Duterte for 2016 [Thread 2]

[Leven]

Can someone explain the revolutionary tax? Naexplain na to noon at napakabroad naman ng explanation. This is something kasi na ayaw ko talaga sa lahat ng prinopose niya. alam ko mga businessman lang mapapaapektuhan nito but still it seems unfair na tinutustusan pa yang mga rebelde na yan, considering na napasukan na tayo ng ISIS.

[mooncake and leaves]

 Correction lang: Hindi porket ayaw namin kay Duterte, gusto namin ang status quo. We all want change but not at the expense of our hard fought freedoms na we obviously take for granted by adhering to the Marcos myth. Because it had been established, that sh1t doesn't work and we wouldn't be in all this mess if it weren't for that regime.

Hindi lang talaga kami magkasundo sa approach ni Duterte. Galit na galit sya sa crime but he doesn't actively pursue naman the root of that-- lack of education, our machismo culture, poverty, unemployment. Andun na, he sympathizes with farmers, the impoverished. But karamihan naman ng mga napatay nya yung mahirap din and who had no voice in society.

Hindi naman kasi guaranteed yun na criminals lang ang mapapunish. And the point is, before the government delivers punishment, it first has to establish guilt. Without due process, how do we do that? Asa lang tayo sa sinabi niya? He never once made a mistake? Remember he claims to have killed 1,700 people, some of them minors. Say that figure is correct, so lahat yun posed a threat to the police during arrest? The police aren't prone to abuse and vindictive, petty biases? Naglolokohan tayo.

It's not just what he did, what he does or what he promises to do that's alarming. It's that mentality that we can justify murder or resort to violence if we don't get our way because the system is broken anyway. Eh trabaho nya to help fix the system di ba. Trabaho nya, if he becomes president, to strengthen institutions, not undermine them so that whatever happens to him, whoever gets elected after him, gets to build on his improvements. Hindi yung nangangapa na naman tayo.

People need to stop lumping those they disagree with in these ridiculous categories. It's a logical fallacy na kapag you're against something, you're for another. No, doesnt work that way. We need to stop imagining the worst about everyone just because we don't agree. We are here to elect our next president and sabi nga sa isang meme, our loyalty needs to be to each other and not our bet.

[super bratinella]

As for me I stopped watching news (but I still read blogs regarding politics), I stopped posting political views and share links in my facebook wall, I come to realize na I support Duterte all the way, and it is already May so I assume lahat ng voters have decided who to vote.

[mei-mei]

Can someone explain the revolutionary tax? Naexplain na to noon at napakabroad naman ng explanation. This is something kasi na ayaw ko talaga sa lahat ng prinopose niya. alam ko mga businessman lang mapapaapektuhan nito but still it seems unfair na tinutustusan pa yang mga rebelde na yan, considering na napasukan na tayo ng ISIS.

It's his answer to maintain peace with the NPA. I will never be ok with it. Karamihan ng NPA na ngayon dahil lang sa katamaran nila na ayaw magtrabaho.

My dad's family has hectares of land in Bicol which they couldn't earn from nor sell because it's used by the NPAs. Yun pamilya na taga-pamahala ng land, they give more than half of what they earn in farming it to the NPAs kasi their lives are threatened. So yun natitira sa kanila na money, enough lang para sa pang araw araw nila at pambayad ng tax. And they can only farm on a small portion of the land since binahayan na nga ng NPA yun karamihan ng lupa. Sabi ng lawyers, we can sell the land because it's legally ours. Pero ang question is, sino bibili? Nag threaten si NPA na whoever goes there to drive them out, they would kill.

[chicafabulosa]

bgyan ng envelope!

https://www.facebook.com/joyjoyclosa/posts/1061081677297596

https://www.facebook.com/paulinelyka.bayola/posts/1108723225816212

Ang daming pera ng LP. Dito sa amin sa Paisg balita if boboto ka sabihin mo daw RoRo automatic na 3k. Not sure if totoo but. Yung mga posts ng mga bata na yan legit. May dance concert daw yun pala RoRo campaign..

