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cocoysmom

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do you breed for business?
« on: September 17, 2012, 08:22:32 pm »
i hope i don't open a heated discussion here.

in my "younger" days, i did buy my 1st purebred dog from a breeder, then later wanted our pet to have a partner so we bought another. hindi pa kasi ako mulat sa horrors ng backyard breeding that time. we've had two litters from their partnership and we managed to keep them all.

now a relative wants to go into dog breeding. i discouraged him. i mean, i feel at most, bawi ka lang esp if you'd really take good care of the dogs. sa food pa lang kasi na ipapakain mo bago ito mag-heat at manganak malaki na, wala pa dun yung vet care ha. it's not a profitable business sa mind ko kasi hindi sya income generating daily like other businesses. or mali ba ako? kasi madalas nakikita ko ads online daming nagbabagsak-presyo na lang mai-dispose lang ang puppies esp sa shih tzus, which is my most favorite breed. :( i feel that supports my "thinking" na hindi sya ganun kagandang business, but as i've said, i wouldn't know... ;D

i made this topic to ask, not to question our GT sisters' decision to why they're into it. so no negativity pls on your comments, replies... ;) let's all widen our horizons by hearing their experiences, opinions, etc. thanks.

Naiv25

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Re: do you breed for business?
« Reply #1 on: September 20, 2012, 05:27:22 pm »
kahit sino responsible/reputable breeder will tell you walang kita sa pag bbreed unless titipirin mo ang alaga mo. im not a breeder though i tried to breed my girl para lang magkeep ng pups ang main reason. pero kung business, id rather sell dog related stuff muna.

Huntress Krystle

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Re: do you breed for business?
« Reply #2 on: September 20, 2012, 06:15:37 pm »
Hello sis cocoysmom, sana ok lang na sumagot ako even though I'm not a breeder.

Like you, nagkaron na din ang pet (my first dog) na galing pa actually sa pet shop. Unaware din ako nun sa puppy mills or stories of horrible breeders who treat their dogs like machines. I'm fortunate na these days, very aware na talaga ako which gives me more opportunity to become a responsible dog owner.

Personally, I believe na madami din naman talagang breeders na "maayos" at mapagpapatiwalaan. I always say that the best way to know if the breeder is trustworthy is to visit his place personally (kung pwede nga eh unannounced pa) and see for yourself the condition of his pets and how they're being treated. And also, mas ok sakin na "mabusisi at matanong" yung breeder kapag may interesadong bumili nung alaga nya. Kasi dun mo masasabi kung talagang may genuine concern sya dun sa alaga nya. If he'll ask you questions kung paano mo aalagaan yung pet. Kung pwede nga sana ay may contract pa eh. Para talagang may assurance yung breeder na hindi itatratong parang object lang yung alaga nya.

I originally wanted to breed my shih tzu. Actually, kaka-anak nya lang this year (3 boys), and originally, I wanted to sell them. And you're right sis cocoysmom, magastos at time-consuming talaga. Kaso I changed my mind after becoming a supporter of PAWS. Sabi ko, I'd be happier encouraging dog lovers to adopt dogs nalang from shelters since there are thousands of abused/abandoned stray dogs who also need our love and attention, or to adopt aside from buying their favorite breed (if they can). So ang gagawin ko now, I'll have the 3 boys neutered pag safe na and I won't breed anymore. Personal belief ko lang yun.  :)

As for puppy mills and horrible breeders, I will never understand how they can abuse animals for money. Kasi ang pera, hindi kayang pantayan yung pagmamahal, loyalty at lifetime commitment sayo ng isang pet. Sadly, napakadaming ganitong cases dito sa atin. Magpunta ka lang ng Cartimar or Tiendesitas, you will see poor conditions of animals on pet stores. Kaya ako, hindi ako bumibili sa pet store na nagtitinda ng pets. Dun ako sa exclusively pet supplies lang ang binebenta. Kasi the more you patronize their shops, the more they will continue breeding and more animals will suffer.

