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sarah29

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Re: Would you date a girl almost 10 years younger than you?
« Reply #60 on: January 22, 2014, 03:01:34 pm »
^ You actually said that you would rather be "doing" a 12 year old. Say that somewhere else, and see what kind of reaction you will get.

And lol.. wikipedia is never a considered "source." Either way, just because it was normal in the olden times, does not mean it is right.

wrongmistake

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Re: Would you date a girl almost 10 years younger than you?
« Reply #61 on: January 22, 2014, 06:21:20 pm »
I probably would, you never know until the opportunity is there.
But us being older we still have restraints. Unless hayok na hayok na.

cloudzy_09

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Re: Would you date a girl almost 10 years younger than you?
« Reply #62 on: January 22, 2014, 06:36:01 pm »
^ hahaha, why help her do her assignments when you should be doing her instead

Dont play stupid...
You just said you want to do a 12yrs old CHILD

sacred cow

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Re: Would you date a girl almost 10 years younger than you?
« Reply #63 on: January 23, 2014, 05:02:47 am »
Dont play stupid...
You just said you want to do a 12yrs old CHILD

I said that "instead of helping a girl do her assignments, you should be doing her instead" it was a joke directed at ragnar_danneskjold which he got (as seen by his reply below), and you obviously did not 

@sacred cow: You're right!

I'm gonna treat her like a homework. I'll slam her on the table do her all night.

Just kidding. I'm still not into kinse anyos. Haha.

girltalker also asked if a guy would be contented with just holding hands with a younger girl, to which I responded with

actually, I would consider a PG-13 relationship with a younger girl provided that the girl is less than 18.
why would I taint a mozita when her innocence is what makes her very attractive

I said that I'd screw someone who LOOKS 12-15 and not actually someone who IS that age.
basahin mo muna yung buong thread before accusing me of playing stupid

sacred cow

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Re: Would you date a girl almost 10 years younger than you?
« Reply #64 on: January 23, 2014, 06:09:03 am »
^ You actually said that you would rather be "doing" a 12 year old. Say that somewhere else, and see what kind of reaction you will get.

And lol.. wikipedia is never a considered "source." Either way, just because it was normal in the olden times, does not mean it is right.

Ang sinasabi ko lang naman, noon pa man uso na ang matatandang lalake na nagkakagusto sa mga batang babaeng na nasa murang edad. Naiintindihan ko kung bakit ka may violent reaction because of the reasons you mentioned, and I don't disagree with them.

What I do disagree with is your thinking that it is unnatural for men to find young girls sexually attractive, when in fact if not for that hindi na siguro tayo dumami ng ganito. Physiologically speaking, once a girl undergoes puberty...pwede na siya mabuntis, it means nature intended a woman to be capable of reproducing during those ages...of course it would only be natural that they should be sexually attractive to men for them to get impregnated. As time went on, man realized that it's not healthy for young girls to have sex too soon (because of the reasons you mentioned), that's why we came up with laws forbidding sexual relations with "minors"

however this does not mean that a few hundred years of social conditioning that having sex
with young girls is WRONG or ILLEGAL, would instantly turn off the genetic programming of men for thousands of years that a girl who has undergone puberty is already "doable" Which is why calling attraction to young girls "sick" and "disgusting" just reeks of bigotry and narrow mindedness.

Bonus for theists, it was said that Mary was only 12-13 when she conceived Jesus

http://christianity.about.com/od/newtestamentpeople/p/marymotherjesus.htm


sarah29

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Re: Would you date a girl almost 10 years younger than you?
« Reply #65 on: January 23, 2014, 01:10:45 pm »
You keep using websites as your sources. Hanap ka ng credible school, even an elementary level school, who would accept that kind of source. They are just not reliable.

Whether it's a joke or not, it's still not a good joke. Kahit san mo pa yan sabihin. Try mo magjoke na ganyan dito sa States baka dalin ka agad sa korte. It is sick, and disgusting. Accept it. Again, it's pedophilia.