[Leven]

@ mei-mei
Yan actually ang topic na iniiwasan ng mga kagaya kong Pro Duterte..They can't explain what's the benefits of Revolutionary Tax...I've heard that story too..doon sa Mindanao kasi mama ko Tausug..Mostly mga lupa doon sa Mindanao e protected ng mga Rebelde o NPA at pag gusto na ng may ari na ibenta na yung lupa at lilipat na ng ibang lugar..mag threatened na yung mga NPA na papatayin na lahat ng angkan ng may ari..e di ang pangit naman kung bitbitin niya lahat ng angkan niya sa ibang probinsya..hehe..Sana huwag masyadong maluwag si Duterte sa mga rebelde..All out war na ang mga yan. Yang pabuya..ibigay na sa mga sundalo..at wag sa mga opisyal.

[amethyst028]

may bago na naman panira kay duterte. madami daw siyang properties pati mga anak niya. nagpa exclusive interview si trillanes sa gma. gma even went to LRA para ma verify. and totoo daw yung mga properties. hindi naman nakakapagtaka iyon duterte is a lawyer and 71 years old of course nag invest din siya even his children were probably taught to invest in real estate. 1986 pa siya gov't official siguro naman nakita niya ang value ng lupa na pwede tumaas kaya bumili na siya nung mura pa.

ordinary lang family ko hindi naman kame gov't official pero my mom has 6 properties, ako 2 properties and planning to buy more, pati mga brothers ko rin nag invest sa real estate. so does it mean corrupt kame? pwede naman business minded lang.

anyway we'll see sa monday baka madaming tao sa bpi julia vargas gusto mag usyoso. regarding his bank account funny kasi 17k lang ang laman but when his bank account was revealed almost 10k yung nadagdag kaka deposit ng mga tao. 

[Leven]

hmm..may point ka diyan sis..peace talks muna kung hindi makuha sa peace talks..dapat all out war na..malaking threat talaga yang ISIS..everyday inoopen ko daily mail and female network na site..and sobrang hayop ng ISIS talaga..grabe.

[Gaysha]

bgyan ng envelope!

https://www.facebook.com/joyjoyclosa/posts/1061081677297596

https://www.facebook.com/paulinelyka.bayola/posts/1108723225816212

Ang daming pera ng LP. Dito sa amin sa Paisg balita if boboto ka sabihin mo daw RoRo automatic na 3k. Not sure if totoo but. Yung mga posts ng mga bata na yan legit. May dance concert daw yun pala RoRo campaign..

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[chicafabulosa]

Quote ko na lang sis here sis. Weird kasi nakikita ko pa sila...anyways, here's yung kay paulene lyka bayola

I just want to take my time writing my opinion about the event me and my friends went yesterday.
One week ago, nakatanggap kami ng balita na mayroong event na gaganapin sa araneta. Ang event na iyon daw ay "Sayaw para sa Kabataan". Kahit na ayaw man namin ng mga kaibigan ko, pumunta kami kasi ang sabi, attendance is a must sa aming scholarship.
April 28, 1 pm, nagpunta kami sa araneta para sa nasabing event. Nagulat na lang kami sa binigay na ticket kasi ang nakalagay sa ticket #PH VOTE MAR-LENI. Wala na rin naman kaming nagawa kaya pumasok na lang kami. Honestly speaking, wala naman talaga akong pakielam dito. Gaya ng iba kong co-scholars na hindi pa botante. Opo. Hindi pa po ako botante. Kagaya na lang po ng iba pang isko at iska doon na wala pa sa tamang edad para bumoto.
Kahit na hindi pa ako botante, mayroon akong nais na maging presidente. Si Madam Miriam Defensor Santiago. Lahat tayo ay may freedom to express our own opinions. Ang masasabi ko lang, hindi lahat ng isko sa loob na iyan ay nais si Mar-Leni.
Napilitan. Yan ang isang salita na masasabi ko sa nangyari sa amin. Ngunit kahit na anong mabubulaklak na salita,sugar-coated words at panliligaw sa ating mga Pilipino, nararapat pa rin na piliin natin ang presidente na worth it sa ating boto.
#Hindibotanteperomaypake
P.S Nais kong bigyan linaw (sa larawan) na hindi lahat ng nariyan sa araneta ay botante at hindi lahat ng nariyan ay sumusuporta sa LP

