Duterte for 2016 [Thread 2]

[super bratinella]

Napaka direct to the point ni Duterte, he never filter his words halatang halata na wala iniingitan at hindi takot ma bash, this is for the longest time I heard public servant na parang mala Tulfo ang bibig, actually baka nga siya pa idol ng mga Tulfo brothers. On the other hand other politician have advisers and very careful sa mga binibitawang mga salita kasi naman may umaasa sa kanilang malalaking company na financer ng  kampanya nila. Masyadong safe at takot magkamali, too good to be true, and when  they get elected huwag na po muna tayo umasa na una tayo sa list nila kasi uunahin nila magbayad ng utang na loob.

Huwag niyo ako iboto, sundin nyo bishop nyo baka mapunta kayo sa impyerno - this guy knows very well that  we need him more than he needs us...

I am a Christian, and I am a Dabawenyo and of course my president is Duterte!!

[mooncake and leaves]

^ except thats not really true. to think of duterte as the only person capable of "saving" The Philippines is a mistake. hindi lang sya ang capable of serving the country. and if he is so noble, he should feel humbled to be trusted. hindi yung parang utang na loob pa ng mga tao na tumakbo sya.

anyway, for some perspective. i love this. in case this didn't make the rounds of your fb feed. or it did but you didn't want to pay attention.

http://interaksyon.com/article/126627/jessica-zafra--of-course-you-love-duterte--he-is-your-id

[super bratinella]

Who would be the better choice among the other 4 candidates? Can you give us some light here if you have any?

Saving the Philippines should not depend to whoever will be elected as President, it will still depend on us Filipinos, but the one we can not control like corruption in the government, leadership on how to make the law implemented properly and the like there should be a good leader to impose this to Filipinos, and I have a strong feeling that it will be Duterte, among the candidates.

[chocoholic88]

"I never interfere in their elections. If I become president, go ahead and sever it (ties with the Philippines)." - Hmm.. Wrong move IMHO, Dear Mayor

http://www.gmanetwork.com/news/story/563428/news/nation/duterte-tells-us-australia-sever-our-ties-if-i-become-president

[shygirlme]

Ang di ko maintindihan, bakit yung iba dinadahilan yung the way na magsalita si Duterte sa future ng pag uugali ng anak nila? magiging palamura daw anak nila etc.etc. nasa magulang yun at kung paano mo gagabayan anak mo di ba? labo!

[lilyscapes]

i have a serious question since i haven't done my research yet (i don't know where are the right sources kasi)...but is duterte internationally competent?

[Leven]

di na nila kailangan ng script sis..baka si Korina pa nga yun eh..haha

Anyways, sa totoo lang nadismaya talaga ako doon sa comment ni Duterte about the rape victim..Nakakabastos considering na kawawa yung pinagdaanan pala ng biiktima noon(I searched it in google)..Though somehow naintindihan ko naman yung logic ng joke niya kung tambay lang siya but that shouldn't be said from someone running for Presidency..Honestly sis, medyo doubtful na ako ngayon to vote him. First noon kay Pope ngayon sa isang rape victim, tapos parang napapatotohanan pa tong doubt ko noong lumabas yung result ng annulment nila ng ex wife niya na may Narcissistic Personality Disorder pala siya..

I tried to search it in google and ito yung meaning

Antisocial Narcissistic Personality Disorder is a condition characterized by "gross indifference, insensitivity and self-centeredness," "grandiose sense of self-entitlement and manipulative behaviors" and "pervasive tendency to demean, humiliate others and violate their rights and feelings."

Kaya pala kung minsan mejo may pagkahambug siya magsalita at wala siyang pakialam kung nakakasakit na siya sa sinasabi niya..Hayysss mga sissess..Tapos sabi pa niya na iboto din daw si Cayetano para may magsabi sa kanya na mali ang ginagawa niya..e ngayon palang wala ng magawa si Cayetano sa mga kamalian niya sa sinasabi niya e paano nalang kung maging presidente na..

