Latest Showbiz Updates (Thread 57)

[lalee888]

Don't get me wrong, I do not condone Kabits at all, or any type/form of mistress/concubinage relationships.

However, I noticed that in this thread we are so quick to judge the other woman and go as far as minimize all of Liz Uy's personal accomplishments. She is not a doctor but she is just as successful in her own field and i don't think that matters as to the point anyway. Why isn't the guy, Raymond, the one to blame and the one we are all hating?

I honestly think It's difficult to judge without knowing all the facts, and I personally have so many questions pa nga. Like why would Isabelle Daza play match-maker when she knows the guy is married? I can imagine many scenarios like:

- Raymond was showing face to Ging that he is working it out with her but he's mentally and emotionally checked out already, so he was pretending to Ging (maybe to buy time with their daughter?) while already out there living like a bachelor
- Raymond could not have told Liz Uy the truth, and told Liz he was in the process of annulment
- Raymond could have told Liz Uy he is separated but not yet annulled and preparing to file annulment paperwork. Remember, before annulment papers are filed, a couple is usually on the rocks FAR longer than the time it takes for an annulment to be processed.

I think that Liz may have been aware of Ging and family working it out a little too late (she's emotionally invested at that point, and the heart wants what it does). While she is still at fault, I genuinely think Raymond is the MOST at fault in this situation.

- Raymond is the one with a marital commitment (at the time) not Liz
- Raymond is the one who made a conscious choice and decision each time he sees his family in front of his face, and each time he sees Liz in front of him too
- Whatever Raymond was feeling at the time, he deceived his (ex) wife and namangka sa dalawang ilog

I get it girls, i really do --- Liz is easy to hate -- she's successful, put together and is a strong woman, but remember it takes two to tango. Nawala yung blame dun sa lalaki when he's the bigger sinner here. My mom used to warn me about this ... ang mga babae ang sisisihin pag may kabit is yung kabit, not the guy... as a gender, we should stand for one another and not throw s*** ONLY at women.

[drag0nfly]

I used to like Liz before.  Kahit sinasabi ng madami na mukha syang kabayo, pangit etc., I liked (and still do) her style. And kahit hindi kasing-ganda ng ibang IT girls, I think she's chic and, as you said, lalee888, very put-together. 

However, IMO, kahit ano pa yung naging timeline ng story nila, which I don't disregard ha, because siempre very important yun, I feel that she could've just kept quiet.  I mean, why rub it in the doctora's face?  Because that's what she essentially did with that article.  She had the writer paint an idyllic family picture of her life now with Raymond and Xavi.  Sabi nya she just wants her kid to know the real score when he reads about it someday.  Hindi ba nya naisip that Raymond's daughter will also read the SAME article and feel terrible about what happened to HER parents?  Napaka-selfish lang, and to think na nanay na din sya.  I think that article reeks of her insecurity about her situation.  Kailangan pa nya maglabas ng press release to justify what happened. Sorry, but I'm not buying it.  Had she kept quiet, siguro kahit papano she would've earned a bit of respect from women.

[otra_vez]

^^ i agree-- we shouldn't bash liz uy's achievements.  i used to like liz uy too and to be honest, i still like her style.  and i agree that raymond is very much the one who needs to be blamed. but like dragonfly very well put it and to borrow Antigone's words-- what's irritating is liz uy's attempt to control the narrative, especially considering that the wife, despite how badly she might want to be heard, was either not given the same opportunity or she simply chose to be quiet. maybe liz felt the need to clear her name since she's a public person but she could have gone the other way and that would have been kinder, more considerate of the people involved. wala na namang nachichikahan about them. it's all old news now. so sana di na lang din niya inungkat.

[lalee888]

No, I totally agree with your points. I also don't think she needed to control the narrative or have that article published. It was really done in poor taste and a grave offence to the one that got hurt. I do realize that she as a mom, her focus is to protect her son just as Ging is to protect her daughter. That still does not EXCUSE her behavior but it explains it. (that mom's will do everything for their own child even if it means hurting another child).

I was actually not referring to the article when I pointed out the hatred for her. I was more concerned that, while the article was really wrong in my view, raymond was getting off easy, and the hatred was just on Liz. I think Raymond should be held accountable too, that's all.

For the record, Im not a fan nor supporter of any of them. I was simply analyzing human behavior/reaction here. I wasn't seeking sympathy for her, but to put Raymond along side her (and more), in taking the blame.

[mango_shake]

Nakakatawa yung inedit na photo nila Marian at Ding dong sa probinsyano. May nanonood daw na kapuso sa AP 😁 hindi ako nanonood pero para sa akin hindi na pansinin mga ganun na props. Umabot pa sa management ng ABS. Kaloka!

kasi while edited yun pics ng dongyan, yun kay zia yata hindi.. ang bait pa nga ni dingdong, parang nag statement lang sya na he?d write a letter or something lang. hindi na siya nag ingay pa.

