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germaine

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Re: Vice Ganda
« Reply #380 on: May 29, 2013, 04:04:27 pm »
maybe GMA news people will not react pero yung taong ginamit niya, sasakyan lang ang "joke" niya. Halimbawa lang, si Kat De Castro or Sharon Cuneta ginamit niya sa overweight and rape joke na yan, matutuwa kaya ang mga yun? O kahit yung best friend niyang si Kris na papasa din namang overweight, matutuwa kaya?

chiqmom

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Re: Vice Ganda
« Reply #381 on: May 29, 2013, 04:11:13 pm »
i don't think so... expected naman yun.. kahit naman siguro sinong offended wouldn't want to talk to that person muna.. kahit ako ganun din..
am sure since interesado tayo sa issue.. interesado rin tayo malaman kung anong ginawa ni VG para dito..

were you able to watch him kanina sa Showtime? you should catch the video. what i meant here is if he's going to apologize, just do so. wala masyado ek ek.

pandalicious

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Re: Vice Ganda
« Reply #382 on: May 29, 2013, 04:19:34 pm »
Nakakatawa lang, nag-public apology na nga yung tao pero may puna pa din yung iba. I bet kung nag "sorry miss jessica." lang siya may magsasabi pa din ng "ganun lang? Yun lang ang apology niya?"
If one is a fan, matatanggap na yung public apology, but if one is a hater/don't like vice at all, baka kahit umiyak nG pako si vice eh hindi pa din kuntento.

Sana lang may matutunan si vice sa controversy na 'to, minsan sobrang off na talaga jokes niya, buti nga di napipikon si karylle sa kanya pag tinitira niya.

abbina

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Re: Vice Ganda
« Reply #383 on: May 29, 2013, 04:20:07 pm »
natural lang ipagtanggol sya ng fans nya, fans nya yun e. parang ibang artista lang yan kahit mali na ginawa para sa iba, syempre para sa fans tama pa din idolo nila.

we can really expect people na ipagtanggol sya. kasi kung lahat may karapatan magbigay ng opinyon syempre iba iba yan. Meron for them Walang masama sa ginawa ni Vice meron naman for them hindi ok ginawa nya.

I agree!!!  :)

pinkpotato

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Re: Vice Ganda
« Reply #384 on: May 29, 2013, 04:20:42 pm »
US Presidents are no pushovers. Most (haha) of them have high intellects, and all of them are highly regarded all over the world. Of course, there's also that moniker "most powerful man" in the world. Yet, when they are made fun of by their own comedians, they don't lose their cool, even though they have all the power to get mad. Why don't they? Because they know they're all jokes, and they'd just look smaller for even reacting. I know a lot of you won't agree with me on this one, that's because we're all Filipinos, but the reactions to Vice Ganda's shots on JSoho are again so overboard. I understand, Filipino values ek ek. But sheesh, anong petsa na? Get with the program, get your mentalities out of your caves. Words are wind, anyway.

agree!

someone posted this, http://iamchilimedley.blogspot.jp/2013/05/hold-your-horses.html?spref=tw&m=1

very well written. if I may qoute, connected to the above post,
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"The culprit: COLLECTIVE INSECURITY. Filipinos are afflicted with such inferiority complex that we are always out to prove something, to prove ourselves right and better than most everyone else. It is a mistaken sense of honor and pride. It is wanting to always be right in front of many. Even at the expense of our own brothers and sisters. As a result, the first chance that we get, we pounce on the often unwitting victim. We set our eyes on a target – a celebrity, a politician, a private individual who shot to fame, or infamy, for some reason – and we beat them to a pulp until there is nothing left of them. And we feel vindicated. "

junepets

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Re: Vice Ganda
« Reply #385 on: May 29, 2013, 04:23:05 pm »
so where is the concern here?

a joke for some may not be for others (obvious naman kasi wala ganitong topic ngayon kung magkakasundo lahat).
but just because GMA resource yun tinira... they will react.. why not be fair? whether it's JS, KA, SC or kung sino man...
di lang basta makareact.. sensationalized pa.. for what?

