MAR ROXAS for 2016

[chicafabulosa]

Cong. Nograles just said on the final testing of the PCOS machine at Lanao, the vote is for Duterte but it was counted for Mar Roxas.

https://www.facebook.com/knograles/posts/1212117252155172

So much for the disente and mabuting tao.

[Baby Madeline]

^^it's not for us to say. remember ang taas ng lamang ni Mar kay Binay last election sa pagkaVP then again, Binay won.  Let us not forget those people na walang access sa TV or internet.

We'll see. I've checked the 2010 election surveys. In the Pulse Asia Survey (April 23-25), yes malaki ang lamang ni Roxas kay Binay (37% vs 28%) but the 9% gain of Binay over a course of 1 month and a 6% drop for Roxas should also be noted.

http://pulseasia.ph/files/Download/4%2D29%2D2010%20MR1%20%2D%20PESAPR2010%2D%20MR%20on%20Presidential%20and%20VP%20Preferences.pdf

In the Business World-SWS survey, which is the latest prior to election day, (May 2-3), Binay already tied with Roxas at 37%. Significant yung pagtaas ng points ni Binay from the previous survey (April 16-19): from 25% to 37% (12 points) vs Roxas who might have only dropped 2 points (39% to 37%) but was significantly overshadowed by Binay's surge.

http://www.sws.org.ph/pr20100509.htm

So if we're going to assess the possibility of Mar doing a Binay by just comparing the surveys then and now, dapat at this time, at least statistically tie na si Roxas kay Duterte. We should also have seen a surge from his survey points but he only gained 1 point (from 21% to 22%). Mas mataas pa yung 2 points na-gain ni Duterte (30% to 32%). Note that I'm using as reference the Manila Standard Laylo Poll (April 27-May 1) because this is the closest on election day and factored-in na rin yung bank issues ni Duterte.

https://thelayloreport.files.wordpress.com/2016/05/the-standard-poll-apr27_may1_2016-presidential-race.pdf

[Ma.Jewel_1987]

No wonder Mar doesn't need OFW votes as well, kasi automatic name nya ang lumalabas kumusta naman?Yan si Mar disenteng tao.

[Purple_Power]

What are the evidences that there will be cheating? Whereas I strongly believe it is discrepancy as what happened to the OFW... as I mentioned even before there is even 1 voted for BBM but came out to be Honasan.

^^it's not for us to say. remember ang taas ng lamang ni Mar kay Binay last election sa pagkaVP then again, Binay won.  Let us not forget those people na walang access sa TV or internet.

I strongly agree, ito nga yung gusto kong irecall sa Presidential noon if Noynoy is on top on surveys.

Let us not forget as well the registered voters and the non registered
Isama mo na rin yung mga seryoso sa election at nakikuso lang
updated and non updated
marami pang iba.

I don't see anything wrong for disenteng pamumuno and mabuting tao for leading the country who has concrete plans at all, rather than the one who lacks morals and keeps on bad mouthing other people or candidates, even bashing harder and harder while he cannot even solve his own issues 

[chicafabulosa]

Evidence ba? What about this?


https://www.facebook.com/knograles/posts/1212117252155172

[Ma.Jewel_1987]

Yeah madali talagang sabihin na discrepancy lang lahat, sa dami ng discrepancy talagang si Mar ang lumalabas na binoto? pwedi naman si Poe or si Binay, at sa tingin mo ba puputok ang issue na to kung hindi naman talaga ngyayari? This info came from ordinary people lang na nagrerely sa social media para madinig yung boses nila. And no I would not have any problems sa disenteng pamumuno if its true, sadly its not, kasi wala naman syang ginawa kundi mambash ng katunggali nya, he even deposited 10 dollars just to show na may dollar account si Duterte, o tapos anong napatunayan nya dun?Nagmukha syang joke PERIOD.

[Purple_Power]

I cannot access on the site not available when I clicked it.

And what about this one? BBM to Honasan bakit hindi naging issue? 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=brSDLMwjHRs
Kung nataon naman naging Leni yan magiging issue agad. 

If there is something suspicious to other government officials lalo na candidate of course there is nothing wrong to investigate the issue as part of leading and good thing he discovered. It is already other's problem if he seem to be a joke  at least hindi siya yung nag joke ng below the belt. Period. 

