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marose17

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« Reply #300 on: September 17, 2013, 03:17:53 pm »
^^ Have you had relatives who disappeared and never been found during the martial law years?  Do you know people who were tortured because they were suspected of being leftists or communists?  How students of UP were kidnapped, tortured and killed under the guise of cleansing the society from communists?  A family friend lost a son that way and if you happen to have lived through it, you would never wish for martial law to return.  You will never respect the so-called truth coming from one of the spin doctors of martial law.

I am not pro-PNoy or the administration. I recognize the flaws, faults and frailties of this administration as much as any other administration.  I too am exasperated by things going on in the government.  But I do remember how it was during Martial law and I do remember that Kit Tatad was one of those who covered up the truth.  That's why I cannot, cannot take anything he says seriously without further investigation. 
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solepurplelife

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« Reply #301 on: September 17, 2013, 04:26:15 pm »
oo nga noh, I remeber my lola used to tell us na when Cory was elected as the president ee almost all the commodities ay nagtaas ang presyo even daw the galunggong na pagkain ng mahirap ee naging pagkain ng mayaman. That's why she never liked Cory's administration daw. ???

artemis26

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« Reply #302 on: September 17, 2013, 06:29:30 pm »
nawalan kasi ng 'enforced discipline' ang mga pilipino after martial law. And i hate to admit it, but our country is that type that needs an iron hand, with the kind of mentality we have, the kind of politicians we vote. Hayy. Hindi naman democracy ang narestore when martial law was lifted, but an oligarchy-ruled by a rich upper class, propelled by the uneducated masses. Kawawa naman ang working class who bear the brunt of taxes wasting away.

Grabe ang nangyayari sa zambo. This is pure evil na. Sana yun mga kurap na lang itapon sa zamboanga para ma-deads.

daveigh

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« Reply #303 on: September 17, 2013, 07:29:16 pm »
Actually, sabi ng lola ko, during martial law, pag sumunod ka sa curfew, sa batas noon, wala naman daw mangyayari sayo.

Same thing my lolo said. He worked as a foreman on B-meg before on shifting. Hinahatid pa sya hanggang bahay namin dahil lagpas sya sa curfew.

Back on the topic. Ibang klase talaga ang mga nasa likod ng mga pangyayari na ito. Ngayon naman SM Davao. Desperate times calls for desperate measures talaga.

DV

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« Reply #304 on: September 17, 2013, 09:58:31 pm »
Same old taics din, black and white lagi, no middle ground. For them, whoever is on their side is always right, while everyone associated with their enemy are all evil. Hahay.

for me, the marcos regime is not as dark as we were taught it to be. Kaloka lang kasi pati yung pork barrel scam nasisi pa kay marcos dahil sa kanya daw nag-umpisa ang corruption hahaha. Nabasa ko lang na comment sa fb. Kaloka talaga ibang pinoy mag-isip.

This is what really gets me pagdating kay Noynoy and his cohorts. They make it seem that they are the source of everything that is good and true, and blame everyone who are not on their side. Ilabas nila ang audit ng PDAF ni Noynoy as a senator and a congressman, and maybe I will believe half of what Lacierda or Valte will say. Itong pork barrel issue, they've turned it into partisan politics. It's not LP vs Binay or Marcos. This issue is about the entire government vs the Filipino people. At this point it's hard to tell who's saying the truth, and who's spewing out lies, that's why it's important to read all sides of the story. I find it strange that when I clicked the link to Tatad's article earlier, it took me to an adult site. I've also read some comments that they couldn't post the same to their facebook timelines (the link has been blocked).

hmmm i am skeptical about that article by tatad but its interesting because he is refusing to retract any of the things he mentioned on his article but i dont think its true. for sure, hinde nila sa malacanang tinago si napoles from lunch till her surrender. hinde naman siguro sila ganun kabobo di ba?

anyways, 10 minutes pa yan or four hours, the fact remains that napoles is enjoying special treatment by the president and his cronies. so many things can be accomplished in 10 minutes and filipinos are so **** that they would fall for anything feed to them, hook, line, and sinker. nakakapagod.

Sabi ni Tatad, Lacierda left with Napoles after the meeting at 4.30 pm, and headed for an unknown destination. Pero tama ka, 4 hours man o 10 minutes, bakit kailangan ng closed door meeting with Noynoy?


