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mafiapenguins

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Being Moderated
« on: May 31, 2011, 11:14:51 am »
may question lang ako... at baka mapagalitan na naman ako ng mga mods kung sa "being watched" thread ko to ipopost, so I'm making another thread...

I'm being moderated, kesyo daw sa textspeak (an example of which is a-n-u considered textspeak while when you say [textspeak!]-ano, it should be a-n-u), "soliciting/advertising" when i posted links on my blog (kasi they're too long to post here and too redundant na to type them again) and sharing some sale announcements we have (we have a small business kasi) na related naman sa posts. these are just to answer some, and are not posted blatantly.

ang masakit pa nito, we dont get to explain our side, tapos hindi naman inexplain sa PM kung bakit and how to avoid it. any thoughts on this mga sis?
« Last Edit: June 08, 2011, 09:42:44 pm by mafiapenguins »

tinapay

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Re: Being Moderated
« Reply #1 on: September 13, 2011, 04:25:01 pm »
eto rin sana ang irereklamo ko.  nag post ako sa "latest bag purchase" ng link ng blog ko about my latest bag purchase nga.  parehas na parehas ang topic.  tapos PM ako ng GT soliciting/advertising daw yun.  di ko naman binebenta blog ko.  gusto ko lang ipakita sa kapwa GTers yung bag na binili ko.  mali ba yun?  nasa correct topic naman ako.  ang mali ko lang, both thread about bags ko sya nai-post.  late ko na kasi nahanap na meron palang "latest bag purchase" thread.  pati tuloy sa thread about bags na post ko sya.  but still, sana dun na lang sa isang thread about bags dinelete yung post ko and not both.  at lalong di ko matanggap na moderated ako.  paki-double check nga po kung gano na ako katagal dito sa GT.  baka nakailang palit na ng mods ang naabutan ko rito.  bihirang bihira akong mag violate ng any rules.

true, wala man lamang tayong way para i-explain side natin.  disabled ang reply pag nag pm ang GT mods.  i wonder kung nagbabasa sila rito sa comments and suggestions topic.  and hello, kelan pa naging text speak ang ano-ano with "u" sa first word? yun ang tamang spelling.  but i let that pass, kasi baka naka-formula yung text speak nila.

mafiapenguins

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Re: Being Moderated
« Reply #2 on: September 14, 2011, 09:00:32 am »
i feel for you sis. nakakaloka yan. sana na lang, they bother to read what's the context of the post, perhaps even verify where the links go to. para kasing may keywords lang silang binabantayan, then they see that, yun na yun.


betty

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Re: Being Moderated
« Reply #3 on: September 14, 2011, 10:50:00 am »
baka sila mismo dinila alam yung rules

babyjapnurse01

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Re: Being Moderated
« Reply #4 on: September 14, 2011, 03:28:59 pm »
Medyo off to say they dont know the rules, IMHO, may konting lapse lang sa implementation, medyo walang consistency, I agree though dun sa point na sana ireview muna yung content nung message, kung may violation ba talaga or wala.

Napansin ko kasi ngayon, may mga mahilig mag-raise ng discussions, tapos pag humaba, irereport sa moderator ang kausap, nawawala yung sense ng pakikipag-discuss sa boards, meron namang iba, may nag didiskusyon lang about 2 opposing points, feeling nila nagaaway na, tapos RTM. Meron nga dyan nagaalternick pa para lang manggatong sa mga away eh which is pretty obvious kasi low post count tapos pasulpot sulpot lang sa maiinit na threads.

I mean, we're supposed to make healthy discussions here para lahat tayo natututo from each other, it doesnt mean na por que opposing ang views at nagdidiskusyon e nagaaway na. Meron namang iba, sasabihan ka pang nagmamarunong or nakikipag-paligsahan just because you are trying to correct one false info posted in a thread where members are supposed to share tips, techniques etc. Ano ba dapat? pabayaan lang? para di masabihan na nagmamarunong? Kadalasan kasi people who push false infos yun pa ang talagang ayaw mag backdown kahit na naprovidan na ng lahat ng rationale on why the shared info is considered wrong.

