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Giri

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« Reply #180 on: October 12, 2016, 09:22:36 am »
Ang isa kasi sa kinaiinis ni Duterte ay ang pagiging hypocrite ni Obama. Tinuligsa ni Obama ang killings sa bansa  natin samantalang sa USA ang daming pagpatay  sa mga black Americans. At least dito drug related ang mga napapatay at hind race ang dahilan.


Tulsa police shoot and kill black man who had his hands up

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/09/20/us/video-released-in-terence-crutchers-killing-by-tulsa-police.html?hp&action=click&pgtype=Homepage&clickSource=story-heading&module=first-column-region&region=top-news&[textspeak!].nav=top-news&_r=1

Len0523

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Re: President Digong Administration 2016-2022 Thread 2
« Reply #181 on: October 12, 2016, 06:03:18 pm »
Yung mga kagaya ni Agot Isidro panira at traydor kung sa isang pamilya eh.

Yung tipong itatakwil mo na lang kase hindi na nga nakakatulong naninira pa.

Sirain mo ang Presidente hindi naman sya ang nasira eh, ang bansa eh.
Suportahan mo sya hindi sya ang tinulungan mo kundi ang buong bansa.

Leven

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« Reply #182 on: October 12, 2016, 06:55:02 pm »
Para atang nagpaparinig na si Digong na magreresign..Wag naman sana.I couldn't imagine our country run by Robredo..My gedd. :-\

LABYU

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« Reply #183 on: October 13, 2016, 01:45:07 am »
yan ang isa pang ayaw ko kay Duterte, ang daming bumoto tapos sasabihin lang niya I can resign, eh paano kaming bumoto? We expected you to be our leader, to lead this country. Bawasan lang yung kuda kasi kaya may naibubutas. Sana naman magpaka strong lang siya, tiis pa ng konti, marami pa rin naman ang sumusuporta sa adhikain niya :(

janachen

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« Reply #184 on: October 13, 2016, 07:40:51 am »
May mga ayuda na binibigay, pero syempre hindi sapat. Parang ngayun bibigyan ng livelihood programs. Hopefully pagka nabisita ni Duterte ang China papayagan na sila.

Giri

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« Reply #185 on: October 13, 2016, 08:20:11 am »
Kahit agree man or disagree, nice article that will give you something to think about and research more as some of them are either true or false.

Duterte: Fighting the proxy war of US and China
By Jun Avelino

When you are a foreign service grad you are trained how to be prim and proper. Heads of states and their ambassadors are expected to be the epitome of decency when they speak with their counterparts. My professor once said, “When a diplomat says yes, he means perhaps; When he says perhaps, he means no; When he says no, he is not a good diplomat.” Being confrontational and too direct is a taboo in the culture of diplomacy. In the halls of UN and on a country’s diplomatic corps, diplomats and heads of states shake hands, embrace each other like brothers and sisters and their rhetoric is full of decency. Yet, at the back of their minds, they plan how to backstab each other. Beyond the smiles is a deceitful plan of outdoing each other. They kill by the thousands, annihilate a race and destroy countries. Look at what happened in Syria, Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, Crimea, Ukraine, and many other countries at war with each other, and the brutal way of how they handle migration of people in Europe. The halls of the UN have become the meeting place of the real murderers who kill with no mercy behind their cover - diplomacy. This smacks of hypocrisy at its highest level.

When I read our country’s traditional diplomats lecturing Duterte on the art of diplomacy, I puked. And when Filipinos called him out for his foul mouth (psychopath) and not being “prim and proper”, I puked hard. For if we are to believe the decency that we see in the world of diplomacy, then we are living in a perfect world – the utopia of the Marxist-Leninist ideologues. But no, the whole world is in chaos because diplomacy has become the repository of lies, deceit, betrayal and murderous plans and those people in black suit whom you called prim and proper, talking peace in the halls of UN have blood on their hands. They are to be held responsible for the thousand deaths in different countries of the world and for all the wars and global inhumane displacements because of their hypocrisy. Duterte’s foul mouth is espousing that filthy smell of diplomatic hypocrisy. While some idiots in our country consider him a source of national shame, the world is curiously watching him beyond his harsh rhetoric. When Duterte announced that he is pursuing an independent foreign policy for the Philippines, he is actually declaring war – the proxy war between US and China that is happening in our country.

How do superpowers fight each other nowadays? No, they don’t invade each other militarily. They bring their war somewhere else because they want to protect their own people. They bring their war to another land to save their own. It’s a proxy war which can take many forms. The war in Syria albeit started by ISIS, has now become the war between US and Russia and the two have just suspended diplomatic ties. The Yemen war is supposed to be an internal conflict, but US and Iran’s hands are all over the place. The Afghanistan war is a war between US and Iran with the backing of Russia. Crimea’s dissent was instigated by Russia before it declared independence and prior to annexation by Russia. And it’s all because Georgia is pro America. The war in Ukraine is a showdown between Russia and the West. The Iraq war is a pre-emptive measure to prevent terrorists from bringing again the war in the American soil, and many more.