Dun naman sa mga interesadong mag breed, sana talaga mag-research sila ng todo kung pano magiging maayos yung business nila at siguraduhin nila na magiging maayos yung kapakanan ng mga alaga nila (within or outside their care). Hindi yung puro pera lang talaga ang habol. Dapat tumulong sila mag spread ng awareness regarding responsible pet ownership (eg. the importance of spay/neutering, vaccinations, good diet, exercise, etc.).

So in conclusion, I'd go for adoption or buying from proven/reputable/trustworthy breeders.
« Last Edit: September 20, 2012, 06:23:41 pm by Huntress Krystle »

cocoysmom

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Re: do you breed for business?
« Reply #3 on: September 21, 2012, 01:43:38 am »
thanks mga sis sa replies...

@sis huntress...hi sis, like you, i also support PAWS & CARA. kaya not one of my baby's pups ever got sold, nahiram o nahingi oo, pero pinagbili wala. kaya nga ata i didn't sound convincing to my relative when i told him that it's not profitable eh. hehe. i've also told him hindi pwede yung every heat, you'll breed the dog, kasi the health would suffer. so kung mahal mo yung aso mo, hindi mo siguro kayang ganun gawin sa kanya. even my adopted aspins, i make it a point na magkahiwalay ang boys and girls. i'm still saving up for their spaying/neutering eh, medyo madami-dami kasi sila. ;)

i keep praying nga may magsabi sa kanyang naka-experience na mag-breed para maliwanagan sya. i've already pointed out ang daming kennels na closing out. ang mahal na kasi ng dog food eh, tapos vet costs pa, grooming. ewan ko talaga...nakaka-frustrate.  :-[ sabi nga ng mother ko, pakialam ko ba, bakit daw ako sobrang affected, eh ewan ko ba, i fight against animal abuse pero sa sarili kong kalahi may balak pa atang maging backyard breeder.  :(  i heard his plans kasi parang lahat ng sinabi nya peso sign ang katapat, walang concern sa aso, eh shih tzu pa naman. grrr...

twelve5

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Re: do you breed for business?
« Reply #4 on: September 21, 2012, 04:26:45 am »
I know a breeder, mahal mga pups nya kasi proper care ang binibigay nya. Some pups are flown pa to the south.

Imo, breeding as a business is not bad per se basta you exercise what it proper. Problema nga kasi quality care = high cost. So mahirap makapag compete sa puppymills and madami rin tao di aware sa conditions ng puppymills. Basta mura presyo, buy na agad.

So if ever you decide to venture into dog breeding, ok lang. Dapat kasi ma educate din buyers kung ano ba tama at maayos na breeder. Kasi quality din ng pups nila yung issue. Hopefully pag dumami responsible breeders, mawawala puppymills. (Mejo tall order ata. Hehe)

twelve5

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« Reply #5 on: September 21, 2012, 04:47:42 am »
Btw, i know another breeder na pag "rest season" (dunno ano bang tama term), they accept board and lodging ng pets. So hindi abused yung mga aso nya na mate ng mate nalang. They also earn between seasons.
« Last Edit: September 21, 2012, 04:49:25 am by twelve5 »

bibibuy

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Re: do you breed for business?
« Reply #6 on: September 21, 2012, 04:49:46 am »
ako naman, if someone wants to buy the puppies ok lang, but i dont literally announce them. dun lang sa talagang interesado mag alaga ng dogs

Huntress Krystle

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Re: do you breed for business?
« Reply #7 on: September 21, 2012, 08:49:04 pm »
@cocoysmom: Nakakatuwa ka naman. Sana dumami ang taong katulad mo na may genuine concern talaga sa animals.

Mahal nga spay/neutering. ;D Sa PAWS/CARA ka lang ata makakatipid.  ;D

Sana hindi na matuloy yung breeding business na balak ng relatives mo kung pera talaga yung priority nila. Kawawa talaga sis yung mga aso. Tsaka paano kung sa mga irresponsible na buyers pa mapunta yung mga tuta at mapalahian din nila, lalo lang lalaki ang problema.

