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siomai

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K+12 implementation
« on: October 06, 2011, 02:48:44 pm »
mga moms and sis and dads na rin, last week ko nalaman na i-implement na pala ang K+12 sa school ng anak ko. My sons attend sa Lourdes School Manda. Lahat ng grade 6 ngayon gagraduate na. Bale wala na grade 7. The grade 7 will be part of high school na pero 6 years na ang high school.

How about you? which other schools ang mag implement ng K+12. Sabi kasi ng LSM, nag agree na daw lahat ng catholic schools na mag implement na sila.


nicegirl05

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Re: K+12 implementation
« Reply #1 on: October 06, 2011, 03:15:06 pm »
sis kala ko dati proposal pa lang to ng depEd, so to be implemented na pala. additional expense na naman to para sa ating mga parents. :(
« Last Edit: October 06, 2011, 03:16:37 pm by nicegirl05 »

cocoysmom

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Re: K+12 implementation
« Reply #2 on: October 17, 2011, 10:52:07 pm »
^so 6 yrs na ng grade school then 6 yrs ulit ng high school? oh my...:(

helencons

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Re: K+12 implementation
« Reply #3 on: October 18, 2011, 12:39:48 am »

honey_iya

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Re: K+12 implementation
« Reply #4 on: October 21, 2011, 12:53:34 pm »
Sa school din ng anak ko inemplement na 'yan! wala naman tayo magagawa :(

slickchick

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Re: K+12 implementation
« Reply #5 on: October 24, 2011, 12:48:58 pm »
my son is in Kinder right now. and the school (boy's school in QC) has informed us that they will also start implementing K12 starting next school year. Kinder kids daw will be impacted in such a way that if they will be 6 years old by June 2012, they will be given assessment exams by January to determine if they can be accelerated to Grade1. those whose who will not make it sa assessment exam (and those whose ages are less than 6 by June 2012) will have to go through Prep (Kinder 2).

my son is one of those kids whose age is eligible for the assessment exam.. his teacher also advised me that there is a big chance that he might make the cut and be eligible for acceleration.  i only have one worry. baka masyadong ma-pressure yung mga bata in this case. i want my son to be in Grade 1 next year (syempre, sayang din ang 1 year tuition) pero ayaw ko naman din na sobra syang ma-pressure to the point na hindi na nya na-enjoy ang pag-aaral nya. Grade 1 is more difficult kasi may Filipino subject na plus writing intensive pa. haayyy.. nakakaawa yung  mga bata... sana nga, pinoy kids/students will be more competitive and at-par with their foreign counterparts once ma-implement yung K12 sa pilipinas.

stormy

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Re: K+12 implementation
« Reply #6 on: October 24, 2011, 01:24:25 pm »
^my daughter is june born, she'll be 6yo by next year. Yung pagiging playful naman nya ang concern ko kasi may mga classmates sya na 6yo na ngayon kaya mas kaya nila ibang parameters na ginagraduhan sa klase gaya ng writing at listening. Sa parents mismo nakakapressure ang K+12.

marose17

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Re: K+12 implementation
« Reply #7 on: October 24, 2011, 02:26:55 pm »
^ Kung tuloy-tuloy na iyan, parang ayoko na talaga muna sa traditional school for grade school for my children.

nicegirl05

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Re: K+12 implementation
« Reply #8 on: October 24, 2011, 03:11:21 pm »
sis slickchick, correct ka kahit eligible na kid for acceleration mahirap pa rin ma-adapt agad ng kids ang new curriculum nila. like nung prep pa yung eldest ko, may classmate sila na na-accelerate din from kinder to grade 1. di kinaya nung bata ibinalik na lang sa prep kesa naman mapressure at mag suffer ang grades.

slickchick

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Re: K+12 implementation
« Reply #9 on: October 24, 2011, 03:43:49 pm »
^ my exact sentiment sis. i'm worried na baka kahit matalino yung bata, pero since mas demanding ang requirements ng elementary, baka ibalik din sya sa prep or worst, mag repeat ng grade1. mas magastos na, mas traumatic pa para sa bata. kaya on my end, ayaw ko rin ipressure yung anak ko na dapat pumasa sya sa assessment tests.

stormy

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Re: K+12 implementation
« Reply #10 on: October 24, 2011, 11:02:03 pm »
^ Kung tuloy-tuloy na iyan, parang ayoko na talaga muna sa traditional school for grade school for my children.