I'm stuck with him..hahah..Pero anyway malayo pa naman ang May 9..I need more enlightenment pa siguro..or motivation maybe..hehe

I still have time to think and analyze..but definitely not Binay, Mar and Santiago..

[lilyscapes]

^you have a point sis, but this might be another propaganda. his personality is confusing, pero yan ang gustong mangyari ng mga kalaban, yung ma confuse ang mga voters dahil sa ugali ni duterte. i don't like his personality, but that won't be my reason in case i won't vote for him. well, IMO.

remember, these politicians know that they can manipulate the common people through emotions.

[Leven]

super propaganda..haha..knowing Mar and Binay, bayaran nila lahat babagsak lang si Duterte..sa tingin ko nga kung magiging presidente si Duterte, they'll do everything to prove to the people that we were wrong for voting him..ganun kasama mga budhi nang dalawang yun. Pero in my own opinion naman e, Propaganda or not, It was coming from his mouth. walang nagtulak or naghaka haka..It was loud and clear coming from his mouth. Yung result siguro na pinalabas ng media about the narcissistic attitude niya yun pwede pang propaganda yun but those words coming from his own mouth? I just hope that he'll change for the better..kaya lang yung mga taong may narcissistic attitude ay sobrang bilib sa sarili, self centered and usually hindi nakikinig sa iba. 

[mooncake and leaves]

super bratinella: if i really had to choose among a really sad group of candidates, i would pick miriam as the least of all evil. mar & duterte would be on equal footing with mar slightly edging out duterte on the basis of duterte's tendency towards dictatorship.

[glamorosa_09]

@leven,

Alam mo sis, hindi ko alam kung matatawa ko kay Binay when he said na it's about time they undergo medical testing, psychological testing even. Bakit kamo? Baka wala nang qualified na pwedeng tumakbo, LOL!

Kung pwede ko lang sabihin sa kanya,  "Isa ka pa! hahaha!"

I actually did not suspect Duterte having a narcissist personality disorder, more of anti-social personality  disorder (aspd) actually. During his school days, he got expelled twice due to misconduct. Kung sakaling he had misconduct traits/disorder noon, it could lead to anti-social personality. And then look how he ruthlessly deals with criminals and non-abiding citizens. Wala rin syang pakialam sa self-image nya, which is a common preoccupation of common people, unless he has self-serving motives.

Narcissist, on the other hand, have inflated ego, are self-entitled, conscious about their self-image, believes that they can only be understood by equally brilliant people (read more on the net). Pwede mo ngang ipasok si Roxas sa signs ng narcissism eh.

Anyway, pwede naman mag co-occur and anti-social and narcicissism.

Back to anti-social personality (aspd), my prof in abnormal psychology who is a psychotherapist and an assessor said, we commonly see aspds in two places. It's either they're living in prisons or occupying high ranking positions. With regards to showing emotions and empathy, people with aspd kasi have learned to adapt and mimic what normal people do.

With Duterte, hindi naman yata sya na-groom i-hone yung self-image nya na maging pleasing personality man lang, unlike the other candidates na bihasa na gumawa ng public persona.

And then to add, there's Miriam whom my prof hypothesized to have histrionic personality due to her theatrical, and attention grabbing way of speaking.

So psychologically speaking, for me, parang wala naman sila masyadong pinagkakaiba. You can read more about the signs of aspd and narcissicism, and hypothesize on your own candidates.

In my opinion, these people are gunning for the highest place in the land. They do not belong in the norm, they are no common people. They are outliers. So one cannot expect normal/common qualities and behaviors from them.

The question is, can they use this for the good of the common people?

[dismembered]

I still have time to think and analyze..but definitely not Binay, Mar and Santiago..

Sis Leven

So si Poe at si Digong na lang ang choice mo? Imagine mo na lang, kukunin ni Poe na adviser ni PNoy at maraming nagsasabi na si Poe ay manok din ng LP kaya mas gusto nila manalo ito or si Mar over Binay and Digong.

