Duterte for 2016 [Thread 2]

[lilyscapes]

^^well sis, yung iba kasing feeling elitists are just getting turned off with duterte's crowd. feeling nila, if you're pro-roxas or poe = decent or intellectual ka. 'pag duterte daw = wa class or warfreak etc. (i actually blame it on warfreak duterte fans on fb). yung ibang anti-duterte dyan nagpapaka social climber lang. lol.

the other candidates may sound decent and proper when delivering their speeches, it's because they have the best advisers and lawyers. they are trained to sound like a traditional politician. (i am for leni but she's sounding like a trapo narin ). duterte on the other hand, does not care about his image, kahit may mga advisers at lawyers pa sya. and that's what he is, not your usual trapo. unfortunately, that's being used against him.

[chicafabulosa]

@purple Tips, well for them we, who are Duterte supporters are nothing but bunch of squatters who dont know what we are talking about. But if they will analyze, everytime a pro-Duterte do a rebuttal on their claims, they can't support any evidence with it unlike us we have a lot of evidences and reason why we want Duterte to be our next President. besides, not all pro-mar and pro-grace are all 'intellectuals and refined"... dami kaya sa kanila rin ang warfreaks and jologs in sumagot. In every candidates naman yata, may mga warfreaks and walang modo.... so wag sana rin i-single out mga supporters ni Digong. A lot of Digong's supporters are actually may mga pinag aralan and may manners kaso nga lang since we are supporting him, for them we are not "DECENT" enough...

[lilyscapes]

it's actually a good thing for PR. as i've mentioned before, class AB is minority lang of the voters. Duterte's personality attracts more CDE voters (majority). good or bad publicity, he already made it to the tabloids. mga so-called elitists lang naman ang magpapalaki ng issue nya about being 'uncultured' which makes up a small percentage of the votes.

[daisy_duck]

I agree sis. They cannot even defend their president... some cannot even site a single good deed that he had done. They cannot answer what happened during Yolanda, Mamasapano, etc. Basta lang desente si Mar. I even heard a colleague that she will vote for Mar kasi mas bagay maging president over Duterte (physical appearance to). 

[chicafabulosa]

Okay my so called "christian" friend just calls duterte supporters as MINIONS. Since we just follow and justify daw lahat ng kasalanan ni Digong. i replied to her " dear not all supporters of digong are blind to his faults. We do not agree with his rape joke, he apologized, what else do you want him to do? As you claimed you are christian and yet are always criticizing him and his supporters and cannot forgive him. From what I know a good christian does not condemn but forgives".... She replied "be a wise voter. Think of your son's future".. To which I replied "Yes I am wiser now. That is why I am choosing Duterte. Because he may not reach your high standard of what is a good president is, but for us, we can feel his sincerity to make our country a better place for us and the future generation. None of the candidates specially your candidate made us feel that. Aanhin namin ang magaling magsalita sa media pero naghihirap at takot kame sa sarili naming bansa?.......

So ayan na ang feeling elitista na christian daw kuno... Di marunong magpatawad. Some of ny Christian friends nga messaged me saying, pasensya na daw dun sana daw di ko lahatin na ganun lahat ang christians. I said lang, alam ko naman di kayo ganyan. Kasi kayo nga si Duterte sinusuportahan nyo kahit na nagkamali sya pinatawad nyo. Eto kasing friend ko na to, kakaiba... High and mighty kasi sya. Feeling super linis

[lilyscapes]

^hmm, most of my christian friends are for duterte. even the INCs.

grabe, these people are taking it personally. lol.

[chicafabulosa]

Lilyscape- true sis. One of my friend who is an INC loyalist talaga supports Duterte. Eh di ba Poe is asking their votes. So can we assume wala ng bloc voting sila?

Anyways.... A good read

Duterte - his flaws makes him unique

http://www.boydubai.com/2016/04/flaws-that-make-duterte-unique.html

Critics ask, "Yan ba ang values na gusto nating ituro sa kabataan?”

If my memory serves me right, values should be taught by the parents, not the president. Mas bad influence pa nga ang ilang teleserye gabi-gabi e.

[j.adore]

Di na solid ang INC since the rally. The leaders may announce a candidate pero magiging suggestion na lang yun.

[imyourangel]

Kaya pumapangit image naming mga Christians because of hypocrites like your fb friend, sis chicafabulosa.
Even our pastors are for Duterte too.

Just a repost from Pika Yonzon in FB:

Utterly tasteless. Utterly bad. I AM AN ATTEMPTED-RAPE VICTIM. I know there's no excuse for such jokes. I know you use your humor para maki-lebel. I simply won't accept the joke. Hindi disente! You badly need grooming.

But I will still vote for you.

Because I am impressed with the anti-discrimination ordinance you have in Davao. You support LGBT, you have always been against oppression.

