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hayne22

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« Reply #260 on: March 12, 2014, 07:24:35 am »
Is it? I mean may instances na pwede ka gumamit ng passport ng iba? kahit pa kidnapped victim or child trafficking, bakit ka gagamit ng passport ng iba? bakit name nya yung ipapabook mo na ticket?

di ko napanood yung news about jan. Google ko na lang maya, hehe I'm running late.


syempre may mali pa rin yung officials ng KUL airports dahil hindi nila nalaman na stolen passport pala yung gamit ng passenger tyaka nasa database nila na may reports about the stolen passport..pero ibang topic na yun kase inuuna nilang i-solve yung mas malaking problem..they're just telling na hindi daw terrorist yung 2 iranian..

littlemissbiatch

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« Reply #261 on: March 12, 2014, 09:53:54 am »
^^ From what I could gather, possible na their intent was to sneak into Europe using the fake passports and then seek asylum. Kasi if they use their actual passports (kung meron man) it would require a visa na hindi madali makuha. This is not unheard of naman, for example recently lang may plane na ni-hijack nung co-pilot and he landed sa Switzerland instead of Rome kasi he wanted to seek asylum.

xtine

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« Reply #262 on: March 12, 2014, 09:56:31 am »
Sis, wala atang database ang KUL para makita ang worldwide stolen passports.  Unless makikihookup sila sa interpol stolen passport database.

Kahit sa pinas, hindi malalaman ng immigration officers natin kung stolen passport sha ng ibang bansa kasi hindi centralized ang worldwide passport database.


syempre may mali pa rin yung officials ng KUL airports dahil hindi nila nalaman na stolen passport pala yung gamit ng passenger tyaka nasa database nila na may reports about the stolen passport..pero ibang topic na yun kase inuuna nilang i-solve yung mas malaking problem..they're just telling na hindi daw terrorist yung 2 iranian..

littlemissbiatch

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« Reply #263 on: March 12, 2014, 10:35:49 am »
^ I think Interpol makes the database available for all countries to check, but not all countries perform the check. Kaya nga may slight rebuke from the Interpol SecGen kasi this information is in the database, pero very few countries ever access it.

hayne22

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« Reply #264 on: March 12, 2014, 11:01:07 am »
i don't really know kung anong database yung gamit nila, ang sabi agency database heheh. you can refer to this http://edition.cnn.com/2014/03/10/world/asia/malaysia-airlines-knowns-unknowns/

gorgeouschef

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« Reply #265 on: March 12, 2014, 10:25:20 pm »
This post scared the hell out of me.
I believe something supernatural happened.

Read this post:
http://www.reddit.com/r/nosleep/comments/202oxx/just_remembered_a_couple_of_stories_i_read_here/

sis ano  yung nakalagay dito? naremove na ata yung post hindi ko na siya makita. Is it something related sa bermuda triangle?

CITIgirl_04

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« Reply #266 on: March 13, 2014, 09:40:15 am »
if anybody is a born-again christian here, then we could co-relate this as a prelude to rapture which is what will specifically happen when the Lord our God will get all His believers before He lets the Anti-Christ reign. Sounds superficial if you'll be reading this though and you don't have any idea yet but everything is written in the bible. The enemy(Satan) is doing everything to deceive a lot of people to be with him in hell - which is REAL. We should turn back to the Lord, accept him as our Lord and Savior, acknowledge and BELIEVE that He is alive and He is the only one who can save us. This should be a wake up call for many who refuse to accept the non-disputable fact that supernatural things DOES happen and that GOD allows it to happen for His own good reason. We as humans 'purposely refuse' to ignore the fact that this is something beyond what we so-call, natural phenomenon. I am not scaring you sisses, but now is the time to repent, pray, and cry our hearts out to our one and only savior, Jesus Christ so that we may be saved in whatever judgment He is planning to fulfill in this world that has already forgotten Him as our creator, as our God. I have faith, in the name of Jesus, that if we sincerely believe and acknowledge Him in our lives as our Lord and Savior, turn back on our old ways, and truly worship Him and only Him(not an idol, not Mary, not any images of any god).. He will welcome us all with open hands WITHOUT any second thought and embrace us all with His loving kindness since He wants us(His sons and daughters) to be all in heaven... Hell is created for satan and his fallen angels, not for us.