well, i hope VG learned his lesson... let's see what happens after the apology..

were you able to watch him kanina sa Showtime? you should catch the video. what i meant here is if he's going to apologize, just do so. wala masyado ek ek.

yes i did watch the video..
(well just a slice of it.. uh-oh... di ko pala napanood yun buong segment..) ;)
just the one when he said he called JS to say sorry... pagtawag sa kanya ng management for the meeting... apology to the public.. etc.. did i miss something?


rannastillero

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Re: Vice Ganda
« Reply #386 on: May 29, 2013, 04:27:37 pm »
Love ko si vice maganda at magaling talaga syang magpatawa.
kumbaga full force ang sense of humor nya at dumadaloy sa dugo nya ang pagiging funny comedienne nya. minsan nga lang medyo foul para sa atin or sa iba sa atin na hindi sanay sa makabagong concept. habang nagbabago kasi yung panahon nababago rin yung mga ugali at kinagigiliwan ng mga tao. respetohan lang din dapat. peace tayu jan mga sis hehe.  ;D

abbina

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Re: Vice Ganda
« Reply #387 on: May 29, 2013, 04:28:24 pm »
US Presidents are no pushovers. Most (haha) of them have high intellects, and all of them are highly regarded all over the world. Of course, there's also that moniker "most powerful man" in the world. Yet, when they are made fun of by their own comedians, they don't lose their cool, even though they have all the power to get mad. Why don't they? Because they know they're all jokes, and they'd just look smaller for even reacting. I know a lot of you won't agree with me on this one, that's because we're all Filipinos, but the reactions to Vice Ganda's shots on JSoho are again so overboard. I understand, Filipino values ek ek. But sheesh, anong petsa na? Get with the program, get your mentalities out of your caves. Words are wind, anyway.

I couldn't agree more, sis.

Vice has done his part and hopefully has learned a lesson sa nangyari.


Purple_Power

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Re: Vice Ganda
« Reply #388 on: May 29, 2013, 04:30:56 pm »
Nakita ko na rin yung sa Bubble Gang at meron nga ring jokes na ganun. At this point wala akong papanigan pero sana maging lesson na ito sa parehong network. Si Jessica Soho na nagsabi na hindi magandang subject ang rape sa biruan. I agree that hoping this will be a lesson for Vice Ganda na huwag naman siya mag cross ng line sa jokes niya lalo na may mga nasasaktan rin. Mabigat ang pinagdaanan niya before siya makatungtong sa showbiz kaya dapat naiintindihan niya yung nararamdaman ng ibang tao kapag hindi na maganda ang jokes niya. Nevertheless it is better not to mention names na lang kasi hindi naman kailangan. Aaminin ko na bilib ako sa kanya dahil effortless ang jokes niya pero hindi sa ganyang punto. Maraming kaso ng rape na hindi maresolba dito sa Pinas meron pa nga namamatayan pa ng mahal sa buhay dahil rito tapos hindi pa nakuha ang hustisya. Samahan mo pa na nasakripisyo ang dignidad nila bilang tao at habang buhay nilang dadalhin yun dahil sa krimen na ito.

kutingpie

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Re: Vice Ganda
« Reply #389 on: May 29, 2013, 04:31:58 pm »
hmmm...ano ba ang TAMANG way ng pagsosorry? maikli ba or mahaba? may time limit ba or wala?  iba-iba din kasi ang tao, yung iba, "i'm Sorry",period. iba naman "i'm sorry, <inserts explanation>"..well, alam din naman ni vice na after saying his apologies, madami pa din masasabi sa kanya and hindi mawawala din yung pang-gagatong ng iba.

well, this a painful experience for Vice, hope he'll not do the same mistake na lang next time.

glowstick

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Re: Vice Ganda
« Reply #390 on: May 29, 2013, 05:03:51 pm »
This:

i think it's a good thing that this issue was brought to light para malaman ni vice ganda, at ng publiko, na  rape should never, ever be the subject of a joke. it is a violent crime, and is a much too sensitive topic to be made light of.