I understand pwede ka maattract sa 12 year old. You can find them pretty.. but to consider "doing" them? That's pretty appalling.

It's not the fact that they are young. It's a CHILD. Hinde lang young girl, but a child. Heck I'm 21 and my fiance's 29. Nothing wrong with that. Pero we're talking about a CHILD here. It is sick. It's not because I'm narrow minded, it is because it's pedophilia. I'm not looking down upon it, nor making assumptions, I'm simply stating a fact.

And telling me to read the whole thread didn't help your case either. You actually made another comment saying na it's practical to date a 12 year, kase pag 32 kana, 22 pa lang sila, and they are still "sariwa." Calling a 12 year old sariwa? WTF? How sick is that. (BTW, I don't know where that post went, but it was there a while ago. Deleted or not, IDK)

And you don't disagree with the reasons mentioned, and yet you go ahead and defend what you said. Make up your mind.

Anyway, I stated my reasons. I don't usually "pick a fight" sa forums, but I was extremely appalled to see comments like that and so I felt that things needed to be said. I'm done.
« Last Edit: January 23, 2014, 01:13:00 pm by sarah29 »

sacred cow

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Re: Would you date a girl almost 10 years younger than you?
« Reply #66 on: January 23, 2014, 03:02:52 pm »
Fine, here are psychology journals supporting my claim that attraction to young girls is more common than you think.

Sexual Preference for 14-Year-Olds as a Mental Disorder
You Can’t Be Serious!!

b4uact.org/ref/Green-20100304.pdf

Hebephilia as Mental Disorder? A Historical, Cross-Cultural,
Sociological, Cross-Species, Non-Clinical Empirical, and Evolutionary
Review

emilkirkegaard.dk/en/wp-content/uploads/Rind-Bruce-and-Richard-Yuill.-Hebephilia-as-Mental-Disorder-A-Historical-Cross-Cultural-Sociological-Cross-Species-Non-Clinical-Empirical-and-Evolutionary-Review.-Archives-of-sexual-behavior-2012-1.pdf

The Mating Game  Isn’t Over: A Reply  to Buller’s Critique  of  the  Evolutionary
Psychology of Mating

www.cep.ucsb.edu/papers/DeltonRobertsonKenrick2006BullerReply.pdf‎

DSM-5: Call for Commentaries on Gender Dysphoria, Sexual
Dysfunctions, and Paraphilic Disorders

www.mhhe.com/hssl/newsletter/humansexuality/docs/KenZuckereditorial.pdf

Hebephilia Is Not a Mental Disorder in
DSM-IV-TR and Should Not Become
One in DSM-5

http://sax.sagepub.com/content/22/3/279.short?rss=1&ssource=mfc


Here are two more credible websites for easier reading

One from Psychology Today

http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/dsm5-in-distress/201106/dsm-5-needs-reject-hebephilia-now

Here's is something more cosmo-like, if you find empiricals boring

http://askthepsych.com/atp/2011/12/15/is-hebephilia-normal/

mooncake and leaves

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Re: Would you date a girl almost 10 years younger than you?
« Reply #67 on: January 23, 2014, 04:12:39 pm »
^ A quick Google search points to the fact that scholars/psychologists are divided in this issue you presented (hebephilia-- WTF indeed, lumayo na nang lumayo lol) so you are clearly cherry picking your sources. And what sarah29 was asking from you are academic ones and I highly doubt those studies will have headings like, "You can't be serious!". ;D 

In short, let's quit it with all this pseudo-intellectual babble dahil nakakatawa lang.

