Vhong Navarro (Thread 3)

[oreo08]

Ahhh kasama pala si Leasee! Well, if the Leasee did not demand for a search warrant and just let NBI do their thing, then you cant blame them nga.

[ginger_ale]

^^re: mga gamit na nasira. i don't think the camp of DC and CL can still claim that they replaced the fixtures if the owner and lessee themselves would testify that those things inside the unit belong to them at hindi kay DC. nag-aaksaya lang ng panahon magpalusot ang mga lawyers nila...

[miyam210]

  Ayan,  may lumalabas na daw na photos ng sex organ ni Vhong.  Hindi talaga siya titigilan ng mga goons na iyon. Makulong man si CL at kuneho,  sandali lang iyan pero si Vhong habambuhay na delikado na gantihan siya.  Kung ako si Vhong aalis na lang ako sa Pinas at gayahin sila David and Jessica.

http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/entertainment/02/05/14/vhongs-camp-eyes-nbi-help-abused-organ-photo

[ginger_ale]

sa isa lang tumama si fortun...dahil obvious na walang rape if they're talking about the jan. 22 incident, at obvious din na may extortion as evident dun sa bank account no. na binigay nila kay vhong na pag-aari ni DC...

ano bang nangyayari dito kay fortun? spokesperson lang pala sya eh kung magbigay ng opinyon parang sya ang lead counsel...magkano kaya PF nito kay CL?

[KVsWahmmy]

According to Atty Fortun, his 'tipping point' daw was when he watched the psychologist interpreting the actions of DC and CL, na the network daw was using its powers to sway public opinion on the matter. Dun daw uminit ang ulo nya.

I say...does public opinion really matter on this? It's a criminal case. The public will speculate, judge, throw comments all they want, but nothing that they say will matter in the trial - unless they offer evidence, unless they are witnesses to the crime.

I don't know much about him, but I think he's a good photographer - I think that's what 'softened' his image as a lawyer. He defended former Pres. Joseph Estrada pala, which says something. He said he likes defending the underdog daw, which in this case he thinks is CL. Well ok, being the underdog does not mean he's not guilty. Anyway, at least masasabi kong he's being 'real'.I don't think most lawyers choose their cases based on guilt or innocence, especially the big, popular ones like Atty Fortun. It's a 'juicy case' eh, irresistible. Hehe. If he wins the case for CL, well he'll prove he's a good lawyer - and bigwigs will keep his name in mind lalo.  -UPDATE, aba e spokesperson lang pala - weeeeeh. Maybe he can see that's not Atty Calleja's forte, so yun daw ang role nya. Not for the money? Really now? Well then in the future, I hope he does it for other slighted individuals who do not have companies and billions to their name. Maybe then we'll know, it really wasn't for the money.

Good point yan sis hunny_ally, the NBI had the owners and lessee of the unit give permission - anong illegal doon?

I can already imagine the court trial. Dadalihin sina Vhong sa technicalities - loopholes sa batas ang gagamitin - and yes they can say they're not twisting the truth - they're just going to divert the attention away from it. Kalurkey.

[ginger_ale]

^kaya nga, mas mabuti nang maaga nilabas ang CCTV...kasi kung pinatagal pa nila magkakaron pa sila ng reason sabihin na, ang tagal naman siguro na-tamper na yung CCTV

[ginger_ale]

According to Atty Fortun, his 'tipping point' daw was when he watched the psychologist interpreting the actions of DC and CL, na the network daw was using its powers to sway public opinion on the matter. Dun daw uminit ang ulo nya.

I say...does public opinion really matter on this? It's a criminal case. The public will speculate, judge, throw comments all they want, but nothing that they say will matter in the trial - unless they offer evidence, unless they are witnesses to the crime.

I don't know much about him, but I think he's a good photographer - I think that's what 'softened' his image as a lawyer. He defended former Pres. Joseph Estrada pala, which says something. He said he likes defending the underdog daw, which in this case he thinks is CL. Well ok, being the underdog does not mean he's not guilty. Anyway, at least masasabi kong he's being 'real'.I don't think most lawyers choose their cases based on guilt or innocence, especially the big, popular ones like Atty Fortun. It's a 'juicy case' eh, irresistible. Hehe. If he wins the case for CL, well he'll prove he's a good lawyer - and bigwigs will keep his name in mind lalo.  -UPDATE, aba e spokesperson lang pala - weeeeeh. Maybe he can see that's not Atty Calleja's forte, so yun daw ang role nya. Not for the money? Really now? Well then in the future, I hope he does it for other slighted individuals who do not have companies and billions to their name. Maybe then we'll know, it really wasn't for the money.