Andami din kasing cases na syempre, yung ibang breeders eh 'magpapabango' ng pangalan. Madali kasi magsinungaling unless makita talaga nung buyer yung kennel mo eh diba. Andali sabihing "Alagang-alaga namin ang mga aso namin at maayos ang sistema namin." Tapos mauuto naman agad yung buyer. Mahirap pa nun, yung ibang buyers, they buy because of impulse. Kunwari, na-cute-an sa shih tzu or nagandahan sa husky, bibili na agad. Hindi muna sila mag research ng tamang pag-aalaga. So sa ibang cases, kapag asa kanila na yung aso, "ma-ooverwhelm" sila dahil malaking responsibilidad pala ang mag-alaga ng aso. Tapos kapag nahihirapan na sila, the dog gets neglected nalang. Yun ang masakit. Kaya hindi lang sa irresponsible breeder ang problem. Asa irresponsible buyers din. Nangyayari is paulit-ulit lang yung cycle and thousands of dogs suffer. Yun ang "sana ay maiwasan."  :-\

May mga kilala kasi ako sis personally na bibili-bili ng aso dahil cute daw o kaya gagawing pang regalo sa syota or whatever. Tapos pag tumagal, napapabayaan na yung aso. Naiinis ako sa ganun eh. Parang ginawang 'temporary entertainment' o laruan lang yung aso na kapag sawa na sila eh babayu na. Kaya sana, yung mga breeders talaga eh "interviewhin" ng maigi yung bibili.

Isa pang hindi magandang sign is kapag madaming breed ng aso ang binebenta or pinalalahian nung breeder. Siguro maximum na yung 3 breeds. Eh yung iba, ang yabang pa. Kesyo lima pataaas daw yung breeds na binebenta nila. It's impossible to be 'knowledgeable' sa ganun karaming lahi. I remember dati may nasakyan akong taxi driver na breeder din pala ng madaming klase ng aso. Nag-away talaga kami. Dahil obvious na mukhang pera lang sya. Ni wala nga syang aso na umabot ng 8 years old man lang eh. Lahat namamatay ng maaga dahil anak ng anak.

I hope more people would learn to adopt dogs/cats also. Tingin ko talaga mas mamumulat mata nila sa kalagayan ng majority ng aso sa bansa if they'll try adopting. And I'm sure they'll be better, more sensitive and more compassionate pet owners.
« Last Edit: September 21, 2012, 08:53:00 pm by Huntress Krystle »

xxmiakaxx

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Re: do you breed for business?
« Reply #8 on: September 21, 2012, 10:20:56 pm »
I agree  @Cocoysmom @Huntress Krystle

Ang daming  Bad Breeders na pet profiteer , it indicates that those breeding will profit and they all do.
and problem din ang  irresponsible buyers na thinking na nakabili ng good breed  then after nito
sila din ang mag start ng ganun Business  .....


I suggest  talaga if your having pet maganda  un may significant meaning sa buhay mo
like Rescue and Adoption  knowing naka pag save ka ng life is really remarkable things to do as
human being ....   ;)

snix

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Re: do you breed for business?
« Reply #9 on: September 22, 2012, 10:54:06 pm »
i don'thave any plans of breeding kaya nga boy yungkinuha kong lab.. okay na siya sakin and if i had a bigger space for another dog i'd like to adopt na lang another male dog din..

though i don't think breeding for business is bad.. i watched my aunt ad uncle breed their dogs for years.. sinisigurado nila na maayos yung pups as in kumpleto sa vaccine until mabenta at sinisigurado din na maayos yung magiging owner ng pups.. they also make visits dun sa mga nabentahan ng pups nila..

what i hate is yung mga breeders na kala mo baboy yung alaga nila para paganakin ng ganun at manloloko pa mg mga buyers na kesto kumpleto nadaw sa vaccine para lang mabenta pero hindi nama talaga..