[Ma.Jewel_1987]

Mar is incompetent DILG, DOTC secretary ano pa aasahan nyo pag naging Presidente sya? He even said in one interview when asked if what is his stand regarding the "tanim bala" issue, his answer? "Wala tayong magagawa kasi nagdadala sila ng kontrabando, like seriously?Wala syang pakialam sa mga ordinaryong tao, wala syang pakialam kesehodang may matandang hindi makapag pagamot dahil nagdala kuno ng bala sa airport. Kelangan natin yung presidenteng may malasakit satin, yung ipaglalaban tayo.

 In another interview which was made way back before Duterte decided to run as President, Mar was all praises sa mga nagawa ni Digong sa Davao, and he said that this should be implemented to the whole country.

[Purple_Power]

Depende na yan on how you interpret the issue kung kaya sa iba nagmumukha na siyang walang pakialam. Even though he already gave the statement on how to solve this issue then it is expected na hindi lahat ng mga tao masasatisfied run.

Can you give me the link that Roxas praises Duterte on tanim bala? all I know was Cayetano

[mooncake and leaves]

Ayaw manalo nila Mar lol. Ni konting bolada di man lang gawin. I haven't seen the ad/s but based on the reaction, one can only guess he is trying to sabotage his own campaign.

Anyway, he is so behind the polls and in social media, lahat talaga Duterte eh. As of the most recent poll, correct me if I'm wrong but 42% si Duterte, 24% si Poe. Ok fine. Let's say for whatever reason, suddenly the undecided and original Duterte supporters shifted away from Duterte, kalokohan na they will shift to Mar. Kay Binay or Miriam mga yan. And even if they did, nakakagalit yung mga resibo ng mga nauna nang bumoto.

Personally, I'm gearing na for a Duterte presidency. Wala talaga sanang dayaan. I'm not saying if he loses, may dayaan na nangyari. I'm just saying na we've been watching the polls and observing the reaction of the people, it isn't farfetched to say that only an act of God can prevent a Duterte presidency. Irespeto nila decision ng mga tao. If they want Duterte, they should get what they want. Democracy, electoral rights above presidential bets, yo.

[Purple_Power]

  Nice one! I just hope I am not posting in Anti Roxas thread. But anyway good thing there's group page of RoRo where I can see people who are from Duterte then switched to Mar, lao na nung lumabas na ang issues about bank accounts. Inamin pa nila na they are die hard fans yet mula sa pagmumura kay Pope hanggang rape jokes pinagtatanggol nila, well nagising na sa katotohanan 

If there is something suspicious about the polls then file a complaint for those who are making surveys. Mahirap yung masyado na tayong emotional sa election hanggang sa we are always speculating may dayaan na lang ng may dayaan kapag hindi pabor sa mga tao yung nangunguna. There are some people who are not complaining when their bets are not on top when it comes to surveys. Anything can happen. Instead others are motivating more people to support their bets instead of complaining kasi nakakastress lang yun.

Anyway I think my suggestion now is this,  it is better to post our appreciation to the candidate that we want to vote on the proper thread to give way as well for those who are supporting to the other candidate on their respective thread where they can also post both appreciation and other side of their presidential bet since we are still aware of the reality.

Frustrations about Mar and appreciation to Duterte are being much posted in numerous thread of Political Arena board. Might as well you want to create another topic about your frustration to Mar then comparison to Duterte in which I believe that is more appropriate.

I strongly believe, we as Mar supporters were already respecting your decision of voting other candidates. We are asking you to do the same.

[Baby Madeline]

Anyway, he is so behind the polls and in social media, lahat talaga Duterte eh. As of the most recent poll, correct me if I'm wrong but 42% si Duterte, 24% si Poe.

Sis, the latest SWS-Business World survey (May 1-3) showed Duterte leading pa rin but not 42%.

Duterte 33% (no change)
Poe 22% (-2)
Roxas 20% (+1)
Binay 13% (-1)
MDS 2% (no change)

http://www.rappler.com/nation/politics/elections/2016/131950-sws-presidential-survey-may-1-3-duterte-leads

To Roxas suppporters, curious lang kasi ako. I've read that there are people putting petitions sa change.org. The objective of the two groups is the same: thwart an impending Duterte presidency by consolidating the Roxas and Poe votes.

