Aircon - Thead 2

[lakwatsa]

^split type ba nabili mo sis?

[mrsryan]

Who has tried buying aircon from www.mraircon.ph?

[hun_nie08]

san mo yan nakita sis? malapit lang samin ah... pero nacheck ko yung prices mahal pa rin.. hehe! nag survey na kasi ako sa Sm Megamall, SM Masinag at Ansons Ortigas hehe.. Mas mura pa rin sa kanila hehe!
Saka mas sure ka sa warranty ng appliance centers talaga. Online store yang mraircon e.

[mrsryan]

@hun_nie08: nabasa ko sa blog ni patty laurel, parang ni-promote niya yung mraircon doon daw sila bumili ng aircon and cheaper daw talaga compared sa malls

[dm1179]

i just checked mr. aircon website. their price is higher compared to cash price in some stores.

example,

LG 1.5HP Split type, Inverter, Basic
SRP = P33,499.00
Price = P32,159.04 if pay by credit card / P30,149.10 if pay by cash or cheque

but you can buy same model around P27,500.00 (cash) from other stores or Olx.ph

[hun_nie08]

Ah ok sis.. baka endorser sya hehe... Nakita ko FB account nila natanong ko isa kong friend na nilike nya yung page. sabi nya sa appliance center na nga lang din daw sya bibili kasi mas sure ka sa warranty e. Saka mas mura pa rin sa Ansons.

Bigla akong natorn kung nag split type converter ba ako or mag settle na lang sa window type. Maliit lang ang condo namin 31sqm lang, kalahati pa dun is kwarto - If mag split type kami 2hp-2.5h daw pag kasama yung buong unit. And nabasa ko din na makikita mo lang daw yung savings pag tuloy tuloy mo ginagamit like more than 8 hours per day. E working kami pareho ni hubby and sa gabi lang namin nagagamit. Mostly wala pa kami pag weekends. Mahal ang split type tapos mahal din ang installation fee e.

Anong masususggest nyo sis?

[grace08]

Yes sis split type

[hun_nie08]

Sis grace08 kumusta ang electric bill nyo? ilang hours a day nyo ba ginagamit yung aircon?

[Purple_Power]

Yan rin ang tanong ko how much ang electric bill niyo kapag naka inverter kayo?

according sa mga nababasa ko, hindi ramdam ang kabawasan ng konsumo ng inverter type unless you are using it 8hrs/day. bagay ito sa mga computer shops.

kung personal use lang naman lalo na sa room lang, wag na kumuha ng inverter.

What do you mean sis? how much ito kapag 8 hours a day? So parang useless kapag 3 to 5 hours lang?

[hun_nie08]

Actually, yun din sabi sakin ni hubby  e - makikita mo lang daw difference kung more than 8 hours mo sya ginagamit. May nagmention na din nyan sa kabilang thread e. If less 8hrs daw better use non inverter na lang daw.

[dm1179]

eto ilan sa nakuha kong testimonial.. your savings will depend on your actual usage and environment, and also other appliances you use..

Home User 1:

Before: 1HP + 1.5HP Window Type, Non-Inverter
Usage: 6 hours per day
Bill: P10,000

After: 1.5HP + 2HP Split Type, Inverter
Usage: 10-12 hours per day
Bill: P8,500

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Home User 2:

Before: 1.5HP Window Type, Non-Inverter
Usage: 6 hours per day
Bill: P4,500

After: 1.5HP Split Type, Inverter
Usage: 8-14 hours per day
Bill: P2,500

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Computer Shop with 9 Desktop PC:

Before: 1.5HP Window Type, Non-Inverter
Usage: 10 hours per day
Bill: P8,000 to P10,000

After: 1.5HP Split Type, Inverter
Usage: 10 hours per day
Bill: P5,400

[j.adore]

Yung mga hours na yan ba ay continued use or hiwa-hiwalay tapos magiging total of 8 hours in a day?

[dm1179]

for standard (non-inverter) unit, here is suggested size:

0.5 HP = 10 sq.m. & below
0.75 HP = 10 - 14 sq.m.
1.0 HP = 14 - 18 sq.m.
1.25 HP = 15 - 21 sq.m.
1.5 HP = 20 - 25 sq.m.
2.0 HP = 25 - 35 sq.m.
2.5 HP = 35 - 45 sq.m.

for inverter type naman, you can buy bigger size para more efficient.

[hun_nie08]

Thanks sis, ang Kolin ba na brand is ok naman for aircon?

[dm1179]

Yung mga hours na yan ba ay continued use or hiwa-hiwalay tapos magiging total of 8 hours in a day?

hindi na-mention ng users eh. pwedeng continuous or cumulative lang. pero if mapansin mo, kahit mas matagal nilang gamitin ang aircon, mas nakatipid pa rin sila vs non-inverter type.

[dm1179]

Thanks sis, ang Kolin ba na brand is ok naman for aircon?

Kolin, LG, Koppel are the sulit brands based on user feedback.
Daikin, Hitachi, Fujitsu, Mitsubishi are the premium brands. most (if not all) units are made in Japan.
Panasonic and Carrier also among the top choices.
Samsung, not hearing much feedback. can't tell if it is good or bad buy.

[Purple_Power]

Meaning kapag 3 to 5 hours mo lang ginagamit ang inverter magmamahal yung consumption?

[dm1179]

Meaning kapag 3 to 5 hours mo lang ginagamit ang inverter magmamahal yung consumption?

nope, tipid ang inverter even if you use it short time. mas obvious lang kasi ang power savings when used long time.

the only time that i think magkakalapit ang consumption ng inverter and non-inverter is when you use the aircon for 1 hour or less.

sample computation for the sake of illustration only (data is assumed)..

1.5kW inverter type

first 10 mins = 1500W (Compressor at MAX, to speed up cooling)
after 10 mins onwards = 400W (Compressor lowers power just enough to maintain room temperature)

1kW non-inverter type

first 20 mins = 1000W
next 10 mins = 0W (Compressor OFF)
next 10 mins = 1000W
next 10 mins = 0W (Compressor OFF)
next 10 mins = 1000W
and so on...

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1 hour use of aircon

inverter
1500W x 10min + 400W x 50min = 3,500 W-min = 0.0583 kW-hr

non-inverter
1000W x 20min + 1000W x 200min = 4,000 W-min = 0.0667 kW-hr

power savings = 0.0084 kW-hr per day
power savings (30 days) = 0.252 kW-hr

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3 hours use of aircon

inverter
1500W x 10min + 400W x 170min = 83,000 W-min = 1.38 kW-hr

non-inverter
1000W x 20min + 1000W x 70min = 90,000 W-min = 1.5 kW-hr

power savings = 0.12 kW-hr per day
power savings (30 days) = 3.6 kW-hr

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5 hours use of aircon

inverter
1500W x 10min + 400W x 290min = 131,000 W-min = 2.18 kW-hr

non-inverter
1000W x 20min + 1000W x 130min = 150,000 W-min = 2.5 kW-hr

power savings = 0.32 kW-hr per day
power savings (30 days) = 9.6 kW-hr

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10 hours use of aircon

inverter
1500W x 10min + 400W x 590min = 251,000 W-min = 4.18 kW-hr

non-inverter
1000W x 20min + 1000W x 280min = 300,000 W-min = 5.0 kW-hr

power savings = 0.82 kW-hr per day
power savings (30 days) = 24.6 kW-hr

[bratty]

^Very informative sis.

Bumili kami ng AC a few weeks ago, kaso wala pa ang electric bill, wahhhh!

[Nuna]

9sqm lang yung room ng anak ko, is it practical / ok to install a split type?