Good point yan sis hunny_ally, the NBI had the owners and lessee of the unit give permission - anong illegal doon?

I can already imagine the court trial. Dadalihin sina Vhong sa technicalities - loopholes sa batas ang gagamitin - and yes they can say they're not twisting the truth - they're just going to divert the attention away from it. Kalurkey.

well said i also don't know why fortun is concerned about public opinion, hindi naman 'to image or PR war...the courts will decide based on evidence and merits of the case and not on what the public has to say about the issue. ang dating niya saken nakikisakay lang sya sa very controversial case na 'to. parang nawawala na kasi sya sa eksena so gustong magparamdam. at pa-hero effect at that

[prix]

Sana matapos na ang isyung ito! gaano kaya katagal bago maakusahan ang tunay na may sala? kitang kita naman kung kanino pumapanig ang mga ebidensya. For sure hindi gagawa ang abogado ni Vhong ng hakbang na siguradong ikalalaglag nila sa korte at sa abogado naman ni Deniece dapat hindi na lang din nya hinahayaang magsalita si Deniece kasi pa-iba iba sya ng sinasabi, ikakatalo pa talaga nila iyon. Si Vhong once lang nagsalita unlike kila DC & CL marami na silang sinabi sa media na hindi nila pwedeng baguhin pag nakasalang na sila sa korte. Buti na lang pumayag yung may-ari ng condo & nung unit na pabuksan ang kwarto nakita ng lahat na walang nasira sa mga gamit & hindi magulo yung kwarto. Kung nilinis man nila yung kwarto tama yung sinabi ng lawyer ni Vhong na parang mas pabor sa kanila yun kasi bakit kailangang linisin para walang ebidensya? & sila ang biktima kaya dapat hindi nila ipagalaw yun. Kapag natapos ang isyung ito at natalo sila DC & CL sira ang career & business nila pati kredibilidad ng lawyer & spokesperson wala na. Sana nga hindi lang pera pera ang labanan dito sana lumabas ang tunay na hustisya. Kay Vhong naman hindi nya na alam ngayon kung kailan pa sya safe pati ang pamilya nya. Kahit siguro magpunta pa sya ng ibang bansa kapag nakulong si CL hindi pa rin sya patatahimikan ng mga ito.. tsk! tsk!

[solepurplelife]

Bakit kelangan ng spokesperson? Ee kung makapag painterview nga itong si DC sa kung saan-saang show wagas, tapos ngayon may spokesperson pa? Lol

[izabelle]

Atty Fortun... I idolized him as a lawyer pero now, i feel very disappointed that he is siding the other camp... NOT because im pro Vhong.. but because i just cant see the point bakit nya sinasabi na under dog si CL..

jusko, underdog ba yon??? seriously.. sa dami ng cases nya before na nambugbog sya.. 

[solepurplelife]

And can I just say na hindi porket underdog yun na dapat ang kampihan mo. Hindi ba dapat dun sya sa kung saan tingin nya nasa tama? Parang hindi naman sya lawyer nyan. Kapag naging hukom kaya sya? Yung underdog din yung papanigan nya, without considering kung sino ba ang nagsasabi ng totoo?

[izabelle]

^ true..

pero hindi ko talaga magets saan nanggaling na underdog si CL. Grabe talaga, yun underdog? 

[KVsWahmmy]

Underdog daw si CL dahil two big guns are 'backing' VN - ABSCBN and NBI.

Well it's not like CL and DC are not being given airtime. Nagkakataon lang talagang walang ipinapahiwatig na katotohanan yung dalawa sa lahat ng interview, and wala nang magagawa ang mga networks dun. GMA man yan o ABSCBN. And yun nga.... news coverage wouldn't matter in court. Sasabihin ba ng judge, "sabi ng psychologist sa ABSCBN interview, nagsinungaling ka daw"? Di ba hindi naman? Di bale sana kung jury system tayo dito. Baka dun pa magmatter ang opinion ng publiko. Kaso hindi naman.

