Author Topic: Utang  (Read 15987 times)

redgirln

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Re: Utang
« Reply #20 on: November 07, 2012, 03:21:10 am »
nakarelate ako sa post mo sis muy, si hubby din dati bago kami ikasal daming pautang na wala ng bayaran at dami rin nyang utang. Minsan pag may nagsabi sa kanya, lahat oo ang sagot nya kahit na wala ng pera, kesehodang mangutang sya para may mapautang din. ayun ang ending sapin-sapin ang utang nya, pero ang mga pinautang nya e wah pake magbayad... kaya after ng wedding namin, sinabi ko sa kanya na ayusin nya na ang mga utang nya at wag na syang uli gumawa ng utang lalo lang lumalaki ang gastos. Hindi na kami bumabata at need namin magstart para sa future namin. Sinunod nya naman ako, natutong syang magbudget at magplan kung saan dadalhin ang sahod nya. Ngayon, wala na syang utang, yung lang natitira yung niloan namin sa bank pero we put naman sa investment so okay parin. Pag may nagsasabi ng utang sa kanya, no na agad ang answer nya, at kung talagang importante or emergency like relative na maysakit, e pinapaalam nya muna sa akin bago sya mag yes, ang sagot muna nya sa gusto nyang pautangin e "titingnan ko", tapos after he got my appove tsaka sya magyeyes.
Siguro sis, sa ngayon kaya medyo maluwag sa pagpapautang ang h2b mo is kasi wala pa syang pinaglalaanan ng sahod nya kasi nga single pa sya pero sis after siguro ng wedding nyo dun nya palang maiisip ang future nyo kasi nga mag asawa na kayo. IMO lang sis. ;) sana may sense.

agape

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Re: Utang
« Reply #21 on: November 07, 2012, 03:45:29 am »
Better make a plan how to redirect where his money goes.
Also don't make the mistake of lending him some else mababaon ka rin sa utang.
Remember where his treasure goes there goes his heart, too.
My officemates akong nangungutang but they offer to pay with interest pag aabutan ng buwan, saka Meron ng PDC. I also stay away from people na mukhang Pera, those who manipulate others para makalibre Lang.

maiandra

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Re: Utang
« Reply #22 on: November 07, 2012, 05:36:36 am »
It's not only money na malaking issue when you get married. Also transparency and openness with each other. 40k is a big amount and you should discuss that first because soon his money will be your money. He might even change his FB pword now that you found out some things and he's irked. Maybe you can really think about it for a looooong time first and delay the wedding for a few more months?

littlekinselle

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Re: Utang
« Reply #23 on: November 07, 2012, 07:51:03 am »
I'm not used to nangungutang,nd nag papautang.. Kasi,mahiyain ako nahihiya ako maningil. But my uber closed friend na nasa canada he asked for a favor na ako muna mag padala at he will pay it the day after so ako naman si stupid dahil closed friend ko ei pumayag ako na mag padala ng 8,500 pesos lang. But up to now dipa niya nababayaran yun. Pero kung makapag post ng pics sa FB new Iphone5, naka DR.beats headphone, nka macbook pro. But to think wala pa sa $200 yung utang niya di pa siya nakakabayad.. Ang kapal ng muka, everytime na nag,mmsg ako sknya wala ignore lang..
Bkit kaya may mga taong ganon?. Sabi ko nga di na ako aasa bayaran niya abuloy ko na lang sakanya yon.. P*ta siya.. Lesson for me.. Wag na wag na Mag papahiram ng pera,sa friend kahit super closeckayo.

jan888

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Re: Utang
« Reply #24 on: November 07, 2012, 08:46:15 am »
sis muy003.. how sure is your h2b that his katrabaho is really spending that amount of money to work abroad? and if totoo nga nag abroad, how sure is he na the katrabaho will pay him back or baka mag disappear na once nasa greener pasture na?  kahit sabihin mo, close friends..money is the root of all evil ika nga..  I heard recently, a friend loaned to his bff a couple of million pesos with a promise of higher interest rate return.. eh what happened after, his so called bff, went abroad and never to be seen and heard again..  so hard earned moolah all gone in the name of friendship..