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http://manilastandardtoday.com/2013/09/17/hacking-away/

"This is about how hackers in the employ of the Aquino administration have been attempting to suppress a newspaper critical of government. And the latest cyber-attack on the Manila Standard Today happened only yesterday, in a too-obvious bid to prevent Tatad’s column from being “shared” to a wider audience using Facebook, that omnipresent social network."


There are a number of online groups/writers critical of the government, but why did anybody go through all the trouble of sabotaging that particular article?
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vhanya

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« Reply #305 on: September 17, 2013, 10:03:03 pm »
Let's take all published articles about Napoles with a grain of salt. Walang nagsasabi ng totoo jan. Halos mas sari-sariling pinapanigan kasi. Mas ok na mag-isip na lang tayo and come up with our own analysis sa mga nangyayari. Madami na akong nabasang logical statements dito sa GT. Let's keep it that way. =)

yelle

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« Reply #306 on: September 17, 2013, 10:19:47 pm »
^^^ sabi nga ng Father-in-law ko dati nga noong panahon ni marcos hinihikayat pa silang mag tanim ng gulay sa kani-kanyang bakuran at mas disiplinado ang mga pinoy noon. Kaya lang ang kinalakihan ko naman tinuturo sa aming paaralan na bayani ang Aquinos. Ngayon lang talaga ako namulat sa katotohanan na ganito na pala ka-sakim ang gobyerno natin na mina-manipula na tayo.  Pero kahit ano pa man, minsan sa pamumuno ni marcos naging sakim din siya sa kapangyarihan.




Leven

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« Reply #307 on: September 18, 2013, 08:19:53 am »
Actually, sabi ng lola ko, during martial law, pag sumunod ka sa curfew, sa batas noon, wala naman daw mangyayari sayo. Mas  gumulo ang pilipinas noong wala na si marcos. Walang direction, walang disiplina. The dark stage of our history commenced when Cory Aquino became president.

Water and electricity, media, and everything else were controlled by the government during marcos’ regime. Same way as everything here in dubai is being controlled by her government. Same way as other rich countries of today, kung saan dumadayo ang mga Pilipino para magtrabaho. Kaloka!

actually ito din yung sinabi ng papa ko.pag marunong kalang sumunod sa curfew di mo naman mafefeel ang martial law noon..buti pa nga daw noon kasi kahit na bakbakan kasi nakakabili ka pa rin ng mura so hindi ka magugutom...at ang mga mahihirap noon may relokasyon pa, lalo na mga bata..may nakakain...

guilleanne

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« Reply #308 on: September 19, 2013, 03:43:56 am »
the more that lacierda talks about tatad's expose the more i believe its true.


iba naman yung approved schedule sa actual na ginawa ni noynoy that day. katulad pag nag imbestiga from what time till what time and yun proximity mo sa crime scene.


ok may pic at video nga sa event does it prove that pnoy was there from 10am to 1.30 pm.


plus sabi nya abad denied being at malacanang that day and detailed abad's supposed whereabouts but then he also said that pnoy had a meeting with abad in the study room of malacanang. oh sino nag sisinungaling parehong galing sa bibig nya yun?



at si lacierda, nasaan at ano ang ginagawa nya ng mga oras na yun?



Leven

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« Reply #309 on: September 19, 2013, 07:48:41 am »
magdalo member was one of those caught MNLF members sa Zamboanga...Trillanes is one of Pnoy's puppet..hmmm..something fishy..

artemis26

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« Reply #310 on: September 19, 2013, 11:22:51 am »
the latest i heard about napoles is that 'ginamit' rin pala ang 'influence' nya that time na namimili ng votes to impeach corona and for the passage of the RH bill. Kaya raw napoles felt proud na she succeeded in that 'role' that PNoy/malacañang assigned to her.


DV

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« Reply #311 on: September 19, 2013, 01:34:19 pm »
^^^Kulang na sa tulog si Lacierda. He's contradicting himself. The curious case of 2 Abads.

guilleanne

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« Reply #312 on: September 19, 2013, 05:47:46 pm »
noynoy in zambo, hes calling the shots daw pero puro si mar ang nasa tv. e sa baha nga takot na takot lumusong yan. nakita nyo ba sis yung news na sabi nung retired prof na wala daw mnlf dun sa lugar nila may pumuputok daw pero galing lang sa military.



hindi ko din magets ang issue dyan sa zambo, parang walang sense sakin na mangugulo ang mnlf sa zambo, [textspeak!] makukuha at mapapala nila. tapos davao naman ngayon may sumasabog din. i mean why would mnlf terrorize zambo?



ang tanong ko pa, bakit 3 senator lang ang nakasuhan. puro oposisyon pa.

