Latest Showbiz Updates (Thread 57)

[desolate_cat]

^i never JUSTIFIED raymond's motivations. I simply was trying to find explanations.

You are right, and I actually share that same view that it would have been best if LIZ shut her mouth and did not issue any statements or interviews. Off talaga.

Sabi ko nga, i have a feeling Raymond was trying to end things, or was trying to figure out how to end things. wala naman ako sa bahay nila or as witness to them so di ko alam. baka nga kaya di nagsasalita si Ging kasi alam nya in her heart umayaw na si raymond... i can't blame any woman who wants their marriage to work ) I AM LIKE THAT WOMAN TOO. Nobody wants a break-up much less one where na-isampal sa mukha mo nag move-on na yung isa with another girl...

honestly, yung narrative nila is pang-telenovela... we (including me) always side with the sampid, the quiet one, the "inaapi" because in every person's heart, WHATEVER THE REASONS ARE FOR SEPARATION, nobody likes hiwalayan... sometimes the KABIT is just the physical evidence, the kick in the butt, that the marriage has FAILED. I personally have held on to a relationship that has failed and deep in my heart i knew it was failing... di ko lang matanggap until a year later when my ex brought a woman to a party we were both invited to (he told me we are not working out). we were still 'together' that whole year... but di ko matanggap... but nung nasa mukha ko na, ayun, nag let go nako.

Anyway that's besides the point. We all hate kabits because they REPRESENT the pain of someone, and the moving on of the one that caused the pain. Liz was just as fault as Raymond. But there are reasons why their marriage failed.

Move on nako sa topic na to. i dont need to convince anyone but im just not accepting the simple narrative that one woman caused one marriage to fail. That marriage already had problems hence it was easy for another woman to get involved.

Ok siguro nga hindi si Liz ang reason na naghiwalay sila. Baka hindi masarap magluto si Ging, baka masyadong malinis sa bahay at ayaw ng pets, or dapat healthy food lang ang kakainin bawal junk food(ewan, doctor kasi?) Baka lagi niya pinagsasabihan si Raymond na huwag mo kainin yan masama yan sa iyo etc. May kilala nga ako nagkahiwalay dahil lang sa pag-gamit ng CR.

Ang point nga hiwalayan muna before lumandi ng iba. That's it. Kahit pa pumasok si Liz na talagang ayaw na ayaw na ni Raymond makita si Ging, dapat naghiwalay muna sila. Thats it.

See my explanation above on changing jobs.

[lalee888]

^ i didnt say you or anyone is emotional. I simply said I'm not emotional in my way of thinking. Please don't take any opinions here personally they are not ever personal. To each his own opinion right? Not sure why you took offense in that and not sure why you need to be sarcastic with using petty reasons why Raymond and Ging separated?

None of us were in that HOUSE to know what was going on between those two people hence my hesitation to judge. No one of us will ever know except the two of them. Whatever their reasons are for having a marriage that was failing, it's STILL PAINFUL for both of them. Nobody wants that.

Yes, dapat nag hiwalay muna ng maayos si raymond before lumandi sa iba. I never said anything against that. But realistically, do we know that he DID NOT TRY? That he did not tell Ging, ayoko na? Na Ging said, no let's work this out? Di ko nga alam eh, wala ako dun.

Objectively speaking he should have rightfully ended things with Ging. Subjectively speaking, i do not know if he did or did not. Was not in the room.

[mrs.jack sparrow]

Backread ka sa comment ko regarding Georgina. The fallout of that is maraming nasirang booking at contract negotiations dahil sa ginawa niya. For sure maraming models ang nagalit kasi affected ang bookings nila.

Read that as well sis.  Grabe sobrang big deal pala what she did that until now madaming galit sa kanya. What she did i agree is very unprofessional.  Plus, i remember the chismis that joey mead dislikes her

[prish]

Ang galing nyo, may point kayo lahat at may sense. Keep those coming.

[lalee888]

^tama ka naman jan sis and i share the same opinion. Kaya nga off and in bad taste na nagpa-interview pa si Liz. Walang respeto sa kapwa nya babae (Ging) and sa kapwa nyang mother (Ging) and sa ibang babae na sinaktan ng lalake (i'm all about women supporting other women so my narrative revolves around that often, apologies).

And i hate how Raymond does not have the balls to man-up to his mess and probably deceived his ex-wife somewhere along the way. I said probably, i'll never know. But he HURT someone including his daughter. He should have ended things amicably and properly before moving onto someone else's arms, REGARDLESS how shitty their relationship was. Kahit hindi annulment agad (since time is invovled), sana sinabi nya ng tapat kay Ging.

They will get their karma -- i believe that you reap what you sow. And finally, super quiet nga ng mean este IT girls... si Georgina lang, of the IT girls, ang visibly supportive sa article ni Liz. Something is very very fishy -- either these girls do not agree with the article (no one does anyway) or they do not want to smear their reputation since there's huge public backlash already.