Here's naman kay joy closa

Pasintabi po sa mga mababanggit na organisasyon, partido, o kung ano pa man. Sa mga staff ng SYDP, alam ko pong ginagawa n'yo lang trabaho n'yo, kaya 'wag po kayong magagalit at masasaktan.

Kahapon, April 28, 2016. Ininvite kaming mga QC Scholars ng SYDP na pumunta sa isang event na gaganapin sa Araneta, tinawag nila itong "Sayaw ng Kabataan". Since libre yung tix at required kaming pumunta, wala akong magagawa. Ayaw ko naman talagang pumunta eh, kasi mainit at nakakatamad (hahaha sorry na po ✌🏼️) pero nung nalaman kong may mga artistang pupunta, g na!

Ang event na ito ay campaign rally ng Liberal Party, wala naman akong pake, basta makaattend ako para makakita ng artista at para sa attendance ng organisasyon namin (kasi di ko talaga bet ang LP).

Shoutout nga pala sa LP, salamat po sa 150php para sa pa-"transportation" at "food" allowance n'yo. Hindi ko alam na ganito pala kayaman ang partido n'yo para bigyan ang mga isko ng ganito kalaking halaga. (Malamang meron din yung ibang umattend sa event na 'to)

Marami sigurong magtataka, magagalit o kung ano pa man dahil tinanggap ko 'yong inabot na pera. Marami rin sigurong magsasabi na ito'y vote buying. Para sakin, hindi ko masasabing ito'y vote buying kasi...
1. Kahit naman bigyan nila ako ng mas malaki pang halaga dito, hindi ko parin naman sila iboboto.
2. Alam ko namang ito yung pera na kinakaltas nila sa sweldo ng mga mamamayan, sweldo 'to ng nanay at tatay ko. (Kapag mali 'tong pangalawa, ipapaputol ko yung daliri nung kapitbahay namin hahahaha jk lang)

Alam kong may magiging kapalit na parusa 'tong pagseshare ko nito, pero handa ako sa sasabihin ng ibang tao. #LetsNotVote5 #NoToMarAndLeni #NoToLiberalParty

PS, please do share this post. #VoteWisely

[dismembered]

hmm..may point ka diyan sis..peace talks muna kung hindi makuha sa peace talks..dapat all out war na..malaking threat talaga yang ISIS..everyday inoopen ko daily mail and female network na site..and sobrang hayop ng ISIS talaga..grabe.

Bakit parang na delete yung reply ko sayo dito?

[chocoholic88]

Make or break Talaga Yung issue ni trillanes Kay Du30 for me. Even my in laws are considering other candidates kasi "sinungaling" daw si duterte. Nakita ko din si Chito Miranda sa Twitter na parang he's considering other candidates na.

[chicafabulosa]

Sis choc,  ako i stopped watching news na. But i do still read news online but still i wont change my mind so as my family... Duterte all the way

[letters_to_cleo]

Guys, read thinking pinoy.  There´s an expose linking Trillanes, Ellen Tordesillas and a hacker who used to be a Magdalo soldier:  http://www.thinkingpinoy.net/2016/04/bangkoserye-sonny-trillanes-bpi-leak-hack.html

[super bratinella]

BPI released a statement regarding the bank docs Trillanes showed :

"I don't know where Sen. Trillanes got his information, but the graphic posted by the [Philippine Daily] Inquirer showing alleged credits, that is not a BPI document," Limcaoco, who used to serve as the president of BPI Family Savings Bank, said in a mobile phone reply.