Priceless

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Re: Utang
« Reply #25 on: November 07, 2012, 08:56:45 am »
Sis muy003:

When in doubt, don't.

muy003

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Re: Utang
« Reply #26 on: November 07, 2012, 11:30:59 am »
^ sobrang nanlaki mata ko dito kasi this was my BB status since last night. Ayun..

muy003

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Re: Utang
« Reply #27 on: November 07, 2012, 11:52:14 am »
^im learning so much from you ladies. Paulit ulit ko nga binabasa. Di ko pa sure whats my next step. Hes acting as if wala lang, pero di ko muna sya kakausapin. Muni muni muna ako.

Di nya agad DAW sinabi regarding the workmate kasi alam nya may ongoing issue pa with this friend na unang nangutang. Balak daw nya sabihin sakin pag andito na sya next week. Alam nya daw kasing lalo akong maiinis.

Grabe lang magtiwala sa kaibigan. Im not up for this kind of sh1t. Di namn kami mayaman so 40k is such a huge amount na kung ipautang nya, napaka risky at masakit mawala ang amount na yun. Sa mga unang napautang nya, lagi ko sinasabi na ipautang lang yung amount na kayang maloss. Eh di ata nagiisip talaga ito. He trusts na babayaran sya kasi the friend will be working for the same company. Ang sakin lang, if may papers na aasikasuin so the friend could leave, 10k is enough. Direct hire sila, no agencies. POEA lang. Kasama na travel tax sa 10k na yan, libre naman ticket. libre ang lodging for one month. pangkain, andami nilang magkakaibigan dun, di sya magugutom! Besides they have separation pay from former employer, ano yun, tengga lang? I know na around 50k ang makukuhang amount ni friend. So nakakalito lang talaga why he had to borrow pa. That's besides the final pay ha. I read their conversation and my h2b didnt even ask why friend had to borrow, sige lang agad, tas kelan ba kailangan. Nakakainis.

Thanks for reading and sharing ladies! I really appreciate knowing your thoughts on this matter.

agape

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Re: Utang
« Reply #28 on: November 07, 2012, 12:07:35 pm »
I'm not used to nangungutang,nd nag papautang.. Kasi,mahiyain ako nahihiya ako maningil. But my uber closed friend na nasa canada he asked for a favor na ako muna mag padala at he will pay it the day after so ako naman si stupid dahil closed friend ko ei pumayag ako na mag padala ng 8,500 pesos lang. But up to now dipa niya nababayaran yun. Pero kung makapag post ng pics sa FB new Iphone5, naka DR.beats headphone, nka macbook pro. But to think wala pa sa $200 yung utang niya di pa siya nakakabayad.. Ang kapal ng muka, everytime na nag,mmsg ako sknya wala ignore lang..
Bkit kaya may mga taong ganon?. Sabi ko nga di na ako aasa bayaran niya abuloy ko na lang sakanya yon..
As to close friends, I had a kumpare siguro 2 yrs after pa binayaran yung 5k, nag AWOL kasi sya to work e. Also my best friend, nag USA, binili nya yung celfon ko pero utang, so pag uwi nya after a year saka lang din nya pay yung 7k. I lend 30k as pocket money to my friend who went to SG, he left me with 3 PDCs na lang. I don't let mere money ruin a friendship.
Maybe, post on your friend's wall or timeline para mapahiya naman sa utang nya. Or tag him/her sa wall/timeline mo para di nya ma-delete, if you have common friends, or you can tell it to his/her family. Mahirap din kasi if wala kayong kasulatan. How was the communication? Siya ba talaga yung nakausap mo? Dami kasi scam now thru emails e. Pero me mga tao talaga na mukhang pera, to think usapan ko with my relative in Canada to pay my airfare 1200$US, abonohan ko raw muna, aba hindi na rin ako binayaran. Kung ako lang, hindi ko naman sya bibisitahin dun kung ako rin lang magpay ng own airfare ko e. I charge it to experience na lang.