Sa celebrity threads naman, parang naging thread na exclusive for fans, oras na may masabi ka na negative kahit sobrang babaw, mamayang konti kukuyugin ka na.

Ayun sorry sa pag vent, Im just stating my observations :D

We need moderators that are objective, unbiased and masipag mag-review ng posts before they throw warnings on members, minsan nga naiisip ko parang mas okay kung hindi ordinary members ang gawing MOderators para maiwasan ang tropa mentality, lakas maka-affect nun sa pagmomoderate eh. Pero merong ibang members na gusto ko maging moderators because I admire how neutral and objective they are. I also hope Mamasqueak wont leave her post as a mod. Sana mga kagaya nya yung ibang mods na ma-hire. hehe! :)

commish

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Re: Being Moderated
« Reply #5 on: September 14, 2011, 04:46:55 pm »

Napansin ko kasi ngayon, may mga mahilig mag-raise ng discussions, tapos pag humaba, irereport sa moderator ang kausap, nawawala yung sense ng pakikipag-discuss sa boards, meron namang iba, may nag didiskusyon lang about 2 opposing points, feeling nila nagaaway na, tapos RTM. Meron nga dyan nagaalternick pa para lang manggatong sa mga away eh which is pretty obvious kasi low post count tapos pasulpot sulpot lang sa maiinit na threads.


one word: scared.

this is one of the loophole that can be solutioned if mods are properly introduced to members. not merely spies or shadows lurking around each cranny of the forum waiting for an instance to backstab you.

just my opinion.

baliwsayo

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Re: Being Moderated
« Reply #6 on: September 14, 2011, 05:46:20 pm »
Same sentiment as babyjap.  8)

And na-warn ako dati kasi dapat daw caret lang ginamit ko imbes na ni-quote ko yun post eh naman sa kabilang page pa yun post nung nireplyan ko eh as in malayo na sa current post.. ewan ko ba naman.  ;D

Tapos yun textspeak. Hirap sobra... minsan gt nickname yun tinype mo pero textspeak ang nalabas pati yung kasi hindi mo mashorten. Eh sa filipino language pwede naman talaga iksian yun mga words na yun eh. Pang-english friendly lang yata dito.  :D

babyjapnurse01

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Re: Being Moderated
« Reply #7 on: September 14, 2011, 05:50:00 pm »
^ I got a warning for quoting too, board clutter daw. So ang ginagawa ko nalang ngayon, tinatype ko yung name nalang, caret kapag directly above mine, pero di ako nagmumultiple caret kasi minsan meron ako nakitang limang caret ang ginamit, kaloka, ayoko hiluhin ang ibang readers para lang mabalikan sino yung sinasagot ko, might as well mention the name nalang. :)

betty

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Re: Being Moderated
« Reply #8 on: September 14, 2011, 08:19:09 pm »
babyjap, if they knew what are the rules and regulation talaga di magkakaroon ng wrong accusations and poor implementation. at sana di emotion ang ginagamit sa pag moderate


commish, tama nga sabi mo parang di lantad sino ang mga mods except ke mamasqueak na i like also.

if i remember it right, someone commented that GT is not their priority kaya ganito.

streetsmartgirl

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Re: Being Moderated
« Reply #9 on: September 14, 2011, 08:28:30 pm »
can relate..

bawal pala ang reply na "joining" or "subscribing". bakit kaya bawal yun?  for me it's just a way of saying that you're interested in the topic so you want to read the replies of other GTs when the thread is updated. dapat ba full sentence ang reply? parang same lang naman kasi ang sense kung sasabihin mo pa in a complete sentence.

betty

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Re: Being Moderated
« Reply #10 on: September 14, 2011, 08:31:51 pm »
sis kaya may notify button for that.. kase clutter lang sa thread if puro subscribing ang mababasa mo

streetsmartgirl

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Re: Being Moderated
« Reply #11 on: September 14, 2011, 08:33:28 pm »
^ok thanks for that sis!

