Vhong Navarro (Thread 3)

[happyfemme]

Baka sabihin nila photoshopped na raw yun!   

Or baka sabihin nila "Pirated yung CCTV" Quiapo edition.

[izabelle]

Kahit anong network pa yan, trabaho nila to protect their talent. Ngayon nasa tao na yan kung kanino sila maniniwala.

Kasi kahit anong protection ang ibigay ng network kung sadyang sablay ang isang artista, sablay talaga. Again nasa nakakarami na yan, kung makukuha sympathy nila.

EVEN BEFORE the "psychologist" analysis, sirang sira na ang reputation ni DC and CL. Nung pinakita palang ng NBI ang kuha sa cctv wala na agad credibility ang mga yan. Alangan naman kasalanan pa ng CCTV yon. Dagdag nalang yung sinasabi ng psychologist. Pero i think kahit wala yon, mahirap maniwala kay DC and CL.

[foxyhauteur]

Wala namang kaso sakin kung biased ang ABS. Talent nila si Vhong at siguro naniniwala sila na cheater lang si Vhong at hindi rapist. Nung talent naman nila si Baron Geisler hindi sila ganyan siguro dahil alam nila na hindi malayong magawa ni Baron yon.

Si Boy Abunda dalawang linggo na nananawagan sa kampo ni Deniece at Cedric pero hindi naman sila nagrerespond. Dahil ba takot si Deniece magisa ni Boy Abunda? Dahil ba ang gusto nya lang sagutin ay pre-approved questions? Dahil kahit retired na si lolo Rod Cornejo nya sa GMA ay kahit papano may connections pa rin to?

In the end, korte naman magdedecide. May kanya-kanyang opinion mga tao, kung talagang nagsasabi sya ng totoo painterview sya kay Tito Boy. Di hamak na mas malawak ang network ng ABS lalo na sa provinces.

Personally, hindi talaga ako mamotivate ni Deniece na maniwala sa kanya. Kung pano nya pa lang naconvince yung Malaysian na patirahin sya sa condo very suspicious na eh.. Yung Dark Closet na business nya kaduda-duda din yung authenticity... Yung statements nya vs CCTV.. Etc.

Si Vhong babaero pero ngayon lang sya nainvolve sa ganitong scandal. Nasan na yung mga narape daw nya? Lumabas yung CCTV nanahimik sila.

[BDJ]

Swerte lang ni Vhong Navarro na overlook yung mali niya which is the usual showbiz issue lang naman. Ngayon of course mas focus ang mga tao sa investigation rather than sa kung ano pinagmulan talaga nito.

Inaabangan ko na lang kung paano ito ichachallenge ni Atty. Fortun  ang kalaban niya at mga malilinaw na evidence.

[hunny_ally]

true on networks protecting on your talents. In a way, assets yan ng isang company. An example would be GMA's stance on the Katrina Halili issue before.

Like what I said, maybe a behavioral psychologist's opinion would have more bearing or would have a bigger impact if hindi sa ABS nanggaling. Maybe from another channel or say journalist (print or online). Admittedly, maganda sana yung analysis ng expert . But yun nga, may perceived notion of bias

[izabelle]

same here, kaabang abang ang mga gagawin ni Fortun

[ginger_ale]

true on networks protecting on your talents. In a way, assets yan ng isang company. An example would be GMA's stance on the Katrina Halili issue before.

Like what I said, maybe a behavioral psychologist's opinion would have more bearing or would have a bigger impact if hindi sa ABS nanggaling. Maybe from another channel or say journalist (print or online). Admittedly, maganda sana yung analysis ng expert . But yun nga, may perceived notion of bias

agree. kawawa din yung psychologist...she spent years studying and mastering her line of work to be good at what she does, then suddenly sasabihin lang ng ilang tao na wala syang credibility or she's not good enough just because her analysis was aired on the station where one of the story's main protagonists is a talent. hindi naman siguro rabid fan lang ni vhong navarro or hater ni cedric lee yung psychologist for her to say the things she said, and for her to put her reputation on the line. i also believe that people, including CL's camp, won't say that of her kung sa ibang TV network lumabas yung interview niya...

[skylar-ddm]

Maybe sobra lang talaga support ng abs kay vhong dahil alam nila na nagsasabi sya ng totoo. Kase knowing abs, iddownplay nila yan kung guilty si vhong.

[twelvth_goddess]

I thought Globe released a statement na they couldnt retrieve the deleted messages anymore? Tapos ngayon na-retrieve na, ganon?

[ginger_ale]

^^lalo magagalit camp nina CL. marami na silang sisihin at tatawaging backers ni vhong ngayon...dati ABS, DOJ at NBI lang, ngayon pati globe na

[tiggerlily]

ano ba ito? sobrang pathetic naman talaga. kapag naman nanalo pa ang side nila DC & CL kaasar na talaga ang justice system natin dito sa bansa.

http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/nation/metro-manila/02/11/14/after-vhong-mauling-deniece-bought-laptop-editing-software

sobrang daming obvious evidences. sobrang obvious na kung sinong camp ang guilty.

at pati naman si fortun baluktot na rin mangatwiran ngayon ano? basta may maisagot nga lang talaga. ay, turn-off ako sa kanya ha. akala ko pa naman magaling sya.