DV

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« Reply #313 on: September 19, 2013, 06:42:23 pm »
This is the article artemis26 was talking about. I pasted the entire thing to save you guys from going to that dating website (as of now, every time you click on a Manila Standard article, you will be taken to a dating site, but on 2nd click you will be taken to the correct one). http://manilastandardtoday.com/2013/09/19/jennys-work-for-noy-1/
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Jenny’s work for Noy (1)
By Jojo Robles | Posted 18 hours ago | 17,022 views

President Noynoy Aquino put Janet Lim Napoles in charge of “convincing” both the Senate and the House of Representatives to vote in favor of the impeachment and conviction of then Chief Justice Renato Corona and for the passage of the Reproductive Health Law, by her own account. Not only were the lawmakers convinced that Napoles’ involvement in these two initiatives meant that they were doing the bidding of Aquino through a trusted intermediary close to the palace, she confided; if they did what Aquino wanted, they hoped that Napoles’ business of converting pork barrel funds into kickbacks for legislators would continue unabated through her.

Corona, who was appointed by former President Gloria Macapagal Arroyo near the end of her term in 2010, was impeached in the House, convicted by the Senate and removed from office, all before the end of May last year. By December, both the Senate and the House had approved the controversial RH measure, which was signed into law before Christmas by Aquino.

These were among the disclosures made to me by an unimpeachable source recently. This source, who spoke only on condition that I would grant him anonymity, is a private businessman who said he once believed that Napoles’ JLN Trading company was a “legitimate and respectable” enterprise; he had asked to meet Napoles to look into how they could do business together, especially through the government contacts of Madame Jenny, he said.

The source and Napoles met “at least three or four times,” with each meeting lasting at least one hour. At least once, the source had to meet with her for several hours, during which they were served a meal made from scratch by the personal chef hired by Napoles to cook the food that she ate.

The meetings between Napoles and the source took place between October and December last year in the businesswoman’s 25th floor offices at the Discovery Suites in Ortigas Center; Napoles had by this time already taken possession of the entire floor of the building, having already displaced the final holdout tenant, a “laser acupuncture” service that had been given concessional rental rates by the Tiu family, which controls the posh structure.

The source had been introduced to Napoles by a former official of the Arroyo administration.

The former Arroyo-era official who introduced the source to Napoles said it was good to be friends with Madame Jenny “because she is very close to Malacanang.” “She also always made it clear that she was really close with President Aquino in our conversations,” the source said.

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According to the source, Napoles (or “Madame Jenny, as she preferred to be called by everyone”) was always “gracious and well-dressed,” if a little too prone to cursing in Tagalog in private. “She liked to say ‘P– i–,’” the source said. “It was strange to hear that expression so often from someone who was obviously very rich and surrounded with expensive things.”

The other thing he noticed about Napoles, he said, was that “she was always on the phone with some high government official .” If she was not talking to these important people, she had to frequently interrupt herself while talking to send or receive their text messages, he said.

According to the source, when he met Napoles in October, Madame Jenny was still basking in the glory of her supposed role in Corona’s conviction. “She said she had been assigned to talk to the congressmen and the senators, especially during the trial of Corona in the Senate,” the source said. “I didn’t have to ask her who assigned her; she said it was the President, because she could be trusted with the job of talking to the congressmen and senators.”

Furthermore, according to the source, Napoles was excited—and very busy—because she said she was doing the same job for Aquino, this time for the RH law. “There was no doubt in her mind that she could get the job done the second time around, she told me,” the source said.

But despite a feeling of mutual respect, the source said, nothing came of their plans to go into business together. “Jenny told me that she was already encountering some problems in the office,” the businessman said. He said he would later learn that Napoles was being maligned in text messages and the occasional unflattering newspaper and broadcast news article.

