TRADITIONAL vs PROGRESSIVE?

[1choi_ko9]

If you were to choose which one do u prefer and why? For you, your pros and cons. Your recommended schools for your chosen curriculum? And so far, how was your child enrolled in these kind of schools?

TIA

[maeosedeleon]

Yung isa kong anak nasa traditional school run by sisters, yung isa nman supposedly progressive, specifically montessori. Doon sa traditional, super strict. Ultimo lose button or haircut kino-call kaagad attention nung bata at magulang. Hindi ka titigilan ng note sa diary hanggang sa aksyonan mo. Yung nasa montessori nman, ok sana kaso the school settled for teachers na hindi montessori trained kaya based sa kwento ng anak ko at observations ko na din, prang nagiging traditional na din. Nagco-corporal punishments na din, pinapanganga yung mga bata kpag daw maingay class nila, pinapa-squat and so on. In terms of lessons nman, ok itong progressive kase mas gumagamit sila ng materials to explain concepts. Kahit papaano, may natutunan anak ko. Yung sa traditional, madalas the student is left to study by himself, do projects na imposibleng kayanin nung bata mag-isa and lessons are half-baked. Para bang, "o ayan, tapusin mo nalang sa bahay" kase yung teacher magtre-train pa ng mga batang isinasali nila sa mga competitions and what-not.

[Pampsky]

Oooohhh... Im also intersted in this topic. Mommies, please reply... Im from Paranaque, and Im interested to know good pre-schools around Alabang.  As in your top 3 to 5 pre-schools in Alabang. And if moms here prefer traditional or progressive teaching?

[mommyniuja]

Ako mas gusto ko sana ang progressive, my 2 daughters for the last 2 years, progressive school sila pero lilipat na kame ng traditional this school year. Wala naman akong hindi nagustuhan sa progressive except na super konti na ng magiging classmate niya, mga 5 students na lang ata sila kasi lahat halos liipat na dahil sa k12.

Isa pang gusto ko sa progressive is hanggat hindi namamaster or kahit naiintindihan lang ng student yung lesson is talagang tututukan ng teacher para maintindihan niya unlike sa traditional na lipat sa lesson 2 si teacher after ng lesson 1, maintindihan man o hindi ng student ang lesson nila.

[lent0t]

for me sis, for preschool progressive is good kasi alam nila na not all kids has the same pace in learning. so for each kid individualize sya and tulad ng sabi ni sis mommyniuja pag di naiintindihan ng students di sila mag forward sa next lesson. medyo relax ang environment and fun ang dating ng teaching method nila.

traditional school is more of the teacher lectures and the students listen and copies the lessons on the board. i was a product of traditional school, i guess i'm okay naman hehe.

pag elementary and HS traditional is ok for me, ang progressive kasi parang di na ok for their age relax pa rin yun environment. di pa naman ako nakakakita ng progressive na high school... so no idea ako.

[Princess_Chill]

hmm interesting....

hindi ko kasi masyado kabisado ano ginagawa pag progressive school e...sabi ng isang sis natin here na
if a student hindi pa niya ma gets iyong lesson 1 hindi mag proceed sa lesson 2..so paano iyong ibang mga classmates? hintayin siya? or tuloy tuloy lang sila?

[mommyniuja]

hmm interesting....

hindi ko kasi masyado kabisado ano ginagawa pag progressive school e...sabi ng isang sis natin here na
if a student hindi pa niya ma gets iyong lesson 1 hindi mag proceed sa lesson 2..so paano iyong ibang mga classmates? hintayin siya? or tuloy tuloy lang sila?

individualized naman ang mga lesson nila sis, kumbaga kanya kanya silang ng pace work. So yung makaka-gets na ng lesson, direcho sa another pace, then yung hindi pa stay lang muna tututukan ng teacher.

[KVsWahmmy]

I personally don't think one is better than the other per se. Both traditional and progressive methods have its good and not-so-good aspects.

I know the progressive teaching method is lauded by most moms now because it's more 'modern' and adapts to children of this generation, but I hope we all remember that the traditional teaching method has been around for centuries - it doesn't make it ineffective, but perhaps it does need to be 'updated'.

IMO, the better method is the one that works for your child in the long-term. It's also very, very important that parents recognize their role as an educator is not secondary to that of a child's teachers. I think same level of importance pa nga. How we reinforce their learnings at home and outside of the school and the home plays a significant role in making ANY kind of teaching method effective.

[stormy_princess]

i'm a first time mom for an incoming nursery student. Right now my daughter is undergoing summer class at a progressive school. She's okay naman at the moment but i'm still torn if i am going to enroll her in a traditional school.

This forum helps a lot.

