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catherine ann

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« Reply #220 on: September 04, 2013, 01:05:08 am »
^magaling lang ang spin doctor ni Noynoy gaya ng ABS at Inquirer. Nung panahon ni GMA puro raw/daw sa news pero kay Noynoy kahit di na nakikita kung may calamity at nasa party sya (di ba nag TY pa yung isang artista sa kanya) pero wala kang maririnig o mababasa na bad news tungkol sa kanya  . . . di ba nakakapagtaka

vhanya

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« Reply #221 on: September 04, 2013, 01:19:11 am »
Magaling PR ni Noynoy magtakip ng mga kalokohan nya. Pero hindi lahat hehe.
Heard about the latest issue about the Executive Secretary Ochoa? He is Panot's cash generator

airish_2

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« Reply #222 on: September 04, 2013, 08:00:23 am »
hay magkaroon sana ng cancer sila sabay sabay ng maubos pera nila pang gamot mga walang konsensya bulok na sistema talaga.

cruxito

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« Reply #223 on: September 04, 2013, 08:12:31 am »
^magaling lang ang spin doctor ni Noynoy gaya ng ABS at Inquirer. Nung panahon ni GMA puro raw/daw sa news pero kay Noynoy kahit di na nakikita kung may calamity at nasa party sya (di ba nag TY pa yung isang artista sa kanya) pero wala kang maririnig o mababasa na bad news tungkol sa kanya  . . . di ba nakakapagtaka

I agree. Kaya nga yung GMA news lagi nagpaparinig ngayon. Wala daw kasi sila kinikilingan at kinakampihan.

I think pro administration ang ABS at inquirer.

That's how Greenday excerpt in their hit song "American Idiot"
Don't wanna be an American idiot. Don't want a nation under the new media.

Papayag ba tayong matawag na Philippine Idiot? Magpapa control ba tayo sa mga Media na yan kahit alam naman nating may kinikilingan sila. Lets not talk about those past president. Lets focus in the issue of Napoles. Is she has the connection with Panot? Pag wala na tayong problema sa present and future then saka na natin bigyan ng time yang past na yan.

DV

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« Reply #224 on: September 04, 2013, 08:13:49 am »
^^^^^If you had read the article that I posted, you will know na walang data on how Aquino spent his PDAF as a senator. Bakit kaya? Paano sya mao-audit? Bakit ang na-audit lang e yung mga nasa oposisyon? Hindi ba nakapagtataka? Ilang taon na syang binibigyan ng audit report ng COA, ngayon lang sya nagsalita tungkol sa PDAF? Pati papaanong may masusulat na masama sa kanya, lalo na yang Inquirer, e yellow media yan? Kahit last year nabalita yung report ng COA on how many billions lost to graft, in-spin ng Inquirer. Yung Inekon scandal ni Balsy, wala ka rin gaanong nabalitaan kasi they own the media. Kung tunay syang honest, ipina-imbestigahan nya dapat yan (maski si GMA e hinayaan nyang maimbestigahan ang asawa nya at anak). E ang nangyayari basta KKK ipinagtatanggol agad ng Malacanang.

solepurplelife

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« Reply #225 on: September 04, 2013, 09:28:52 am »
It doesn't surprise me na walang balita against PNoy. Un kasi platform nya. Tuwid na daan.  ::) Most of his accomplishments? PAGPAPAPOGI.  I wonder kung gaano kalaki ang kinukuha nila sa kaban ng bayan para mabigyan and media.  :P Well I actually heard some news kay PNOY. Isa na doon ang issue reg. their hacienda. I think kaya nga nya pinaringgan si Noli De Castro sa isang event ng ABS-CBN kasi tinitira ang administrasyon nya. Haha galit kasi ang magnanakaw sa kapwa magnanakaw.  ;)
« Last Edit: September 04, 2013, 09:31:07 am by solepurplelife »

allura

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« Reply #226 on: September 04, 2013, 12:40:23 pm »
DV,

sis, regarding the writer of that article in manila times.  did you know that:


Under the Arroyo administration Rigoberto Tiglao held the following positions:

Presidential Spokesman/Press Secretary (2001–2002)
Presidential Chief of Staff  (2002–2004)
Presidential Management Staff (2004–2006)


It should tell us something about his motives, he's not exactly neutral.



