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dismembered

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Re: MAR ROXAS for 2016
« Reply #380 on: April 26, 2016, 09:57:13 pm »
@tennisgirl

Pag may problema si employee.. He owes an explanation sa superior nya.. Pero si superior or management ang may owe ng explanation and apology sa clients nila. In Mar's case we are the clients. He owe us an apology. Kung may nagkulang sa subordinate ni secretary mar at ng admin sagutin nya yun kasi nga sya yung nasa pwesto sya ang accountable. Sa nangyayari ngayon he is denying na may pagkukulang. He didnt even apologize and admit na may lapses. Ang masama blaming pa yung mistakes sa subordinates. Aning klaseng management iyan? Not very good.
Akala ko ba pinanood mo yung video ng explanation ni duterte? Nagexplain yan at hindi ibig sabihin gusto nya maunang mang rape. Demeaning words yun sa mga prisoners na nang rape at pumatay sa australian. Ang pagkakasabi nun is out of anger na nidedegrade mo ang pagkalalake nung mga criminals. Hindi mo need magsorry sa bagay na hindi mo ginawa. So hindi sya nagsosorry dahil yun ang assumption na sinabi ng ambassadors sakanya. You said normal lang na hindi maganda nasabi ng mga ambasadors kasi citizen nila yung na dehado... Well guess what, ganyan din na feel ni duterte during that time kaya nya ininsulto yung criminals through that words. That is referring to the criminals not to the aussie victim.

Yup. Misleading and misinformed ang perception mo sa leadership nya. Read mo ulit maigi itong lines na ito May pagka-tyrant talaga ang leadership style ni Duterte. Yun tipong dapat sumunod ang mga tao not because yun ang nasa batas but out of fear na papatayin sila. From a democratic gov't baka maging communist ang Pilipinas just like China and North Korea. Kontrolado ng gov't ang lahat.


Unang una paano ka magiging tyrant if ipapatupad mo lang naman ang batas? Pangalawa sino nagsabi na papatayin kapag may nilabag na batas? Maraming klase ng paglabag sa batas pero not everything eh mag issue eh punishable by death. Kaya binigyan kita ng example ng gravity ng paglabag sa law. And I still stand na yung heinous crimes such as murder and rape and etc deserves death penalty.


Yung pagiging dirty ng hands... We are all guilty of it. Magaling lang magtago ang ibang leaders. Sino ba ang leader na super righteous at walang masamang nagawa? Meron ba? As far as I can remember kahit ang 1st president of the republic of the PH ay maraming masamang nagawa. You really cant deny that fact. It just shows na duterte is willing na mapasama sa mag mata ng tao at i risk not lang buhay nya kundi pati reputation nya for the service of his country. May ganyan ba sa ibang candidate? O baka puro pose lang sa camera at pagpapapogi alam? Worst baka for the benefits lang ng business nila kaya di nila mabangga ang mga bug corporations na nagpapahirap sa bansa?

I already read the article kaya nga sabi ko sayo hindi kumpleto ang details. Sabi lang nya yan di nga natin alam ang buong details. So yeah wala pa din ako masasabi jan. Btw college student pa sya jan. If possible focus tayo sa political careers nila kasi baka later on baka pati nakasuntukan nung high school maging issue pa.

I hope hindi naman nagmukhang unreasonable ang mga explanations ko sayo. Let me know if may hindi reasonable I'll find time to expound pa.

chiqmom

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Re: MAR ROXAS for 2016
« Reply #381 on: April 26, 2016, 10:11:56 pm »
Social media is getting so messy because of this election. I just hope we can stop justifying that our choice is better than others. We will only see what we want to see, no point convincing someone who already made up his mind.

I am for Mar, my whole family is for Mar. This does not mean I am making a wrong choice because when you look at it, ang dami din maibabato sa ibang candidate.

belle_v2g

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Re: MAR ROXAS for 2016
« Reply #382 on: April 27, 2016, 09:41:03 am »
Supporters will keep on throwing bad things over other candidates and that's unavoidable. Ang titignan mo lang talaga ay kung sino yung may 'tunay na nagawa nung sya ay naninilbihan' vs. Kung sino yung puro mga drawing at pangako lang. :)

chiqmom

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Re: MAR ROXAS for 2016
« Reply #383 on: April 27, 2016, 11:36:52 am »
Yes, yung may tunay na nagawa. Mar for one has his own lambat sibat program, the cheaper medicine bill (his bill was the one approved, and not the one which was first passed sa congress), and so on. I think it is unfair for Mar to be judged poorly because he is handling a national task, with larger scope of course, when you compare it to a Mayor. In fact, I am thinking that our Mayor, is just the same with what Duterte has done for 20 years in Davao, only that our Mayor has been with us for 10 years or less. Peaceful? yes. Economic advancement? Yes. Hospitals? yes. Roads? yes They are even very strict sa No Parking Policy and they make sure that proper fare is followed. I live in Albay, by the way. But all these does not mean our Mayor is better than Mar, Mayor is very different from ruling a nation.