wifeynikawin

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Re: Utang
« Reply #29 on: November 07, 2012, 03:37:03 pm »
hay naku Sis! ang hirap nga nyan. ako, nagpile up na utang ko :-(

gab54

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Re: Utang
« Reply #30 on: November 07, 2012, 04:55:43 pm »
hay, dati lahat ng lumalapit sakin na uutang, pinapa utang ko. so far may friend na umutang ng 150k sabi next month, 3 years na wala pa... may 50k, 10k, etc. nakakainis, lahat hindi ako binayaran...
this year, naka isip ako ng idea, tutal ang daming nangungutang, might as well gawing kong negosyo. so far, nakak 5months na ang lending biz ko. pero hindi ako ang nag mamanage may partner ako...  :)
« Last Edit: November 07, 2012, 05:46:00 pm by gab54 »

whitelady17

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Re: Utang
« Reply #31 on: November 07, 2012, 05:07:19 pm »
TS, im not sure if you will agree on this one, but try to check your zodiac sign http://www.astrology.com/whats-your-attitude-toward-money/2-d-d-51782 I believe kasi some of the pala utang falls under a certain zodiac. ;) para alam mo kung sino ang iiwasan ninyo haha

marssie

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Re: Utang
« Reply #32 on: November 07, 2012, 05:09:37 pm »
Sis TS, natawa naman ako sayo, namomokong mo na si hubby to be mo sa inis hehe.. pero tama ka,mas nakakainis ang mga taong wagas kung makautang basta na abroad ang inuutangan, akala e ganon kadali maglabas ng pera. Pag nasa abroad ka (or kahit nasa pinas) pagkatangap ng sahod,ang unang ginagawa bayaran lahat ng dapat bayaran, padalhan ang dapat padalhan, ibudget ang pera para sa buong buwang dadaan at ang tira, itabi.  Minsan itatabi mo na nga lang uutangin pa, so kung ikaw ang nagtatrabaho sa abroad, nagtitiis ng lahat ng hirap kasama na ang lungkot, lalong nakakadagdag ng sama ng loob na makitang ang buong sahod mo napunta sa bayarin at pautangan, maghihintay ka nanaman ng isang buwan kung kailan ka sasahod. Nakakadepress kaya makitang ang tagal mo na sa abroad tapos 1000 pesos lang laman ng bangko mo,kulang pa sa maintaining balance na 2k ;D Minsan naman kahit may extra ka,pag pinautang mo at bigla ka nangailangan naku ikaw naman ang mangungutang.. Kaya sabihin mo kay Hubby to be mo yang extra money niya padala na kamo sayo at itatabi mo na para sa future niyo,pag may nangutang sa kanya sabihin niya ipinasok ng wife to be niya ang pera sa mutual fund or nakatime deposit ;D

ayka

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Re: Utang
« Reply #33 on: November 07, 2012, 07:15:36 pm »
sis muy003,
in your status now as a gf, pwede pa niya gawin iyan. yung magpa-utang sa ibang tao kahit di na siya bayaran (di ba parang bigay na yun, if ever?)- ala "santa claus" ba. but once you get married, since every asset/property becomes conjugal, you have every right to manage his money. since you're the wife. unless hindi niya ipagalaw ang pera niya sa iyo eh, ibang usapan na iyon. you should make him aware of that set-up. if he can change, why not? but if he's not ok with it and still wants to treat other people more lavishly than the way he treats you, eh nasa sa'yo na yun kung kaya mong tanggapin at lunukin habang buhay ang ganong habit. you might end up having problems and venting them out here in GT once you get married (*knock on wood*). i'm just being realistic. it's hard but the decision is yours, sis. it's a serious matter/problem for which you really have to get down to the nitty-gritty of it.