--kahit transfer ko sya marose dito sa malapit na school na napag-usapan na natin, grade 1 pa rin sya by next year eh. Gaya nga ng namention ko sa isang thread, d ko tuloy alam if valid ang fears ko na based Lang sa naoobserbahan ko. Ayaw ko pa sya mag grade 1 :( hirap na June sakto sa pasukan ang bday.

pears

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Re: K+12 implementation
« Reply #11 on: November 11, 2011, 10:40:04 pm »
This will make us proud or give us stress? My kid is still in Prep. so meaning now pa lang worried na sa bilis ng lessons, plus may Chinese class pa siya. ewan kung paano ma motivate sa dami ng oras sa chool at sa haba ng years to stay. sa bulsa ng parents nakakabutas talaga! Consider also pag laki nila mga 23 na sila kung maghahanap ng work. pag bumagsak pa 24or 25. mag work sila 5 to 8 years tapos magaasawa by 29 0r 30 y.o. Wow! baby nila start by age 30's. Tanda na, yun ay kung makahanap agad ng partner. kung Dr. pa at Law ang kunin...old age na magaasawa. Hay..buhay!

smoothie

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Re: K+12 implementation
« Reply #12 on: November 11, 2011, 10:48:24 pm »
^masakit siya sa bulsa sis. kala ata ng DepEd ganun kadali kumita ng pera eh.

pears

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Re: K+12 implementation
« Reply #13 on: November 11, 2011, 11:06:56 pm »
paano na mangyayari sa family kung tight budget? Mag aabroad mga parents? Mapapabayaan mga anak...tapos magkakagulo sa pera, pati sa pagpapalaki ng anak. One thing possible gulo! example mga away ng kapatid like Revilla's  :'(

inkslinger

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Re: K+12 implementation
« Reply #14 on: November 12, 2011, 09:55:26 am »
I'm not really very optimistic about this program. I don't think it will work here.

In first world countries, the program works because their countries are rich and can provide decent jobs even to those who wouldn't want to continue college studies. A high school graduate with self-learned skills or talents can get a high paying job if he meets the skill sets required for a particular job, say an illustrator for a book or comics publisher. They have tons of employers who believe that if you have the talent, your education wouldn't matter much, unless of course you are applying for a job that necessitates a person to have specific skills or knowledge that can only be attained through schooling, such as those professions in the medical field.

But here, that same high school graduate will have a hard time applying as an illustrator for a book or comics publisher. The basic requirement for applicants for full time employment with salaries above the basic pay is that they must have a college degree; if you don't have a college degree, your application won't be processed.

If you are just a high school graduate, these are the only jobs that you can apply for: househelp, maintenance work, constructions work, store attendant.

If you have at least 2-years college education, these are the only jobs that you can apply for: sales attendant at a department store, service crew at a fast food chain, commission-basis-only salesman.

So the belief of DepEd that the extra 2 years in high school, or what they call the senior years, won't matter much because our employers will still hire only those with a college degree. With hundreds of applicants vying for a single position, an employer, being a business minded that he is, will of course trim down the applicants to those with college education who are willing to get a salary for less than what they deserve.

The extra 2 senior years in highschool, the DepEd said, will focus on technical skills that will prepare students for work even if they don't go to college. These technical skills include bookkeeping, care giving or nursing, trade, agriculture, etc.

But the question is, will the employers accept applicants who are not college degree holders? Are these extra two years in high school enough for employers to consider job application from high school graduates?

Besides, the extra 2 years in highschool won't be beneficial to students who would pursue non-technical fields, say the communications arts, etc. It will just be a waste of time and money for them.