In their final meeting, also held in Napoles’ Discovery Suites headquarters last December after several weeks of no communication, Jenny told the businessman that she was sorry that she didn’t get back to him sooner. “I learned later that some of those senior staff of some senators were trying to discredit Napoles through text messages and news reports,” the source said.

These people, according to the businessman, were probably those working with Napoles’ relative and trusted subordinate Benhur Luy, who would become the primary whistle-blower against Madame Jenny. As Luy has testified in the Senate, he was already setting up his own network for pork barrel conversion, in a bid to cut out Napoles entirely from the lucrative trade. (To be continued tomorrow)

miss understood

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« Reply #314 on: September 19, 2013, 06:50:42 pm »
^^Exactly! Kung gusto nilang manggulo talaga, cotabato city ang isa sa mga strategic area kasi nandun ang seat ng ARMM or sa manila. God forbids.

Taga Zamboanga ang family ni Benhur and taga basilan naman sina Napoles.

Wild imagination ko lang to: baka gustong iterrorize ang family ni benhur, tapos ginamit ang ilang nasuhulang members ng mnlf to make it appear na gyera with the rebels ang nangyari. Syempre they cannot just harm the family of benhur na diretsahan kasi mapaghihinalahan "sila" (Hay, sa dami ng haka-haka kung [textspeak!]-ano na rin naiisip ko, considering the fact na ex-magdalo yung isang MNLF na nahuli and marami na ring mga taga-Basilan and Zambo ang nagsabi na yung ibang members ay pumunta lang sa zambo kasi akala nila magrarally lang. My ex-officemate na taga Jolo said na baliw daw yung nakuha nilang sniper man. Yun bang pagala-pagala lang. I dont know kung totoo. Arggggh. Parang iron man 3?)

guilleanne

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« Reply #315 on: September 19, 2013, 08:02:33 pm »
sa totoo lang palpak ang writer at direktor ng pelikulang to. di sila magaling gumawa ng conspiracy. kasi this time walang assistance ng cia ang mga aquino. mas magaling pa nung impeachment ni erap di halata ang pag mani obra sa tao.


maybe people are a bit smarter now or they are just dumb.


kung maka panira si lacierda kay tatad, atleast si tatad nuon magaling mag sinungaling, hahaha. ano ba yan.


saka bakit si mar ang front sa zambo, may nabasa ako ngayon ko din lang napansin na dapat nga naman DND sec at AFP general ang head dito, department of national defense nga eh kasi war hindi dapat dilg, fishy diba.



see pati tong thread na divert sa zambo crisis. medyo epektib nga.




guilleanne

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« Reply #316 on: September 19, 2013, 08:03:29 pm »
sa totoo lang palpak ang writer at direktor ng pelikulang to. di sila magaling gumawa ng conspiracy. kasi this time walang assistance ng cia ang mga aquino. mas magaling pa nung impeachment ni erap di halata ang pag mani obra sa tao.


maybe people are a bit smarter now or they are just dumb.


kung maka panira si lacierda kay tatad, atleast si tatad nuon magaling mag sinungaling, hahaha. ano ba yan.


saka bakit si mar ang front sa zambo, may nabasa ako ngayon ko din lang napansin na dapat nga naman DND sec at AFP general ang head dito, department of national defense nga eh kasi war hindi dapat dilg, fishy diba.



see pati tong thread na divert sa zambo crisis. medyo epektib nga.




miss understood

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« Reply #317 on: September 19, 2013, 08:10:48 pm »
I agree with one of the sisses here who said na magbasa tayo, read as much information/news as we can and tayo na bahala ang mag-analyze.

Watch this, I dont know if this is staged or propaganda din ng kabila. kasi sa panahon ngayon, hindi natin alam kung sinong nagsasabi ng totoo: https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=730197500339627

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MWRRnX3Yg5U&feature=share
« Last Edit: September 19, 2013, 08:15:02 pm by miss understood »

miss understood

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« Reply #318 on: September 19, 2013, 08:25:35 pm »

see pati tong thread na divert sa zambo crisis. medyo epektib nga.

oops, hehe. oo nga. Sorr-rey!

vhanya

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« Reply #319 on: September 20, 2013, 07:51:14 am »
Ingat sa pagpunta sa mga malls sis. Got intelligence na some MNLFs are here na and they are trying to bomb major malls or mataong lugar. Ingat!


 

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