Because I am impressed with how you handle hostage situations, exchanging yourself just to save a woman and a child.

Because I am impressed how you have daycare centers so working mothers can do their thing.

Because I am impressed how you do your best to stop policemen from resorting to bribery by giving them groceries and what not.

Because I am impressed how you spend time with children with cancer. Making sure they're happy by giving them toys. Even your own house.

Because I am impressed how you send juvenile druggies to rehab with allowance.

Because I am impressed with your humility. Declining awards for your accomplishments because you felt you were just simply doing your job.

Because I believe Federalism is the key to bring peace in Mindanao.

Because you have Davao City. No matter how detractors try to downplay the magnificent evidence of your capability, you have the Davaoeños who speak fondly of you. From Taxi drivers, market vendors, to professors and doctors.

I can go on and on! But most importantly, I know you will not pocket money which comes from our sweat and tears. Hindi mo kami nanakawan.

I will still vote for you. Because despite your unforgivable tasteless joke, YOUR ACTIONS SPEAK LOUDER.

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UPDATE: I now understand the context of his "joke" from the interview held last April 17 and from several articles recounting what truly transpired 27 years ago. Matagal ko naman nang alam na uncouth si Digong, and actually matagal ko na rin gets that he speaks the language of thugs. He still needs grooming.

[chicafabulosa]

@imyourangel - yeah true. But not all Christians naman are like my fb friend... Marami naman akong Christian friends na open minded. Since kasi naging boss ko sya up to now super taas ng tingin nya talaga sa sarili nya. Yung tiping di sya nagkakamali. I was told nga before ng isang ka work namin na kaya sya aalis kasi nga di daw nya kaya yung ugali LOL.

For sure if kaharap ako nun malamang ipag pray over na naman ako nun. She always does that if feeling nya super bigat ng nagawa namin na kasalanan. (Seryoso ako)

[chocoholic88]

Hindi daw totoo yung apology letter na kumakalat?? http://politics.com.ph/neknek-nyo-duterte-aint-sorry-for-rape-joke-disowns-apology-letter-issued-by-pdp-laban/

[cherrhys]

Have you guys seen/read the latest news?  ABS-CBN reported about the records or findings used in Duterte's annulment case before.  Di ba bawal yun kasi sealed yun?  Pwede kayang magsue yung ex-wife ni Duterte?  Grabe talagang personalan na ang labanan at nahahalata itong channel na ito!

[ilovejdy]

i am somehow offended at why the need to emphasis na "CHRISTIAN"
friend. Is there discrimination here na kapag christian eh expected to be perfect?

and why call them hypocrites? or "self proclaimed christians kuno"??

why are we suddenly judging people for religion and their point of view about duterte?
our views shouldn't divide us between religions. lahat tayo Pinoy, period (unless may foreigner dito)
lahat tayo botante (unless meron dito hindi naman pala registered)... we say na hindi open minded yung iba kapag ayaw kay duterte, then does that make us open minded?



on topic though, I have seen that psyche test on fb that was used as grounds for annulment ni duterte
I somehow see the truth behind the analysis. Sa actions kasi ni duterte parang ganun nga siya. And for the court to accept that, means its true. Pero, the question is... why would the court allow to divulge this on public? wala ako alam sa laws regarding confidentiality of annulment cases so...


^I don't think pwede siya mag sue, ano kaso ihahain ni ex-wife sa korte na worth all her time, effort & money?


with the turn of events now. Hindi ko na mahulaan mananalo.
as per sis lilyscapes analysis, parang kulang. remember madami sa mga CLASS CDE ay nabibili ang boto.
take for example when erap won. especially class D& E na minimal or walang social media access, madali lang sila mauuto ng libreng bigas, ng 500 pesos etc.

I would say malakas si duterte sa class C but another point is, how many of them are registered voter?
ang dami sa fb, puro support, ang tanong...makakaboto ba sila?


I am still torn between santiago and duterte but I'm still researching though.

[chicafabulosa]

Im sorry if you are offended when i said and emphasized the word christian when i am sharing the posts of my friend. Since she is the one who said that as a good christian, we should not vote duterte and does calling us minions. So i guess i am also offended with how she said it as well. Since i am voting for duterte does that make me a bad christian? Di ba hindi naman. I also said "not all christians" are like that with the exemption of this friend of mine and her circle. Lets face the truth, some christians are hypocrites naman talaga, meron din naman hypocrites in other religions, its the reality we have to accept. If you are christians di ba it is one of your teachings to forgive, if you read my posts, this friend of mine cannot forgive duterte for the joke and thus voting for him makes us minions..... She would always posts things to make us who are supporting feel bad as if susunugin kame sa impierno because of our choice. On the open minded, its the best to describe us for me. We are open to the fact that he is not perfect. But we still support him anyway. I am not implying if di binoto si Duterte hindi open minded. Dont generalize and take my comment literally. We chose to support a candidate that is not within the normal standard of other people. Nagmumura, di pino gumalaw etc. and not even once i attack and make someone feel bad about their choice. Kung sino boboto nila, fine with me. But not to the point that You would make someone feel bad because you think they are choosing someone who isnt within their standard.