Although these girls are still hanging with Liz (last IG story, with Solenn).

[kvandenhaak]

I think we are over analyzing the situation and their marriage. Pero mukhang one thing is clear, may overlap between the legit and new girl.

[kaythrielle]

^ yup. Definitely may overlap...kaya pilit nagmamalinis ang kabit. (but failing miserably at that. Lol)

To dra.Ging: Hwaiting! 😊

[lalee888]

^ and ^^for sure namangka sa dalawang ilog si Raymond.. di naman sya ka-gwapuhan btw (not that it matters, side comment lang). And here's Liz whitewashing the situation -- she should have just kept her mouth shut. Wrong move.

Re: Georgina -- grabe ang hatred sa kanya ng mga kung sino man... there's even dummy accounts tagging her and hashtagging na she has STD and stuff.. so i guess sila ni Liz ang "odd ducks" sa IT girls.

Re: Heart -- i want to shop in her closet grabe, but good for her na-feature sya sa Harper's since parang she really loves all things fashion

[kutitapkiss]

Re Heart Evanglista: i believe her finances were handeled well by her mom. I saw an interview before where sinabi nya she only had allowances to spend and lahat ng kinita nya sa showbiz, mom nya ang nag tago. And by the time she decided to do things on her own nagulat sha how much money she have in the bank. And she felt really overwhelmed kasi daw mid 20s na sha wala pa shang alam about bank transactions and investments, si chiz daw nagturo sa kanya,

And she?s not just an actress, she?s a painter as well. Nabasa ko her paitings cost 6-7 digits and yung pag paint nya sa hermes bags start at 90k. So yep i think mayaman talaga sha.

[kvandenhaak]

^ yup. Definitely may overlap...kaya pilit nagmamalinis ang kabit. (but failing miserably at that. Lol)

To dra.Ging: Hwaiting! 😊

Medyo OT pero related: Parang situation kasi namin yan ni athlete. Granted wala na sila now but in the beginning there's a definitely an overlap. So ako, torn if I will tell the girl or not. Kasi kumalat pa sa Filipino community dito na malanditay ako, unfair naman ata di ba? I was a victim.

[desolate_cat]

Read that as well sis.  Grabe sobrang big deal pala what she did that until now madaming galit sa kanya. What she did i agree is very unprofessional.  Plus, i remember the chismis that joey mead dislikes her

Wrong move talaga siya doon, hindi lang kasi siya ang affected.

[_hotbabe_]

Meron BI sa FP na Georgina daw has a relationship with her trainer Arnold. Madami na din ako nakita sa IG na yung dummy account super comment sa kung kani-kaninong celebrity IG about Georgina.

[innocent_beauty]

Re Heart Evanglista: i believe her finances were handeled well by her mom. I saw an interview before where sinabi nya she only had allowances to spend and lahat ng kinita nya sa showbiz, mom nya ang nag tago. And by the time she decided to do things on her own nagulat sha how much money she have in the bank. And she felt really overwhelmed kasi daw mid 20s na sha wala pa shang alam about bank transactions and investments, si chiz daw nagturo sa kanya,

And she?s not just an actress, she?s a painter as well. Nabasa ko her paitings cost 6-7 digits and yung pag paint nya sa hermes bags start at 90k. So yep i think mayaman talaga sha.

true siguro  yan sis kc matagal ng artista si heart and mayaman naman sila hindi need gastusin ng mommy nya pinag hirapan ni heart, pero now madalang ang project ni heart kahit may sideline pa sya kung di naman lahat ng pinoy can afford  and sa  style ng lifestyle nya malamang maubos din saving nya. dapat hinay hinay din sya lalo na public service si Chiz, kung titignan mo nga sa lifestyle nya mukhang mas mayaman pa sya kay kris at jinky =)

[lalee888]

Re: Heart, actually true nga, since she started acting young and she could have invested her money noon pa so it's growing in a compounded rate since then then yes kaya na nga nya now but honestly di pa rin sya Crazy Rich Asians level : ) fashionista yes, but definitely not CRA level. Did she get a college degree ba or finish school? sayang naman sana she does or still pursues it even if she has financial cushion and a business that does not need it... it's just something that no one can take away from you and you can always learn something.

Re: Georgina, not a fan of hers but nothing against her either. But someone really has it out for her. Affair with her trainer? Oh boy

[lalee888]

Medyo OT pero related: Parang situation kasi namin yan ni athlete. Granted wala na sila now but in the beginning there's a definitely an overlap. So ako, torn if I will tell the girl or not. Kasi kumalat pa sa Filipino community dito na malanditay ako, unfair naman ata di ba? I was a victim.

Yep, it's always WOMEN who are marginalized or TALO and it's VERY unfair. mag-ingat ka na lang jan since kahit innocent ka, ikaw ang sisihin at tatawaging kabit.

