Breatfeeding

[razer]

Hi mga sis, ask ko lang..I gave birth oct 30 and stayed in the hospital for 4 days, during those times, i tried mag breast feed but wala pa milk lumabas. My baby was left for care in the hospital and stayed the for another 5 days. I wasn't able to visit kasi CS ako and can't travel everyday so hindi na ko nakipag breast feed that time. Until now when I try I feed si baby, ayaw nya mag suck..wala p din ako milk. Any way maka pag breast feed pa ko? Hindi na ba super late, 19 days na since i gave birth..ano po pwede ko gawin para magkaron ako ng milk?

Thanks mga sis!

[popi]

Ako din sis, walang milk pagkapanganak.  tinyaga naming na every 3 hrs, pag suck si baby, tapos alternate ng pump.

After 3 days, nagkaron na ng milk

[razer]

sis, after 3 days ng pagka-panganak mo nagkaron ka na ng milk? ako kasi, 19 days na...am losing hope

[khrysiesomuch]

sis, after 3 days ng pagka-panganak mo nagkaron ka na ng milk? ako kasi, 19 days na...am losing hope

hi sis, this was based on my sister's story, 2 weeks siya nagkaroon ng milk. CS din kasi siya. Latching and Natalac yung ginamit niya for her baby. She also tried malunggay, every meal niya may malunggay. May FB group na tumutulong sa mga mothers on their questions about breastfeeding. Preggy pa kasi ako kaya hindi ako makasagot. Yung experience lang nung sister ko yung kaya kong i-share.

eto pala yung FB page: You can ask questions to them and marami yung nagrerespond sa questions mo dun kung about breastfeeding

https://www.facebook.com/groups/breastfeedingpinays/

[shenshen8]

Mga sis, sana nag-read up kayo about breastfeeding before giving birth were the babies given formula sa hospital because you thought wala kayo milk? kawawa naman babies niyo
Sa first few days (1-3), wala talaga lalabas kasi Colostrum pa ang meron ka. It's very little and very precious. Si baby lang kaya kumuha nun via direct proper latch. Super important nun
After a few days pa yung mature milk lalabas and usually wala or drops if you try to pump. pero meron yan as long as you continually feed directly kasi mas magaling suction ng baby. The more you feed directly the more milk your body produces. If hindi kayo nagllatch and direct feed iisipin ng body mo you dont need milk and hihina talaga supply mo.
Actually unless your baby is physically unable to direct latch, you should not pump before 6 weeks. Maraming reasons yan bakit.
The most important: Do not doubt your supply. You have milk. Latch lang ng latch and count baby's peeingthat show they're getting enough nutrition.
Joing breastfeeding pinays on FB

[popi]

sis, after 3 days ng pagka-panganak mo nagkaron ka na ng milk? ako kasi, 19 days na...am losing hope

My OB prescribed NUMOMS - it's a pill na food supplement, made of malunggay with folic acid.

Emergency CS din ako at 38 weeks

[khrysiesomuch]

Available ba sis popi sa drugstore?

[BDJ]

Good thing there is a thread like this. I am wondering kung kailan ba usually mag lactate ang breast mo? During pregnancy ba or after giving birth?

Ito ang isang bagay na kaya hindi pa ako nag aavail ng electric breast pump saka ng bottle warmer siempre I don't know the result yet.

[chubbycheeks]

^ after giving birth, sis. Hold off buying a pump for a month until you're sure may flow.

[Queen Chokolah]

^^In my case on the 3rd day after giving birth pako nag lactate. I was not worried kasi prior to giving birth, mega research talaga ko about breastfeeding and i was more than determined. I knew about colostrum din. My pedia was a little concerned though, sabi niya if by 3rd day wala pa maybe we need to supplement the baby na daw kasi he was small at birth 5 lbs lang, but otherwise healthy. Tinyaga ko talaga magpalatch every 2-3 hours. Good thing there was no problem sa latching, nasa recovery room pa lang kami marunong na sya. Todo dasal din ako na may lumabas na kasi ayoko talaga mag supplement. Ayun buti naman nag lactate nako on 3rd day. I've read somewhere na may reserves pa daw si baby, kaya niya pa mag survive first few days without milk. And besides, in the first few days, sobrang liit pa ng tyan ng babies na colostrum lang talaga ang kasya.

Re pumping i started pumping at 3 weeks. Kasi i need to train my baby to bottle feed during daytime cos i will be returning to work after my ML. Direct feeding should be established first before you try to bottle feed to avoid nipple confusion. This usually happens at 3-4 weeks. I think established na din naman kami at 3 weeks. When i tried to feed him through bottle, nung una inayawan niya. But on my second try dumede na. Medyo katakot din kasi baka direct feeding naman i refuse niya. Pero buti hindi naman. In short, kahit ano basta may gatas lumalabas go sya. Lol.

My suggestion would be, buy a pump before giving birth, yung not so expensive lang muna and manual. I recommend farlin. 700+ lang sya at okay ang performance. Yun pa rin gamit ko now. Sa aug pako bibili ng electric.