What I don't get is, anon, a GUYtalker, already pointed out that your desire to date a 12 year old is sick and you admitted it na, na ang taste mo is pang-pedophile but when a GIRLTalker points it out, you get all defensive. you can modify your posts all you want but this is what you posted o:


" i wouldn't mind dating a 12 yr old, if she's that hot... that's hotter than a lot of girls my age (26), however, I do have a preference for short and young girls... so pangit man aminin, taste ko yata talaga pang-pedophile...hahaha"


to which anon replied:

" that's sick, sacred cow, to even think of dating a 12 year old girl. excuse the bluntness but that's just wrong."


tapos may sumabat about dating a 15 yr old and helping her with her assignments and eto sinabi mo:

" why help her do her assignments WHEN YOU SHOULD BE DOING HER INSTEAD?"

this is your reply to anon:

"think of it in the long term, in 10 years, when you're in your 30s, she'd just be 22. hindi pa depreciated." -- objects lang talaga mga babae eh no?

"yeah, i know it's kinda sick even for me... i'm not saying i'd really consider dating a 12 year old, siguro at least mga 15 or 16 or a girl whose appearance is close to that age group."


i'd like you to read that again. if you still think this is normal, i dare you to show it to your parents, to your friends. since it's natural and normal, hindi ka mahihiya to show it to people, right?

personally, para hindi OT, i think men who prefer younger women with this kind of vehemence like their women docile and submissive because they suspect that a woman who knows better wouldn't date them.

P.S.
sacred cow-- Good job on the whole "here's something more Cosmo-like" comment too. That wasn't condescending (and typically misogynistic of you) at all. ;D

hisana

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Re: Would you date a girl almost 10 years younger than you?
« Reply #68 on: January 23, 2014, 05:20:03 pm »
I think dapat ang thread title mo should not be about dating a girl almost 10 years younger, but someone who is underaged or whatever age range you had in mind. Para clear. Ibang usapan na kasi ito. I know people are free to express their opinions here, but of course, expect to get slammed for even mentioning wanting to date a 12-year-old because you find her hot, no matter how innocent or justifiable you make it out to be. It's undeniably sexual, even potentially criminal if things get out of hand.

Followup! Tanong ng bf ko, eh papayag naman daw ba si hot 12-year-old makipagdate kay mid-20-something guy in the first place? Yung hindi bayaran daw ha. Well... :D
« Last Edit: January 23, 2014, 06:39:04 pm by hisana »

simang

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Re: Would you date a girl almost 10 years younger than you?
« Reply #69 on: January 23, 2014, 06:55:25 pm »
OFF TOPIC NA GUYS! Kalma lang :-)

^to answer your question, when I was 12, a 21 yr old guy sort of courted me. We never really went out on dates, kase he would go sa bahay, giving me gifts and flowers and all, and we texted a lot like a lot a lot. He even told me he loves me! fyi, im one of those girls who developed early, at 12 i had boobs and was relatively taller than most of my female classmates.

The texting went on for years and naging kami when i was 16 (he last saw me nung 14 ako, and he was surprised how 'dalaga' i looked na when he saw me nung 16 ako so he pursued me once again). We were a couple til I was 23, he was 32.

cloudzy_09

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Re: Would you date a girl almost 10 years younger than you?
« Reply #70 on: January 23, 2014, 08:58:38 pm »
Lol hindi nga tinatangap yang mga sources na yan kahit sa assignment ko noong high school.

Pls dont use the immaculate conception to justify your pedo thoughts.

Common sense na lang do you tell  this things to your parents, relatives and friends? Do you openly joke about doing 12 yrs old in public. Does majority of men find 12yrs old girls sexy and thinks of doing them? If not then it not normal and we are not the ones who are narrow minded....just NORMAL minded

sacred cow

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Re: Would you date a girl almost 10 years younger than you?
« Reply #71 on: January 24, 2014, 01:18:03 am »
^ A quick Google search points to the fact that scholars/psychologists are divided in this issue you presented (hebephilia-- WTF indeed, lumayo na nang lumayo lol) so you are clearly cherry picking your sources. And what sarah29 was asking from you are academic ones and I highly doubt those studies will have headings like, "You can't be serious!". ;D 

sarah29 asked me for academic sources which is why I gave her some psychology journals, that would support my claim that men have been attracted to young girls since the beginning of time, if you actually tried reading some of them, you'd know they're legit instead of slamming it at once just because of the title. journal articles are what researchers use in their papers, just like books they are also used in writing research papers. However I do know that you wouldn't believe what I have to say anymore regarding the matter no matter what evidence or empirical data I present simply because of the prejudice you have against me.