But he inspite of it he does make a point.  so todays headlines:


COA report: Mar Roxas poured P5M into questionable NGO

http://www.gmanetwork.com/news/story/324852/news/nation/coa-report-mar-roxas-poured-p5m-into-questionable-ngo


COA report links 2 more senators to Napoles NGOs

http://www.gmanetwork.com/news/story/324847/news/nation/coa-report-links-2-more-senators-to-napoles-ngos

loren legarda was implicated



So we will wait and see how all of this unfolds whether there would be cover ups for allies or just strictly opposition elimination.
« Last Edit: September 04, 2013, 12:47:48 pm by allura »

DV

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« Reply #227 on: September 04, 2013, 01:17:04 pm »
^I've read about Tiglao and know about the positions he's held. If you think he's not neutral, neither is Lacierda nor Valte, but his articles are based on facts (he got them from the COA special report), which Pulido-Tan herself admitted to the Senate Blue Ribbon Committee, so we can't say that he's making things up. If his writing does not sit well with you, how about this from Nina Cacho-Olivarez?

http://www.tribune.net.ph/index.php/commentary/item/18708-highly-suspicious-audit

solepurplelife

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« Reply #228 on: September 04, 2013, 05:22:13 pm »
After all the things that have been said about marcos, ramos, and arroyo, in all fairness to them, they were all working presidents.

Sis allura, im not claiming that the presidents before noy2x were honest and sincere. I wish you could apply the same logic when you're reading news about gma. Para kasing dapat isipin ko muna mga corruptions ng past admins para makita ko honesty ni noynoy. Pwede bang mag concentrate muna tayo kay noynoy? Lahat na lang ng mali dahil sa past admins. Lahat ng maganda dahil sa kanya hahaha! Pwede bang we'll try to see noynoy as he is. Regardless sa parents nya, sa PR eclavu nya.

very much sensible

artemis26

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« Reply #229 on: September 04, 2013, 05:44:35 pm »
is there a noytard in the house? LOL! :)

paulit-ulit ko kasing nababasa yung ganung reasoning sa mga die-hard fans ni PNoy, those same people who see that the President can never do wrong.

Hayy. Kelan pa sila mamumulat at magsisisi? Enough na sana.

allura

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« Reply #230 on: September 04, 2013, 06:21:39 pm »
Tsabadodo,


Sis, kaya lang naman na brought out ko yung controversies and scandals ng past administrations dahil sa mga panahon ng panunungkulan nila napakadaming expose's, public hearings, headline topics on all media formats, mga forum topics etc na hindi nila matakpan ang mga kalookohan nila inspite they also had the same resources, power and connections to hire the best spins doctors, best lawyer, best investigators to dig up dirt, bribe whoever needs to be bribed just to keep their shameless plundering buried but fortunately hindi lahat ng pinoy ay bayaran kaya nilalantad sa parin nila sa publiko .  Kaso kay Pnoy (so far so good) wala even after three years and I believe there are still honest kababyans who would stand up to even pnoy himself in every corner of our country if he was a big time crook and oppositions would had dig up dirt even before all this pero wala parin lumabas.


Ito rin minsan nagiging problema kung bakit sinasabing "Filipinos has a short memory"  kaya paulit ulit nanannalo ang mga hoodlum in robes/barongs because we tend to forget their atrocities otherwise mga katulad ni jinggoy, jalosjos, lapid, arroyos could not had stolen so much up to now kung dati pa lang we make it a point never to vote them back to power. 

Let us not argue over this because everyone here is just angry over that atrocious plunder on funds that are supposedly earmarked for our benefit as Filipino people.  Im just praying that this will be the last time these charlatans will ever set foot on any govt positions whether pnoy allies or oppositions and that they would pay dearly for crimes that caused so much impoverishment to our countrymen.   


Can they even begin to imagine the kind of bad karma they created for themselves by stealing so much out of greed?  All officials will experienced rapid consequences for their behaviors in this life, and will probably carry those consequences into their next life such as suffering under the condition of destitute poverty, homelessness, and victimization.


 
« Last Edit: September 04, 2013, 06:26:07 pm by allura »

jasmine3689

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« Reply #231 on: September 04, 2013, 11:32:49 pm »
^agree with you sis.

vhanya

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« Reply #232 on: September 05, 2013, 12:04:13 am »
Erap gave Noynoy 500M PDAF when he was congressman during his term. Angsarap ipa-COA! Aminado naman daw yung COA na "mejo biased" daw yung COA report implicating the opposition senators kaya on the defense sila ngayon. Naglalabas na ng ibang resports lols
Ang nakakainis lang, hello? no one is implicating ABAD? Diba sa kanya nanggagaling lahat ng pondo kasi siya yung DBM?


