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Re: SOGIE Bill Discussion
« Reply #40 on: September 05, 2019, 11:34:30 am »
share ko lang thoughts ko about the cr thing. ang mga lesbians kahit mukha nang lalake sa cr ng girls pa din nag c-cr and that is super ok kasi babae pa din sila. they have the female genitalia, pero pag ang gay lalo na na may male genitalia dapat siguro sa male bathroom sila. may nakikita ako minsan papasok sa cr ng girls pero magsasalamin or mag retouch lang and that is ok huwag lang siguro mag cr.

i asked my brother kung may nakikita siyang mga trans na nag c-cr sa boys meron daw at hindi naman sila pinapansin doon kasi sanay sila na may babae sa cr nila, yung nag lilinis daw ng cr usually babae.

i don't understand why the fuss about having their own bathroom pa or mag cr sa pwd. i saw a meme about two bathroom doors yung isa nakasulat penis yung isa vagina. kung ano meron ka doon ka mag cr.

they wanted to change their identity then they want everybody to adjust to them. i love all kinds of people and all races, i could never discriminate dahil lahat naman tayo tao. but i think may mga bills naman that covers human rights and that should be enough. parang they are asking to be treated mas special or mas superior than the rest. 

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Re: SOGIE Bill Discussion
« Reply #41 on: September 05, 2019, 12:05:41 pm »
^Yan din ang stand ni Charice aka Jake Zyrus and ni Rosanna Roces (married to a lesbian).
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« Reply #42 on: September 05, 2019, 04:16:31 pm »
^exactly even kahit hindi na yang c.r but the bill itself like glorifying shows na may same sex na tema like giving them a token or recognition. Para maeducate daw ang walang alam sa LBTQIA actually Filipinos know that they exist naman kahit saan barangay alam na may bakla, tomboy at transgender.may nabasa pa ako na comment about sa sinabi ni Nancy na iba naman daw kaso yung sinasabi nya eh, wala naman pinagkaiba  yun. Yung pwd na pinigilan papasukin sa bir hindi naman sya nagpapansin pa hanggang senado sinabi lang nya na sana wag maulit yun.

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« Reply #43 on: September 07, 2019, 06:28:13 pm »
Sana may sis tayo dito na Pro-Sogie, para maenlighten pa tayo about dito.. kasi majority naman talaga ay against eh.. Sa issue na ganito lalong nadidivide ang tao. Yung mga matitinong trans nadadamay.. And random thoughts lang, why do some people chose to disorder themselves and drag the entire society to adjust. May nakacommentan pako sa post ni Sassot Rogando, sabi hihingi ng respect.... Matagal naman ng tanggap, way of respect na nga yun eh. Ano pa bang type ng respect ang hanap nila. They're asking for too much.
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« Reply #44 on: September 07, 2019, 11:58:23 pm »
Waiting din ako sa pro sogie bill na magcomment dito, sa fb kasi puro sasabihin basahin yung bill. Nag download ako ng bill then nawala yung section doon about parenting hindi ko alam kung bakit.

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« Reply #45 on: September 08, 2019, 08:26:59 am »
I was also hoping there's two sides here kaso parang majority hindi favor kahit yung ibang trans. Sass have been asked to discuss thr the Bill point by point but for whatever reason declined. Puro iwas pusoy. Kung ako Yun, it would be the perfect timing and platform to educate the masses. Parang Alam Nya may butas yung Bill.
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Re: SOGIE Bill Discussion
« Reply #46 on: September 08, 2019, 10:39:15 pm »
Ang nakasaad sa bill angbmapaptunayan na nagdedescriminate ng sinumang myembro ng lgbt ay mapaprusahan at makukulang at may multa pa.

Pero ang tanong paano naman kung mismo myembro naman nila nagagrabyado for example yung talent manager na pinilit makipagsex sa kanya talent nya at binigyan ng sasakyan ano parusa sa kanila?

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« Reply #47 on: September 09, 2019, 02:25:04 pm »
I am anti-SOGIE but I am NOT anti-LGBTQ+.
Marami akong friends from the LGBTQ+ and I love them! But passing the SOGIE bill, for me, is not asking for equality but for special rights. For me, what needs to change is the culture and attitude of people. Kahit ilang batas pa ang ipasa, if the hate and prejudice don't go away, hindi mawawala yung issue. It will only create more hate.
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« Reply #48 on: September 09, 2019, 02:39:24 pm »
True it boils down sa ugali talaga, what if change educational system no quiz and exam until grade 3 and puro socialization and sa ugali ang dapat ituro sa kabataan habang nasa school. Eto pa nabasa ko bakit daw ang babae may women rights? Like duh? Coming from a trans it only means hindi pa rin nawawala sa dugo yung pagiging lalake and patriarchal.