Post 9/11 era, Russia, China and Iran are launching proxy wars with US in different countries of the world which prompted US to strengthen its alliance with these countries. In the case of the Philippines, Duterte is fighting against that proxy war. First, he is cutting loose the grip of the US over our socio political system. For nearly a century now, US tacit influence over our government has been prevalent. Almost all our Presidents are associated with the US post EDSA revolution. Cory stayed in Boston for the duration of Ninoy’s exile. Ramos was a Westpointer military man. Arroyo had studied in the US and is a very good friend of his classmate, Bill Clinton. All of them never attempted to chart a different direction of our foreign policy, thereby strengthening further American influence thereon. Aside from Erap whose presidency was abbreviated by Edsa Dos, we only have Duterte who hails from Davao and refused to be associated with the West. His revolting posture against the west as exemplified on his refusal to be confrontational with China threatens American interest in the Asia Pacific – an act favorable to China which is watching Duterte’s foreign policy direction. But US cannot afford to lose Philippines on its grip due to its strategic location in neutralizing China in flexing its muscles further. By all means, they will not allow China to get control over the South China Sea. Hence, the need to get Duterte out of the equation. Has one ever wondered why De Lima’s statements on EJK reverberate around the world? It’s because US supports it; UN seconds it; and Europe is happy about it. Hence, it becomes a global issue instead of being just a domestic one. They helped the anti Duterte forces in discrediting the President internationally with the hope of convincing majority of Filipinos to go against their President. Recent survey shows that 8 out of 10 pinoys support Duterte; Only one is not, while the other one is undecided.

Given that massive support, America is now shifting its war to a different mode – the Low Intensity Conflict. US has been notorious in using this approach in 3rd world countries, particularly those whose leadership they do not control, e.g., Guatemala, Hondura, Nicaragua, El Salvador, etc. It seeks to polarize the country by supporting its opposition in constantly hammering the government until its leaders are replaced. What is crucially disturbing is the penetration of this approach in our media which has become the mouthpiece of the West’s propaganda against our government. Hence, even if their numbers are small, the issues they espoused are magnified. Duterte knows that he is fighting from within a giant monster that controls almost all facets of our lives for nearly a century now. Our US colonial mentality is still very much in control of our system. Some Filipinos have chosen to continue licking that filthy *** of Uncle Sam to date. On another front, we are under attack by China on the west Philippine sea row. The magnitude of its business and products in our country is its approach of gaining influence in the social fabric of our lives, competing with that of America. And yes, including illegal drugs that flood their way into our shores from China. Although there is no proof that the entry of illegal drugs is state-sanctioned, the writings are on the wall. For our country to become a narco state will work in favor of China as they can now dictate the country’s leadership through the use of drug money. When Duterte expressed his anti west sentiments, it does not mean he is for China. Duterte’s position of pushing for an independent foreign policy is the only way to preserve our country’s existence - not by siding to either of the bully countries.

The on-going polarization of our country due to controversies besetting the Duterte government is therefore the resultant effect of the proxy war between US and China. Filipinos should see this instead of falling into the trap by fighting with each other over his foul mouth while the real culprits are watching with amusement from afar. We may not agree with Duterte in many respects, and for sure, he respects our democratic rights to disagree with him. But we have to be with him in his fight against this creeping proxy war that is happening in our land and gradually destroying our country.



itcha123

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Re: President Digong Administration 2016-2022 Thread 2
« Reply #186 on: October 13, 2016, 09:37:33 am »
Hope every filipino can read this article and enlighten our mind. Either proDuterte or a yellowtard or a neutral one, grabe talaga ang crab mentality nating Pilipino. Sana naman ma unite na tayo as ONE. May God continue to bless and protect our homeland.

Leven

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« Reply #187 on: October 13, 2016, 10:27:08 pm »
That article would somehow educate us that the more we drag our President, the more we show the world that we are divided, the more we are vulnerable to enemies. The only way to neutralize the situation now I guess e iwas iwas na muna sa Media si Tatay Digong. Work ng Work na muna siya. Tama si Gordon, wag na muna siya magsalita. Wag na niyang patulan muna mga nakikialam sa kanya. I like him when he's silent and nakikita ko siya sa ibang lugar na nagtatarabaho, he's such an amazing person. kawawa lang talaga at maraming gusto siyang ilaglag


janachen

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Re: President Digong Administration 2016-2022 Thread 2
« Reply #188 on: October 14, 2016, 09:18:26 am »
Medyo nakakaalarma yung post ni Sass tungkol sa ICC. Totoo yung sinabi ni BBM, the only way to secure PDuts position is dapat manalo sya kasi ayaw ng mga dilawan na maluklok siya sa Malacanang.