i'd like you to read that again. if you still think this is normal, i dare you to show it to your parents, to your friends. since it's natural and normal, hindi ka mahihiya to show it to people, right?

I don't need to, my friends and family already know that.

personally, para hindi OT, i think men who prefer younger women with this kind of vehemence like their women docile and submissive because they suspect that a woman who knows better wouldn't date them.

ah ok.

P.S.
sacred cow-- Good job on the whole "here's something more Cosmo-like" comment too. That wasn't condescending (and typically misogynistic of you) at all. ;D

hahahaha

sacred cow

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Re: Would you date a girl almost 10 years younger than you?
« Reply #72 on: January 24, 2014, 01:24:43 am »
Followup! Tanong ng bf ko, eh papayag naman daw ba si hot 12-year-old makipagdate kay mid-20-something guy in the first place? Yung hindi bayaran daw ha. Well... :D

may pumayag nga, I actually got the idea to start this thread when I read this:

http://www.businessinsider.com/this-24-year-old-chinese-popstar-is-dating-a-12-year-old-model-2012-9

sacred cow

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Re: Would you date a girl almost 10 years younger than you?
« Reply #73 on: January 24, 2014, 03:04:23 am »
Lol hindi nga tinatangap yang mga sources na yan kahit sa assignment ko noong high school.

malamang, why would you need psychology journals for your assignment in high school?
Now, I'm curious kung ano tuloy mga sources gamit mo for your papers in high school, or even in college. Seems like you were such a great student, puro books lang ba dapat sources kapag magcicite ng reference?

Pls dont use the immaculate conception to justify your pedo thoughts.

Again I'm just using it as an example, that during their time it was jewish custom na kinakasal na at nanganganak na yung mga nasa ganung edad. (kaw na magresearch, like how you did in HS) porke't ba against sa pinaniniwalaan mo hindi na agad totoo? blasphemy na agad?

Common sense na lang do you tell  this things to your parents, relatives and friends?

Yes, it makes interesting conversations and they don't react na galit na galit kaagad like you guys do

Do you openly joke about doing 12 yrs old in public.

If it's with friends, yes. I would utter the same joke

Does majority of men find 12yrs old girls sexy and thinks of doing them? If not then it not normal and we are not the ones who are narrow minded....just NORMAL minded

wow false analogy, just because not all guys find 12 yr old girls sexually attractive doesn't mean that it's already abnormal to find 12 yr old girls sexually attractive. If men weren't attracted to young girls then tell me why may market ang child sex tourism and child porn (a quick google search would back up this claim). I'm not saying it's right to have sex with a child, nor am I condoning it because I do know the implications of the law and the effects it would have on the child..all I'm saying is, it is natural to find the body of a pubescent girl sexually attractive, you would be naïve to think otherwise
 
It's just like falling for a married man, it's normal to fall for someone of the opposite sex but because he is married, you'd need not to act on those desires because of the implications (e.g. wrecking a family/ you'd be committing adultery under the law) So, when it comes to underage girls, though for some men it is quite possible to find them sexually attractive, you should also not sleep with them because you could possibly do lots of psychological damage or get a girl who's not yet ready to get pregnant, not to mention you'd also be committing statutory rape.

So I guess everyone has already said their piece and it's already pointless to keep this going, it's sad how this thread has deviated from the original topic. I guess it's up to the readers to decide on how they're going to take what's been said in this thread, who made sense, and who was just blurting out emotional outbursts by casting the first stone.