Re milk, meron at meron tayong milk (extremely rare case ang walang milk, usually may medical condition).

Sa 19 days at di mag latch si baby, mahirap, kasi you can only produce milk kung nag lalatch si baby sayo. Im not sure about this pero ive read in another thread na when her baby wasnt able to latch, what helped her produce milk was her electric pump. At least to signal the body that it needs to produce milk. It makes sense, kasi nabasa ko naman na if you're pumping at naubos ang milk sa breast mo, the body will think you need more milk kaga mag produce sya. Make sure lang ubos (or almost) ang milk both breasts. So hindi lang si baby ang makakagawa nito. Although a baby's suck is still the most effective method. if ayaw talaga mag latch, better to feed him with your expressed breastmilk muna (kung meron na) rather than formula. Pero try pa din ng try magpa latch.

On latching and nipple confusion, bad talaga pag napa feed na si baby through bottle on the first days. Kasi more likely refuse niya talaga breast mo. Kaya malaki din ang role ng hospitals dito. Merong kahit anong sabi mong no bottles, matigas ulo nila. It really helps if you can find a breastfeeding-advocate hospitals. I gave birth at SLMC pala and they're really strict about this. You need to BF talaga. Or atleast try. It really helped. Di kami nahirapan ng anak ko on latching. They have lactation consultants din to assist you if you're having trouble.

[bagaholic_chewy]

I bought my Medela pump while preggy. In-instill ko kasi talaga sa mind ko na "I will and I can breastfeed". 8 months preggy, nag-start na ako take ng malunggay capsules as supplement, based na din sa reco ng isang friend ko na nauna nanganak sa akin. Naisip ko nga medyo risky, kasi pano pag wala ako milk, sayang ang pump. Buti naman at nagka-milk ako. Thank you, Lord!

Pagkapanganak, paglabas ni baby, pina-latch na agad sa akin sa OR/DR pa lang. Although, parang dinilaan lang ni baby yung nipple, LOL, di talaga sya nag-latch. Pero nung nasa recovery room na, ina-assist talaga ng nurse na magpa-latch kay baby every 2-3hrs. Kaya kahit medyo groggy pa ako sa anesthesia e go lang ng go, pina-latch talaga si baby. Kahit nung nasa room na, nagre-remind talaga ang nurses. And pag nag-rounds ang Doctors, nire-remind din nila yung importance ng pagla-latch. Important din daw kasi yung first days because of the colostrum, which is essential daw for baby to strengthen his/her immune system (or something like that, hehe).

Dinalhan din ako ng lapu-lapu soup sa hospital ng MIL ko, ok din daw yun for milk production. Then pagkauwi, me sabaw kami daily (tinola, sinigang, nilaga, etc). And tuloy-tuloy lang din malunggay capsules ko (2 capsules/day since 8mos preggy, then ginawa ko 4 capsules/day nung nag-5wks si baby kasi nag-start na din ako mag-pump).

I educated myself talaga about breastfeeding kasi desidido talaga ako (I read articles online, asked friends who are breastfeeding, etc). I also attended a Breastfeeding seminar sa Medela House. Now naman, I ordered some lactation snacks from Mommy Treats (cookies, muffins, etc). Hopefully makatulong din sa milk production ko para mapabilis pag-buildup ko ng stored breastmilk.

I introduced the bottle to baby on her 5th week. I used the Medela bottle and Calma teat kasi yung Calma teat para syang nips ng Mommy na kelangan effort-an ni baby para makakuha sya ng milk. Pag hindi sya nag-suck ng maayos, walang milk na lalabas (unlike the usual teats na tuloy-tuloy ang flow kahit hindi mag-suck si baby). Para kahit papano daw e makatulong to avoid nipple confusion. Ngayon, nagbo-bottle sya kung kelangan ko umalis at di ako makakabalik agad. Sa start nagre-resist daw si baby, umiiyak sabi ni yaya, pero eventually nagsa-suck din.

God-willing, I plan to give baby breastmilk exclusively for at least 6mos. Will stretch hanggang kaya, pero baka di ko kayanin mag-direct latch pag nag-ngipin na si baby so pump lang ako ng pump siguro then bottle sya drink.

[Queen Chokolah]

^Medyo nahiya ako sa effort mo sis. Hehe. Kasi ako iinom na nga lang ng malunggay capsule nakakalimutan pa (or rather, kinatatamaran) hehe. Ilang weeks na yata ako walang tine take kahit ano. Okay pa naman supply ko i am able to produce 6 oz in one pumping session. Pero susubukan ko na talaga uminom ng capsule, ayokong pagsisihan sa huli na nawalan ako ng supply.

Mukhang okay yang calma teat ah. San ka nakabili? Though okay naman si baby sa kahit ano. Problema ko lang, after niya mag dede sa bottle hanap niya pa rin dede ko to suck himself to sleep. Ayaw tumanggap ng pacifier. Prolly because too small yung nabili ko. Do you have any recommendation sa brand ng pacifier? Yung close to mom's nips din sana. I dont know if there is such a thing.