Leven

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« Reply #189 on: October 14, 2016, 03:28:47 pm »
Medyo nakakaalarma yung post ni Sass tungkol sa ICC. Totoo yung sinabi ni BBM, the only way to secure PDuts position is dapat manalo sya kasi ayaw ng mga dilawan na maluklok siya sa Malacanang.

may link ka sis? tried magsearch ala akong makita

janachen

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« Reply #190 on: October 14, 2016, 03:54:19 pm »
Yung tungkol sa sinabi ni BBM sis, sinabi nya yan before the election pa.

Sa ICC sis nasa international news na. Desperado na ang mga LP

Panic mode na ang mga LP, kasi sa 2019 kontrolado na ni Digong ang SC. so good luck sa mga gagawin ng mga taga dilaw.
« Last Edit: October 14, 2016, 04:05:16 pm by janachen »

Leven

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« Reply #191 on: October 14, 2016, 04:06:00 pm »
Actually, first choice ko talaga is Robredo pero last minute na iniba ko si BBM na dahil sa balita na yan..and now it just show na totoo talaga from what they are doing

janachen

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« Reply #192 on: October 14, 2016, 04:12:02 pm »
Sana lumabas agad ang resulta ng protest ni BBM. Mabait sa mabait si Leni pero magiging puppet lang sya, hindi sya ganoon ka-firm.  Mahaba habang taon ang labanan pagka si Leni ang VP.

Pero tingin ko kakayanin ni Duterte to, matalino naman sya at alam ang laro. Cross finger lang tayo.

shinies

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« Reply #193 on: October 14, 2016, 04:57:04 pm »
Si Duterte ay calculating.. May end game mga ginagawa niya sa US, UN, China, Russia... End of the day, lahat ng ginagawa niya ay para sa Pilipinas.

Dahil dito, malaking posibilidad ang assassination gaya nga ng sabi ni TP :'( Mga bansa, LP, oligarchs, etc. dami niya kalaban. Eto talaga kinatatakot ko at papalabasin nila na sakit lang o ano pa man sa kalusugan.

springblossom

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« Reply #194 on: October 15, 2016, 03:23:44 am »
interesting read.

http://m.scmp.com/business/article/2027785/philippines-future-dutertes-hands-he-heads-china-talks?utm_source&utm_medium&utm_campaign=SCMPSocialNewsfeed

in my personal opinion regarding our fishermen on disputed seas, they would never be free to fish there as long as we dont talk to China. China has already stated their stand on the dispute, loud and clear for all of us to hear. we feel it's unjust, unfair, illegal but really, what can we do? we can't go to war. so im hoping that duterte's trip to China will bring us more good than harm. as of now, we don't really have a choice but to talk.

on the ICC, i remember this was already discussed even before election. so talagang desperado na nga ang mga trapo ng pilipinas. and delima who seems to hold so many school field trips keeps mentioning the ICC. this crazy lady is defending her "honor" in front of the students, instead of the congress and senate. pinagloloko na naman ang mga estudyante. it made me realized how much they have exploited the youth of the Philippines. anyways, they can try but duterte supporters are strong, because we are not only here for duterte. we're here for our country. serious, the media may labeled some of us dutertards but actually, most of those who are outspoken now are those that are greatly traumatized of previous admins.
« Last Edit: October 15, 2016, 03:45:01 am by springblossom »

megansmomma

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« Reply #195 on: October 15, 2016, 04:08:20 am »
What a nice thread :)

Well, I've voted him not because Majority is voting HIM, I voted PRRD because I saw with my own two eyes how Disciplined Davaoneos are, How safe it is to be in Davao. How fast the service of 911 for people in need. How respectful Davaoneos to people who visit their province.

I am PRO in everything He does for the sake of our country, But i opposed his Mouth sometimes for being too harsh. Of course we want a Peaceful country, I have read an article last week at Facebook that's Titled with "Kwentong Barbero" and I don't know if its true or just a hoax, but everything that says there for me is real. Our Tatay Digong is not a Communist, He is just after the welfare of our Country and not for his own needs. You can see clearly his good intentions for PH unlike the past admins.

Hindi din ako Blind Follower, But i admit being Pro PRRD, masakit na People are blaming him after what? UN, US and EU issues. Oo may natayo na nga Rehab Centers, natayo as Rehab kase previous administration left that project hanging. Yung Patrol 117 daw? Eh may 911 din sa Davao, so originally that 911 is from Davao, from Him. And, if you are residing in Manila ask people if they can call HELP with Patrol 117 I bet you not.