Just wanted to share this quote with you all:

"A person convinced against his will is of the same opinion still"

cloudzy_09

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Re: Would you date a girl almost 10 years younger than you?
« Reply #74 on: January 24, 2014, 09:01:59 am »
Maraming nangyayari since noong olden times in different cultures but it doesnt mean na its right or normal. And all those pscho babble from google doesnt prove anything na normal for grown men na maging sexually attracted to children. It does happen their are twisted ones who prefer children andd they call it phedophillia. Why dont you try google search again why its wrong and its not normal.

Ok so child pornography and child prostitution is a proof that its normal for grown men in general to find children sexually attractive.

I dont believe those because its simply not credible

I dont know anybody personally who likes 12 yrs old and joke about doing children. Thank god

krnmprl

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Re: Would you date a girl almost 10 years younger than you?
« Reply #75 on: January 25, 2014, 07:32:50 am »
Everybody CHILL  ;)

To sacred cow. You're a smart guy, and I admire your objectivity when it comes to modern relationships, but having sexual thoughts about a 12 year old is pervy, and I'm open minded  :) a 12 year old is a child! I guess 16-17 year olds pa, bit normal to have sexual thoughts about them. I guess just admit that you're a bit strange that way, that you're inclined to pedophilia, end of story. We're all a little weird when it comes to sexual stuff anyway.

ChocoCat

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Re: Would you date a girl almost 10 years younger than you?
« Reply #76 on: February 19, 2014, 09:26:22 pm »
Wow I got curious with this thread and whew it's hot lol!
Anyway, I just want to share my experience. I'm one of those girls whom a lot of people say looks really young for my real age and looks naive... Even in my 20s, a lot of people think I'm only a college student and even college students think I'm one of them lol.
Based on my experience, the men (35-40s) who showed interest in me were really sweet and showed they care.. at first.. but eventually I sensed their true intentions because of their seemingly innocent offers such as dinner treats, gifts until they would ask me to go with them some place or even ask me to go their house as their guest or to just hang out and even.. sleep.  :o
So I think they actually go for really young girls not just because of course they are young and fresh but also because of the innocence which means they are more gullible and would likely to believe whatever they are going to say to them.
Unfortunately for those guys, I'm not that naive, I just look like one.  :P

akthung

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Re: Would you date a girl almost 10 years younger than you?
« Reply #77 on: February 20, 2014, 06:26:35 am »
i think at age 12 to 18 or even 21, girls and boys are not that much sure of themselves.

maybe if one is looking for a serious relationship, he or she would naturally opt for someone more assured of what he wants in life or wants in a person,

pero kung fun fun lang. exploration. bahala ka. sky's the limit. paka enjoy,

kung below 18, huwag ka lang pahuli. lol. may mga forgiving parents, pero meron hindi.

minsan din fragile ang isip ng ibang tao, or should i say bata, at meron pa silang starry view about relationships, when everything goes sour, ayun nagwawala sa buhay.

***
or baka visa lang habol niya. hahaha
« Last Edit: February 20, 2014, 06:55:47 am by akthung »

minatay91

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Re: Would you date a girl almost 10 years younger than you?
« Reply #78 on: February 22, 2014, 09:44:51 pm »
Napabasa ko sa sinasabi ni chococat hehe.. well a guy who is 11 years older than me is going on "friendly dates" with me. Good thing with most older guys usually financially stable and may career so first date namin sa resort. xD And you dont have to worry about splitting the bill because usually these guys know better na to impress, dapat di talaga ipabayad si girl no matter how much she insists :) ;) idk what he sees in me lol pero parang common na ata sa society. Im still watching out for his true intentions. xD

sacred cow

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Re: Would you date a girl almost 10 years younger than you?
« Reply #79 on: February 23, 2014, 02:32:31 am »
^ true intentions nya is to screw a chick 11 years younger than him...true story bro

 

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