my bf plans on breeding his female lab and i strongly advised him na pagisipan mabuti kung profitable ba talaga at sabi ko lagot siya sakin kapag hindi niya siniguradong maayos yung pups lol

abuanddiego

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« Reply #10 on: September 23, 2012, 01:50:21 am »
ako naman, sa tingin ko di talaga appropriate gawing business ang mga dogs. just like what you've said sis cocoysmom "bawi ka lang kung talagang inaalagaan mo ang mga dogs" with this, tandaan natin ano ang responsibility/papel natin as pet owners----ito ay alagaan silang mabuti. kahit sa animal welfare act, puro about taking care lang, wala naman sinabi na may kapalit yung mga gagawin natin sa kanila. so pag hinaluan na ng business, maiiba na ang concept of dog ownership, in short di na dog ownership tawag dun but source of income.

i believe na ano man ang hinangad natin nung kinuha natin sila, hindi natin maitatanggi na companion pa rin natin sila. and when we say companionship, labas ang usapan ng pera dito. diba kahit sa family or friend, kahit sa couples madalas pera pinag-aawayan, hanggang sa masira na ang relationship. iba kasi ang nagagawa ng pera sa isang relasyon, at alam naman natin na ang business, kakambal na nyan ang maghangad tayo ng pera/kita. so pag pinaghalo mo silang dalawa, expect na magkakaproblema talaga. kasi para mo na rin sinabi na "companion ko business ko" hindi ko masabing business partners kasi obviously lamang na lamang tayo kung tayo ang business partners nila haha! at di naman ganun magwork ang partnerships diba, kundi fair dapat palagi.

ang mas malungkot lang dun is tayong mga humans, pwede magreact, ipagtanggol ang sarili. pero ang mga dogs, may voice ba? :-\ luging-lugi sila sa ganitong situation. kaya hanap na lang ibang business, wag na mga animals. Ipakita natin na hindi tayo mas masahol pa sa hayop haha!

obvious ba na extremist ako? ;D masyado ko kasing vinavalue yung relationship namin ng mga alaga ko, at bilang caretaker nila, I feel like we should be the ones providing for them and not the other way around.

cocoysmom

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Re: do you breed for business?
« Reply #11 on: September 23, 2012, 08:59:24 am »
^hay naku sis, sinabi ko na ata lahat ma-discourage lang sya. nasasabihan na nga akong pakialamera eh kasi mega-react ako. pasensya sya, ako ang tinanong nya. hindi talaga ako nagsisi sa decision ko before na huwag magbigay sa kanya ng puppy ng mga babies ko. kundi hindi, baka mga apo ko pa ang naabuso nya. awang-awa nga ako sa inaalagaan nya ngayon kasi parang may peso sign sa noo yung mga aso. :( nakakainit talaga ng dugo sis...parang tingin nya dun sa binili nyang dogs commodity. namumuhunan. laki ng tubo. ganun ang terms sis. the nerve pa na sabihan akong, ang laki ng ginagastos ko sa mga alaga ko, dapat ibenta ko daw para makabawi naman ako. sinagot ko nga na "ah hindi ko binibilang mga ginagastos ko para sa mga alaga ko. parang anak ko din sila na ginagastusan ko." sabi nya, "dami mo siguro pera." eh naiirita na ako, kaya sabi ko, "marami pa, kaya hindi ko sila kailangan ibenta." (kahit wala, hehe. i was hoping na nainsulto ko sya actually) ang sama ko ba?  ???

abuanddiego

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Re: do you breed for business?
« Reply #12 on: September 23, 2012, 05:15:14 pm »
^sabihin mo sis "ako kasi hindi ko pinagkakakitaan mga anak ko. nakakahiya kasi kung sila pa yung pagtatrabahuhin ko kung malakas naman ang katawan ko" ;D wag mo isipin na masama ka sis, magbago man ang pagikot ng mundo kahit kelan hindi naging masama na alagaan mabuti ang mga hayop. iba-iba lang talaga ang klase ng tao sa mundo. at may mga tao na kahit anong eksplanasyon, hindi pa rin maiintindihan yung passion natin sa mga alaga natin. malungkot nga lang kasi minsan tayo pa lalabas na mali, luka-luka, oa, eh so what? mabuti ng ganun tayo kesa sila yung pahirapan natin para lang magkapera tayo.