[ceejhei]

^actually you have to test the water first before you can say that your child will fit in traditional or progressive.
Kasi observing them alone is not enough until they have mingled with other kids and how they follow instructions.

based on my experience with my daughter, i enrolled her to a traditional school. sadly, she does not really perform well.
she knows the lesson, she knows how to write the letter pero ang reklamo sa school, ayaw daw sumunod and usually laging
may ibang gustong gawin ang daughter ko, she just turned 4 last january btw. nursery1 siya. kinda stubborn din. and she will only do it
if she feels like doing it.

i know na alam niya ang lesson kasi when i am asking her she knows the answer. grabe din magpa assignment sa traditional araw araw na meron
talaga. at hindi lang isa, lahat ng subjects meron, minsan nga naisip ko para saan pa na pinapasok ko
anak ko sa school eh ako din naman ang nagtuturo pag uwi at we always ends up fighting kasi ayaw na
gawin ng anak ko assignment niya, at ako na ang gumagawa nito for her. sa progressive daw lahat ng works
sa school ginagawa, no assignments, kasi they want the kids to relax at home, play and bond with the parents/family.
And sa progressive, the teacher will teach your kid according on how they learn. so individual approach ito.

i am transferring my daughter to a progressive school this coming school year. Already paid a reservation fee last
February. hope this helps.

[mikaela325]

Nice thread very informative. Hope more mommies will share their views on this. Also torn what to choose.

[prettycha]

Personally, I want a progressive school for pre school but startig grade 1 I want a traditional school for my kid.  I find progressive schools a bit laxed though it works for pre schoolers.  Progressive schools (the real ones) work on the EQ of the child more than the IQ which is good at an early age because IQ is easier to develop.

[hann-hann]

Here's my dilemma right now:

My daughter is turning 5 years old on August. First time nya papasok ng school this coming June. In-enroll ko sya sa daycare/learning center dito sa neighborhood namin. Traditional ang approach nila. Sa Kinder 1 ko sya pinalagay, since nagsstart pa lang talaga sya. Ayoko sya makipagsabayan sa Kinder 2 kasi magbabasa na sila dun. Pero her teachers say na at her age dapat Kinder 2 na dapat sya given her age. Ayoko naman mapressure yung daughter ko na makipagsabayan sa mga marurunong at mabibilis ng sumulat kaya I stood firm sa decision ko na Kinder 1 muna sya. Maliit lang yung learning center, dalawang classrooms lang pero airconditioned. It's like a two-door apartment turned into classrooms.

Thing is, I found a school that offers mix of traditional and progressivism. Akala ko kasi dito sa city namin walang progressive school. Affordable naman yung tuition + misc fees, pwede monthly yung payment. The school is really child-friendly. And at her age, sa Kinder 1 sya pasok sa school na to. Kaya lang, it is really far from our house. 45mins-1 hour yung travel time papunta pa lang sa school. My only concern is, baka mapagod yung daughter ko sa travel pa lang. 

Mga sis, if you're in my position, what would you choose? Yung malapit pero so-so ang ambiance at traditional approach, or yung malayo but ok na ok ang ambiance and mix of traditional and progressive approach?

[KVsWahmmy]

hi sis hann-hann:

hmmm....anong aspect nung first school (traditional) yung hindi mo gusto? why do you say it's 'so-so'?
as for the 2nd school, aside from the teaching method, what makes it 'better' in your opinion?

kasi, if there's something about the 2nd school na talagang plus plus yung advantages para sa anak mo, then perhaps it's worth a try. pero if you're choosing it just because of the 'mixed' approach, and with the 'travel circumstances', I say you try out the traditional school first.

kasi sis, yung travel time na 1 hour, medyo matagal yon for a kid. pano pag traffic or pag bumaha? if you have a car, then hindi siguro ganon ka-toxic (pero malayo pa din). saka you also have to consider, anong oras gigising yung daughter mo nun, lalo na kung morning session? magkakaron din kasi ng physical pressure dun sa bata if she has to wake up early, travel an hour each going to and from school....

If I were in your position kasi, una kong titingnan yung quality ng turo - doesn't matter kung traditional or progressive, dahil like I mentioned in this thread, one is essentially not better than the other. Pareho silang ok. What takes first priority for me is yun nga, kung pano magexecute ng pagtuturo yung school. If it's well-managed, if their teachers are well-trained ganyan. 2nd, yung financial aspect siempre, dahil hindi naman kami mayaman so kailangan maging 'choosy'. Hehe. I will not settle for a school because it's 'less expensive', pero I will go for a school lang na kaya naming panindigan yung TF...hindi lang one year ang schooling eh. And third, yung distance and facilities.

Like in our case, we live in Bacoor kasi, and the more 'popular' schools are in either Alabang or Las Pinas - karamihan talaga nasa 45 mins. to 1 hour din ang distance. Yung before-school prep time, I peg it at two hours, so kailangan gising na sya 2 hours before kami umalis... and we have to do it every day pa. Short of saying - it can get toxic. Kawawa ang bata, at kawawa din ang mag-prep sa bagets. So no go talaga kami sa ganun kalayong schools. Sa facilities naman, I don't always look for 'new', basta well-maintained, safe, and maayos, that's ok.