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Re: SOGIE Bill Discussion
« Reply #49 on: September 10, 2019, 12:22:44 pm »
mga sis napanood nyo na ba ang video ni Ricky Reyes about sa LGBT? Anti din sya.
Tawang tawa ako sa isa sa sinabi nya na ang bakla kahit daw gilingin pa yan, lalabas e baklang hamburger lang. Hahaha

Eto link mga sis:
https://pinoytrend.net/2019/09/09/mother-ricky-reyes-to-other-lgbt-members-wag-na-kayong-magbistida-sa-kalye-tumulong-nalang-tayo-sa-kapwa/?fbclid=IwAR1jmfrD4NCrHgOmbdc9zO2TLr90ugGutta8mtPp5Mqdwywu9kOwY_pJNYE

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Re: SOGIE Bill Discussion
« Reply #50 on: September 10, 2019, 01:23:05 pm »
Infairness to some gays (general na ito) na pro same sex marriage despite sa mga straight opt to live in kasi ayaw matali for life sa partner. Yung iba lgbt member walang pake sa sogie eh.

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« Reply #51 on: September 10, 2019, 01:55:18 pm »
Yup because matagal na naman silang accepted sa society. Karamihan nga ng members nila fare well in their respective industries as leaders.

Nakakatawa yung latter part ng SOGIE bill about commending and incentivizing media if ma-portray ng maayos ang members of the LGBT group. Eh sa totoo lang sino ba naman kase ang hinde umaasta ng maayos kaya ganon din ang portrayal sa kanila.
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« Reply #52 on: September 10, 2019, 03:24:32 pm »
@lyrahs that is why sis I love and respect Mother Ricky. i have met him few times and he is very humble, understanding and smart. Tama naman mga sinabi nya sis, pero super natawa ako dun sa sinabi nya about what can he say about he SOGIE Bill, ?Let it be nalang? ang bakla ay bakla? gilingin mo man yan paglabas niyan ay baklang hamburger,?
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Re: SOGIE Bill Discussion
« Reply #53 on: September 10, 2019, 05:05:45 pm »
^sis the way lang ng pananalita ni Ricky Reyes about SOGIE bill, kahit patawa, sobrang smart nya at may sense ang sinasabi nya. Super respectful sya at alam na alam saan lulugar. Wala namang SOGIE bill nung panahon nya pero marami naman silang nasa LGBT community ang umunlad.
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« Reply #54 on: September 10, 2019, 06:52:48 pm »
Sabi ng mga pro na artista makikinabangan ang lahat ng gender pero nung binasa ko yung bill itself sabi ko Saan banda?

As in wala naman ako nakita regarding sa male and female na gender. Puro about them special treatment gusto nila

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Re: SOGIE Bill Discussion
« Reply #55 on: September 11, 2019, 02:29:24 am »
This is sad

http://cavemancircus.com/2019/06/03/transgender-mma-fighter-breaks-female-opponents-skull-are-we-getting-too-politically-correct/?fbclid=IwAR3n06x7hHBjyYsL0Ts8D_BHtb8gP9V1SiQuJCW8hR3FDHSlHmprMa8-o8E

Kahit na operada yung opponent ni Tamika Brents, yung strength nyan and bone density nyan pang lalaki pa rin. Mas malakas pa rin ang mga lalaki when it comes to punching, kicking than girls. San kaya dito ang equality? Sa una pa ang alam na natin mas malaki ang lamang ng trans kesa sa kalaban nya na babae talaga :(
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Re: SOGIE Bill Discussion
« Reply #56 on: September 11, 2019, 05:03:33 am »
True na true ang sinabi ni mother Ricky. Straight to the point

http://www.fashionpulis.com/2019/09/ricky-reyes-stresses-conservative-stand.html?m=1

Sana lahat ng bakla mapanood ito

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Re: SOGIE Bill Discussion
« Reply #57 on: September 11, 2019, 06:58:25 am »
^ anyways, pinapa urgent na pala ni duterte yung SOGiE Bill.

Nakakaloka.

Yung walang kamatayang problema sa Edsa, yung madaming batang namamatay sa dengue, etc etc.. waley.

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« Reply #58 on: September 11, 2019, 07:23:55 am »
^YUng namamatay sa gutom mga magsasaka, waley din.
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« Reply #59 on: September 11, 2019, 11:19:32 am »
^ anyways, pinapa urgent na pala ni duterte yung SOGiE Bill.

Nakakaloka.

Yung walang kamatayang problema sa Edsa, yung madaming batang namamatay sa dengue, etc etc.. waley.

May clarification si Spox Panelo dito. Hindi daw SOGIE bill ang pinapa-urgent kundi anti-discrimination bill daw.

https://newsinfo.inquirer.net/1163274/duterte-wont-certify-sogie-bill-as-urgent-panelo
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