Pansinin nyo na lang do we have a term for a guy who is having an affair with a married woman? like Arnold affair with Georgina? ano tawag kay Arnold? meron ba? Narinig nyo na ba term na Kabit for a guy? Laging ang focus/blame nasa babae. When in some cases, yung lalake ang may PINAKA kasalanan.  Si Gretchen, kahit 20+years na with Tony Boy she is called  a KABIT (i dislike her btw, but im being objective) when in fact, HIWALAY na si TB nung nagkakilala sila ni Gretchen. Technically (and convenience) na lang ang kasal ni TB.

KABIT is a derogatory term that seems to be only used for women. Even in English -mistress, did you ever hear people say that man is the mistress of that woman? it's always the woman we talk about in a DEROGATORY way.

Problem is, us women are also at fault BLAMING first other women.. nauna si guy, nauna sya and sometimes guys will say and do anything and convince a woman to make them fall (yes my fault and responsibility pa rin ang girl na wag pumatol) I'm just saying as a society, it's up to us women to hold MEN accountable first.. sensitive ako sa gender issues, at every level and context (at home, work, society, etc) and we have the power to change that, starting with our language.

[otra_vez]

re: heart, ako naman i don't smell anything foul about the source of her wealth. she started working when she was 12 or 13, right? that's 20 years of work. also, i think mahilig na sya sa birkins and all that jazz way before she married chiz.

i can't vouch for this either but a friend's friend worked as an accountant at abs, right around the time when heart was one of their biggest talents. allegedly, pinakanakakahilo daw icompute yung pera ni heart kasi daming raket ni heart before, right? she was on myx, she had endorsements left and right, she had teleseryes, etc. again, chismis lang yan so i can't say for sure. but i also don't think she's the wealthiest and i don't think she was chosen for that reason. i think she was featured because she already has a big social media presence and let's face it, she's incredibly pretty and stylish. masarap sya panoorin. she embodies that crazy rich asian vibe nga.

[drag0nfly]

^True, ang ganda ganda nga ni Heart dun sa HB vid.  Kababawans about being filthy rich aside, nakakatuwa na finally cine-celebrate na ang pagiging Asian.  In na tayo finally haha.

Di ko knows yung issue about Georgina and other models, pero eto yung nabasa ko way back:

http://lifestyle.inquirer.net/192038/how-do-you-solve-a-problem-like-georgina-wilson

http://news.abs-cbn.com/lifestyle/05/04/15/was-girl-not-it-girl-ex-manager-slams-georgina

[lalee888]

^wow i feel like i've been living under a rock. Had no clue how deep a history the Georgina issues are.. just saw these articles now! So it seems official: Georgina and Liz are the bad girls of their groupie, and that's not something to be proud of :/ if what was said about G are true, so unprofessional naman nga and rude.

re: heart, yup it makes sense now, i forgot she has been working since she was very young! and yes she's a joy to watch because she carries herself so nice.. i sometimes see her OOTD stories but not super clear, gusto ko sya ask about some of her bracelets (she has this one bracelet i can't identify saan galing, unlike her VCA and Cartier pieces). Sarap magshopping sa closet nya, lalo na ng bag and shoes! 

and YES finally asians are getting recognize din hollywood, sana it's not just a momentum but it sticks! i can't wait to watch the movie (mejo high traffic pa dito sa amin so have to wait for lesser crowds pa)

[Antigone]

Ganito lang yan.

The guy may have checked out of the marriage long before Liz Uy came into the picture. He may have tried to end it with Ging, he may not have tried, hindi natin alam. Naiintindihan naman natin lahat na wala tayo dun, we are all speculating, some based on the slight patama posts of Ging in socmed, or the staycation picture nung pamilya nung January 2017, but sabi nga, the annulment was filed on March 2017. And Liz Uy gave birth September 2017.

We all agree he should have ended it with Ging before he started everything with Liz Uy, right?

Yan yung point na pinaglalaban ng karamihan sa atin dito. Liz Uy is rewriting history, trying to control the narrative. Yan din ang point nung friend ni Ging na nagsulat ng testimony about her.

Pwede naman manahimik na lang. But no, she had to do that interview in an attempt to clear her name. Kaso lang, yung version niya ng truth eh mukhang hindi naman yan ang talagang nangyari. And that's very insensitive, tasteless and selfish.

And again, before may magpost ulit na si Liz lang ang sinisisi natin, no. Ang term na kabit, ginagamit yan sa babae or lalake. Alam ng lahat dito na pareho sila may kasalanan. We are just focusing on Liz because she's the celebrity.

[Antigone]

Re: Heart not being a true Crazy Rich Asian, who cares. The girl is fabulous. Clearly, Harper and Kevin Kwan consider her as a Crazy Rich Asian. Let's just be happy for her. Nangabog ang ate natin sa feature.