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j.adore

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Re: English speaking KIDS
« Reply #20 on: August 29, 2014, 12:35:54 pm »
From day 1, have one person speak to the child in English then the other in Tagalog. If done strictly and consistently, the child will be fluent at both.

You can even add other languages or dialects basta no fail na yun ang gamit ng isang tao sa bata.



To answer how it's possible, English is the only language at home, shows watched are in English. Playmates speak English.

mayshiem

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Re: English speaking KIDS
« Reply #21 on: September 08, 2014, 01:43:55 pm »
That's one of my dilemma din. Kasi my kid(3 yrs old) only speaks English dahil sa TV shows and CDs na pinapanood nya and she understands bisaya (we are in Metro Manila). wala talaga nagtatagalog at home kasi all of us are bisaya. As much as I want her to learn tagalog by letting her watch Pinoy shows medyo na-natturn off po ako kasi kahit nga noon time shows may bastos pa din minsan. Even [textspeak!] mga bida bata, may love-team na. So mahirap talaga.

Pero I find it unfair na you tag the family as pasosyal if they speak in English.

Kami din naman grew up na English lang and we were able to adapt and ok naman kami. :)

I find it beneficial naman din if your kid speaks English kasi when we go out of the country madali lang sya makapagkaibagan at nagkakaintindihan sila ng mga tao. But yes tagalog is important kasi nga subject sa school yan eh and nasa Pinas pa din kami.

langley

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Re: English speaking KIDS
« Reply #22 on: September 18, 2014, 04:41:49 pm »
Para sa'kin arte lang yan pa-English English ng mga bata.

Nasa Pilipinas ka eh.

Tingnan mo nga ang ibang magulang kinakausap sa English ang mga anak pero pag mga katulong Tagalog?
Para na rin nilang pinalabas na ang Tagalog na salita ay para lang sa mahihirap.

May superiority complex.

Dito samin one time may dumating na mayamang bata na English speaking. Walang gustong makipaglaro sa kanya kasi hindi siya maintindihan dahil sa kaka Ingles niya. Kawawang bata, sa mayayaman lang pwede makipaglaro.

twelvth_goddess

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Re: English speaking KIDS
« Reply #23 on: September 18, 2014, 06:22:35 pm »
^I beg to disagree na 'pinapalabas' na pangmahirap lang ang Tagalog.

If the parents speak to the helpers in English or even force the helpers to speak in English, won't helpers find it difficult to express themselves? Magkakaron ba ng clear communication or mas magkakaron ng miscommunication?

Wala naman sigurong nagsasabe dito na pangmahirap ang Tagalog, but if that's your opinion, so be it. As a parent, I speak to my daughter in English. When I still had a yaya, I asked her to speak to my daughter in Filipino because my goal is to expose my daughter in both languages. Mas ok na Tagalog and English ang alam kesa pilitin si yaya mag-English at mali-mali ang ma-pick up ng anak ko. That's a reality, hinde pangmamata yan. It is also not a requirement for our helpers to know how to speak in English.

Although I would have to agree with you na pag ang bata hinde marunong mag-Tagalog, minsan iniiwasan ng iba. Dapat naman kase marunong magTagalog kase Pilipino naman tayo. Some parents are proud though to say na hinde marunong mag-Tagalog ang anak nila. THAT, I find superficial. But to say that pag nage-English ang bata eh kaartehan lang, I think that is also a shallow thing to say. And that's just my opinion.

cheezecake

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Re: English speaking KIDS
« Reply #24 on: September 18, 2014, 06:36:12 pm »
nung panahon natin sosyal ang english speaking na bata dahil BATIBOT ang pinapanood natin ngayon na CARTOON NETWORK, DISNEY CHANNEL, YOUTUBE etc etc hindi na nakakapagtaka kung english ang alam ng mga bata.

^pang mayaman o pang mahirap?  hindi naman yun ang sukatan ng status ng family.

twelvth_goddess

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Re: English speaking KIDS
« Reply #25 on: September 18, 2014, 07:29:42 pm »
^I was quoting and replying to the post above me. I didn't say that language is a sukatan ng status ng family.

langley

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Re: English speaking KIDS
« Reply #26 on: September 18, 2014, 08:45:57 pm »
Wala naman sigurong nagsasabe dito na pangmahirap ang Tagalog, but if that's your opinion, so be it.