tennisgirl

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Re: MAR ROXAS for 2016
« Reply #384 on: April 27, 2016, 03:58:55 pm »
sis dismembered:

Re Roxas: I'm working in the airline industry for many years. Of course, mga kaharap namin palagi mga passengers and we always experience complains from them which is common kasi transpo industry. Pag may nag-complain, we receive memo(s) from the Customer Service Dept na naka-cc si SVP, si VP, AVP, Manager and Supervisor (CEO not included). Attached sa memo is the letter of complaint from the customer. Of course, we are expected to respond ASAP. Nasa employee na yon kung sasabihin nya ang totoo o hindi. Kung totoo, expect mo na ang apology sa letter. Kung magsisinungaling si employee, mahabang investigation pa yan kasi ipapaalam kay passenger yung side ni employee at syempre sasagot ulit si passenger. And process will just go on and on hanggang may mapagod at magsawa sa kaka-explain. It's either the employee or si passenger ang mag-give up. Ngayon, mag-aapologise lang ang mga nasa management kung fault talaga ni employee at nauna ng nag-apologise si employee. Kung si passenger ang may fault, no need to apologise kahit anong gawing kulit ni passenger (except nalang kung magreklamo sa media syempre idedefend kami ni AVP for Customer Service). Kung nagsisinungaling si employee at mapapatunayan yon, gagawa ng paraan yung immediate superior para umamin at mag-sorry si liar employee (sa desenteng paraan). Yung apology letter ni employee yun ang magiging basis para mag-sorry ang management sa passenger. Bakit ko kinuwento? Para maintindihan mo what goes in the corporate world when dealing with customers na di nalalayo sa situation sa gov't.  Ngayon kung walang umaamin na mga subordinates sa lapses nung Yolanda, paano mag-sosorry ang gov't especially ang DILG? Paano nila i-explain kung bakit nangyari yun? And one more thing, dba Leyte yon? Balwarte ng mga Romualdez? Makikipag-cooperate ba yun sa Aquino gov't? Kaya nga it's really shocking nung nagsalita si Martin Romualdez and cleared Mar's name.

Re Duterte's video: Eto yung pinanood kong video:
 http://www.gmanetwork.com/news/story/563707/news/nation/australian-tv-anchor-tear-up-tickets-don-t-go-to-phl-if-duterte-wins

FYI, hindi ako nanonood ng mga videos ni Duterte explaing why he said this or that. Lagi namang flip-flopping lang ang contents nun. He should always be careful and responsible of every statement na binibitawan nya especially he is running for president. No need for further explanations.

Re Duterte's leadership style: That's my view of his style. If you don't agree, so be it. Magkaiba tayo ng opinion. I'm sure iba rin ang opinion mo sa leadership style ni Roxas.

Re "dirty hands": How sure are you na lahat ng leaders or lahat tayo are guilty of it? Kilala mo ba personally ang lahat ng tao? I'm sure the other GT's here will disagree with you, including me. It seems na hindi mo naiintindihan ang meaning nyan. Dirty hands means to ​become ​involved in something ​unfair or ​dishonest

http://dictionary.cambridge.org/us/dictionary/english/dirty-your-hands

Re Duterte's San Beda classmate: Kung lumabas man yan, kay Duterte na mismo nanggaling. It doesn't matter when it happened. Ang isda ay nahuhuli sa bibig.
« Last Edit: April 27, 2016, 07:44:26 pm by tennisgirl »

dismembered

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Re: MAR ROXAS for 2016
« Reply #385 on: April 27, 2016, 04:36:13 pm »
@tennisgirl