Hindi ko talaga alam kung bakit hindi maintindihan ng iba na part naman talaga ng family ang mga pets natin, duh? kailangan ba lumabas pa sila sa sinapupunan, makatayo sa dalawang paa, at magsalita para lang masabi na part sila ng family? tingin ko nga sa mga pets, mga adopted kids natin at once magdecide tayo na kunin sila, wala ng atrasan. Magulang na nila tayo forever at never na magiging source of income. Pag ginawa natin yan, para na rin tayong pumasok sa prostitution at tayo ang mga bugaw ;D

Pero mahirap kasi talagang makipagtalo pag salungat tayo ng isip, lalo lang sila magagalit at magrerebelde. Kung sa tingin nya may kita sa ginagawa nya, then so be it, hayaan nyo syang maranasan lahat ng hirap. may mga tao kasi na sadyang matigas ang ulo, and sometimes we just have to let them learn the hard way. Naniniwala ako na ang mga bagay na sa simula pa lang ay mali, sa huli hindi rin magwawagi. kala siguro ganun kadali magbreed ng aso, hintayin nya sis pag di sya nakabenta tapos yung mga puppies naiwan at di nya macontrol ang kakulitan at amoy, tapos wala na rin pagkain hehe tignan nyo kung hanggang san kaya nya ;D It takes a real dog lover to bear with all their antics at kung hindi ka dog lover by nature, susuko at susuko ka rin in the end.

Buti na lang hindi sa kanya napunta ang puppies mo, ang sakit kaya pag nakita mong "ganun" lang ang tingin nila sa mga apo natin. Continue mo lang sis yung ginagawa mo sa mga dogs, try your best na wag na makipagtalo, tignan nyo after 3-4years, kennel closing na din yan ;D

Huntress Krystle

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Re: do you breed for business?
« Reply #13 on: September 23, 2012, 09:18:57 pm »
Alam nyo mga sis, ako, personally, ilang beses na nasabihang "makapal ang mukha" at "pakialamera." Although hindi related sa breeding yung case ko. More on neglected, abused pets.

Yun kasi ang payo sakin ng PAWS. To be proactive. Lalo na kung may "batas" naman ako na ipinaglalaban at asa tama ako, wag ako dapat paghinaan ng loob. Kaya dito sa subdivision namin, ilang aso at pusa na din ang na-rescue/natulungan namin. May mga nakakausap din kami na open naman sila na alagaan ng mas maayos ang pets nila. Pero marami din talagang sila pa ang galit at makapal ang mukha.

Kung nakakakita kana sis cocoysmom ng proof of "neglect" dun sa mga alaga ng relative mo, you could show her the copy of our animal welfare act. Asa section 6 kasi yung regarding pet neglect at pwede talaga syang mai-report sa ginagawa nya.

Sana maipatupad na yung new animal welfare act. We need tougher punishment talaga sa mga kumakawawa sa mga hayop.

abuanddiego

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Re: do you breed for business?
« Reply #14 on: September 23, 2012, 09:37:57 pm »
ay oo nga, kahit ngayon pa lang pwede mo na sila bigyan ng copy sabay hirit ng "I'm watching you" plus hand gesture ;D kailangan lang may proof at willing magtestify ang witness diba tapos pwede na sila kasuhan. siguraduhin nya kamong susundin nya yung mga nabasa nya kung hindi tanggal na ang "source of income" nya may kaso pa sya.

minnie99

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Re: do you breed for business?
« Reply #15 on: October 02, 2012, 10:10:17 pm »
Breeding is never profitable, or rarely, if ever. There is so much more to "breeding" than having two "purebred" dogs mate.

Like most of you girls, we bought our first female purebred golden retriever (sired by champion daw, sige na nga) from a petshop in a mall. Take note, we got her for 18,000! Right now as I think of it, it's too much!

And then I didn't know any better when she was "old enough". We were excited to have her bred! Luckily (we just didn't know how lucky then), we found a great dog to sire her first litter. He was from a Carebear line, which I didn't really know what meant at that time. Had I known that he is from one of the best lines of goldens there is, I would have bought him when the owner was selling him to us for 30k.