This Malaysian plane flight 370 'simply vanished out of thin air'. All the evidences show that something unnatural, unusual, unlikely have just happened. And people make a lot of guesses, theories, conclusions for the fact that they can't just accept that something happened out of their control. Human has gone so far as to being proud of their own achievements that they've forgotten that if not for our Creator, we're not here today. Even those two guys who have stolen passports isn't linked to terrorism, experts was able to confirm it already. Oil Slicks found doesn't have anything to do with the missing plane. The debris found floating on the ocean floor was a false alarm. No distress signal. Some says that the phones that were still ringing couple of days after the plane vanished was just a hoax, or a cover up so as to make those who are still hoping hold on to something to which the authorities knew very well that something beyond their control have just happened. Ten countries including air crafts and naval ships have extended their search for this 'gigantic' missing plane. Let alone the fact that the plane has been missing with 'no signs of anything' at all for FIVE - yes five - FREAKING DAYS.

Only God alone knows why these things are happening and why He is allowing these things to happen. Let us not lose hope for in Him we can only find confidence. We shouldn't be afraid in things like this if we know that God with us, no matter what. :)

cecilydee

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« Reply #267 on: March 13, 2014, 10:31:20 am »
^sis relax. tama ang sinabi mo sa huli na only God knows why this things are happening kaya...huwag masyado mag overanalyze. :)

miSlovESka

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« Reply #268 on: March 13, 2014, 10:44:38 am »
Sana mahanap na, watch on BBC na me nilabas na satellite images yun Chinese government, according to reports it maybe a debris from the Malaysian plane in the southern Vietnam and someone had observed a burning plane who was in the southeast Vietnam that day also. :(

xtine

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« Reply #269 on: March 13, 2014, 10:46:33 am »
^^Sis, for me. 

I think there is some explanation as to why the aircraft went missing.  I am not really a devout catholic but just like other religions, we all believe in one God (may it be Allah, buddhist gods, hindu deities, etc). And not just Jesus or holy spirit.   

I also believe that our God is not a vengeful one but a forgiving and loving one.  Blaming the catastrophe to spiritual beings is just our scapegoat because we don't know what really transpired. 

Its only 5th day since the disappearance.  Marami pa ang pwede maging developments as days goes by.  I do suggest that we pray collectively to seek guidance and ask for strength for the families affected by this tragedy and not put paranoia that its the end of time or we are being punished. 
« Last Edit: March 13, 2014, 10:52:11 am by xtine »

cecilydee

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« Reply #270 on: March 13, 2014, 10:58:42 am »
I second with xtine. there is an explanation to this and i think to relate every bad situation to the rapture is not a way to tell people to repent.

anyway were going OT -slightly.

Here is the latest news about the pilot. nag smoke pala siya before sa cockpit.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2578146/Young-blonde-says-missing-Malaysia-Airlines-pilot-invited-friend-ride-cockpit-entire-flight-2011.html

CITIgirl_04

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Re: Most Shocking News You've Heard Lately- PART 13
« Reply #271 on: March 13, 2014, 12:38:40 pm »
my dear sisses xtine and cecilydee, pls dont get me wrong in this..  :) im not over-analyzing nor blaming everything that's happening right now as a punishment to us... the point is, no matter what is happening, whether good or bad, whether under natural or supernatural circumstances.. we should still repent and ask God for forgiveness for all our sins no matter how we think we're not doing wrong or we're good in all aspect of our lives... yes, He is a loving and forgiving God, but He is also Just.
Doesn't necessarily mean that a sinner (even though he repented) won't have a punishment anymore.. Ofcourse we'll still have punishment, however... it's a loving discipline, since our God - the Lord Jesus Christ, the creator of heavens and the earth and all things, is a 'loving' God.
There are only two places where we'll go when we die - heaven or hell - we may not all believe it, but it's true.
The rapture and all the signs of end times in the book of Revelation are all true.
It may be something much for us to take because we haven't really considered looking at it before, all the days of our lives.. so if something out-of-system happens, we're having a hard time accepting it. That's just the way we are, as humans.

Though believe me, I wholeheartedly respect your opinion my beloved sisters... I meant no debate here.. :)

Ok going back since we're 'slightly' going OT....