betty

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Re: Being Moderated
« Reply #12 on: September 14, 2011, 08:36:07 pm »
speaking of that subscribing thing, sabi bawal pero dami pa din nagsusulat at di naman natatanggal ng mga mods

streetsmartgirl

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Re: Being Moderated
« Reply #13 on: September 14, 2011, 08:40:37 pm »
^actually totoo yan sis. kasi since i didn't know before na bawal pala "subsribing/joining", i think i've posted mga 5 na puro ganyan haha. at dun sa huli lang ako nasaway.

babyjapnurse01

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Re: Being Moderated
« Reply #14 on: September 14, 2011, 09:51:32 pm »
betty :

Sa sobrang iksi ng set of rules ng forum na to, Im sure the mods are very familiar with them, ang lapse talaga nasa implementation which can actually depend sa nagiimplement kung pano sya magrerespond sa mga RTM mails that they receive.

Regarding attendance posts, RTM lang ng RTM, wala naman limit yung RTM that we can file, as long as may nakikita kayo, RTM lang. Since sobrang tedious if we would just leave it up to the moderators na mag browse each and every thread na meron dito sa forum.

Unless magkaron ng organized na sistema in moderating the boards (like if magkaron ng specific moderator for each board) then thats the time na hindi lang dedepende sa RTMs ang pagiging maayos ng threads dito. Kulang din kasi sa moderators and aside from that, may member/moderators din ngayon na hindi natin alam kung sino, si mamasqueak lang talaga ang recognized nating lahat. :)



betty

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Re: Being Moderated
« Reply #15 on: September 15, 2011, 06:33:25 am »
dati kase nakaindicate sa bawat board kung sino ang nagmomoderate.

so it only goes to show na emotion nga ang pag implement ng mga rules.. kase kung hinde malamang walang false accusations and sanctions

mafiapenguins

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Re: Being Moderated
« Reply #16 on: September 15, 2011, 10:31:40 am »
it is amazing that this thread has caught some of your attention. when i started this thread, naisip ko kasi na walang thread to say my sentiments nung na moderate ako. i was thinking na may booboo lang talaga ako, or there are some rules i might have missed, since napaka vague nung mga rules na nasa guidelines.

it's nice to know na hindi lang pala ako ang nagkaron ng ganitong problem. at least we get to talk about it, and maybe enlighten other re rules na hindi napapansin, such as the joining/subscribing.

ang hindi ko talaga magets, yung sa marketplace and advertising - like kelan nagiging soliticitation ang sharing ng info re sale or something for sale or sagot sa tanong if ever one is a provider (sa wedding thread kasi, may mga suppliers din like me, kaya when some brides ask about something, alangan naman hindi namin sagutin, kahit na alam namin yung sagot...)

tinapay

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Re: Being Moderated
« Reply #17 on: September 15, 2011, 10:38:59 am »
^maganda kasi ang GT dati.  panahon nina astrodiva.  bawat thread may moderator at talagang nakabantay.  tipong makikita mo sumasali rin sila sa discussion.  e ngayon parang sa RTM lang umaasa mga moderator tapos di iniintindi kung bakit may ganung report, basta na lang mag warn sa isang tao.

sobrang dami pa kayang violations dito sa buong forum.  minsan nga i help pa in de-cluttering topics kasi similar lang sa iba.  this obviously means na di ganun ka-active at dedicated ang moderators.  well, kung konti lang sila, mahirap talaga.  lalo na kung hindi naman ito ang priority nila.

i checked my profile.  my violations started dec. 2010.  2003 pa ko registered dito.  at ngayon moderated na.  di ko matanggap ang violations ko but i let it pass.  habang tumatanda nagiging pasaway, ganun ba yun? haha!  medyo natatamad na tuloy akong mag-post dito.

babyjapnurse01

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Re: Being Moderated
« Reply #18 on: September 15, 2011, 11:13:05 am »
Yung sa advertising, you cant advertise or point other members sa online store mo or sa service mo if ever you are the provider/supplier, advertising na kasi naman talaga yun. Magkakaron kasi ng bias eh, kagaya before, somebody started a thread about Korean Cosmetic lenses, mega pa-bida sya and all praises sa cosmetic lenses especially one specific brand na bordering pagssalestalk na kasi may mga linya na sya na "bagay sayo yun" -- as if kita nya kausap nya, so medyo kaduda-duda, when i checked her posts, she has an ad sa Beauty Bazaar selling Geo lenses. Wenks.

