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mamichula

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Yaya Problems: Should we keep her or let go?
« on: April 29, 2015, 06:30:23 pm »
Our kids' other yaya has been with us for 6 months (which is like 3 taon in kasambahay years hehe). My husband sent her home nung March kasi he lost 1k and sabi ng other yaya sya ang kumuha plus pag uwi namin may malaking malaking bukol ang anak ko and she didn't apologize.

I talked to her on Facebook and she denied everything ako naman naawa so when she said wala pa din syang trabaho I asked her to come back and convinced my husband to take her back. Nahirapan din kasi kami humanap ng kapalit.

Ngayon we gave her a raise, and inaasikaso ang benefits nya hoping that will motivate her pero parang hindi nagbago. Lalo atang lumala. Matagal na nyang sakit ang mahilig manira ng ibang tao and now lalong lumala.

Mahilig sya magimbento ng kwento para ipa away ako sa ibang tao. A few days ago she said pinapirate sya dati ng mom ko so I confronted my mom who said it's not true. I confronted the yaya this morning and in her head pinirate daw sya talaga ng mom ko and magusap daw sa weekend when we visit our mom.

May mga iba pa syang imbentong kwento about people. MInsan alam ko pinag aaway nya kaming mag asawa like kung ano anong sinusumbong nya sakin para magalit ako sa husband ko

Now sinisiraan nya yung isang yaya na hindi daw marunong mag alaga ng bata etc etc.

And the worst part of it all she's intrigera. Kala ko nagbago na. Sabi kasi nung dati nyang kasama iniintriga daw kaming mag asawa na di kami kasal dahil wala kaming wedding pictures na naka display sa condo. So didn't believe it until recently nung yung yaya mismo asked me kung nasan ang wedding ring ko which I don't wear kasi hindi na kasya!

Sa ibang amo I know the mere fact na malakas ang loob at bastos syang magusisa pauuwiin na sya. Pero ako kasi ayoko pabigla bigla.

Enough grounds ba to let a yaya go yung mahilig magimbento ng kwento and intrigera? She's pasensyosa sa anak kong makulit that's why we're keeping her pero parang sobra na ang pagka intrigera nya at mapanira. Na pati kami ng mom ko pinag aaway nya.

Plus may mga gamit kami sa laundry area na kinukuha nya ng walang paalam and lately pag nireview ang cctv nakikita ng husband ko na inaasa nya sa isang yaya ang lahat ng gawain. Magluluto lang ng almusal yan. Tapos mag TTV magluluto ng lunch, makkinig ng radyo sa kwarto nila at matutulog ng 3 oras sa hapon! tapos magreeready na ng dinner. So in short kung walang utos kain tulog nuod tv lang sya bukod sa intrigera.

I don't know if I should give her another another chance haha to change or let go. Ang hirap din kasi mghanap ng matyaga sa bata baka mamaya makakuha kami ng worse than her yung nananakit ng bata so I'm thinking about it pa.




aquacharly

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Re: Yaya Problems: Should we keep her or let go?
« Reply #1 on: April 29, 2015, 07:22:04 pm »
Should you keep her or let her go?

You say she is good with your makulit kid. Really? Ikaw na nag sabi kain tulog sya.
Actually, she is a person you do not want to keep in your home. However, you have chosen to compromise your  standards and  exposed your relationships to risk -- for what? The small convenience of her watching a makulit (makulit is normal, lampa lampa is abnormal, naman di ba?) kid after attending to her priorities of TV watching and napping?

WHY are you pandering to this inefficient, sticky-fingered, trouble making woman?
You win her back to return, and give her more perks & expect her to mend her ways?  Rewarding bad behavior leads to improved behavior?

Instead of treating her with so much consideration, pandering to her, hoping your generosity will transform her into a better person (don't hold your breathe hoping for that). --  why don't you just focus on getting a yaya who will behave and tow your line because you pay a higher than going-rate salary?   Isn't  it gonna be more cost effective in the long run if you get someone to  take care of your son minus the extended non-service hours, loss due to thievery & loss of your time due to her intrigues?

Bakit ganon ang laki ng takot mo mawalan ng yaya?  Our times are different from our moms'.  While you are still searching for another yaya.   -- can't you pay your other yaya extra to mind your son?  Or ask your mom/MIL to pitch in?
Yes, I know reliable trustworthy help is hard these days. But, IMO, most behave and curb their un-trustworthiness and un-reliability IF THE PRICE IS RIGHT.  That's our world nowadays, it is what it is.