[hann-hann]

^Thanks sis! We have decided na to try muna yung nandito sa neighborhood namin. Kung magiging okay sya, tuloy lang. Right now nagsa-summer classes sya dun, so far nage-enjoy naman sya and I just hope na magtuloy tuloy. Thanks much sis!

[zone25]

my daughter is 3 and currently enrolled as a nursery in a progressive school. i think kung pre school mas better ang progressive. specially dahil sobrang bata pa nila and ang attention span nila short pa. at this age gusto nila more on play. mahirap pa sila pagaralin na nakaupo lang ang blackboard lang ang katapat.

ive noticed with my daughter kahit sobrang sleepy pa siya. she still wants to go school kase naeenjoy nya. they sing in class. they play. story telling etc. before ang plan nmin ng husband ko was to transfer her to a traditional big school pagdating ng kinder. pero if were happy with her development baka grade 1 na namin intransfer.

ang fear ko before since ang mga big schools and gradeschool and high school are traditional. bka mahirapan siya magadjust kase nasanay sya sa progressive. pero with her school, pagdating ng prep, they are preparing the students to enter the big school.

chaka ang progressive parang di sla memorization , more on dahil laging ginagawa or tinuturo kaya nila natatandaan. kaya maganda ang foundation. my daughter went to the same school last summer. and dami nya natutunanan na letters to think 3 weeks lang un. halos lahat ng letters alam nya mdyo may ilan lang na nalilito. pero ang galing in a short span of time nakakarecognize na siya ng letters.

in my opinion lang kung 3-5 years old better ang progressive. pro if older, traditional na  lahat nman traditional na by this time.make sure lang na legit progressive. there are some kase who claims to be progressive pero more on traditional din naman ang teaching.

[wowry]

problema ng sis ko ngayon ang pamangkin ko kasi talagang slow learner siya at wala talagang hilig sa pag-aaral.honor student siya nung kinder from progressive school pero ngayong grade 1 nilipat sa traditional school parang tinatamad siya mag-aral sa dami ng assignments at quiz everyday sa school niya.palagi siya zero sa quiz tapos kapag may pinapagawa sa school hindi niya sinusunod most of the time nag-ddrawing lang siya. sa bahay kapag tinuturuan ng sis ko palagi sinasabi ayaw niya mag-aral gusto niya art classes lang. ang problema sa traditional hindi tutok sa students kaya kahit hindi pa naintindihan ng iba move on na sa next topic.kaya ngayon iniisip nila ibalik sa progressive school.

[domestic diva]

My kids went to a progressive preschool and grade school but are now at a traditional school
(both are now in high school).
 
I have no regrets with it although my kids told me that if they could bring back time,
they would've preferred to go traditional. Their reason was it was hard for them to make
friends when we transferred them because their classmates knew each other.

I believe that because they went through a progressive school, they are more confident with
regards to being a leader, thinking, reciting and performing.

As for adjusting with the methods between progressive and traditional, I feel that our
progressive school gave them grades that are too high compared to trad. Also, our
social studies was in English but in trad grade school it's in filipino (thank goodness it's in
english come high school!).

I transferred them to a traditional school because of the standards, worrying that
they may not be able to make it into universities like ADMU, DLSU or UA&P.   

[xyeZZZ]

My brother in law went to progressive school from preschool to HS. Good thing about progressive school natuto sila on their own. Ginaguide lang sila ng teacher nila sa Paces nila. Kaya pagcollege niya, it's easier for him kasi kahit di nadiscuss ng teacher nila, mas madali sa kanya intindihin as long may books or materials lang.

Yung pamangkin ko naman, she was in progressive school from preschool until she's 11. Since nagtransfer na sila ng house, medyo malayo na  yung school sa kanila. So, they decided to transfer her to the nearest school which is a traditional school. Last summer, inenroll sya sa Kumon para di sya mabigla sa learning process, after evaluation, we found out na yung learning level niya is pang grade 3 lang, Kasi nga laid back ang style ng progressive school kaya walang pressure sa bata. Pero ngayon, okay naman yung performance niya sa school, nakapag adjust naman sya kaagad.

[anslim]

I grew up and learned in a traditional school.

I have tutored kids and am now a teacher in a progressive school.

Traditional school:

Teaching method is the way we were accustomed to:  Teachers, books and lectures. Lessons run almost a week, then comes quizzes, grading system is by percentile. There are take home assignments and follow up home studies for the kids.

Progressive school:

Classroom setup is the same, but the approach to teaching differs, students are to learn at their own pace, less strict than traditional, no follow up reviews at home unlike the former. Grading system is based on a bracket system like excellent, good fair or poor.

Personally, as an educator I feel traditional is better, the student in the latter are laid back less stressed but their level of education lags the former.