allura

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« Reply #233 on: September 05, 2013, 01:46:33 am »
but i couldnt help but add that what made gloria more evil was how she was made as the scapegoats of all the kapalpakan of our politicians. and during elections, her corruption was so much used and exploited and highlighted to make candidates the heros they never were. natapos ng lahat, nawalan na sya ng power, si noynoy na ang presidente, pero hinde pa din sya na-convict sa mga graft and corruption cases nya. have we bothered to question why? baka nga pare-pareho lang silang lahat di ba?


sis, Gloria is still power albeit not as powerful as before.  Congresswoman ata siya ng 2nd district sa Pampanga at landslide win pa.  Para din si jalosjos yan noon kahit convicted na at sa kulungan tumakbo bilang congressman landslide win din.  O kaya anak ni chavit singson na si Ronald singson na convicted drug user sa hk courts kaso panalo parin ngayon....hay wala rin talaga kadala dala ang mga botante.


Actually I can't tell if Gloria was the most corrupt president if ramos had successfully manipulated to extend his term or erap had finished his.  For now she is the second most corrupt president after marcos because she had 9 years to plunder our national coffers.  Also from ramos to Gloria, pangrabe ng pagrabe at lalong gumagarapal ang nakawan para tuloy akala mo may paligsahan silang tatlo kung sinong mas magaling magpakayaman habang nasa pwesto.  Ginagawang negosyo kasi ang position.


Kaya rin si arroyo madalas napaguusapan ni pnoy because she was his immediate corrupt predecessor. 

Nung si Erap din naman he made it a point to humiliate ramos who was in attendance during his sona na bankrupt ang pinas nung iniwan sa kanya kaya galit na galit si tabacco dun maslalo na nung binantaan niya si ramos na ipaiimbestigan siya in connection with the centeenial expo at pea amari scam.

Pero etong si erap din naman na mahilig magsabi na walang kaibigan o kamaganak na magiimpluensya sa kanya ay napakacorrupt din, ramos was instrumental in kicking out erap at that time. 

Tapos nung si Gloria naman naging presidente turn naman niya ipahiya si erap at sinabi rin sa sona na iniwan sa kanya na bankrupt din ang pinas samantalang isa din itong magnanakaw kaya ang gulo talaga ng politics natin. 

Again I have to reiterate na we had a "short memory".   "Gloria bashing" by pnoy wasn't exclusive to him.  Cory did so when marcos was ousted who afterall murdered her husband but case is still unresolved after all these years (so who is to blame for this), Erap hated ramos so he did a lot of "ramos bashing" but ramos bash back by having a hand in his removal and Gloria did not like erap so she did her fair share of "erap bashing".  Every one of this individuals are guilty of this including pnoy.


Hindi lang talaga sinuswerte ang bansa natin na mga ganyan klaseng tao at nakakaupo bilang president.  Imagine a consecutively combined 18 years for three president that bled us dry.  How can we expect to rise....
« Last Edit: September 05, 2013, 02:13:20 am by allura »

mhitchy

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« Reply #234 on: September 05, 2013, 04:06:38 am »
naaawa ako sa....sarili ko.nanakawan ako dahil jan sa scam na yan. pero mas nakakawa sila kasi wala silang peace of mind.

DV

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« Reply #235 on: September 05, 2013, 09:05:35 am »
Hahahaha. Sobrang OT na ito. Lipat na sa Sinong pinaka-corrupt na president thread! Hehe.

allura, I don't know how to break this to you... research ka na lang kung sino ang tunay na nagpapatay kay Ninoy kaya't hanggang ngayon ay wala pa ring closure yang kasong yan (even after Cory's term, and now that his own son is president). Clue: it's not Marcos. I think a lot of people know this already.

artemis26, may script kasing sinusundan ang mga yellow trolls. Gawa ni Carandang. Hahaha.

Back to the topic, nag-request pala si Napoles ng yaya. I don't know what to make of it. Donyang donya! Pati si yaya kulong? Buti na lang hindi na-grant. Really, what were they thinking?

vhanya, I was thinking the same thing. Dapat kay Abad umpisahan ang imbestigasyon dahil sya ang nagre-release ng pondo, at sya rin ang nagtago ng documents from COA. Pero syempre, to the rescue na naman ang Malacanang at inabswelto agad si Abad. Kung tunay na honest si Noynoy dapat inuna nyang ipakita how he spent his PDAF as a congressman and a senator, to set an example. E ang kaso itinago naman ni Abad. Zero data. What are they hiding?

