braking techniques for manual cars

[geekchiq]

Hi mga sis! Am still new to driving, and I still drive with an assistant on the passenger seat. I studied just this month sa driving school so hindi pa talaga ako magaling magdrive.

Anyways, kasi when I was in driving school, I was taught to use the clutch first and then brake when coming to a full stop. However, may nagsasabi I should press the brake first and then clutch. Kaso mas namamatayan ako pag ganon. And sabi naman ng biyenan ko who assist me on my driving practices, I should first place it in neutral and then assist na lang sa brakes. Hindi ko tuloy alam which one is the correct way? How  about you mga sis, anong ginagawa niyo?

Thanks in advance!

[CityHunter]

Hi, geekchiq.

It has been a long while since I last drove as our ride became a victim of Ondoy   Anyhow, mas correct yun approach mo as yun brake before clutch mamatayan ka indeed and kapag hindi ka alerto ay parang nagkakabayo ka ang labas.  Problem with the first approach kung mabigat ang paa mo using the clutch you get clutch burn.  A lot of bus drivers do this kaya mabaho madalas sa loob ng bus.

You use the clutch then indeed shift to neutral allowing the vehicle to glide on its remaining power then brake para hindi rin hirap sa makina.  That's what I was taught - and I did not go to a driving school at that.

Though I know in schools and in some books they advise a different approach.  Swerte mo lang if you can afford those cars that have sensors and do automatic braking.

[gorgeous_me]

^^me too sis,kakastart ko lang mag-aral magdrive,and namamatayan pa din ako,sa school,sabi kapag nasa 1st gear,first yung clutch then yung break,pero kung higher gear,break then clutch,however,kung nagslow na yung car mo,kahit nasa highergeat,pdeng clutch then break,pakiramdaman na nga lang daw...lol,well namamatayan pa din ako minsan,kasi mbilis ang release ko sa clutch,sana hindi na ako magpanic,wahaha

[geekchiq]

^^thanks sis cityhunter for the tips. Medyo nakukuha ko naman na yung mga different techniques fpr braking, basta practice lang talaga.

^e sis gorgeous_me, di ba bago pa yung car mo? Sa amin kasi 2nd hand car na dahil pareho kami ni hubby di marunong magdrive. Naku pag ako namamatayan, parang major sin sa biyenan ko yun. E hello kaya nga nagprapractice. Tsaka sis meron pang hanging, good luck talaga. Pero sa totoo lang mas confident ako magdrive na ako lang at walang mas kinakabahan kesa sa akin.

[gorgeous_me]

^yup sis, bago pa nga lang yung car, kaso kung lagi akong namamatayan, hays, kinuha ko pa naman manual, kasi gusto ko talagang masanay sa manual, kaso minsan, nagpapanic na ako, lalo na yung uphill, tapos mamatayan... kahapon nga, lumabas akong house, kasama ko brother ko, namatayan kami sa konting paakyat lang, kaloka, nagcause ako ng traffic, huhu...kainis, nawawala yung confidence ko, buti natawag ko yung friend ko na malapit lang don

[geekchiq]

^it happened to me din sis. I was causing traffic na rin plus umaatras pa ako and binubusinahan. Sabi ko bahala na sa gas, nilakasan ko tapak ko, pero nanginginig na left foot ko sa clutch. despite that, sabi ko sa sarili ko it won't stop me from driving. kahit napapagalitan ako ng biyenan ko, hindi siya magiging rason for me to stop. Although nakakakababa ng confidence. Kaya natin to sis. Maybe after two months ng pagvisit natin sa thread, kung saan saan na tayo nagroroad trip. Lakas lang talaga ng loob.