[Antigone]

I think it's not that people aren't blaming the guy. It's because Liz is the celebrity kaya siya ang topic dito sa Celebrity Gabfest.

And re: Isabelle baka pinakilala lang naman niya. Malay naman niya it will lead to that.

[mysterioza_me]

-Tingin ko baka inintroduce lang sila ni Isabelle as in innocent na pagpapakilala. Hindi naman siguro inexpect or intention ni Isabelle na magkakagustuhan yung dalawa. Sa pagkakatanda ko kasi sa nabasa ko sa business meeting na-introduce ni Isabelle si Mr Racaza and Liz. I am not sure if happy si Isabelle for the 2 kasi medyo sarcastic pa nga ng mga comments ni Isabelle nung bagong labas ang issue between Racaza and Liz (or baka inside jokes na nila yun). Sure ako may alam si Liz sa marital status ni Racaza. Common friend nila si Isabelle kaya napakadaling magtanong.

-I agree the guy should take most of the blame.  Afterall he was the one who made a promise to be faithful to his wife. A mistress made no such vows.

-Feeling ko nasa kabit madalas ang sisi kasi ang iniisip ni misis OK NAMAN KAMI E BAGO SIYA PUMASOK SA EKSENA, SO SI KABIT TALAGA ANG NANDEMONYO SA MISTER. Not realizing na under any circumstances e pwedeng mambabae si mister may problema man silang mag-asawa or wala.

Ako personally wala akong karapatan na husgahan si Liz pero di naman nagiingay camp ni Doc Ging so sana di na din nag-ingay si Liz. Or baka naman nagpapabango si Liz ng image kaya may paganun siya. Magkano kaya ibinabayad niya, parang hindi ito ang unang beses na may article about her na #feelingempowered ang gusto niya i-peg.

[hushush]

Totoo yung mga tagapuso nanunuod ng tv shows sa kapamilya and vice versa. According to my friend na taga-GMA. Part ng work nila yun. Need nila manuod, magbasa at malaman lahat ng kaganapan. Pag wala kang alam mapapagalitan ka. Saka need nila gawin yun to analyze at makapaln ng diskarte sa ipangtatapat sa show na may mataas na rating. 😊

[mysterioza_me]

Nung nagoojt ako, may tv na naka-tuned in sa kapuso and yung isa sa kapamilya kaya pansinin ninyo halos sabay sila magcommercial.

[young_maiden]

-I agree the guy should take most of the blame.  Afterall he was the one who made a promise to be faithful to his wife. A mistress made no such vows.

-Feeling ko nasa kabit madalas ang sisi kasi ang iniisip ni misis OK NAMAN KAMI E BAGO SIYA PUMASOK SA EKSENA, SO SI KABIT TALAGA ANG NANDEMONYO SA MISTER. Not realizing na under any circumstances e pwedeng mambabae si mister may problema man silang mag-asawa or wala.

Well said, sis. Dito kasi sa society natin yung kabit ang madalas masisi at makatanggap ng insulto eh. Kinalimutan na iyong mister na siya naman nagsimula ng lahat.

I agree na both husband and mistress may fault pero wag naman ilagay lahat sa kabit ang blame.

si husband ang may obligasyon maging faithful sa misis nya, hindi iyong kabit. Si husband ang nakipag "I DO" kay misis sa altar, hindi si kabit.

while may choice si kabit wag pumatol, may choice din naman si husband wag lumandi in the first place. if may lumalanding babae sa kanya, he could directly say na married siya at ayaw nya saktan wife niya. sadly, may mga guys pa rin na unfaithful kahit nakatali na. tapos in the end, si kabit lang ang sisisihin.

Back to topic:

Hindi maliit na bagay iyong paggamit sa pics ng Dongyanzia sa ang probinsyano ha. Kung pics nyo kaya ang gamitin without your consent, ok lang sa inyo? Iyong mga pics pagmamay-ari nila iyon. Dapat nagpaalam muna production team ng AP o iyong third-party contractor nila (kung totoo man iyong contractor) sa dongyan bago gamitin mga pics sa show.

[SnowBall]

IMO, si Liz lang napaguusapan dito at nasasabihan  ng negatives kasi siya lang naman ang artista.

Ako, bwisit din ako dun sa lalaki, pero hindi ko siya para pagusapan dito at sasabihan ng kung ano ano kasi hindi ko naman siya kilala, unlike Liz Uy na celebrity.


I agree na parehas kasalanan ng kabit at lalaking kumabit.

1. Yung lalaki, kasalanan niya kasi kahit kasal na siya eh pumatol pa sa iba. Nagpatalo sa libog kesa sa pagmamahal sa asawa niya at mga anak.  Hindi tama yun.