[glamorosa_09]

I'm not sure how accurate is this:

It's not Duterte vs Poe, it's Duterte vs Cojuangco.

[chikit]

Wag nyo masyado paniwalaan agad yung mga psyche test sa annulment isang malaking negosyo yan and I've seen it. Totoo yung na post dito before ng isang sis naten na may mga couples na pumapayag na malagay sila may sabit sa psyche test makakuha lang ng annulment.  Mahirap kase gamitin yung ibang grounds kaya gamit na gamit ang psychological incapacity. Not that I'm defending the mayor pero meron din instances na isang party lang ang nag undergo ng test saka mga padala nya witness while yung kabila wala hindi nag undergo kaya ang result nag base na lang sa sinabi ng kabilang party.  Usually nangyayari to dun sa mga may agreement na mag file ng annulment yung isa tapos yung kabila hindi na mag contest at hindi na rin aattend ma-grant na lang.

[chicafabulosa]

About annullment psyche test. Share ko lang, my friend sacrificed her image para lang matapos na yung process. She admitted na psychologically incapacitated sya. Para lang matapos na.so for duterte, maniniwala lang ako if mismo sa first wife manggagaling. If ganun sya bakit tumutulong pa rin sa campaign nya yung first wife. They remained friends. He may not be a good husband but that doesnt mean he cant be a good leader.

[chicafabulosa]

Noli de Castro endorsing Duterte? 

https://www.facebook.com/TheThinkingPinoy/videos/627108907436216/

[lilyscapes]

^that's wrong, but lol. di napagilan ang sarili.

[Leven]

As what his ex wife said he is not a good husband but a good leader.

“Yes, he is really a very good leader. That is all he is. But when it comes to family, he is not capable of taking care of it.”

A psychiatric report done on him some years back, submitted to the court for the marriage annulment case between Duterte and his wife and  for sure galing yan naman sa mga katunggali niya na nagbayad ng mahal para lumabas yang mga confidential issue na yan.

The assessment further showed that he can be easily upset when his needs and desires were not met.
"Immediate gratification of his needs and desires is always expected; any delay can upset him a great deal," the assessment said.
The psychological assessment also found Duterte capable of destructive behavior and has poor capacity for objective judgment.
"Such lack of self-discipline often leads him to engage in unhealthy or destructive behaviors. However, he is not apt to see his behaviors as such, and instead sees these as merely exciting and challenging," the assessment found.

Napaka coincidence naman kung yung result ng annulment niya e ganun din ang ugali na pinapakita all these times..Hindi naman siguro pwedeng ibalewala ang mga ganitong bagay lalo na pagdating sa mental health..He'll be leading a country. not just a family. So any critical decision he'll make will affect millions of people..

Anyway, I maybe one of the many people ngayon na in doubt..Pwede naman na walang ivote di ba.

Sis chicafabulosa. Maybe you're right. but sana man lang may galang sa mga rape victims lalo na sa patay na.

[yelle]

About annullment psyche test. Share ko lang, my friend sacrificed her image para lang matapos na yung process. She admitted na psychologically incapacitated sya. Para lang matapos na.so for duterte, maniniwala lang ako if mismo sa first wife manggagaling. If ganun sya bakit tumutulong pa rin sa campaign nya yung first wife. They remained friends. He may not be a good husband but that doesnt mean he cant be a good leader.

True. Mom ko dating nagwowork sa DOJ region 11 pero ngayon retired na siya sabi niya pag ang reason ng pag hihiwalay ng mag asawa kapag hindi kabilang sa grounds for annulment kahit ilang taon pa kayong hiwalay hindi talaga pwedeng ma annul ang marriage. Except, isa sa inyo ay willing mag sacrifice ng image. Siyempre nasa sa inyo na yang mag asawa kung talagang gusto nyo ng annulment kailangan isa sa inyo na ready i-sacrifice ang pagkatao.

[Leven]

That's true..but ang issue dito e..yung result ng annulment e nagmamatch sa pinapakita niya ngayon na attitude.