Anyway, our Happy (first golden) gave birth to her first puppy. Her only puppy from her first litter. We were pretty much disappointed at first but enjoyed having Prince anyway. He was one of the cutest and biggest dogs we've ever met! Needless to say, we had Happy mated with another golden again, this time, she gave birth to TEN puppies, two with hernia (died) and one stillborn. We weren't so concerned that she seemed to have lost a lot of weight (ribs very prominent) thinking it was pretty normal. But she never grew back to her old size (she's big boned).

Thinking she's too old and too thin to have another litter, we kept one female puppy, Vodka. By this time I had become more proactive in learning about dog care, so I had learned the terms "responsible breeding" and "puppy millers". But being just another kid at home nobody would ask my opinion. So our kasambahay (yes, she acts like our boss) convinced my mom to have Vodka mated with a champion. She just produced her first litter this July. She had 10 puppies, 1 died before they turned 2 weeks. But that wasn't the worst of it:

-Vodka was really tired from labor. She looked the same as Happy did when she gave birth to 10 puppies. Her ribs were poking.
-What was worse was she did not know how to be a mother. She would accidentally trample a puppy. She would pull at one. She was extremely protective that at one point I think she was willing to kill off one of her own puppies.
-Her fur was falling out! The vet diagnosed her with hypo (or hyper, don't remember) thyroidism, manifested when she gave birth (extreme stress). This is something that could affect her for life. We had 8000 in bills for Vodka alone. Good thing the vet was nice enough to nominate Vodka to avail of a 1 month free trial of dog food for sensitive dogs. Otherwise, 3 kg would've cost us more than a thousand pesos!

Never mind that one puppy needed to be on oxygen for 1 night because he couldn't breathe properly! I had SLEEPLESS nights because I wished that I had been more proactive. I blamed myself for not stopping anyone.

After 2nd week, everything was fine. The new problem would come when it is time to sell the puppies! I took extra care in background checks. Never mind that the puppies would stay with us longer, just as long as they go to caring homes. I was particular about the females as I did not want the buyers breeding off of them. Thank God they eventually got new homes, but it took us at most 2 1/2 months. By which time, I had become very attached to each puppy.

BTW, a guy offered to buy some puppies so he could sell them at his pet shop. NO THANKS! I know they'll just put my babies in a small crate and display them, leave food there, and not clean the cage at all. I'd rather my puppies be adopted by caring families than be displayed for weeks inside a small crate at a pet shop.

So, happy ending right? Not really.

I learned so much from this litter. One is that you can never be 100% sure about the "purity" of the puppy you are about to buy. Though I believe that Happy, Vodka, and Prince are purebreds, I can never be sure. This last litter, we have a puppy with a black spot behind his ear. SOMATIC MUTATION is what I researched. But is it? We also have a puppy with a browner face. Is he a mix? Is his fur still changing colors? WE DO NOT KNOW.

Papers can be faked. Just as diplomas can be faked.

Breeding, in most countries, or at least, in old times, was like NATURAL SELECTION. Only the best males are bred with the best females to produce the best specimens, and from there, they pick the best puppy, and it goes on and on. That's why we have breed standards. That's why we have dog shows.

Would I breed again? Maybe in the future. When I learn more about the breed I want. But that takes a lot of learning, and I know I must acquire only the best specimens. But never again will I breed without considering the health of the dam and her future litter. And never will I breed to get money off of them.

I hope you girls learned something from my long post haha. I am not condemning breeders, that would be too hypocritical of me. Although I said I would rather have not bred Vodka, I enjoyed taking care of her litter. But it was an emotional dilemma for me too...