Sis, nasa corporate world din ako. Medyo Airline industry din. Medyo mahaba nga ang sinabi mo. Pero yung mga nangyari, that was urgent. Lives at stake. So investigation investigation pa ba nung time na yun? Or sisihan pa rin like "you are a romualdez"? kaya hindi maayos ang naging coordination? Hindi ka ba nanonood or nagbabasa ng news about sa actions ng goverment during that calamity? Wala ka bang kamag anak na mismong 1st hand experience nila na nagkwento kung ano ang kapalpakan na nangyari doon? Ikaw ba masasabi mo satisfactory? Kung ikaw ba ang boss, at overall in charge doon, masasabi mo ba na grade A ang results? yes or no? Well, kay Mar, yes na yes sya. The fact na hindi nya nakikita ang pagkukulang, makikita mo kung gaano ka-palpak sya. Wait, nakita mo ba yung viral video dati? Yung meeting nya prior sa typhoon pero without asking PAGASA at nag assume na sa later date dadating yung typhoon? So ayan ang naging results. Satisfactory ba? Kung nabasa mo yung news about sa sunken ferry sa jeju ferry sa Korea... you'll notice na yung principal, kahit hindi pa man tapos ang lahat ng investigation nagbigay sya ng apologies dahil regardless kung ano man ang results,may life na nawala at for sure mapipigilan yun kung walang kapabayaan. In the end, kahit hindi naman principal ang directly involved sa operations, nag apology sya and later on nag suicide pa dahil sa burden na dinadala nya dahil sagutin nya pa rin ang lahat as principal. So ngayon, balik tayo kay Mar. Gaano ba kakapal ang mukha nya para ipamukha sa lahat na hindi daw nagkulang ang government?

Hindi ka nanonood ng videos ng explanation nya? Then sasabihin mo no need to explain? Then it sums up nga talagang di mo maiintindihan sya. :) Then ibabalik mo yung sinabi nya about san beda student dahil nabasa mo dahil sinabi nya? Teka ha.. baka eto yung tinatawag mong pagiging unreasonable. You only look for faults pero hindi ka tumitingin ng other side of the coin?


If that's your view, kaya nga nageexplain ako. Kasi misinformation yun. Worse eh lumalabas na accusations yan.

Yup. Alam ko ibig sabihin ng dirty hands. Sino bang previous president ang hindi nagkaroon ng dirty hands? Si Erap? Si Marcos? Si PNoy? Si Cory? Sino? Dali... baka meron... or magaling lang sila magtago? That's reality. Ikaw ba, never ka nagkaroon ng dishonest or unfair deeds?

No comment pa rin ako sa binaril nya daw. Unless ikwento nya ang lahat ng nangyari.




belle_v2g

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Re: MAR ROXAS for 2016
« Reply #386 on: April 27, 2016, 05:05:33 pm »
^chiqmom, review more about Mar's cheaper medicine act. We all know him, he's a credit grabber. :)

Incomparable nga naman ang achievement ng mayor vs. a dilg secretary/previous dotc secretary & naging congressman pa (kung may achievement nga). natural na makapag pasa sya ng batas because that is their job. alam mo kung kanino ko maicocompare si mayor, sa tinatamasa namin federalism dito sa ibang bansa. alam nya kung paano gamitin ng maayos ang budget ng lugar na nasasakupan nya. do you even know that mayor is in talks with australian suppliers for the improvement of davao city? grabe no, pati ganitong mga bagay naiisip nya at gusto nyang i-adopt. sana ganun din yung ibang mayor, o kaya ibang politicians, di yung sasabihin nyang sya ang ama ng call center industry (obviously alam ng lahat it was gma who started all that), o kaya sasabihin nyang, anong kinalaman ng gobyerno sa kaso ng tanim bala sa naia. o kaya bahala sa buhay nila yung mga nasalanta ng yolanda. pero sa debate, lakas ng loob magsabi na hindi daw palpak ang administrasyon. hehe. nakakatuwa minsan si mar pakinggan eh. :)

tennisgirl

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Re: MAR ROXAS for 2016
« Reply #387 on: April 27, 2016, 06:11:36 pm »
sis dismembered: Now i know kung bakit ka ganyan ka magsalita kay roxas  ;) There's no need to explain. FYI: Never pa ako nagkaroon ng "dirty hands" dahil alam kung may laging nakatinging sa akin from above at takot ako sa karma. Ewan ko lang ikaw  ::)

« Last Edit: April 27, 2016, 06:23:12 pm by tennisgirl »

dismembered

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Re: MAR ROXAS for 2016
« Reply #388 on: April 27, 2016, 06:20:08 pm »
sis dismembered: Now i know kung bakit ka ganyan ka kay roxas  ;) There's no need to explain. FYI: Never pa ako nagkaroon ng "dirty hands" dahil alam kung may laging nakatinging sa akin from above at takot ako sa karma. Ewan ko lang ikaw  ::)

Yes sis! Agree to disagree. Iwan ko na lang itong verse at sana magets mo ang sinasabi ko.