This small badudah woman knows she can abuse you.  How far will you let her go? 
At some point,  we gotta face our fear of the temporary inconvenience of having no help, & draw the line.    Sure, it's kinda scary.  But speaking for myself, I am not gonna tolerate thievery, nor the lowering of my standards, nor the unnecessary & malicious  testing of my relationships.   There must be some workable stop-gap measure.  This incorrigible woman surely isn't the only solution?!

Quality Help is really getting more scarce, harder to motivate & manage. It is what it is -- these are our times.  Actually, the issue is not just getting another yaya.  It's the whole gamut of how you manage your makulit kid's development & manage your home. -- so that you do not become too dependent (and hostage) to a yaya. 

Keep her or let her go?
Depends on you:     What can you live with?  Live without?  No judgment. 







mamichula

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Re: Yaya Problems: Should we keep her or let go?
« Reply #2 on: April 29, 2015, 07:54:45 pm »
Should you keep her or let her go?

You say she is good with your makulit kid. Really? Ikaw na nag sabi kain tulog sya.
Actually, she is a person you do not want to keep in your home. However, you have chosen to compromise your  standards and  exposed your relationships to risk -- for what? The small convenience of her watching a makulit (makulit is normal, lampa lampa is abnormal, naman di ba?) kid after attending to her priorities of TV watching and napping?

WHY are you pandering to this inefficient, sticky-fingered, trouble making woman?
You win her back to return, and give her more perks & expect her to mend her ways?  Rewarding bad behavior leads to improved behavior?

Instead of treating her with so much consideration, pandering to her, hoping your generosity will transform her into a better person (don't hold your breathe hoping for that). --  why don't you just focus on getting a yaya who will behave and tow your line because you pay a higher than going-rate salary?   Isn't  it gonna be more cost effective in the long run if you get someone to  take care of your son minus the extended non-service hours, loss due to thievery & loss of your time due to her intrigues?

Bakit ganon ang laki ng takot mo mawalan ng yaya?  Our times are different from our moms'.  While you are still searching for another yaya.   -- can't you pay your other yaya extra to mind your son?  Or ask your mom/MIL to pitch in?
Yes, I know reliable trustworthy help is hard these days. But, IMO, most behave and curb their un-trustworthiness and un-reliability IF THE PRICE IS RIGHT.  That's our world nowadays, it is what it is.

This small badudah woman knows she can abuse you.  How far will you let her go? 
At some point,  we gotta face our fear of the temporary inconvenience of having no help, & draw the line.    Sure, it's kinda scary.  But speaking for myself, I am not gonna tolerate thievery, nor the lowering of my standards, nor the unnecessary & malicious  testing of my relationships.   There must be some workable stop-gap measure.  This incorrigible woman surely isn't the only solution?!

Quality Help is really getting more scarce, harder to motivate & manage. It is what it is -- these are our times.  Actually, the issue is not just getting another yaya.  It's the whole gamut of how you manage your makulit kid's development & manage your home. -- so that you do not become too dependent (and hostage) to a yaya. 

Keep her or let her go?
Depends on you:     What can you live with?  Live without?  No judgment.


Thanks for your inputs.  ;)

Our parents are abroad though sigh. Only sister who can help out is not here too so that's that. And I work full-time. Currently on leave but will return to work soon. Leaving work is not an option right now.
And when I return to work yaya 1 will take care of the toddler and yaya 2 will take care of the new born baby. The other yaya cannot possibly take care of a few-month old baby and a toddler. Hindi nya kakayanin kahit we give her extra.

As much as I would like to think that hiring help and getting a replacement is easy, it's not. We've tried calling so many agencies asking friends for referrals, even posting online ads! It's hard to get a yaya these days more so get a decent one. Sigh. Kamaganaks? Wala din. Mine are in the States :'( walang mahila to stay here even for awhile which is what some people do.

When she left ang hirap sobra we had to go on extended leaves to stay with our son wala talaga kaming mahila to look after him. We tried sa childcare which is nice naman pero hindi sya pwede dun ng more than a month, nagkakasakit.

That's why we are thinking about it. Looking for replacements already actually pero wala pa din nag rerefer. From agencies ayaw mag alaga ng toddler. Or some when we interview over the phone madami masyadong demands you wouldn't believe it.

