why do you think big companies and millionaires set up charities and foundations? But that is fine, that available for them to utilize. Walang masama.
Hi! Tax avoidance is the scheme itself and involves various ways, including claiming of tax credits.  Marami pang ibang tax avoidance schemes. Kung yung term na "avoidance" nga medyo pangit na sa pandinig, paano pa kaya ang "evasion" which is illegal na talaga.

Tama ka! Some of the biggest companies are not setting up charities because they're inherently good or coming from the pureness of their hearts. It's all about tax credits. Pera pera pa din at the end of the day.  :)

Minsan sa sobrang daming tax deductible items nila, magkakarefund pa sila. Kaya hindi talaga comparable ang laki ng binayarang tax ng GMA sa ABS.

kaisha

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Re: Re: Latest Showbiz Update (thread 67)
« Reply #353 on: July 28, 2020, 01:07:51 am »
grabe, info overload ..

anyway, I pray for everyone who lost their jobs. Not just ABS CBN employees.. And enlightenment for everyone.

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what's the update on Clint Bondad and his cryptic posts?

What's the issue about Nas and Wil Daso something? My friend told me na matagal na daw yung podcast na yun of Nas and Wil -and it was an open discussion. Months later, what Wil said was taken out of context na daw because of a post sa twitter ba or an article about it. And then nagkagulo na mga opinion ng tao.

Yung sa ABS ba, what will happen if they just opted to sell it. Ma reretain ba mga employees nito? What can be an alternative for it to still operate, so that the employees can still keep their job?




rondashie

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Re: Latest Showbiz Update (thread 67)
« Reply #354 on: July 28, 2020, 10:27:47 am »
^The update is...........Clint Bondad just wants attention. Imagine people actually believing he is a genius for "hacking" her ex and ex's boyfriends accounts. He's not well.

Yung kay Wil naman, well this isn't the first time that he was called out sa issue na yan. Di na ko magtataka kung ganon pa din mindset niya hanggang ngayon.

mysterioza_me

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Re: Latest Showbiz Update (thread 67)
« Reply #355 on: July 28, 2020, 03:31:29 pm »
^Same thoughts. Umpisa pa lang naman alam ko ng nagpapansin lang siya.

Ano issue kay Wil?

mei-mei

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Re: Latest Showbiz Update (thread 67)
« Reply #356 on: July 28, 2020, 09:43:57 pm »
Fake news is 100% fake, di siya pwedeng maging fake for you and not for me or vice versa.

Thanks that somebody pointed this out. Has to be said as a reminder to everyone. Fake news is simply fake news, it's not an opinion. Let's all be wiser in verifying any news we read or receive from LEGIT sources, especially from real journalists who have done extensive background checks before they publish stories. If you hate ABS CBN, you could verify from other legit news outlets like CNN Philippines or Philippine Star or Inquirer. At this time and age, so many feeling news outlets have sprung which confuses people that they're delivering reliable news. They're not.

If not verified, the "news" is just plain chismis like what we do here with FP BIs and such. :D Chismis is fun when discussed in this context, if it doesn't harm actual people's lives or plunge your own country's economy. :D

mei-mei

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Re: Re: Latest Showbiz Update (thread 67)
« Reply #357 on: July 28, 2020, 09:43:26 pm »
Hi! Tax avoidance is the scheme itself and involves various ways, including claiming of tax credits.  Marami pang ibang tax avoidance schemes. Kung yung term na "avoidance" nga medyo pangit na sa pandinig, paano pa kaya ang "evasion" which is illegal na talaga.

Tama ka! Some of the biggest companies are not setting up charities because they're inherently good or coming from the pureness of their hearts. It's all about tax credits. Pera pera pa din at the end of the day.  :)

Minsan sa sobrang daming tax deductible items nila, magkakarefund pa sila. Kaya hindi talaga comparable ang laki ng binayarang tax ng GMA sa ABS.

Thanks for explaining this for people to learn. It breaks my heart to see so many Filipinos passing around the GMA vs ABS tax meme as comparison because it makes me realize how many Filipinos are financially illiterate or does not understand how tax payments work.

One thing to also note is that ABS have obviously been spending for more than GMA (their own artistas' talent fees are double or triple than GMA's, you can see their shooting locations are always overseas, and their production costs involve more investments). Very simple math to remember is: Taxable income is income less expenses. If malaki expenses mo, mas maliit tax mo. Kung 3x ang income ng ABS than GMA pero 3x din ang expenses ng ABS, then it makes sense na same lang sila ng tax.
« Last Edit: July 28, 2020, 09:50:10 pm by mei-mei »

mysterioza_me

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Re: Latest Showbiz Update (thread 67)
« Reply #358 on: July 31, 2020, 04:53:27 pm »
May nabasa ako na inireport ni K Brosas ang basher niya sa employer nito. Sabi ni employer they don?t tolerate that kind of behavior daw. Di naman siguro maaalis si basher sa work pero magtanda na siya sana. Sa office kasi namin meron behavioral something outside company premises kasama na yung attitude sa socmed kaya most likely mapaparusahan talaga yung tao na yun if ii-enforce ng employer yun. Yung iba nagagalit na nagreklamo si K sa emoloyer, nagsasabi pa na wala na daw bang freedom of expression. Jusqoooo part pa ba ng freedom of expression ang panlalait at pagmumura sa taong di mo naman kilala ng personal.

airish_2

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Re: Latest Showbiz Update (thread 67)
« Reply #359 on: July 31, 2020, 04:58:50 pm »
Nag deactivate ata ng account yung nireklamo ni K Brosas grabe din naman kasi mura sa kanya binura din yung pinost siguro natakot din. Hindi naman termination agad pero pag ganyan usually magpapagawa ng explanation letter bakit ginawa mo yun kaya kaloka talaga imagine mag explain ka pa sa employer mo bakit nambabash ka sa socmed.

 

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