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kirsi

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is there a percentage na dapat manahin ng illegitimate child
« on: April 08, 2011, 11:31:13 am »
gusto ko lang malaman ang law tungkol sa illegitimate saka legitimate child.
Yung Father in law ko may anak sa labas, may mga properties siyang nabili naka pangalan sa kanya saka kay mistress may habol ba ang original na anak saka asawa. My Father in law is 61 y/o and her mistress is 30 y/o nag pa IVF (in Vitro Fertilization) nagka anak silang  twin boy 3 y/o ngayon ang daming biniling properties 4 in makati and 3 in province, kaya lang namin nalaman yung tungkol dun nakita namin sa mall si mistress malaki na yung tiyan. like i said 3 y/o na yung bata. yung tungkol naman sa properties dad niya mismo nag sabi sa asawa ko pero yung iba nilihim niya kasi alam niya na magagalit yung asawa ko dahil sobrang dami na.
di ko naman masasabi na lugi yung asawa ko saka mga kapatid regarding sa mana pero pinapantay ng dad niya yung properties nung anak niya sa labas o lagpas na kasi nga bata pa.
saka ang masakit mag aasawa pa si mistress bata pa kasi bukod pa dun kasal siya sa ibang lalaki.
di alam ng mother in law ko saka mga kapatid ng asawa ko regarding kay mistress and the child. kaming mag asawa lang saka mga driver etc. (cook, maid, kapitbahay hehe) di kasi na labas si Mother In Law kaya walang alam saka takot mag salita yung mga tao kasi ibang klase pag nagalit si Father in law.
By the way asawa ko at mga kapatid na niya ang nagpapa takbo ng business yung Father in law ko walang ginagawa kaya lang swelduhan lang silang magkakapatid ayaw sila bigyan ni Fathe in law ng sarili kasi alam niya susuwayin na siya ng mga anak niya.    any advise mga sis
« Last Edit: April 08, 2011, 11:33:28 am by kirsi »

CityHunter

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Re: is there a percentage na dapat manahin ng illegitimate child
« Reply #1 on: April 08, 2011, 11:53:20 am »
Yup, there is a percentage that illegitimate child(ren) can get from their parents.  Hindi nga lang ako lawyer though nor have researched much on this.  Let's wait for more replies as someone who is better informed on this subject might edify us soon.

msTiKtac

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Re: is there a percentage na dapat manahin ng illegitimate child
« Reply #2 on: April 08, 2011, 05:02:15 pm »

i'm not a lawyer pero i heard it's 1/2 of the share of the legitimate child.  wait natin yong iba who can give more detailed explanation niyan.

landrexi

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Re: is there a percentage na dapat manahin ng illegitimate child
« Reply #3 on: April 10, 2011, 01:14:34 pm »
At least 1/2 of the share of  a legitimate child.  If the  dad   decides to give  the illegitimate  child more than that, puwede naman.

aquacharly

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Re: is there a percentage na dapat manahin ng illegitimate child
« Reply #4 on: April 10, 2011, 01:42:31 pm »
The father cannot just give more than half the share of a legitimate child to an illegitimate child. 
The only way to give more than that is through a probated will - which in the Phils requires a tedious process or is seldom done.   

I know a way how an illegitimate person can get more than half of the share of the legitimate children -- and keep it beyond  reach or retrieval of the legit family members -- but I am not gonna share it here.  Malay ko may kabitch nagbabasa nito eh hello -- am a legal wife and hence, I will not help such advance their interests.   Peace na lang! hehe

msTiKtac

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Re: is there a percentage na dapat manahin ng illegitimate child
« Reply #5 on: April 10, 2011, 05:36:24 pm »
^ hehe.  true sis.  marami nyan nagbabasa dito.  ;D

ang swerte talaga mga kabit na yan, instantly may mana na ang mga anak nila once acknowledged by the married man na anak nga nila yon. 

a_y_e_n

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Re: is there a percentage na dapat manahin ng illegitimate child
« Reply #6 on: April 10, 2011, 10:39:32 pm »
ganito din yung case ng officemate ko, she's the legal wife pero ngakaron ng anak sa labas yung husband nya. correct me if im wrong... kung 3 years old na yung bata, considered as illegitimate pa ba yun? ??? except sa mga pinanganak ng matagal na, sa pagkakaalam ko because of a certain law, di ba wala na illegimate child ngayon, only "illegitimate wife" or kabitch. ??? 