Double effort talaga ang ginagawa nila to cover up their mess; they're afraid na ma-expose ang kanilang 'tuwid na daan'.
« Last Edit: September 05, 2013, 09:28:05 am by DV »

Leven

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« Reply #236 on: September 05, 2013, 10:07:49 am »
may yaya ba mga baboy? ibaon na yan...bakit minomonitor ang health niya..special treatment? baka may takot ibulgar? clue..kalbo at may love interest na naman daw.

CityHunter

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« Reply #237 on: September 05, 2013, 10:31:47 am »
Just sharing what I read on an old newspaper.

1. It took just a call from Mr. Edwin Lacierda to Ms. Janet Napoles' attorney to make her, Ms. Janet Napoles, come out of hiding.

2. Ms. Janet Napoles simply walked out of the shadows in a cemetery for the arranged rendezvous on that Wednesday night.

3. The NBI which was the lead agency tasked to locate her was kept in the dark.

4. Ms. Janet Napoles was transported to Malacanang Palace for an audience with the President.

5. Precedents before this were about principled men opting for a political settlement and not as fugitives from the law.

6. The little black book she is supposed to keep according to her former witnesses has yet to be shared.

7. Ms. Janet Napoles must be familiar with the President as she wrote to him complaining about the NBI taking custody of Mr. Ben Luy. Original copy of this letter is missing. Nothing surprising as what happened to the letter of the Sultan of Sulu.

8. The President was in the lead car in the convoy that transported Ms. Janet Napoles to Camp Crame.

A lead car is what takes the brunt of an attack in case such an attack happens.

9. Ms. Janet Napoles was detained at Camp Crame at Sec. Mar Roxas' office instead of a cell. According to trivia leaked she dined on Vietnamese cuisine.

Sec. Mar Roxas frets about dust on tabletops and changes in temperature between one room and the next.

10. Ms. Janet Napoles was not paraded about like the former presidents were when they were arrested.

11. A CIDG team was sent to inspect the female ward of the Makati city jail but it seems it was not adequate as a 2nd team composed of Sec. Mar Roxas, PNP Chief Alan Purisima, Sec. Edwin Lacierda inspected it again.

12. The NBI was kept away from the action. Unknown if this is due to rivalry between the PNP and the NBI.

13. The day before Ms. Janet Napoles surrendered a showbiz wag said that she, Ms. Janet Napoles, contributed generously to Aquino's 2010 presidential campaign. This has been denied by Sec. Lacierda.

Sourced from First Person by Alex Magno (page 12) of the Philippine Star dated August 31, 2013.

DV

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« Reply #238 on: September 05, 2013, 10:59:49 am »
^On #6, the whistleblowers have just shown the Inquirer the different notebooks containing records of dealings, account numbers, etc. I sure hope they kept soft or photo copies before turning these over to the NBI or whoever. You know how it is here... authorities tend to lose evidences.

http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/481333/whistle-blowers-bare-napoles-pork-records

artemis26

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« Reply #239 on: September 05, 2013, 11:08:29 am »
^^sis DV, actually, my friend (who has connections with the military during the time of Marcos/assasination of Ninoy Aquino), told me some info on why hindi pa rin nga ma-solve ang death ni Ninoy. And yes, it was not Marcos who ordered the assassination, it was someone who wanted to become president :)

grabe naman yan, hingi pa ng yaya, umo-over na sa kapal ng mukha. I am REALLY wondering kung bakit meron pa ring mga tao naniniwala sa spiel nila Carandang and the (mis) commuinication group. Masyadong na kasing obvious ang script. Lalo na yung recent limelight on the new love interest of PNoy. Yuck!

I work in a government office, wherein yung mga allowances na nabigay sa amin as part of our collective negotiation agreement (CNA) are being ordered for refund, to think na soooobrang liit lang naman nun. At hindi ba ang BIR is running after even those na patay na just to collect taxes? WTF! iparefund muna nila kay Napoles yun mga nakuha nyang pera ng bayan.

Mdalas na litanya ng DBM na wala raw pera, kaya pati mga bonues ng mga govt employees binawasan. And I am sure a lot have yet to receive their 2012 PBB. Kaya ang lakas nilang makaloko na walang pera, pero ang PDAF na involved sa scam amounting to billions?! Nun naupo si PNoy, legitimate bonuses of gvot employees have considerably been reduced or talagang inalis. Tapos malalaman mo na nagrerelease pala ang DBM ng pera sa mga dubious NGOs ni Napoles na may 70% cut ang mga congressman/senators. Nakakainis!!!! >:(


 

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