We are not blaming the catastrophic events to spiritual beings, no of course not, God knows what's in my heart.. what I meant by that was no one even 'dared' to mention on all of those news that this could be connected to something superficial, something supernatural. They were saying that yes, they're looking at all the aspects but, have you ever heard them say on national TV that they're also looking on the supernatural side on it? On every hour that I check the internet, on all those major news channels, CNN, BBC, FOX News, The Guardian, Aljhazeera..etc.. I haven't read any of them yet admitting that this is something beyond their control anymore.
And 'only' 5 days??? Sis, sorry but you're taking it as an 'only'? ??? Without any form of clue, debris, any non-metallic device that's on the plane that should've floated by now, and bodies that should've bloated by now if ever they were underneath the ocean or any GPS signal that could be tracked by those 'state-of-the-art' tracking devices and gadgets they all have including Interpol and FBI in US if ever the plane has been hijacked or landed somewhere that someone could've seen since the plane is huge and Thailand - or any other island within Pacific Asia - is/are just small??? And I'm sure they're doing 'everything they can' to locate the missing plane - the plane that's lost altogether without any trace of evidence at all - using high-tech gadgets we've never knew here in the Philippines. 5 days for the military, fbi, interpol - who are experts already - is too long for them...especially with no 'sure' leads at all.
As of now, all they can do - no matter how they intensely analyze every aspect of the situation - is to make wild guesses.
Unless they don't have a solid proof yet, they're still guessing.

And yes, we should really pray for the families that's left and for all the people who are confused in what's happening in this world nowadays... sometimes, we get so busy with our lives, happiness, goals and plans in life that we never truly know what's already happening all around the world... and when time comes, we'll all realize it's too late... this isn't paranoia dear sisters, but if you only open your eyes, it's the reality... it's really what God wants us to see and realize.. :)

God bless to all of you.... :)






simplykristine08

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« Reply #272 on: March 13, 2014, 12:48:18 pm »
^ sis, yung Air France (2009 plane cras) na kinocompare dito sa Malaysian flight, after 5 days din bago nakakita ng debris, signs of wreckage (according sa nabasa). so, wait natin maybe within this week, if it's almost the same case. Sana, mabigyan na ng linaw. At, magdasal tayo para sakanila at sa mga pamilya nila.

lytblu

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« Reply #273 on: March 13, 2014, 01:15:54 pm »

This Malaysian plane flight 370 'simply vanished out of thin air'. All the evidences show that something unnatural, unusual, unlikely have just happened. And people make a lot of guesses, theories, conclusions for the fact that they can't just accept that something happened out of their control. Human has gone so far as to being proud of their own achievements that they've forgotten that if not for our Creator, we're not here today. Even those two guys who have stolen passports isn't linked to terrorism, experts was able to confirm it already. Oil Slicks found doesn't have anything to do with the missing plane. The debris found floating on the ocean floor was a false alarm. No distress signal. Some says that the phones that were still ringing couple of days after the plane vanished was just a hoax, or a cover up so as to make those who are still hoping hold on to something to which the authorities knew very well that something beyond their control have just happened. Ten countries including air crafts and naval ships have extended their search for this 'gigantic' missing plane. Let alone the fact that the plane has been missing with 'no signs of anything' at all for FIVE - yes five - FREAKING DAYS.

Only God alone knows why these things are happening and why He is allowing these things to happen. Let us not lose hope for in Him we can only find confidence. We shouldn't be afraid in things like this if we know that God with us, no matter what. :)

ano na kaya sasabihin mo kapag in the next week or so eh nahanap na sa wakas ang wreckage?

xtine

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« Reply #274 on: March 13, 2014, 01:18:05 pm »
^Thanks sis for the explanation. 

This may contribute to OT but I guess in discussion involving religion, everybody is entitled to opinion as this is purely on one's belief. 

We all have our own suspicions on how it really happened, may it be science or supernatural but it all boils down on the person's ideology. 

To each his own.     


CITIgirl_04

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« Reply #276 on: March 13, 2014, 02:10:54 pm »
^^ yes sis simplykristine08 nakakita sila ng debris sa Air France after 5 days.. but have you read carefully that minutes before the plane disappeared out of radar eh nakapag-send pa ang pilot ng distress signal? Meaning, they were able to send a warning via air traffic control na may problem yung plane... whereas with this Malaysian Flight 370, the radar suddenly disappeared out of the air traffic control's tracking device. :)

^ sis lytblu kung next week or so eh nahanap na finally yung wreckage eh di unang-una I'll be happy for the families of the victims and for all the people that are somehow looking for a closure regarding this catastrophe... I'm sure that Lord ultimately has a plan why He allowed it to happen.. maybe an eye-opener perhaps that it can happen to anyone? Ikaw sis, hindi ka ba nakakapag-isip na baka isa sa mga mahal mo sa buhay ay magta-travel o pupunta kung san man at bigla nalang mawawala ng walang anumang bakas ng ebidensya? na alam mo namang wala silang kaaway or nakasamaan ng loob buong buhay nila at wala kayong naagrabiyadong tao para kidnapin sila o gawan sila ng masama? Ganyan din kasi ang nangyari sa Flight 370... If you are really following the news do you know that the Flight 370 is 35000 ft above and is flying 'on it's safest point' according to the experts before it suddenly disappeared in their radars? The safest point of the plane when flying is after it has took - off and before it will make its landing (you can search to know what I'm saying is true)... which as what the experts says, it's like a cruising ship on the sea.. the weather that time is in its good condition too... and until now, what's their latest update? a 'very poor' satellite image of a plane-like structure??? Even the reporters say that they can't rely on an image to which they can't confirm if it's even a plane or not.... sigh... talagang we should entrust everything to the Lord nalang... because no matter how we humans try to explain and analyze these sort of thing, only God can give us the answer to everything. :)