eto kase sabi ng friend ko na di married eh. 2 of her children were illegitimate kahit acknowledged pa ng ka-live-in nya, then yung youngest nya, mga 7 years old ata, sabi nya legitimate daw because of a certain law.

if that is the case, same lang yung rights ng "illegitimate child" and legitimate child.

marose17

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Re: is there a percentage na dapat manahin ng illegitimate child
« Reply #7 on: April 10, 2011, 11:08:23 pm »
Strictly speaking, the legitime of an illegitimate child is 1/2 of the legitime of the legitimate child.  May formula pa if there is more than one legitimate child.  Legitime is the portion of the estate of the deceased that is due to an heir, whether or not there is a will. 

Now, there is no way an illegitimate child may become legitimate through the passage of time.  Either the mother or father of the illegitimate child get married because there is no more legal impediment, or the father legally adopted his own illegitimate child.

Baka ang sinasabi ninyo ay ang Revilla law wherein an illegitimate child may carry the surname of the father.  Sa Family Code kasi,illegitimate children should carry their mother's name.

moonie

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Re: is there a percentage na dapat manahin ng illegitimate child
« Reply #8 on: April 11, 2011, 01:32:39 am »
May habol ang MIL at mga anak sa mga ari-arian na nakapangalan sa F IL at kabit niya kung pera ng F IL ang ginastos sa pagbili ng mga ito. 

Malamang kasama pa rin ang mga properties na ito sa community or conjugal properties ng mag-asawang MIL at F IL (malamang walang marriage settlement yung mag-asawa nung kinasal sila.)  The MIL is entitled to half of the conjugal/community property.  Ang kalahating share nung F IL ay magiging bahagi ng hereditary estate niya kung saan kukunin ang mana ng mga heirs (legitimate children, wife, illegitimate children.)

So you see mas malaki ang karapatan at makukuha ng MIL sa mga properties.

I suggest your husband and his mom and siblings consult a lawyer on how to protect their rights to those properties.

 

kirsi

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Re: is there a percentage na dapat manahin ng illegitimate child
« Reply #9 on: April 11, 2011, 09:37:24 am »
thank you sa reply.

kalimutan ko idagdag si Father in Law 2 yung attorney yung mga legal niyang document sa kapatid niya pinapaayos. pag sa secret like kabit na document sa ibang lawyer niya pinapaayos. kaya tingin ko siguradong pinag isipan nila yun na di mahahabol pero sana may pag asa mahabol yung iba,  tapos pagkakalam ko nakapangalan na rin yung title ng deed sa mga bata.  ang masama pa magkakatabi yung ibang lupa nilang mamanahin.
last thing si father in law may sakit cirosis (liver cancer) kaya ngayon hinahabol niya talaga na ma stable yung anak niya sa labas, right now nasa china siya para mag pa stem cell transfer kasi ayaw niya mag pa transplant hindi daw niya kakayanin yung operation.  kaya talagang todo bili niya ng properties alam niya di na siya magtatagal. Pag nasa bahay siya mainit ulo niya wala daw pera (e papano inubos na niya kakabili ng lupa) dalawang house ni mistress may swimming pool......Bulacan and batangas.
aquacharly message mo naman sa akin yung alam mo... thank you

a_y_e_n

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Re: is there a percentage na dapat manahin ng illegitimate child
« Reply #10 on: April 11, 2011, 02:36:17 pm »
Baka ang sinasabi ninyo ay ang Revilla law wherein an illegitimate child may carry the surname of the father.  Sa Family Code kasi,illegitimate children should carry their mother's name.

ay eto pala yun. pangalan lang pala ng tatay. thanks for the clarification! kala ko legitimate na pag pangalan ng tatay yung gamit ng anak ng mistress :)

aquacharly

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Re: is there a percentage na dapat manahin ng illegitimate child
« Reply #11 on: April 11, 2011, 04:36:48 pm »
KIRSI, ang alam ko - which I do not want to share - will benefit illegitimate kids.  Yan, hindi ko talaga share, even via a PM -- sorry but why are you asking if you are on the side of the legitimate family?

Now, whatever the kabit gets... is not foolproof out of the reach of the wife and legit kids.
As touched on by others here... it falls into the gray area of conjugal property.
Pero may solution nga ryan, which hindi ko share talaga.