Then bakit hindi mo kausapin sa Tagalog ang anak mo? Bakit kailangan sa katulong niya matutunan ang Tagalog kung pwede naman sa'yo din niya matutunan 'yun? Hindi ko lang maintindihan.

twelvth_goddess

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Re: English speaking KIDS
« Reply #27 on: September 18, 2014, 09:21:03 pm »
I do not rely on my helper to teach her Tagalog. Wala akong sinabeng ganon, that was your impression. We speak to her in both English and Tagalog, never a combination of two. Just because I speak to her mostly in English doesn't mean hinde oo sya kinakausap ng Tagalog. Obviously you don't rely on your helpers to teach your kids, anjan lang sila para mag-assist. Sino bang eng-eng ang umaasa sa maid na magturo sa anak nila?

My daughter knows how to speak both languages. Don't generalize people just because of your misconceptions.
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chiqmom

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Re: English speaking KIDS
« Reply #28 on: September 18, 2014, 10:03:31 pm »
For me, mas okay na turuan yung bata sa dialect na ginagamit sa bahay, a dialect that everyone feels comfortable of. How could you expect the kids to learn something when the mother or dad could not even express their thoughts properly?


Priceless

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Re: English speaking KIDS
« Reply #29 on: September 19, 2014, 10:01:17 am »
Isn't it better to teach a child both English and Tagalog (and whatever else language applicable to his/her circumstances) and be confident in conversing in both? That also includes using the appropriate language, words, tone, etc - at whatever the situation calls for. I would rather teach my son to talk in English, or speak in Tagalog if someone prefers conversing with him in that language. What's important is that he knows and is comfortable in speaking both, and he is able to communicate his thoughts, ideas, feelings, etc clearly.

Just because someone is more confident, more eloquent, more fluent in a language, whether it be Tagalog or English, whether they can make friends faster or slower than others, whether they have traveled the world even before they're turned five - it doesn't mean na they think of themselves as "superior" kaagad or that they are matapobre and think less of others who can't express themselves properly. Any pre-judgements, generalizations, misconceptions to this effect actually speak more of one's own inferiority complex and insecurities more than anything else.


-munchkins12-

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Re: English speaking KIDS
« Reply #30 on: September 19, 2014, 10:21:15 am »
Share ko lang, my hubby's pamangkin learned english from watching disney channel alone. Pero  tagalog naman yung parents nya. Medyo late raw siya nakapagsalita maybe siguro nalito siya from english and tagalog. Pero she eventually learned tagalog when they transferred house. Pero slang pa rin siya pag nag english. :)

twelvth_goddess

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Re: English speaking KIDS
« Reply #31 on: September 19, 2014, 02:22:29 pm »
Any pre-judgements, generalizations, misconceptions to this effect actually speak more of one's own inferiority complex and insecurities more than anything else.

Completely agree.

chiqmom

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Re: English speaking KIDS
« Reply #32 on: September 19, 2014, 02:38:32 pm »
Isn't it better to teach a child both English and Tagalog (and whatever else language applicable to his/her circumstances) and be confident in conversing in both? That also includes using the appropriate language, words, tone, etc - at whatever the situation calls for.

Yes I agree. My kids speak Tagalog and Bikolano dialects. They understand and speak English but they don't use it as their primary communication language. They learned English from watching cartoon shows, reading books, and from school. I didnt impose the language to them but they eventually learned it.

I guess people are intelligent creatures, specially kids. They will adapt to any language when necessary. As I read before, kids' brains are like sponge. And besides, I believe in their potentials.

I do not like to put a barricade and just let them learn a single language. After all, I always find a multilingual to be intelligent. 

cheezecake

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Re: English speaking KIDS
« Reply #33 on: September 19, 2014, 04:08:34 pm »
yang mga TV channels naman talaga ang main reasons bakit mahilig mag english ang mga kids ngayon I just dont know why others cant accept it. Isipin na lang natin if you switch on your TV ilan ang local ilan ang international channels.  Yung anak ko nga ang mga expressions pang international minsan naloloka na ako but I guess yun ang kapalit ng pagiging expose sa international channels and youtube.

stacies83221

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Re: English speaking KIDS
« Reply #34 on: September 19, 2014, 04:30:11 pm »
Yes I agree. My kids speak Tagalog and Bikolano dialects. They understand and speak English but they don't use it as their primary communication language. They learned English from watching cartoon shows, reading books, and from school. I didnt impose the language to them but they eventually learned it.