[gracita13]

Tony Calvento's fb:

The NBI has retrieved the messages that were deleted. True to everything that Vhong said the messages of 'sweetie' the invitation to go to condo were there.
What was perplexing was the fact that after Vhong left the condo the group of Cedric came a few minutes after, missing Vhong by a hairline. Who informed them? The guard? Deniece? Bernice was also with them.
Vhong was fetched by Deniece outside the condo by the guard house to allow him entry into the condo.
Vhong passed the same way thorough the garden then swimming pool and finally left Forbeswood.
After that he started receiving text messages 'bad boy ka'.
The rest you already know.

[izabelle]

I don't understand bakit sasabihin na maraming "kampi" or backer si Vhong.. Just because lahat ng evidences ay pabor sa kanya at nagmamatch sa kwento nya ibig sabihin ba non marami na syang backer?

E anong magagawa nung tao kung lahat ng sinasabi nya meron evidence?Yung kabila lahat ng sinasabi baligtad ang lumalabas? aba sisihin nila gumawa ng script nila.

Ang NBI naglabas ng CCTV at mga findings nila, tugma sa kwento ni VN, porke tugma backer na agad? Aba sorry naman, yung totoo lang pinapakita nila. Kung taliwas yon sa kwento ni CL and DC, problema na nila yon.

[rave21lala]

yung NBI naman ata ang gumawa ng paraan para maretrieve yung messages, hindi ang globe.

ano ba ito? sobrang pathetic naman talaga. kapag naman nanalo pa ang side nila DC & CL kaasar na talaga ang justice system natin dito sa bansa.

http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/nation/metro-manila/02/11/14/after-vhong-mauling-deniece-bought-laptop-editing-software

magdadahilan pa si Atty. Fortun na for photo editing ang binili ni Deniece, kung iisipin mo lang nakuha niya pa talaga bumili ng bagong laptop, akala ko ba natruama siya? at isa pa diba ang nag-eedit ng photos ng model eh yung photographer?!

Tony Calvento's fb:

The NBI has retrieved the messages that were deleted. True to everything that Vhong said the messages of 'sweetie' the invitation to go to condo were there.
What was perplexing was the fact that after Vhong left the condo the group of Cedric came a few minutes after, missing Vhong by a hairline. Who informed them? The guard? Deniece? Bernice was also with them.
Vhong was fetched by Deniece outside the condo by the guard house to allow him entry into the condo.
Vhong passed the same way thorough the garden then swimming pool and finally left Forbeswood.
After that he started receiving text messages 'bad boy ka'.
The rest you already know.

i think nung jan.17 pa lang dapat bibiktimahin na nila si Vhong. remember sabi ni Vhong nung time na "nagkukulitan" sila, lagi daw hawak ni DC yung phone niya na parang may katext? siguro yung ganong scenario ang gusto niyang mahuli sila para kunwari nirerape nga siya. yun nga lang napaaga ng konti yung alis niya. siguro hindi rin ready si DC na ipahamak si Vhong nung time na yun kasi pwede sanang pinigilan niya kahit sandali para maabutan nina CL. dapat pati yung phone ni DC icheck ng NBI. iretrieve din nila yung messages.

[loveceleen]

RE: Deleted Text Messages

Naging topic ito sa Punto Por Punto / Umagang Kay Ganda. May guests from Globe and a Tech guy (expert on smart phones). Accdg sa Globe representative, hindi daw sini-save ng Globe ang actual text messages ng mga customers, only transaction information - cell numbers, date, and time when a text message is sent or received.

Then, accdg to the Tech guy, if Vhong is using an iphone, then the deleted messages can be retrieved. May back-up ang iphone as long as hindi pa nag-sync sa computer nandoon pa din ang mga deleted text messages. Pinakita ni Tech guy yung mga steps/process how to retrieve the messages on cam. He deleted some of his own messages on his iphone. And after a few seconds he was able to recover the deleted messages. Same din daw sa mga android phones, you only need to download an app.

[izabelle]

magdadahilan pa si Atty. Fortun na for photo editing ang binili ni Deniece, kung iisipin mo lang nakuha niya pa talaga bumili ng bagong laptop, akala ko ba natruama siya? at isa pa diba ang nag-eedit ng photos ng model eh yung photographer?!

sis ibang klase nga matrauma. diba nga nakapag party party pa sa bar the day after nya ma-rape.. Ganon sya mag unwind e.

[rave21lala]

^nakakatawa nga eh! sumasakit na siguro mga ulo nina Atty. Fortun at Atty. Calleja. sige DC at CL, magsinungaling pa kayo! madadagdagan pa ng perjury mga kaso ninyo!

[izabelle]

ang depensa dyan ni fortun ay iba iba daw mag react ang tao based sa mga nangyayari sa kanila.

Siguro nga sobrang lakas ng loob ni DC kaya kahit rape victim sya party party agad the following day  

[maiandra]

Re: deleted text messages - But you have to have an app installed first before retrieving them. Eh wala naman atang ganun app sa phone ni VN.

[itsmeangel]

maybe iba iba nga ang reaction, pero magparty? bumili ng laptop? Hahaha grabe anong klaseng reaction to "trauma" yun?