I just want everyone to be aware of the consequences, not just to you, but also to your dog.

abuanddiego

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Re: do you breed for business?
« Reply #16 on: October 03, 2012, 12:06:02 pm »
^How old were Happy and Vodka when they were bred? How many times ang stud session? Ang alam ko, one session is enough to make puppies, 2nd session is para makasiguro lang, pero kung healthy sila both at fertile ang dam, sureball na yan during 1st session. Different sperms can fertilize diff. eggs at diff. times at ito yung nagreresult ng maraming puppies. That's why it is not advisable to perform the 3rd stud session. Dadami lang sila pati complications like overdue pups which can cause death. I've also learned that mothering abilities can be passed to daughters, at baka ito yung rason bakit same ang nangyare sa kanila during pregnancy. Kamusta si Vodka ngayon? Try to give fish oil and provide a very healthy diet, sana magimprove condition nya.

Madalas kasi, naeexcite ang mga owners pag babae ang dog, kasi nga naman makakapagproduce ng puppies, iniisip agad puppies=money. But as owners, dapat iniisip din natin ang welfare nila lalo kung may complications or hirap sa pregnancy. It's a sign na hindi suitable ang b*tch for breeding kaya mas mabuti na ipahinga na sya.

Marami akong kilala na mas gusto ang females kasi daw may kita pag nanganak at bakit daw males mga alaga ko, sayang daw kasi di ko mababawi ang mga ginastos ko sa kanila :-\ Iba-iba talaga ang pananaw ng tao, pero sana hindi puro pansariling interes lang ang nasa isip nila.

minnie99

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Re: do you breed for business?
« Reply #17 on: October 03, 2012, 12:52:45 pm »
^Hi sis! They were of age naman na. Vodka was actually 2 years na, Happy naman halos ganun din. 2x mating session, but both of them, di nagtake. So back stud, which is 2x din... I think the first time is attributable to lack of experience haha. Dapat kasi diba bawal magtatakbo yung dog kapag bagong mate... then baka masyadong mataba si Happy noon...

About the traits, I wasn't surprised! Vodka kasi is a kid at heart so expected na na di siya marunong. Happy is more gentle with her kids, and with her grandkids,  ;D Si Vodka ngayon, she's okay, she's strictly on hypoallergenic kibbles... though her fur is still not as "malago" like before, and hindi pa rin siya ganun kataba, but better body na...

Hay nakakainis talaga yung puro breeding lang iniisip... I mean, at one point, enjoyable siya, pero for me it was just because puppies are adorable... but it was never for the money... Kung hindi lang super laki ng gastos ng mom ko dun, eh pina-pamigay ko na lang lahat... pero syempre, kawawa din mom ko dahil siya nga gumastos...

Kaya nga nung may nagtatanong sa female, sobrang defensive ako, tinatanong ko agad bakit? And as much as possible I would like to meet the buyer... kasi dun mo malalaman kung gusto ba talaga nila ng dog o gusto lang nila ibreed...

Anyway, I don't want to encourage breeding by saying this next statement, but if you want to breed, acquire only the best dogs in the breed you choose. This guarantees you better puppies, plus good health na din...

abuanddiego

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Re: do you breed for business?
« Reply #18 on: October 03, 2012, 05:32:40 pm »
^see kahit nasa tamang edad di pa rin tayo nakakasiguro na magiging okay ang pregnancy. I doubt kung ready ang lahat ng gusto magbreed if ever magkaron ng problema gaya nung nangyare sa inyo. Breeding also requires money lalo pag may emergency, sana lang naiisip nila yun diba.

Agree ako dun sa kumuha ng best specimens kung balak talaga magbreed. sa dami kasi ng backyard breeders ngayon, nasira na yung ganda ng lines ng mga aso. Yung iba napipilitan pa magimport para pure yung lines nila. magastos oo pero ganun talaga if you want to produce good dogs, dapat lang na maganda ang foundation.

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Re: do you breed for business?
« Reply #19 on: October 04, 2012, 03:58:26 pm »
^Sadly, some owners of champion dogs (especially male dogs) don't really screen mate-candidates... Hehe, like in our case, they found a champion sire for our dog...

On a lighter note, I know someone who owns a female champion na sobrang ayaw niya ibreed basta basta.

Siguro best na rin to have an executive checkup before having the dog mated para at least may idea kung saan mahina/lacking yung dog. :)

 

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