Helper na nakakasira ng mga gamit, Salary deduction ba?

[Kady_14]

Hi mga sis,

Alam ko maliit lang ang salary ng maids, pero paano kung palaging nakakasira ng mga gamit sa bahay? Let's say kunwari kada laba, merong na sisira or nacclorox-an. Sa mga kitchen mga nababasag. How do you deal with these things?

Ako kasi hindi ko pa nagawang mag salary deduction, pero merong one time na tempted na ako talaga kasi in 1 year 3 beses ako bumili ng plantsa dahil nasira nila. (2 helper ko nuon and pareho sila ngpplantsa) Meron naman maid dati, nung nag-ooffice pa ako, laging nakukupasan mga pamasok ko.

Can you share panu siste nyo sa ganun?

[twelvth_goddess]

Ilang maids na namin ang nakasira ng gamit (dinner ware, clothes, some glass displays, etc!) and even my yaya is mejo clumsy when it comes to handling things, lageng nakakabitaw ng gamit. It annoys me to death and ilang beses ko na winarn na ibabawas ko na next time sa sweldo so mejo nagtino naman.

IMO, kung nakasira ng valuable na gamit (and expensive), dapat talagang ibawas sa sweldo especially if it was due to neglect or carelessness. Dapat din nilang maintindihan na just because we have the capacity to pay for help eh it doesnt mean that we have money growing on trees that we can use to buy things.

[jmeangeL]

nope... hindi naman laging nakaka-sira ehh, kaya OK lang

pagsabihan na lang para hindi maulit

[aquacharly]

KADY_14  Yeah,  I know it is quite impractical to expect them to reimburse you for damages -- hindi na yan babalik after mag off.  But neither can  you just ignore; and thus, give them the attitude  that they don't need to upgrade their level of carefulness.     

So what I do is try to narrow down as best I can the margin for error, thru that MBA/management classic mantra:  KISS  (Keep it Simple. Stup1d)

For example:  si Lavandera ---   May laundry sorting system kami so that hindi na nagiisip or decide is lavandera how to treat/wash clothes.
Categories namin:   PERLA (for whites);  SURF detergent (for pambahay clothes):  IVORY bar soap (for panlabas clothes);  PERWOLL (for darks and blacks);  WOOLITE (for delicates not sent off to The Valet Shop)   VICTORIA detergent (for towels & bed linens).  O, di ba KISS.  May hampers kami with the above IDS in bold print, laminated & attached to each hamper.
Now, como ang nakakakita sa amin and familiar with the category of our clothes is the yaya and my old-time cleaner,  sila ang go down to segregate in the hampers (haha, parang garbage segregation)
\So KISS nga, si lavandera washes by batch/hamper,  hindi puede halo halo.
Finally, para walang heartbreak --  expensive items -- I just send off to The Valet Shop, or i or my long-time cleaner wash it kami mismo. 

So there, Shobe KADY_14 --  como mas madali pigain ang bato for blood, quesa expect them to reimburse you for damages --  you really gotta follow: KISS & spend time training them.  Patience is a virtue.  Sometimes, hindi sa mapanira but ignorante or talagang hindi nakasanayan na hwag gumalaw parang kalabaw.  But I will not also go converting them, hello tatanda ako before hubby (who is 10 years older na nga).  So, ayon: get experienced helpers & KISS

[Doink!]

Yung kavandera ko na stain yung blouse ko with a bleaching agent. My yaya naman nabasag din yung glass shelf ko. I just gave them a warning muna but if they would be careless again, I'll be forced to make them pay na talaga.

[super bratinella]

Naku, househelp namin nasira ang fully auto Washing Machine pero hose inlet lang naman nabasag, nakakagigil kasi investment namin tapos masisira so pinagawa ko, then sumunod after malinisan ng wall fan namin hindi na umaandar, so tinapon ko na lang binenta sa junk shop, then my maternity dress may stain ng clorox.

Sabi ko so isang beses pa na makasira or mamantsahan ang damit namin, talagang walang ligtas na talaga, salary deduction na talaga ito.

[gorgeous gal]

sa ngayon, no pa naman. hindi naman palaging nakakasira ng gamit. pero minsan, hindi mo din maiwasan mapikon kasi yung mga gamit na pinaghirapan nyo pagipunana, masisira. minsan naman, yung mga gamit na hindi naman mamahalin, pero nakakasakit pa din sa bulsa bili ng bili uli ng bago.
sa ngayon, puro warning at paulit ulit na sabi na magingat para wag na maulit. siguro pag mejo mabigat na yung nasira, salary deduction na.

[candy_tone]

if more than 3 x na napalitan yung plantsa i think you should give them a warning na kapag nakasira pa sila uli they will have to reimburse para mag ingat naman sila.  Regarding naman doon sa plates i think hindi na kelangan ibawas sa sweldo kasi accidents do happen.

never pa naman na mantsa ng labandera yung damit namin we're using Ariel bar soap for our clothes and sa baby perla bar soap... We dont use any clorox. 

[SnowBall]

hindi ako nagbabawas ng sweldo kapag may nasisirang gamit sa amin or nabasag, laging bilin ng mommy ko
sa akin, kaya nga sila katulong, kasi yun lang ang kaya ng utak nila.

Kaya basta mabait, masipag, hinahayaan ko na, as long as huwag naman paulit ulit, mahahalata mo naman yun eh
kung sinasadya na or not.