If Fortun did not take on big or controversial cases, he wouldn't be THE Atty. Fortun we know now. He'd be just your everyday lawyer. Even if he is a good lawyer (good in terms of having the ability to win a case), kung di sya kukuha or kahit sasawsaw sa isang kasong popular, paano sya makikilala. This is his 'hello-im-back' statement. If he is going to be the 'mouthpiece' of CL's camp, I'm sure he is going to sound brilliant, some people may actually be swayed by him. And so even if they lose the case, he 'wins'.

More and more people are hating on CL not because he beat up VN...but because it turns out he had done it to others before and had gotten away with it more than once. And with all his shady deals in the past, well he's not exactly the kind of 'superhero' he was trying to 'portray' in this case.

[crazy_krizsa]

Expected na madami ng sawsaw sa issue na to. I just hope maparusahan ang dapat maparusahan. Pano naman naging underdog si CL? eh sya nga tong nambugbog at madaming connections. Haay... Atty. Fortun nanahimik ka na lang sana at nag concentrate sa photography mo kung spokeperson lang naman ang peg mo sa case na to.

[Giri]

More and more people are hating on CL not because he beat up VN...but because it turns out he had done it to others before and had gotten away with it more than once. And with all his shady deals in the past, well he's not exactly the kind of 'superhero' he was trying to 'portray' in this case.

Yup,hindi naman ito tungkol lang kay vhong, the main issue here is cedric, kailangang matapos na ang pangbu-bully niya at yung illegal business niyang extortion at panunuhol.

[twelvth_goddess]

^I hope he is taken to a safe and secured place.

[SnowBall]

natatakot ako for Vhong, sabi ng husband ko, feeling daw niya, hindi titigil si Cedric Lee na hindi siya napapatay.

hay, ang hirap ng kalagayan ni Vhong, manalo matalo siya sa kaso, palaging may naka ambang panganib sa kanya, malaki ang nabangga niya

[aicute12]

buti naman at nakalabas na siya. at ok na ulit ang face niya

[izabelle]

More and more people are hating on CL not because he beat up VN...but because it turns out he had done it to others before and had gotten away with it more than once. And with all his shady deals in the past, well he's not exactly the kind of 'superhero' he was trying to 'portray' in this case.

Exactly. This is not about Vhong..

Kung sana lang kahit isa sa mga sinabi nila CL and DC sa interview e nagtugma sa mga evidence na pinakita, siguro makukuha nila ang sympathy ng public. Pero hindi e.. Yun kasi nagiging basehan ng tao sa opinyon nila.

Ok lang sana kung isa lang hindi tugma pero parang lahat taliwas sa sinasabi nila. tapos yung mga palusot ang BS lang. Parang ginagawang engot ang mga nanonood.

Isa pa, malaking factor talaga na maraming history itong si CL ng ganyan. Even Vina Morales e dinemanda sya, so how can you get the sympathy of public ngayon? E meron na syang reputation na ganyan. Alangan naman lahat yong issues before hindi totoo.

Huwag nila isisi lahat sa media ang pagkasira ng reputation nila, sila mismo ang gumawa non. Walang nag utos sa kanila na sabihin ang mga salita na lumabas sa bibig nila. Sorry nalang at taliwas sinasabi nila sa evidence.

[Girltalker2]

Bakit kelangan ng spokesperson? Ee kung makapag painterview nga itong si DC sa kung saan-saang show wagas, tapos ngayon may spokesperson pa? Lol

Baka iniisip nitong Fortun na ito baka "makalibre" din sya kay CL. ...   

Huwag nila isisi lahat sa media ang pagkasira ng reputation nila, sila mismo ang gumawa non. Walang nag utos sa kanila na sabihin ang mga salita na lumabas sa bibig nila. Sorry nalang at taliwas sinasabi nila sa evidence.

Agree sis.  In fact, kapag i-assess mo, itong si CL ang mega pa interview TRYING TO GET THE PUBLIC's SYMPATHY.  Sya mismo ang nagpasimuno kasi nung 1 interview lang kay Vhong, ang dami nang umalma. Pero sya, sige pa interview to salvage her reputation but to her detriment, mas lalong nagworse ang situation for her kasi obvious na she is just fabricating stories.

Naging underdog sya, nabuking sya, napahamak sya sa gulo na iyan, all because of her own doing. Kaya huwag nya isisi iyan sa ibang tao.