At the same time Duterte already showed the bank statement from Dec 31, 2015 - March 31, 2016 showing 17,666 but as of today it went up to 27,000+ dahiil nga marami nag deposit.. Sabi nga sa isang post from Rodrigo Duterte facebook - tar past few a na Jollibee na daw dahil nadagdagan ang pera ng 10K dahil sa mga deposits this past few days.

[Vans]

Guys, read thinking pinoy.  There´s an expose linking Trillanes, Ellen Tordesillas and a hacker who used to be a Magdalo soldier:  http://www.thinkingpinoy.net/2016/04/bangkoserye-sonny-trillanes-bpi-leak-hack.html

Ambilis nga naging private yung domain registration sa icann. Pero may isang whois lookup site na andun pa yung original info.

[mei-mei]

^ I read somewhere that someone said the military doesn't like Duterte to win because he sympathizes with the NPA. The military considers the NPA as their enemy so they cannot reconcile having a commander-in-chief who sides with the enemy. Kaya daw behind this is actually the military.

Anyway, for me, doesn't matter na if he has millions there or even just P50. He still broke trust when he didn't declare the bank account in his SALN.

[Leven]

Mga Official ng Military lang sis..kasi sila mismo alam nila pinaggagawa nila..ang dami ding corrupt.
Si Duterte ata ang bet ng mga sundalo..I should know kasi husband ko e military din..Regarding the SALN thingy..sus mio..most of the politicians naman hindi dineclare yung ibang assets nila sa SALN..si Trillanes nalang di ba.when he was young pa sa Navy.Isang sundalo lang..tapos may 8 Luxurious cars hindi niya dineclare sa SALN din, yung businesses niya at ibang properties..He's a dummy of his mom..and daming negosyo...this was last 2014..Si Manny Villar..ke yaman yaman..noong tumakbong pangulo..may mga undeclared SALN din..Erap..

Hindi pa rin sa isang SALN lang or lalo na sa isang Trillanes lang ang reason na mag iiba ako ng boto..no way. Obviously, Trillanes now is Mar. Bayaran yang tao na yan..He'll do everything to put Duterte down. They are so threatened with the Duterte and Bongbong tandem kaya gagawin nilang lahat.

[Aquiline]

From what I remember from filling out my own SALN forms years ago, you don't specify your bank accounts. It's lumped as "Cash at hand/bank deposits". The form also has an specification na "as of December 31". If ever man na may accumulated 211M sa bank account na yun pero na-withdraw before Dec 31, hindi na talaga i-dedeclare yun sa SALN. But then if the millions did exist, he has to explain where it came from especially kung makikita nga yung multi-million deposits in one transaction day (nung birthday nya nung March 2014) at kung paano na-liquidate yung funds.

Anyway, "nilalaro" lang daw nya si Trillanes when he said na he has a "little less than 211M" sa account na yun.

http://cnnphilippines.com/news/2016/04/30/duterte-taunts-critics.html

But I do hope that he'll put an end na to this bangko-serye and finally open his account on Monday. May nabasa na naman kasi ako na his camp's requiring that affidavit again from Trillanes. Let's wait and see.

[chicafabulosa]

Baka sis meimei may mga official lang. Kasi uncle ko is official sa afp, may mga cousin ako and friends naman nasa military and PNP all of them Duterte. Di naman natin maalis na may ayaw kasi nga in the government alam naman natin na maraming corrupt. So if hindi ka corrupt, bakit ka matatakot di ba.

Si Tordesillas naman well known na bayaran na tabloid reporter, may naniniwala pa ba dyan. But for the ethical hacker na kasama ni Trillianes, his license/certification should be revoke. In 2012 there was an ethical hacker who hacked facebook and he was jailed for it.  Maybe he forgot what an ethical hacker really do... "They penetrate the system to check security and vulnerabilities rather than with  malicious or criminal  intent. "

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