I guess people are intelligent creatures, specially kids. They will adapt to any language when necessary. As I read before, kids' brains are like sponge. And besides, I believe in their potentials.

I do not like to put a barricade and just let them learn a single language. After all, I always find a multilingual to be intelligent. 


Hi chiqmom. I think i can learn something from here. My baby is born here and my husband and I agreed that we will be teaching her Tagalog as her first language. Whenever I sing to her in English, she seem to respond to it too. Soon she will go to a daycare center and learn the local language here. I am just concerned that she will get confused and use all 3 languages in one sentence like the other Filipino kids who have Pinoy parents but born here. Though it sounds cute when you hear them talk, I don't want my daughter to learn that mixing languages is an option. Whenever I speak to her, it is either tagalog or english and never taglish. Did you ever experience your kids got confused or mixed dialect/ language?

chiqmom

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Re: English speaking KIDS
« Reply #35 on: September 19, 2014, 04:47:38 pm »
^They never had a hard time distinguishing which is which. Alam nila if it is English or Tagalog. They are elementary students now and they are doing good at school. Lately when DEPED imposed the Mother Tongue, that's the only time they start asking. Medyo nakakalito din kasi ang dialects ng Tagalog and Bikolano. So they would ask if its Tagalog or Bikolano. But with the case of English and Tagalog, hindi sila nagtanong. Hope this helps.

stacies83221

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Re: English speaking KIDS
« Reply #36 on: September 19, 2014, 11:15:18 pm »
^thanks sis! Sa bahay nyo ba, nagsasalita kayo ng tagalog or bisaya or english lang? I am asking kasi iniisip ko if pwedeng tagalog and english yung ituro namin dito sa bahay kasi sigurado ako na matututo sya ng language dito.

Angelite

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Re: English speaking KIDS
« Reply #37 on: September 24, 2014, 08:52:24 pm »
My kid knows both Tagalog and English. I think lang na it is important that at early stage eh maging comfortable sya sa English. Ang daming nag-aapply ng work (not necessarily for call centers) pero di natatanggap kahit magaling kasi hindi na maexpress ang sarili pag English na ang gamit.

tiggerlily

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Re: English speaking KIDS
« Reply #38 on: October 05, 2014, 05:56:00 pm »
my son's native tongue is english. I figured it would be easier to learn tagalog when he gets to school. ganun kasi ang nakalakihan ko. native tongue tagalog and then later na ang english. pero yung panahon ngayon, parang di na pwede yun ganun e.

mas ok na rin na english ang nakasanayan ng anak ko. kasi hindi na rin naman purely tagalog ang mga makakausap mo ngayon. halo halo na. may beki/jeje language pa. he can speak straight english na. with tagalog hirap, bulol pero unti unti namin itinatama. mahirap din naman kasi magstraight tagalog. ang problem ko lang with teaching tagalog is that I'm not too fluent with the language at ang papangit ng mga filipino books natin. only tagalog storybooks ang aasahan mo.

I wanted for him to learn both. the more language a person knows, mas naistimulate ang brain activity. kaya pati chinese noon pinangarap ko rin. pero since wala akong alam doon at mas malapit ang spanish, spanish na nga rin lang. kahit puros counting lang ang alam ko from chinese and spanish.

although my son understands tagalog hindi lang nya maexpress sarili nya in tagalog.

chiqmom

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Re: English speaking KIDS
« Reply #39 on: October 05, 2014, 06:26:36 pm »
^thanks sis! Sa bahay nyo ba, nagsasalita kayo ng tagalog or bisaya or english lang? I am asking kasi iniisip ko if pwedeng tagalog and english yung ituro namin dito sa bahay kasi sigurado ako na matututo sya ng language dito.

When they were little, we talk to them in Tagalog and yes, English pero seldom lang. Ngayon na they are older na, we speak to them even in Bicolano dialect. :)

 

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