If you have someone you can refer please do let me know, no seriously! :) Or let me know if you know an agency na maayos ang mga aplikante.

BTW When we got her back we were under the impression na siniraan lang sya ng kasama nya. Anyway kung may kapalit lang right now or before I go back to work someone I can train na now baka mabilis lang mag decide.










aquacharly

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Re: Yaya Problems: Should we keep her or let go?
« Reply #3 on: April 30, 2015, 09:02:50 am »
Yes, so many considerations; it's tough, I know.

I am a businesswoman, and contrary to what most think:  we entrepreneurs can't turn our backs, tune-off for the 2-month maternity leave provided by law.  Once, in just 10 days after a C/S - I was back in the office (after a week's stay in the hospital).
How have I coped through 3 kids? 

I am sure you have done these too, but let's share.

1st, plan ahead.   Like, I hire the midwife yaya 2 months ahead.  Gives me time to assess her, get her familiarized with our home systems, get her trained & assessed by my mom & our old yaya (the 1 who brought us siblings up & still stays with our mom). Any small doubt about her, fire and re-hire.
So, by the time I deliver, planchado na, and someone familiar &  trained to our ways already attends to my needs in the hospital. 

2nd.  Have home management systems in place. Predictability of routines iron out a lot of stress.  I have a ton of lists that guide and control my house staff of 7.  The confusion is eliminated , and the lists keep them efficient and not getting stressed.  Of course, it takes time to make them understand their respective task lists -- but it works out eventually for everyone's benefit.   
I run my home like a corporate office. 

3rd. Train your kids to attend to their needs, to be mindful, to be independent.  Even toddlers can be trained.  Starting them off early, while they are eager to mimic what we do (putting away our stuff, being neat at the table, dressing ourselves, etc) --  requires patience, sure -- but pays off later with kids who need no alalays, or are organized. 

As my kids grow, and gain more independence -- I am able to cut down on my home staff. I used to have 9. I am now down to 6.  My dream is to be down to 4. 

4th.    What attitudes, aspirations, etc the domestic workforce now possess -- I don't want to delve into, I am not a sociologist.  But 1 thing I know:  money is the common dialect.  Whatever I want, I gotta pay up. True: I get what I pay for.   No judgment, it  is what it is:  the forces of Supply & Demand at work.  I do not run out of applicants with above average skills because I offer above average pay, not benefits.  not that I have no budget -- but I forego certain unnecessary expenditures to put in high pays that benefit my family more. 

Where do I source my efficient staff? I never run out of qualified applicants.  Kaya mabilis ako mag fire pag tumigas na ulo.
 For child care:  it started with a midwife hired from St.Luke's.  Tapos, referrals na. St.Luke's din.    Nowadays, it is easier to get underboard nurses or midwives.  Ordinary maids do not like toddlers - malikot kasi. 
For house staff:  referrals from our old staff of my mom's.  They refer, then refer, etc.  I am not the easiest of employers, I have a rep among our families' domestics for being strict and suplada. But in a heartbeat, they will work for me. Because of the high pay and my systems.  Basta daw they follow "mga listahan" - I leave them alone to work in peace (mahirap naka tutok na amo nga naman) and let them do their manis and pedis etc AFTER work is done.
(Lol, madalas I come in tired from work.  Ma'am Eto dvd maganda! Panoorin nyo, tapos na namin. Lol - they give a list of DVDs they give my driver to buy at Metrowalk when I am tied up at meetings. Charge to me. Ka loka. Now, I say: hindi na, blu Ray na Ko. Sagot: kami din ma'am, please.  Tse)

It's a tough world of balancing for us working moms, but we just gotta adapt

I discourage people from hiring from agencies.
The maids themselves scorn their colleagues who resort to agencies to get employed -- it means nobody wants to refer her or take her on - hindi maganda ugali or work ethics.
Give your maid load to ask around sa mga friends and relatives nya -- that's the better recruitment agency

Good luck with your search.

nicoletta

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Re: Yaya Problems: Should we keep her or let go?
« Reply #4 on: June 01, 2015, 06:51:40 pm »
What would be considered above average wage for a house girl or all around maid?  Just curious because so far I am happy with our maids, and I want to be at par, or go beyond what most employers offer pero wag naman sobra sobra.  We are after all a young family and hindi pa naman excessive ang income. 

 

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