"If we claim we have no sin, we are only fooling ourselves and not living in the truth." 1 John 1:8


tennisgirl

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Re: MAR ROXAS for 2016
« Reply #389 on: April 27, 2016, 06:25:30 pm »
^Amen to that! Pahiram ha, i-post ko sa Duterte thread  ;D

Anyway mga sisses ,just want to share this.

http://philippinesdaily.org/foreigners-describe-presidential-bets/

dismembered

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Re: MAR ROXAS for 2016
« Reply #390 on: April 27, 2016, 06:30:56 pm »
^ Don't worry, alam ng mga nandun na no one is clean, otherwise, hypocrisy na ang tawag. :)

chicafabulosa

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Re: MAR ROXAS for 2016
« Reply #391 on: April 27, 2016, 06:46:59 pm »
I watched that already sis, doesnt change my choice. duterte pa rin ako

yelle

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Re: MAR ROXAS for 2016
« Reply #392 on: April 27, 2016, 06:53:27 pm »
Dito ko nalang i-post kasi mas fitting.

Oo nga naman Lourd. Tren palang hindi na kayang rendahan, bansa pa kaya? According to Lourd de Veyra MRT is equals to Mar Roxas Tragedy.  :-[

Panoorin nalang ang video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S43nDBV_mHc

chocoholic88

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Re: MAR ROXAS for 2016
« Reply #393 on: April 27, 2016, 06:56:54 pm »
^Amen to that! Pahiram ha, i-post ko sa Duterte thread  ;D

Anyway mga sisses ,just want to share this.

http://philippinesdaily.org/foreigners-describe-presidential-bets/

I watched this nakakatawa nga. kawawa naman si Binay - Yoda. haha. One lesson I learned para magmukhang presidentiable, magsuot ng glasses  ;)

belle_v2g

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Re: MAR ROXAS for 2016
« Reply #394 on: April 27, 2016, 07:00:56 pm »
^regarding the How Foreigners Describes the Presidential Candidates, ang shallow lang ha! :) Judging the person based on their physical attributes. Sabagay, ano bang alam nila sa problema ng Pilipinas??

Yelle, natawa ako sa new abbrev. ng MRT. Suits him well. :)

Anyway, I have a clip here that is even more worthy of watching and sharing.

http://aboutstuff-stuff.blogspot.com.au/2016/04/the-horrible-truth-that-anti-dutertes.html?m=1
« Last Edit: April 27, 2016, 07:17:26 pm by belle_v2g »

Vans

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Re: MAR ROXAS for 2016
« Reply #395 on: April 27, 2016, 07:18:14 pm »
Napanood ko yung video. Akala ko naman kung ano. Should Filipinos vote based on first impression from foreigners who don't even live in the Philippines?

tennisgirl

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Re: MAR ROXAS for 2016
« Reply #396 on: April 27, 2016, 07:39:03 pm »
sis dismembered: Well, if that's your opinion of Roxas , I respect that. I have my own opinion of Duterte too  ;)

sis chicafabulosa: Thank you for watching  :) I hope you enjoy it.  ;D

chicafabulosa

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Re: MAR ROXAS for 2016
« Reply #397 on: April 27, 2016, 07:47:37 pm »
No worries actually aliw sya. It's an icebreaker sa hot debate nyo ni dismembered... :) yeah i will i fact let my husband watch it too. For entertainment purpose only  :D

dismembered

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Re: MAR ROXAS for 2016
« Reply #398 on: April 27, 2016, 07:50:55 pm »
Dito ko nalang i-post kasi mas fitting.

Oo nga naman Lourd. Tren palang hindi na kayang rendahan, bansa pa kaya? According to Lourd de Veyra MRT is equals to Mar Roxas Tragedy.  :-[

Panoorin nalang ang video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S43nDBV_mHc

Hindi kasalanan ni Mar yan. Subordinates nya may kasalanan jan sa MRT.  :P


tennisgirl

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Re: MAR ROXAS for 2016
« Reply #399 on: April 27, 2016, 08:06:58 pm »
^^share mo rin sa iba sis...kahit for entertainment purposes lang  ;)

 

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