Pag sa threads kasi, madaming sasagot sa queries especially if active yung thread, so as much as possible, to be fair sa iba, wag nalang mag-mention na ikaw mismo ang nagbebenta or nagpprovide ng ganung klaseng service, kasi wala ka talagang laban once mabigyan ka ng warning about advertising sa threads coz its like you are marketing narin your service sa discussion boards, para saan pa yung marketplace natin, diba? Pwede naman dun natin ipost instead na sa discussion boards natin babanggitin.

Moderated din ako, dumating pa nga sa point na muted din ako, and some of the warnings I got are questionable too, pero its not fair naman for us to say na hindi lang dedicated ang mga moderators kaya gumulo ang forum.

We got used to the forum being super clean before during Astrodiva days, sige okay na yun but we have to move forward eh, kasi hindi na sila may hawak ng forum na to.

Just so everyone knows, naka-ilang palit po tayo ng Admin kaya hindi po mabilis at magiging madali ang transition period kasi sila mismo, they are trying to familiarize themselves on how the forum works, regarding the moderators, kahit gano pa ka-dedicated ang moderators kung kulang naman sila, edi ganun rin, magiging insufficient parin para ma-address lahat ng concerns natin. Isama mo pa yung mga anonymous na moderators, hindi mo alam kung kanino pwede mag-PM to ask about violations and stuff. Dun ako medyo nalalabuan. Hindi rin tuloy natin alam kung yung mga anonymous na yan e yung mga may tendency maging bias at kaya mamersonal (sorry but I have to be really honest on this one)

If theres one thing na magiging magandang start dito, sana ibalik yung rules dati nila Astrodiva, mas specific kasi yun and mas mahirap malusutan for offenders na tipong once you violate anything, wala ka talagang lusot, wala ka narin itatanong kasi lahat andun na. Thats if may means pa to retrieve those set of rules. Kasi tested na thru time yun eh, namomodify nalang habang tumatagal and pag nakikitaan ng butas. Im sure yun pa lang magiging magandang start na, para guided din even the moderators about whats foul from whats not. Sana rin ireveal who the moderators are, feeling ko mas okay yung ganun na kilala ng members ang moderators.

Wag natin masyado pag-initan the mods, they are doing their "jobs" ng walang compensation whatsoever, kaya ang kailangan talaga natin are dedicated ones na magiging active even without compensation. To be honest, as how I see it, kulang na kulang talaga sila, kung icocompare sa dami ng mga pasaway (kasali ata ako don. rawr)  medyo mabigat din talaga responsibility sa mods, so sana madagdagan kahit pano yung moderators. So nasa FN Admin ang responsibility on how she will designate yung tasks ng moderators para mas may balance and mas easier for them to review the whole forum.

One more thing na sana magawan ng paraan agad, newbie restrictions -- sa totoo lang, sila naman most of the time ang mahilig magpost ng mga threads na may existing na pala, nagiging redundant tuloy, ang resulta, yung mga nakasagot na sa original thread, tatamarin magreply. Sa marketplace, sila rin kadalasan ang pasaway, one item per ad, na-spam na ang marketplace. Pwede namang one ad for everything eh. Minsan makikita mo rin magssign up lang para magbenta sa Marketplace. Unlike before na kailangan maka-gain ka ng 50 (sensible dapat) na posts before you can have access to some functions of the forum.

Minsan even yung pagmemerge ng threads na hindi naman ata dapat imerge, nagugulo tuloy, like latest blog posts thread, minerge sa support group for bloggers  which deals about technicalities, so kung ikaw may problema sa blogger account mo, parang ang hirap magbackread sa isang thread na halos puro bloglinks ang makikita mo, magkaiba kasi ng purpose eh, yung isa, to keep everyone updated with what you wrote, yung isa, pang-tulong sa mga nagkakaron ng issues with their account.

ayun, humahaba na suggestions ko, tama na muna. :D
« Last Edit: September 15, 2011, 11:44:48 am by babyjapnurse01 »

betty

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Re: Being Moderated
« Reply #19 on: September 15, 2011, 11:24:47 am »
ako din di ko matanggap

 

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