TRETINOIN THREAD 5

[oshiawase]

second week ko na and di pa din ako nag ppeel. SIguro manipis na skin ko kasi i've had 3 sessions of TCA na eh.

Wala din akong purging. So I dunno if this really works. How long kaya bago makita yung result?

[oshiawase]

Also, naglalagay kayo ng sunblock kahit nasa loob ng bahay?

[rae]

^^ At least 3 months yung may obvious difference

^ Yes, technically. Because my day moisturizer has spf. Pero kapag alam ko na may outdoor activity, naglalagay ako ng sunblock

[innocent_beauty]

^^ yup sis oshiawase ako nag lalagay ako ng sunblock kahit sa loob ng bahay pero yung hindi heavy like serum type spf ang maganda. pero kapag aalis or lalabas ng bahay na higher spr na .

[oshiawase]

^ edi parang walang pahinga ang skin kasi laging naka sunblock?

[innocent_beauty]

^ ok lang naman sis kahit nasa bahay naka sunblock same as ruffa at claudine kahit nasa bahay naka sunblock din sila sis, kc yung ilaw, oven, computer at yung lutuan nakakasira din ng skin yun kapag nadadarang ka sa init eh and like other celebrity they use sunblock din sa bahay makinis ang skin nila and effective naman sya kc my skin looks good din naman so for me is o.k lang naman sya.

[WickedWitchOfTheWest]

^agree. may incidental UV exposure din from lights and computers, not to mention from light seeping through the windows. Although yung wavelengths naman from computers and lights very minimal lang, it doesnt hurt to be safe and the skin needing to breathe is a myth. It only needs rest from using too many actives that can irritate your skin, pero kung ok naman regimen mo, consistency is key.

[oshiawase]

^ i have SPF45 here. How many hours can it last?

[WickedWitchOfTheWest]

^depende sa formulation ng sunscreen. Usually chemical sunscreens can last for a max of 2 hours, after which you have to reapply or mas todo damage kesa not having used sunscreen at all. For physical sunscreens naman, pwede na one application lang, basta hindi ka naman in full sun exposure, pag nasa beach or outdoors, apply every 2 hours to be safe.

[innocent_beauty]

ako I have 3 kinds of sunblock pag sa loob lang ng bahay I use spf25  enough for me for the whole day then pag lalabas na iba naman gamit ko I use spf 50 +++ then sa body naman iba din so 3 gamit ko, maarte kc ako sa mga sunblock hehe      at may nabasa ako sa isang magazine ba yun( japan )  that they don't use beach sunblock sa for everyday daw kc madami syang oil para mag stay sa skin during activities sa water kaya mga suncreen ko din hindi pang beach since hindi naman ako nag pupunta beach.

[rae]

^^ True. That's why I prefer sunscreens may physical blockers (i.e., zinc oxide and titanium dioxide)

I don't find it practicable to reapply sunscreen every few hours kung wala naman sa beach.  Sobrang kakapal ang mukha ko literally.

[oshiawase]

eh? anong diff between chemical and physical sunscreen? O.O

[WickedWitchOfTheWest]

^sa ingredients sis - usually physical sunscreens have a combination of zinc oxide and titanium dioxide or one of each as the active ingredient. Chemical naman has avobenzone and a bunch of other ingredients to keep it stable. It gets kinda complicated actually, if you want to know more about sunscreens, you can google info on sunscreen stability, etc.

[rae]

^^ chemical sunscreen - a term they use to refer to sun protection ingredients that absorb UV rays. chemical sunscreen usually degrade over time upon exposure to air and/ or sunlight, that's why you have to re-apply. Upside is, most chemical sunscreens does not give the skin a white cast.

physical sun protection ingredients (sunblock) - are ingredients that reflect uv rays (as opposed to absorbing them). they don't degrade under the sun, particularly zinc oxide (titanium dioxided degrades but only a little). There are only 2 of them zinc oxide and titainium dioxided. If it stays put, there's no need to reapply. But if you're on the beach or in a non-airconditioned environment, it might be removed by sweat or water (i.e., swimming). Downside, since it reflects UV rays, you can get a whitecast.