Ganito na lang ha.. cuentohan kita ng ginawa ng tita ko
When my tito died and nakatira pa some days my tito in the house he bought for his kabit and their bastards ha...
My tita immediately had her lawyer put things in motion..
     Nakuha ang cars agad, napa tatakan ang mga titles to properties in the name of the kabit and or her husband na properties eh in the possession or control of the kabit.

She had nothing to lose by making gulo the kabit ha... nagka leverage pa nga sya.
her mindset was:  walang makikinabang kung hindi makikinabang mga anak ko.
Well, the kabit was put in a position where she has to negotiate and make peace.
Wala eh,  things will just get tied up for years in court... pareho na mamatay si kabit and legal wife, wala pa rin resolution.
So, si kabit surrendered it all in exchange for the bird-in-hand settlement for her bastards' 1/2 of legit kid claim. (Actually, the bastards got less... kasi ang extrajudical settlement eh kelangan pirmahan ng all heirs.. eh of course, hindi naman pinalagay lahat doon lahat ng properties.  Pero once signed, yung kabit signs as mother for the illegitimate minor heirs - so parang Quit Claim in effect, wala nang habol later on si kabitch)

If you ask me if what my tita did was Christian of her ... ayaw ko na mag commentaryo.  Who am I to judge, when I do not know how much she and her kids suffered and were deprived.  But it sure was a practical and pre-emptive move on her part.

younis

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Re: is there a percentage na dapat manahin ng illegitimate child
« Reply #12 on: April 11, 2011, 05:56:52 pm »
informative ito.. basahin nyo po... regarding Compulsory Heirs

http://panyero.net/wills-succession-legitime-compulsory-heirs-intestate-succession/

kasama sa compulsory heirs ang Illegitimate children.
« Last Edit: April 12, 2011, 09:37:02 am by younis »

m_lim

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Re: is there a percentage na dapat manahin ng illegitimate child
« Reply #13 on: April 11, 2011, 07:48:46 pm »
so may habol ang original wife kahit na pinangalan ng tatay sa kabit yung property?

moonie

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Re: is there a percentage na dapat manahin ng illegitimate child
« Reply #14 on: April 11, 2011, 09:12:54 pm »
^Absolutely.  Kahit nakapangalan sa kabit or sa anak.  But have your own lawyers who specialize on succession act on it.  Kasi may abogado na rin pala ang kabila para itago yung mga ari-arian.  Better run after those properties now.
« Last Edit: April 11, 2011, 09:16:38 pm by moonie »

shopaholic-no-more

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Re: is there a percentage na dapat manahin ng illegitimate child
« Reply #15 on: April 17, 2011, 12:30:58 am »
question, what if ang illegitimate ay ang panganay na anak ng mother? kungbaga, pinakasalan ang nanay kahit alam ng tatay na hinde kanya ang panganay? tpos the child uses the last name of the father, pero sa birth certificate ng anak, illegitimate cya at walang name ng father... born nung 1950's kasi, and both parents are dead now. issue ang hatian ng properties ng magkakapatid.

thebratinella

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Re: is there a percentage na dapat manahin ng illegitimate child
« Reply #16 on: April 17, 2011, 04:00:03 am »
^i think that's the reason why kiko pangilinan adopted kc. naalala ko parang may interview si sharon about it na she wants to make sure kc would get equal share of the inheritance someday. correct me if i'm wrong ha. not sure lang if may iba pang solution to that situation pagdating sa inheritance.

aquacharly

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Re: is there a percentage na dapat manahin ng illegitimate child
« Reply #17 on: April 17, 2011, 04:45:12 am »
^ hehe.  true sis.  marami nyan nagbabasa dito.  ;D

ang swerte talaga mga kabit na yan, instantly may mana na ang mga anak nila once acknowledged by the married man na anak nga nila yon.

I wouldnt be sure about that - na suerte sila.  At the end  of the day, bottom- line - they have to listen to that little nagging voice in their head.   

Miss Charcoal

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Re: is there a percentage na dapat manahin ng illegitimate child
« Reply #18 on: November 11, 2012, 09:19:27 pm »
diba 50-50 ang illegitimate at legitimate?

pano kung di naman pinakilala ang illegitimate at di rin alam ng illegitimate side na dead na ang other parent nila? posible ba makuha ng legitimate child yung 100%?

 

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