[gorgeous_me]

^uu nga sis, nakakababa ng confidence, lalo na kunwari yung kasama mo, ramdam mong naiirita, siyempre, nagpapanic ka na nga e...kaloka
nakwento ko nga din sa friend kong matagal ng nagddrive, sabi nya, ok lang yan, masasanay ka din, basta practice lang, ok lang na mabagal, basta ang goal mo muna, hindi mamatayan ng makina, kasi makakasira nga daw yun, so yun dito muna ikot ikot, kapag may kasama na magaling, pwede lumabas.
Nag-aral pa ako nito sa driving school, pero kabado pa din ako
tama sis, kaya natin to, tyaga tyaga lang, magkakasundo din kami ni clutch, break at gas....lakasan lang talaga ng loob, gusto ko kasi talagang matuto, hehe

[CityHunter]

Hindi talaga maiiwasan iyang mamatayan ka lalo na baguhan ka pa lang.  Even those who have driven before tapos hahawak ng ibang sasakyan maari rin mamatayan.  The best thing one can do is find a place na hindi masyado matao at maraming dumadaan na sasakyan and doon ka mag-practice.  Important iyan hanging and curves maliban sa parking. 

Mas tolerant ang diesel engine than gas though the latter gives better speed - not unless you invest in those hard to find Mercedes Benzes na Turbo Diesel.  Actually supercharger na yun not just turbo from what I was told.

Actually, mas maganda nga iyang kabado ka kasi alerto ka.  Observe na yun mga madalas nadidisgrasya mga over-confident sa skills nila kaya ayun nauwi sa bangga or what.

Try to wear rin yun shoes you often use.  I've seen girls wearing heels driving confidently when ako need ko talaga tsinelas o even mag-paa even then   In time masasanay ka rin - though ako nasanay with diesel kasi so transition sa gas kaya ayun namamatayan - tapos nadale pa ng baha ride namin

[gorgeous_me]

^ako din sis, nagpapaa na lang ako, mas madali kasi, LOL...tska hindi ko abot yung clutch, kaya pillow na lang, haha

[geekchiq]

^ako naman, i use thin soled shoes. Para mas feel ko ang apak ng gas.

[gorgeous_me]

^uu nga sis e, dapat nga thin soles, para masanay naman akong may suot sa paa, hehe

[CityHunter]

Yup.  Wear shoes not slippers.  Naranasan ko na wherein sumabit yun tsinelas between the pedals.  No idea kung closed front slippers or what pwede.  Well, if those who are able to drive wearing normal shoes could give their input ay it would be highly appreciated!

[tiggerlily]

when i was just a newbie driver, palagi rin ako namamatayan. kasama sa challenge yan ng manual driving.

lalo na kapag naka-hang.

what i do before is this: i make sure na hindi tututok yun nasa likod ko lalo na kung traffic - when i see them approaching, maghahazzard na ako tapos since nakastop ako kunwari paatras atras ako ng konti-konti. di na yun tututok. 100% effective. wala pang tumutok sa kin when i do this.

murahin nila ko for all i care. e sa hindi ko matimpla e di umurong sila para di madisgrasya. at least i warned them. usually kasi ang fear ng newbies e mapagalitan or mapagtawanan. when you feel nervous and you can't drive na as in your feet are shaking, stop. hayaan mo sila bumusina sa likod. 

kapag di ko talaga matimpla at nakahang. i use the handbrakes. it takes a little getting used to but you use whatever you can. mahirap magtimpla ng manual lalo na kung gas engine. easier sa diesel. hilahin ang handbrakes saka magtimpla. kapag natimpla na, slowly release the handbrakes and go...

this is what i did nun namatayan ako sa P4 parking ng shangrila. if you've parked there, you wouldn't want to have a dead engine in the middle. super inclined talaga sya at super curved. kung newbie driver, please wag muna itry magpark there. unless automatic drive ka.

the car behind me immediately backed up when it realized what was happening to me. and what's really funny is that i was laughing so hard - nawala ang nerbyos ko sa kakatawa dahil ninenerbyos yung kasama ko... he actually wanted to get out of the car and push it up. as if! 