 AGAIN... hindi ko nilalahat. Please read back my comment. Hindi ko kayo nilalahat. Please dont make me feel bad because I shared how my friend made me feel because of my choice. And its not about you nor other christians. It's about my friend who is making me feel bad because i support the candidate that does nit reach her ideals.

[latte]

I am a catholic (which some "christians" labeled as non believer) I find Soc Villegas as one of the hypocrites too. I have read an article where he is condemning duterte for killings etc. Most priests especially the non religious ones live a luxurious life. They have nice cars and branded stuff. They are in a way influential and can be do and have anything that they want unlike the common people who are in need of assistance from the government.
 I am not a registered voter because I was away for 7 years but airing my point of view is a way of supporting my candidate. I have convinced my mom to vote for mayor duterte, somehow if he win the election I have contributed something. I am still a Filipino, I may not be counted in the ballot but my opinion is counted by the people who believes in me and that they could be encouraged top vote for Duterte.
Every psychologist writing a report for an annulment has to exaggerate the status of a person for the court to grant the annulment. I have processed an annulment that is why I know what it is. In my opinion, anyone who has knowledge about processing an annulment should know that not everything written on the psychologist report is true.

Focusing on other people's puwing

Matthew 7:1-5 (CEV) Jesus:
Don’t condemn others, and God won’t condemn you. God will be as hard on you as you are on others! He will treat you exactly as you treat them.

You can see the speck in your friend’s eye, but you don’t notice the log in your own eye. How can you say, “My friend, let me take the speck out of your eye,” when you don’t see the log in your own eye? You’re nothing but show-offs! First, take the log out of your own eye. Then you can see how to take the speck out of your friend’s eye.

[chikit]

Ang alam ko public record na yun psyche test since nasa korte na sya especially since may decision na ang judge part na sya ng evidence. Also, re: psyche test it can be biased. Someone I know was annuled recently. Si husband lang ang nagpunta sa psychiatrist along with his friends (common friends nila ni wife pero mas close at na kay husband ang loyalty) sila lang ang na interview ng psychiatrist at yung findings based solely sa kanila lang since hindi nga nagpakita si wife kaya syempre mas naging favorable kay husband yung report.

[springblossom]

Sis, andaming kasal ang na-annul. Sa mga artista pa lang quota na pero nasaan yung mga spouses who were judged by court as psychologically incapacitated? Ayun, mga artista pa din LOL. Yung iba, tuloy pa ding namumuhay ng matino.

 I feel bad for duterte and her former wife but this is politics. When I saw the news yesterday, I realized, “the battle for presidency has really began.” and as supporters, we should be strong. duterte wants to win so he can serve us. i want him to win because i believe in his leadership. if he loses, so be it. at the end of the day, we'll only get the leaders we deserve.
 

[dismembered]

This.

Expect defections on your newsfeeds from a leading presidential candidate a week or so from now. Biglang sasabihin nila, "ayoko na kay kwan... nagbago na isip ko!" And yet they cannot say who they're switching allegiance to. After April 24 na nila masasabi yun. That's part of their strategy trying to create a snowball effect to a favored candidate. Facebook groups and pages supporting this candidate will also experience the same thing. Nakatanim na dyan sa mga page nyo ang mga yan that's why there's a sudden surge in the number of likes.
Why after April 24? The ultimatum, remember? They're trying to make sure when they release this final black propaganda, it will benefit only one administration candidate. That will now explain why this leading candidate lost despite leading the surveys.

[ilovejdy]

^thanks sis purple_tips... so I guess its been a common practice pala ng mga nagpapa-annul ang ganitong scenario. I learned something new today about court public records & annulment, thank you.

sis springblossom, I feel the same way. Naawa na din ako for duterte, nakakastress talaga ang election.
I'm just glad to know na matibay loob niya at kahit matanda na siya, kayang kaya niya to.

sis chichafabulosa, I understand your point of view, I guess I missed the part na si friend pala ang
naunang nag-label sa sarili niya when stating her opinions, so i understand now why you mentioned it when describing your discussion with her. 

[lilyscapes]

^^^i heard about that too.

there's this facebook page created for a certain candidate suddenly switched to a grace poe page. these tactics are midleading. mukhang yung senyora santibanez page lang ang totoong pro-duterte.

i'm very sure there will be more black propaganda on the following weeks. perhaps worse than the rape joke or duterte's annulment issue. i feel bad for him.