If Roxas, hypothetically, withdraws from the race, will your vote shift to Poe? I'm just wondering who is your 2nd choice for president and if you are going to vote strategically. I've asked my in-laws kasi na for Poe, sabi nila, if Poe withdraws, their vote goes to Binay. Thank you! 😊

[Purple_Power]

Kung ako lang ang tatanungin is switch to Poe?

My answer is this. I will go back from being undecided and leave blank my vote for President.

[chiqmom]

I hope I am mistaken but this new Mar vs Duterte campaign that's going around because of the tv ad might actually be done by someone outside the Mar and Du30 camps, who's eating popcorn right now, watching all of us in amusement. I've seen lots of friends on FB who shifted na. Good job, really good job.

[dismembered]

Depende na yan on how you interpret the issue kung kaya sa iba nagmumukha na siyang walang pakialam. Even though he already gave the statement on how to solve this issue then it is expected na hindi lahat ng mga tao masasatisfied run.

Can you give me the link that Roxas praises Duterte on tanim bala? all I know was Cayetano

I think mali ka ng pagkakaintindi. Walang sinabi na nag bigay praises si Roxas kay Duterte sa tanim bala. Please read again. On Roxas recognizing what Duterte has done on Davao, may mga awards syang binigay bilang DILG secretary pa mismo.

http://pinoytrending.altervista.org/mar-roxas-awarded-davao-city-for-being-one-of-the-peaceful-cities-in-the-philippines/

I hope I am mistaken but this new Mar vs Duterte campaign that's going around because of the tv ad might actually be done by someone outside the Mar and Du30 camps, who's eating popcorn right now, watching all of us in amusement. I've seen lots of friends on FB who shifted na. Good job, really good job.

I think it is more of Roxas' camp inciting this rivalry kasi last sya sa survey and he needs to make noise.

[chiqmom]

^i dont think so, now that the ad is out, people shifted their views to another candidate. go figure.

[aktib]

Mga sis nadaya narin kami sa capiz
https://www.facebook.com/RoxasCapizforDuterte2016/photos/a.699659116837391.1073741828.699641730172463/777431252393510/?type=3

Sana sa mga nag popost dito na Pro-Mar maisip nyo na hindi to disente or malinis na pamamaraan. Bakit laging kay Mar napupunta yung boto kung error man ito? bakit di kay binay or kay miriam? We respect your decision kasi paniniwala nyo yan, pero bakit kayo natutuwa kapag nagkakadaayan at napupunta kay Mar ang vote? Bakit nyo pinagtatanggol na error lang eh ang linaw naman na dinadaya? Sana makatulog kayo sa gabi sa ginagawa nyong pagkukunsinte.

[hunny_ally]

Kung ako lang ang tatanungin is switch to Poe?

My answer is this. I will go back from being undecided and leave blank my vote for President.

My mom asked me earlier if I'm RoRo ba. Ang sagot ko undecided/abstain-Ro.

I have reservations about Mar but other options are definitely NOT appealing at all.

[tennisgirl]

^So what kung may dollar account? If it's legit, walang issue yon.

Dun sa mga nagsasabi na baka may dayaan or magkaroon ng dayaan this coming Monday, why don't you volunteer as a poll watcher? You can register sa PPCRV or sa NAMFREL

May plataporma pala si Duterte??? Hahahahaha

Meron sis. Ayaw lang nilang sabihin. Secret lang daw. 

That's another reason kung bakit ayaw ko kay Duterte. Wala syang concrete plans talaga. Yan din ang sabi ng members ng Makati Business Club. Kung kaharap ko si Duterte and wala syang ma-present na concrete plans, sasabihin ko sa kanya, "sige, keep your plans to yourself/yourselves but don't expect that I will vote for you".

[dismembered]

^ you deleted your post. Why? Hindi ba disente?

Secret ba yung platform?

Ano tawag mo dito?

http://www.rappler.com/nation/politics/elections/2016/118670-rodrigo-duterte-alan-cayetano-platform

Hindi ko alam kung bakit secret? O baka tamad lang maghanap? Sabi ko naman ok lang suportahan si Mar Roxas, pero stop spreading lies para sa ibang candidates kaya kayo nasasagot dito eh.