xtine.. with all honesty I do respect your opinion sis.. God bless you... :)

and to our sis who posted the latest news..

Please read 'very carefully'..

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US investigators officials believe...

and another one..

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Officials suspect..
here's more..
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While the Wall Street Journal said it isn't clear whether investigators have evidence of terrorism or hijacking - they have not ruled it out

Whatever the result of all of these may be.. I'm praying for any closure - with a very solid evidence - for all the families of the victims and for us all that's waiting for the reason of what really happened to the lost Malaysian Flight 370...
If these images are really of the plane's.. then I hope and pray they prove it right away as to put closure and somehow peace of mind for all of us that can only speculate so much regarding the situation... however... If and only if.. this 'suspected lead' has still nothing to do with the disappearance...
then I have faith in Jesus' name it should be a wake-up call for all of us already...


simplykristine08

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« Reply #277 on: March 13, 2014, 02:18:59 pm »
^ yep, but they're comparing these two flights together and sabi ko nga, may similarities. i didn't say naman na they're exactly the same. kaya ang nacompare ko lang naman eh yung wala pang nakikita na debris sa ikalimang araw. anyway, sana nga eh may makita ng ebidensya. ng magkaron na ng malinaw na sagot din dito.

cecilydee

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« Reply #278 on: March 13, 2014, 02:30:31 pm »
We are not blaming the catastrophic events to spiritual beings, no of course not, God knows what's in my heart.. what I meant by that was no one even 'dared' to mention on all of those news that this could be connected to something superficial, something supernatural. They were saying that yes, they're looking at all the aspects but, have you ever heard them say on national TV that they're also looking on the supernatural side on it? On every hour that I check the internet, on all those major news channels, CNN, BBC, FOX News, The Guardian, Aljhazeera..etc.. I haven't read any of them yet admitting that this is something beyond their control anymore.

why wouldn't they mention something "superficial"? Of course, these big news networks have proven themselves over and over again that they base their news on fact and not something that was just thrown into the realm of thought. if they would even dare to mention that then maybe it will be in their entertainment section and not on "breaking news." but i doubt it. CNN would not go into that level.

regarding comparing this to Air France crash. Nakapag send ang Air France ng signal because the pilot has done its duty well wherein in this MAS case hindi. We dont know yet as to why but one theory about it is pilot suicide. And marami pang theory na pwedeng mangyari. Marami pang avenues na pwedeng tignan other than citing the superficial ones.


littlemissbiatch

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« Reply #279 on: March 13, 2014, 02:52:23 pm »
^^ yes sis simplykristine08 nakakita sila ng debris sa Air France after 5 days.. but have you read carefully that minutes before the plane disappeared out of radar eh nakapag-send pa ang pilot ng distress signal? Meaning, they were able to send a warning via air traffic control na may problem yung plane... whereas with this Malaysian Flight 370, the radar suddenly disappeared out of the air traffic control's tracking device. :)

I don't know what minutes you're referring to, but if you did read the articles about AF447 you would know that the pilot made no distress calls. What they had were electronic messages that were automatically transmitted by the aircraft. Dun lang nila na-determine na may problem yung plane.
And even then, five days before sila may nakita. What more ito na walang kahit anong warning message? Eh di mas mahirap hanapin diba?

Also, the plane disappearing from the radar does not automatically mean na naglaho lang yung plane. This being a secondary radar, it's possible that the transponder was simply turned off, either due to equipment malfunction, fire in the cockpit, or hijacking (pilot can be ordered to manually switch it off). If the transponder is off, it can no longer be detected by secondary radar, but can still be seen by primary radar (ex. the one used by the Malaysian military na supposedly detected it headed towards Malacca but they denied this).

What most people don't realize is that even the most advanced technology has limitations. We think GPS is the solution to everything pero if the device is off, or underwater, it's useless. Hindi siya magic wand na pag ni-wave mo eh iilaw na yung eroplano at magb-beep kung nasan man siya.

 

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