Note: A sun protection product can contain both chemical and physical sun protection ingredients.

For more info, there's loads of available articles on the net.

[rowan]

hi guys! i read in this thread that 2x tretinoin use is recommended for first time users. is it okay if i start at once a week? my first and only application of 0.025% tret was last sunday and up to now i still experience minor peeling and skin tightness. last monday din medyo namula/nagdarken skin ko. i really don't want to experience the ugly stage of tret. my derma only gave me tret to decrease pore appearance. may effect pa kaya tret even if once a week na lang? she also gave me obagi melamix, hydroquinone for sun spots. after reading articles online, ayaw ko talaga masyado pagsabayin tret and hydroquinone. i was instructed to apply both on my whole face, not just on affected areas but right now sa dark spots ko na lang nilalagay melamix kasi nga ang dry pa rin ng skin ko. to combat dryness, i use moisturizer din. i feel the tightness lang after washing my face.


what do you think guys? thanks!

[ilovejdy]

mga sis
my derma gave me .025 tret
ok lang ba iapply to around the eyes? thanks

[rowan]

^ hi, ive backread this thread and some mentioned that they put tret around the eyes but when i asked my derma, she said no. ask your derma na lang rin to make sure:)

[mhing_myaw]

ay alam ko nga bawal yun tret sa eye area...

mga sis ask ko lang kung pano ba tamang gamit ng tret?

gamit ko stieva a 0.5, once a week ko lang ginagamit... ok lang ba yun? kasi pag madalas parang nakaka dry? or dapat daily? pero daily yun moisturizer ko na loreal

tsaka pala hindi ako nag su-sunblock kasi pang gabi naman work ko. tapos sa umaga pag uwi umbrella lang. enough ba yun? kasi kung mag sunblock ako before alis ng house, e gabi pa yun pag sa uwian na wala nang epekto, parang malagkit naman kung maglagay ako ng sunblock kung di pa naka hilamos... ahehe... tama bang pinag gagagawa ko?

at ano kaya kung i-alternate ko yun .05 sa .025..

tsaka bat ganun yun effect nya sakin parang pag tinitigan yun face ko parang makapal yun balat ko..pero mga after 3days ok na ulit. ive been using tret for almost 10years na. paganun ganun lang. once a week tapos minsan nakakalimutan ko pa... hehe

[sushisundance]

 I've been using Retin-A since Feb, naka 2 maliit na tubes na ko, pero ang naging effect lang sakin ever since eh nag purge ako ng sobra. At ngayon ang dami ko ng pimple scars. Also, nabasa ko rin na nakakadry to ng skin, eh oily ako pero lalo ako naging greasy! Like, pag nagpunas ako ng face ko gamit tissue malagkit talaga. So nagdecide na ko magstop ang iniisip ko kasi di talaga ako hiyang dito. Has anyone experienced the same?

[WickedWitchOfTheWest]

@rowan and @mhing_myaw - better not to use tret than to just it once a week. The most you can go by is two nights off tret, tapos back to tret on the third night. Tret works by irritating the skin to force it to produce collagen for repair. If there's too much rest period, the skin reverts back to its original state. Studies have shown na stopping tret also reverses its effects, yan ang isa sa mga disadvantages niya.

Ok to use tret 2x per day as part of a very aggressive regimen, you actually get faster results, but chances are you'll be red and peeling for the first two to three months. If you can afford the downtime, go for it, if not, stick to the more gentle approach to avoid further irritation. In any case, use of sun protection is imperative as tret increases the skin's sensitivity to the sun, making it more prone to sun damage.

And it is ok to use tret on the eye area, just use with caution - apply sparingly or mix with your bland moisturizer. 3x a week is enough. Research and don't believe everything your derm tells you. Local derms are known to prescribe prolonged use of hydroquinone and careless prescription of oral isotretinoin without the necessary bloodwork usually required.