2. Kasalanan din nung kabit, kahit wala siyang vows na ginawa sa misis nung kinabitan niya, nasa 10 commandments yan, huwag mong pagnanasaan ang hindi mo asawa. Plus bilang tao na lang na may moralidad.. Hindi ka dapat papatol sa isang lalaki na kasal na sa iba. Sa kalandian niya, maninira ng pamilya. Hindi tama yun.

Marami talagang demonyo sa mundo.. Halimbawa na Yung mga lalaking makakati, at mga babaeng malalandi.

[innocent_beauty]

If ako yan kay Doc Ging " ako legal wife" wag sya mag sign ng annulment.

[young_maiden]

^ Hindi naman kailangan ng pirma niya para ma-annul ang kasal nila ni Racaza.

Racaza could file on the annulment case on his own. Choice na ni Doc Ging kung sasagutin niya ang annulment case. I think you mean na sagutin ni doc just in case. Kahit naman sagutin niya, hindi rin guarantee na madedeny yung case eh. Depende sa evidence ni Racaza kung dapat ba ma-nullify kasal niya o hindi.

[mysterioza_me]

Ang responsibility to keep your family intact is between husband and wife. Choice ni husband or wife (baka manlalake) if magpapapasok sila ng 3rd party sa buhay nila. They can always, always, always say NO sa malalandi.

Ang problem with society palaging nasa babae ang blame kasi ang lalake likas daw na polygamous. Napaka-forgiving ng society sa lalakeng nambabae pero ang babaeng kabit dapat ipako. May kasalanan sila pareho yan ang totoo, pero mas malaki ang pananagutan ng husband dahil may pangako siyang binitawan sa wife niya.

Nagwo-wonder nga ako bakit kapag married woman ang nanlalake yung babae pa din masama? Hindi ba pwedeng yung lalake naman ang malandi at haliparot? Mukhang babae ata ang laging masama sa mata ng society.

[mysterioza_me]

^ Hindi naman kailangan ng pirma niya para ma-annul ang kasal nila ni Racaza.

Racaza could file on the annulment case on his own. Choice na ni Doc Ging kung sasagutin niya ang annulment case. I think you mean na sagutin ni doc just in case. Kahit naman sagutin niya, hindi rin guarantee na madedeny yung case eh. Depende sa evidence ni Racaza kung dapat ba ma-nullify kasal niya o hindi.

True, hindi need ng pirma. May iba pa sasabihin bayaran sila para pumirma or makipagcooperate sa annulment. Kasi naman yung mga pinalalabas sa tv hindi magstick sa fact yan tuloy dami nag-aakala na ang laking bagay ng pirma-pirma sa annulment.

[Antigone]

I don't think may mga nagiisip naman na si Liz Uy lang ang may kasalanan dito. Kahit sino naman siguro matinong mag-isip, alam na silang dalawa ang mali dito.

Kaso nga, asa Celebrity Gabfest tayo. Si Liz Uy ang kilala dito kaya siya ang topic natin. Member din ako ng isang IT slack, napagusapan din to dati, yung lalake naman ang naging topic, hindi si Liz Uy, kasi mas kilala nila yung guy.

[mysterioza_me]

I think dito sa thread we all agree naman na parehas silang may kasalanan. Napaka-hateable lang kasi ng panggagapang ni Liz para sa image niya. Feeling ko pinaghahandaan niya na paglaki ng anak niya. Baka matanong siya ng bata if true na nang-agaw siya ng husband. Maipakita niya yung mga articles na sinulat na pabor sa kanya. Glorifying what she did.

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Anyway, waley ba ibang issue maliban kay Liz?

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Yung panggagamit sa wedding photo ni dd and marian may kaso ba yun if ever iakyat sa court? I mean edited na kasi ang face so parang ibang tao na yun. Yung kay Zia, obviously may habol sila kasi face talaga ng bata kitang-kita.

[Antigone]

Pakatamad lang din nung props people nila no? hehe! Pwede naman stock photo ang gamitin. Yung kela Zia pa talaga.

[airish_2]

^agree sa stock photo. Tamad nung gumawa. Though merong isang fan naman na nagpakita si GMA ganoon din ginawa pics naman nila James Reid and Nadine nauna pa sa AP pero wala naman nabalita kasi keber kung anong palabas yun edited din pics.

[twelvth_goddess]

In my opinion, women can steer the direction of the interaction, whether magiging affair nga sya or hinde. If she has values, kahit anong gawin ng lalake, hinde sya papatol. Pag pinursue sya, pwede nyang kasuhan, ipa blotter, madameng ways eh. I'm speaking from experience because I've had several instances of unwelcome attention. Most guys would base their next moves on the woman's reaction. Madameng ways to repel. But of course, hinde ibig sabihin walang kasalanan si guy. Obviously it's their choice to have an affair and they're both at fault. Yun nga, like what some ladies pointed out, si Liz yung celebrity eh.