[hersmart4ever]

Dapat tine train din sila sa umpisa how to do things properly. If they are really the bright types of people, hindi ganyan ang trabahong papasukin nila. Although meron namang iba na temporary, habang walang work o habang nagaaral, nagkakatulong muna kahit may mga wits naman. Wala lang kasing choice. Kailangang alalayan din ang mga maids. I explain how to do this and that if the bosses have the upper hand. Proper orientation ika nga. As for me, sa delicate stuff, hindi ko hinahayaang katulong ang gagawa.

[pinkpotato]

no we dont. di naman lagi. kung mga damit man cheap naman na clothes mga namantsahan, pero yung medyo special i reiterate na ingatan. so far intact pa naman

mga dinnerwares we use ikea stuff lang naman kaya di masyado sasama loob ko pag nabasag.

[JayLan]

Pinagsasabihan lang namin.  Nakakaawa din naman kung isa-salary deduct pa, wala ng matitira sa sweldo nila.  Siguro kung sobra na, baka pwede pa pero kung minsan lang at di naman sinasadya, hindi na lang.

[vain_kixie]

My mom said, sirain daw talaga ang plantsa. You really have to buy over and over. We have had one
plansadora for 12 years now and I don't think she's dumb to make sira the iron several times. Tagalang
sirain talaga.

Yung yaya ko now that I am married, nabutas yung shorts ko, hinayaan ko lang. Kawawa naman kasi
If palaging nakakasira ng gamit, i would opt to just let her go. Mainis lang ako kaya bye bye nalang.

[crayzee]

nope. as much as we wanted to parang unfair din for them. what my mom always do is make sure na alam nila gamitin. kasi mas pangit na quality ng gamit ngyaon unlike before. for expensive clothing kami sarili nag laba and iron same din sa gamit. kami sarili para walang sisihan. 

[zoeymaicaboo]

no, deducting their salaries seems a bit harsh, kahit minsan nakakainis na talaga.
warning lang and paulit ulit na reminder sis.  And if too many mishaps na, you can try lessening their tv time for the day.
I have a small whiteboard right outside their room for daily reminders.  i also use post-its and stick them near the objects for special instructions written in our dialect.
For example, yung helper namin palaging nakakalimutan ilabas ang mop  sa banyo kaya  nilagyan ko  ng post it "dito ilagay ang mop pagkatapos gamitin" hehe  
for laundry mishaps naman, spend a few hours to teach them how to wash the laundry properly.  kahit one day lang just watch over them pag naglalaba and i-supervise  and instruct mo sila step by step. 

[merchee]

last feb ata ito, mom just went from a shopping spree that time so pinalabahan niya yung mga dresses niya sa labandera namin. tapos yung isa, (ang gandang dress) nagka-stain sa lower part ng dress. nanghinayang si mom kasi like niya talaga yun. pero nilagyan lang ng stain...eh parang satin pa yung dress (not sure).
 
so what she did, ni-salary deduction niya...pero binigay niya sa labandera yung dress. It wasn't the first time din na nangyari...ako ata yung may pinakamaraming clothes na nasira/nagkaroon ng stain during her stay with us.

[gab54]

lagi ko sinasabi na isa-salary deduction ko sa kanila, pero never ko pa nagawa. Parang naaawa ako last minute 

[pinkpotato]

last feb ata ito, mom just went from a shopping spree that time so pinalabahan niya yung mga dresses niya sa labandera namin. tapos yung isa, (ang gandang dress) nagka-stain sa lower part ng dress. nanghinayang si mom kasi like niya talaga yun. pero nilagyan lang ng stain...eh parang satin pa yung dress (not sure).

ah pero kung ganito, nilagyan talaga, abay ibang usapan nga naman na yan. sadya e.

[ceejhei]

^ i only deduct sa mga ibang gamit, pero kung sa damit, pinag sasabihan ko lang. my previous maid, nabasag ang center table namin
as in nag split into two. i asked her what happened she told me pinupunasan lang daw niya nabasag na bigla. i asked my daughter what happened
sabi ng anak ko inupuan daw nung yaya.

tinry kong itanong kung magkano yung ganong klase ng salamin, they gave me a price of 5000. i deducted 500 pesos lang sa salary niya
para magtanda na ingatan yung mga gamit. bakit mo uupuan ang center table, andun ang sofa katabi lang ng center table bakit dun siya uupo,
yung crack kasi nasa gitna at mahaba, obviously inupuan nga.

[felmitz]

^ i only deduct sa mga ibang gamit, pero kung sa damit, pinag sasabihan ko lang. my previous maid, nabasag ang center table namin
as in nag split into two. i asked her what happened she told me pinupunasan lang daw niya nabasag na bigla. i asked my daughter what happened
sabi ng anak ko inupuan daw nung yaya.

tinry kong itanong kung magkano yung ganong klase ng salamin, they gave me a price of 5000. i deducted 500 pesos lang sa salary niya
para magtanda na ingatan yung mga gamit. bakit mo uupuan ang center table, andun ang sofa katabi lang ng center table bakit dun siya uupo,
yung crack kasi nasa gitna at mahaba, obviously inupuan nga.

nakakaloka naman yan ano kaya nakain niya? pero ang bait mo 500 lang talaga binawas mo ah