[gorgeous_me]

^hay sis, grabe, ganyan din ako, minsan sa hanging, dahil newbie pa lang, naghahazard na kaagad ako, nung namatayan ako sa hanging, talagang binusinahan ako, nagpapanic na ako non, pero wala na akong magagawa, buti na lang at nakaakyat din, ngayon iniiwasan ko pa din yung hanging, haha...

nabasa ko nga sa ibang forum, na ang tindi daw ng parking sa shangrila, pagpapawisan ka ng malamig, parang ayoko na siyang makita, hahaha

sana makapagpark din ako sa mega at shang, pataas kasi e, mahirap na kapag natraffic sa gitna

[geekchiq]

Ako naman di maiiwasang dumaan sa hanging. Toll gates pa lang sa SLEX, present na ang mga hanging, ang tarik pa nung iba. Ang biyenan ko wants me to achieve timpla timpla on hanging without using the brakes or even handbrakes, as in [textspeak!] gas and clutch lang. He simply depresses the clutch if traffic and gas when it starts moving. Ang hirap kaya nun. Bahala na, until now hindi pa rin ako makapagsolo.

[gorgeous_me]

^wow, clutch at gas lang, nakakangawit nga lang sis e no, kasi ganyan kapag traffic, pero hindi ko pa nasubukan sa hanging, lol...

sinabihan pa ako ng kapatid ko, kasi traffic kahapon, sabi nya, "ayaw mo pang magdala ng kotse", wahahaha...nabubulag kasi ako minsan sa gabi, lol

[AVIDGOLFER]

Hi mga sis! Am still new to driving, and I still drive with an assistant on the passenger seat. I studied just this month sa driving school so hindi pa talaga ako magaling magdrive.

Anyways, kasi when I was in driving school, I was taught to use the clutch first and then brake when coming to a full stop. However, may nagsasabi I should press the brake first and then clutch. Kaso mas namamatayan ako pag ganon. And sabi naman ng biyenan ko who assist me on my driving practices, I should first place it in neutral and then assist na lang sa brakes. Hindi ko tuloy alam which one is the correct way? How  about you mga sis, anong ginagawa niyo?

Thanks in advance!

Guytalker here just less post....

use the clutch first and then brake - ang ganitong application ay pwede yan especially sa isang tulad mo na bago ka pa lang natututo.

press the brake first and then clutch - ang ganito naman ay para lang sa mga Experience drivers yan kasi pag ganyan dapat mabili din ang paa mo to press the clutch pedal para hindi mamatay ang engine.

first place it in neutral and then assist na lang sa brakes - eto ang kadalasan ginagawa ng mga drivers.


Sa mga bago lang natuto mag drive normal lang maging clutch driver, meaning lagi nakapatong ang left foot sa clutch pedal. Ang tendency ng ganito ay mabilis mapupud ang clutch disc kasi nagagas yan dahil sa bigat ng paa at hindi namamalayan na kumakagat ang clutch disc pag ganyan kaya minsan may naaamoy taong parang sunog na balat kasi made of leather naman ang clutch disc eh.

[geekchiq]

With regards to clutch driver, I dont let my foot rest on the clutch pedal naman. After shifting naman, I get to remove naman my foot from the pedal and rest it sa car floor. Although kapag I try to get out from parking or even sa mga eskenita, dun alalay with clutch talaga. Dito na ako nagiging clutch driver. Amd of course, when on an inclined road.

When it comes to braking, I do all of those techniques na depending on the situation kaya nagagamay ko na.

[CityHunter]

May I add really do practice and find time to check the vehicle before using it - which should be standard operating procedure.  I've handled some then na ang weird ng gap between the pedals.  Mayroon pa yun jeepney wherein the spring the helps bring back yun pedal gave out kaya nagkaproblema.

He he, trip ko iyang heel and toe technique but pag manalo na lang ako ng AE86. 

OT: Sa mga hybrid cars ba tulad ng Prius parang automatic na lang ba iyon lahat?  And is there a difference doon sa mga kotse ngayon na may selector or something yun gearshift as in pwede sa automatic o manual?  Ha ha, halatang nahuhuli na sa panahon.