littlekinselle

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Re: Utang
« Reply #34 on: November 07, 2012, 08:21:23 pm »
Sis Agape and sis Gab sorry for my typo error, :P anyways I already msg. his mommy di naman nag reply yung nanay niya saken his cousin naman sabi saken sa pinas daw madami daw talaga pinag-kakautangan ng friend ko na may utang saken.. ang lalaki pala ng mga pautang niyo, ang hirap mag pautang lalo na friend at kapamilya  kung kapatid, and magulang mo okay lang sana kahit wag na bayaran pero once na sinabi na "BABAYARIN DIN KITA" so aasa ka na babayaran  ka talaga nila para kang umaasa  sa wala haha.. sabi naman ng mga commons friends namin 8,500 pesos is still a money mahirap kitain un. pang bili ko din sana ng clarisonic mia. saka namatayan ako twice this year sabi ko ipadala na lang niya sa mga kamag anak ko yung money aba aba di man lang nag reply. well sana mabayaran na kayo ng mga may utang sa inyo ang laki laki ng amount na yun ha kung sa aken 8,500 lang.. hay sana makunsensia na sila.

maiandra

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Re: Utang
« Reply #35 on: November 08, 2012, 02:21:28 am »
sorry kung medyo OT, pero thanks sis whitelady17 sa link, nakakatuwa yung money matters regarding sa zodiac sign, totoo talaga! haha

showermist

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Re: Utang
« Reply #36 on: November 08, 2012, 09:46:54 am »
TS, nandyan na yan. What you can do though is to prevent him from lending money to people who are obviously taking advantage of his 'generosity' in the future. Pag may legal ka ng 'reign' to his finances.

Now how are you going to do that? Mag usap kayo pagbalik nya. Discuss yung financial aspect ng relationship nyo lalo na kung papakasal na kayo.

Finances/money plays a very big part of your relationship.l Let's not be hypocrite about that. Oo, you love each other--but you need to money to survive. Kaya dapat you're both in sync on this aspect.

If it's possible, lay your financial goal. Ask him kung ano rin ba ang goal nya. At kung ano plano nya pag kasal na kayo. 

It will not be an easy coversation lalo na kung igigiit pa rin nya yung gusto nya. Try to make him see kung ano resulta ng pagpapautang nya.

Pero kung ako ikaw, I will ask him direct, "Nagyayabang ka ba kaya ka nagpapautang? Panay pautang mo wala ka namang ipon. Gusto mo siguro isipin ng tao na mapera ka at malaki kinikita mo abroad ano?"  But this is me. I am brutally frank. Sometimes.

Anyway, good luck!

ayka

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Re: Utang
« Reply #37 on: November 09, 2012, 01:04:49 am »
Pero kung ako ikaw, I will ask him direct, "Nagyayabang ka ba kaya ka nagpapautang? Panay pautang mo wala ka namang ipon. Gusto mo siguro isipin ng tao na mapera ka at malaki kinikita mo abroad ano?"  But this is me. I am brutally frank. Sometimes.


^agree! brutal, but true!

Girltalker2

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Re: Utang
« Reply #38 on: May 09, 2013, 01:26:13 pm »

^ sis, nakalista na ba lahat ng inutang ninyo at lahat ng binayaran ninyo sa isang listahan?  agree on your hubby first, kung na recall na ninyo talaga lahat lahat.

then, upuan ninyo ang BIL mo, talk to him, ito lang kasi list. puede pakita list ninyo at baka may na miss out kami.  then just see kung meron talaga.  baka benefit of the doubt, may namiss talaga kayo.


gab54

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Re: Utang
« Reply #39 on: May 09, 2013, 01:30:14 pm »
Habang hindi pa kayo nagkakagulo, tell your BIL to please write a breakdown of your loans, with dates and descriptions if possible. If he cant, show him your own list with dates & descriptions and say yung lang ang alam mong utang ninyo. Then see from there baka naman sa pag uusap, maalala mo na kulang ang list mo, or marealize ni BIL na may sobra sa list niya. In the end, maybe magkaroon kayo ng compromise and klarong usapan on how & when to pay.

 

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