I do pray that in His war against Drugs, wag sana syang ma-harm and May god bless our Country. Tama nga, ang totoong Pinoy, Makabayan hindi Maka Politician! :)

POV ko po yan.. :)

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yelle

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Re: President Digong Administration 2016-2022 Thread 2
« Reply #197 on: October 15, 2016, 11:17:58 am »
That article would somehow educate us that the more we drag our President, the more we show the world that we are divided, the more we are vulnerable to enemies. The only way to neutralize the situation now I guess e iwas iwas na muna sa Media si Tatay Digong. Work ng Work na muna siya. Tama si Gordon, wag na muna siya magsalita. Wag na niyang patulan muna mga nakikialam sa kanya. I like him when he's silent and nakikita ko siya sa ibang lugar na nagtatarabaho, he's such an amazing person. kawawa lang talaga at maraming gusto siyang ilaglag

Naku sis Leven kung may weakness man sya eh yan, kumbaga sinasabi niya talaga at pinapaalam sa mga tao yung pangit na katotohanan with matching cuss and all. Syempre yung may ayaw sa kanya ginagamit na yang mga statements na iyan laban sa kanya. Pero sa tingin ko naman marunong naman siyang tumahimik pagkinakailangan. Regarding naman dun sa magreresign siya, I believe it has something to do with the shift to federalism, Uumpisahan na yata next year ang tungkol dyan. Or pwede ring magtagumpay yung kabila na patalsikin talaga siya kasi nagpaparinig na yung ICC.

Cher_Y

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« Reply #198 on: October 20, 2016, 10:01:29 pm »
Ang sabi lang ng UN, US at EU concern cla sa EJK... ang sabi ni PDuts, PI! sever ties di ko kayo kailangan may China at Russia naman.. tapos araw raw na lang sa mga interview at coverage nya panay mura pa din.

Personal issues nya, kasi takot syang ma ICJ, at ipa extradite sa UN as a genocidal leader but he's dragging the country with him. In fact, kakaputak nya, at sabihing Patayin ko kayo, imbes na lumayo ang story about him and he's sensitivity to EJK, lalo pa kamong sumesentro tuloy sa kanya.

Sino ba ang source ng drugs dito, as per the house hearings, di ba CHINA! Bakit ang isang anti-drug advocate makikipag maclose pa sa China?

Sino ba ng umangkin sa Spratlys at nagtayo pa ng structures, di ba China. Sino ba ang nagsabi na mag jetski sya at magplant ng PH flag? As it turns out, he is seemingly selling out to the chinese dahil lang di sya pinapaalalahanan sa EJK.

And Putin, pangalan pa lang, Puting*** lol..the butcher of Russia. Oh sabagay, meron siguro syang personal affinity with how that mnster operates.

So what is your point? Previously you called me as one of the people who is contributing to demise of our country because I made a post and said that "Some people just want to continue to burry their heads in the sand"

A few pages ago you went on this adhominem against me this is what you wrote.
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If you think you sounded smart with this non-sequitur fallacy quip, think again. In fact, your kind is why this country has been in this mess for a long long time already. There's the rub.
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janachen

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« Reply #199 on: October 20, 2016, 10:59:40 pm »
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Sino ba ang source ng drugs dito, as per the house hearings, di ba CHINA! Bakit ang isang anti-drug advocate makikipag maclose pa sa China?

So anong point mo dito? Kinokondena ng Chinese government ang drugs?

Parang ang logic mo, sa Pilipinas talamak ang Child pornography tayo ang main sources bakit makikipagclose ang isang bansa na dito ang sources ng porn? 

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Sino ba ng umangkin sa Spratlys at nagtayo pa ng structures, di ba China. Sino ba ang nagsabi na mag jetski sya at magplant ng PH flag? As it turns out, he is seemingly selling out to the chinese dahil lang di sya pinapaalalahanan sa EJK.

Sumakit ang bangs ko dito. Kaya nga may bilateral talk. Dalawa lang ang patutunguhan nyan, mag-usap o mag giyera. Totoo naman yung sinabi ni PDuts, hindi natin kayang makipag giyera. Napaka incompitent kasi ang mga past admin kasi hinayaan nilang magpatayo ng struktura doon.

Ang hirap kasi nakipag-usap lang ang iniisip na ng iba binenta na ang Pinas.

Kahit nga iskwater pagnagpatayo ng bahay sa hindi sa kanila either kausapin  o itaboy.. Pagtinaboy makikipagpatayan parang ganyan din ang mangyayari. Gusto ba nating mangyari yun?
« Last Edit: October 20, 2016, 11:01:23 pm by janachen »

 

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