Me too ganyan din plan ko gawin pag nagka teeth na. Pero kung kaya naman direct, direct pa rin. Maganda kasi yung bonding pag direct. Ayoko i let go. Nagseselos nga ko minsan sa bottle niya eh hehe

[Queen Chokolah]

Thanks sis. Will wait for the continuation na post mo yata agad, putol.

[bagaholic_chewy]

^ Medela yung Calma teat, sis. Medyo mahal lang, p750 sa Medela House pero p900 sa Mothercare. Isa pa nga lang meron ako e, plan ko bili ng isa pa para me spare.

Sa pacifier naman, I got lang yung Avent na pang 0+. Sa Mothercare lang ako bumili. I introduced the pacifier nung 5wks na din si baby.

Kelangan ko talaga um-effort sis kasi feeling ko sakto lang yung milk production ko e. In a day, once or twice lang ako nagpa-pump, about 4-5oz per session. E gusto ko maka-buildup ng madaming stored breastmilk para kahit komonti production ko eventually e me maiinom pa din si baby esp pag hindi kami magkasama. Yung daily soup namin, na-stop after two weeks pagkauwi. Pinaiwas kasi muna ako ni pedia sa chicken kasi parang nagka-rashes si baby before. Hindi sure kung ano cause, so to be safe daw, hypoallergenic diet muna ako, so no chicken, egg, nuts, etc.  Pero pinapabalik ko now, sabi ko kahit every other day kami mag pork/beef/fish soup. Wala lang muna tinola, hehe..

[Queen Chokolah]

^Hehe parehas pala tayo pinaiwas din ako sa chicken eggs at fish. Pero ako ang nagka allergy. Hindi si baby. Eeffort na din ako. Ngayon kasi kahit me stored milk kami nakakatamad yung i warm pa yung milk lalo pag umiiyak na si baby kaya most of the time direct pa rin. Mga once a day na lang yung bottle. Sis yung pag store mo ng milk, sabi mo kasi gusto mo mag build up, so sa freezer mo store na? Kasi hanggang 4 days lang diba kapag sa ref lang. Yung ref namin yung single door lang kaya frozen milk will last for 2 weeks lang. Di pako nag start mag freeze. Ref lang muna lahat pinapa consume ko within 3 days. Mas preferred daw kasi yun pag frozen kasi the milk loses some of its nutrients.

Pero may tanong ako, how do you know pag panis na yung milk? Yung milk ko kasi kanina, pag 4th day today, iba na yung amoy niya. Hindi naman sya masamang amoy like amoy panis, pero iba na kasi yung amoy niya sa gatas ko na freshly pumped or yung 1-3 days pa lang. Parang halos wala kasing amoy yung milk ko pag fresh. Tapos yung kanina meron na. Di ko na tinikman. diniscard ko na sya. Sayang 3 oz din yun.

Nag work ba yung avent na pacifier mo? Hindi niya tinatanggihan? How much?

[bagaholic_chewy]

^ yup, freezer ko nilalagay kasi nagpapa-bottle lang pag umaalis ako. Pag magkasama kami ni baby (sa bahay man, sa mall, etc) e direct feeding talaga kami.

Yung pacifier, I forgot na how much. Pero mura lang, less than 500 lang yata for two pcs. Ayaw din nya at first ang pacifier, pero eventually suck na sya esp pag antok na talaga sya. Nagbibigay lang ako pacifier pag yung sure ako na busog sya at tipong naghahanap lang na masa-suck para makatulog.

As for panis, di ko sure. Sabi lang nung lactation consultant e tikman daw. Basta ginagawa ko, once nagpa-thaw kami ng milk sa ref (from freezer), dapat maconsume yun within 24 hrs. Then once nailabas na sa ref, dapat within 4-5hrs. Pag na-start na idede, pag hindi naubos within one hour, discard na. So far, 1-2oz pa lang nadi-discard ko..

[vain_kixie]

Sis bagaholic_chewy anong brang yung malaungay capsules mo? Ako din decided na mag breastfeeding.

[bagaholic_chewy]

^ Queen Moringa yata yun sis, nisuggest lang ng friend ko. Sa kanya na din ako nagpabili kasi yung friend nya nagbebenta.

[Queen Chokolah]

Thanks sis bagaholic_chewy. Nanghinayang ako bumili ng mamahaling pacifier kanina kasi baka hindi na naman niya tanggapin. Kaya tinry ko muna yung una. Pag sanay na sya, saka na ko bibili nung maganda. Ayoko sana sya i pacifier eh kasi nga bad feedbacks sa development daw ng teeth. Pero kasi minsan gusto niya lang talaga mag suck at nagagalit pag may lumabas na milk sa dede ko.

Nangangapa pa ko sa pag pump st store. How much pala yung malunggay caps nyo? Mahal kasi ng natalac 9.something tapos 3x a day daw.

[bagaholic_chewy]

^ yung nabili kong paci, di sya ganun ka-bad sa teeth (i forgot the term, basta yung features nya e baby gums/teeth friendly daw).

Yung Queen Moringa, bili ko yata per bottle was php500, 100capsules. 2-4capsules per day, i think.