IMHO, the government should ensure first that DECENT jobs await our future HS graduates before they implement the K12 program.

pears

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Re: K+12 implementation
« Reply #15 on: November 26, 2011, 10:53:04 pm »
A matter of time. Decisions should be done? why? questions are arising for the most no. of families who are struggling to finance their children at school. Most of the family here in the Phil. are really poor. So, this implementation are starting on public schools. Do you think they will still allow their children to go to school? waste of time for them, they will rather help work to provide income. I think more will be uneducated if this will push through. :(

delisyus

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Re: K+12 implementation
« Reply #16 on: November 27, 2011, 12:08:28 pm »
inkslinger... you raised good points, but I also like to believe that a lot of things are changing already, education-wise and career-wise... so yes, most employers may prefer a college grad BUT there are already employers who don't...

this is the reason why specialized/trade schools are also cropping up left and right.... they do not exacty  offer college degrees, just certificate programs, but there is that acknowledgment now that those who want to make a career of baking, fashion and the like need not study for 4 years (what more, other subjects) in order to succeed

why else would welding be a lucrative field to go into, even for girls/ladies if it isn't an in-demand technical skill/job?

killbill

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Re: K+12 implementation
« Reply #17 on: November 29, 2011, 02:22:01 am »
sana bago nila nai impliment yan, ayusin muna nila yung mga public schools, magdagdag muna sila ng mga classrooms, books, teachers, at i-train ng maayos yung mga teachers.

nakakalungkot kasi nag aral ako sa public school 3rd and 4th year highschool, and honestly yung mga teachers dun hindi naman nagtuturo, nagbebenta lang sila ng kung ano ano sa mga estudyante nila. there was one teacher na tatawagin ka pa sa faculty room para pa-orderin ng mga sara lee at avon products. may computer room kami pero sa 2 years na nag-aral ako dun, never naming nahawakan yung mga computer nor nakapasok sa computer room. na experience ko na sa quadrangle kami naglelesson nakaupo sa sahig tapos likod mo may iba pang section na naglelesson.

yung maid namin is from Zamboanga, kwento niya, para lang makapasok sila sa  school, kailangan 3am pa lang maglakad na sila papasok sa school tapos pauuwi sobrang late na sila nakakarating sa bahay nila, until now wala pa rin silang kuryente sa bahay nila.

kawawa tayo, kawawa naman mga anak natin, ang mahal mahal ng tuition fee tapos pag naka graduate magkano lang ang sweldo?

bellAswang

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Re: K+12 implementation
« Reply #18 on: December 07, 2011, 02:02:17 am »
Agree ako sa inyo mga sis. Di pa kaya ng Pilipinas i-implement ang k12 program, asa pa sila. Only the private schools can manage this by milking us parents with higher tuition fees. Kawawa ang public schools, sorry pero nag-iisip ba ang mga taga-DepED? anlaki ng pagkukulang nila in terms of infrastructure ng mga public schools especially in the province. There aren't enough teachers, not enough chairs, not enough chalk. The average number of students per class is 60 to 100 at shifting pa yon dahil kulang classrooms tapos dagdag pa sila ng 2 years? Talagang dadami lalo ang mga out-of-school youths, the parents will force them mismo to drop out para maghanap buhay. They have to fix the current problems muna bago nila tuluyang sirain ang future ng mga bata sa atin.  Kids shouldn't be subjected to dangerous conditions and extremely long walks just to get to school.

siomai

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Re: K+12 implementation
« Reply #19 on: December 15, 2011, 12:52:06 pm »
my worry is actually increasing the divide between public school and private school which is already wide at this point. ngayon kasi mag iimplement na mga private schools and am not sure when ang public school follow suit. mas magiging well equipped ang private school grads dahil mas marami sila iginugugol pang years in school tapos baka mas lalo magdepreciate ang quality sa public school.

hopefully though this K+12 implementation will create more teaching jobs although most likely baka magmove pa yung mga public school teachers to private kasi mangangailangan ang private schools ng more teachers.

sana maimprove ang salary ng mga public school teachers para mas matino sila magturo and less na kaiisip paano kumita by selling kung ano ano merchandise sa students.

overall i would like to be optimistic sa K+12 implementation na ito.
About tuition fee increase.. haayz.. every year increase talaga. our spending power is diminishing kasi ang tuition mga average of 10% increase, inflation mga 5-6% increase tapos ang salary.. no increase naman.. ayayay..

 

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