sikat si vice ganda, madami nanonood ng concerts and shows niya, a lot of people look up to him (just read the tweets of his fans defending him on twitter, kaloka talaga.). with great power comes great responsibility. i don't think it's asking too much to expect a little more sensitivity from him.

kung sa US nangyari ito, mas grabe pa ang reaction ng mga tao. just look at isaiah washington when he called a co-star in gray's anatomy a f@$got, or michael richards of seinfeld fame who called an audience member a n^%ger during a show at a comedy club. or mel gibson when he made some anti-semitic remarks to some cops and those were caught on tape. di na sila naka-recover. 
It's good din that VG apologized, whether it is sincere or not (si God lang nakakaalam nyan). I hope this will be a lesson to him to tame his jokes especially if it's insulting at nakakababa ng moral. Marami namang pwedeng gamiting material para makapagpatawa. Never, ever make fun of someone else's "oddity". We don't know kung ano pinagdadaanan ng mga taong yun. I remember when i was in college, meron akong ginagayang pilay. I was not aware na yung ginagaya kong yun, andun lang sa paligid ko. I saw how hurt she was. Super guilty ako dun. I apologized and i bowed to myself to never, ever make fun of anyone, ke ano pa sila.

Yun lang pow =)

grace.kelly

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Re: Vice Ganda
« Reply #391 on: May 29, 2013, 06:39:26 pm »
I'm not a fan of vice, I don't even like him pero what's the purpose of this sensationalized joke? Kung hindi sikat ang tinira at hindi napikon ang GMA, may magsasalita ba? Matagal na nagjojoke si Vice ng ganyan pero bakit nagreact bigla ang GMA? Vice has been making jokes about others as well, pero wala namang nagrereklamo kasi wala naman napipikon.

So bakit may special consideration for Jessica Soho?

Ang di ko lang talaga nagustuhan ay ang rape joke. Actually nag-joke na rin siya dati sa showtime about Rape pero dahil hindi sikat ang tinira walang nagsalita, and this is what I find unfair.

I believe that GMA made  a big deal out of this for some agenda, and it is not about those fat women or rape victims. Dinagdag na lang nila yun. Kasi kung panlalait lang ang di nila nagustuhan e di sana matagal na silang nagsalita.

peewee

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Re: Vice Ganda
« Reply #392 on: May 29, 2013, 07:19:45 pm »
the people at GMA had to research it muna well, i guess, at baka naman magkamali sila ng sasabihin. that's normal. hindi yung react react kaagad, then mali naman pala mga info. i am sure they tried to get the facts first before reacting. i don't even know how it is okay for some people na ganun mag joke. not because other comedians are doing it means it is okay. nakakalimutan kasi natin sometimes that we hurt other people just to be popular or just to be funny. kaya tuloy maraming mga bata na lumalaki with questionable values.

Purple_Power

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Re: Vice Ganda
« Reply #393 on: May 29, 2013, 08:25:31 pm »
I've watched the TV Patrol kanina, well kasi maraming nag-react sa social media sites lalo na sa twitter niya. Isama mo pa na may ibang mga TV personalities na nagreact rin. Hindi lang mga taga GMA kahit nga si BB Gandanghari may sinabi rin eh! Aminin na natin o sa hindi ang awkward rin na yung kalaban mong station may ibabatong joke na yung iba matatawa pero meron ring ma-ooffend. Actually kailan lang nung nagjoke si VG about kay Nancy Binay nagreact si Nancy mismo diba? Pero kasi maraming tao ang may ayaw kay Nancy before election kaya karamihan mas panig kay Vice. But this one is already different. Nadawit ang isang kilalang pangalan sa rape joke kaya talagang automatic na may magrereact at marami sila na gagawin yun. Kahit hindi ako fan ng GMA at ayokong station ito masasabi ko pa rin na respetadong reporter pa rin si Jessica Soho.

jaynell_24

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Re: Vice Ganda
« Reply #394 on: May 29, 2013, 08:31:57 pm »
Ok lang sana yung weight joke about Jessica, but yung about sa rape, too sensitive na yun. yung mga sinasabi na mas malala pa sa comedy bar, well, COMEDY BAR yun and at least kung nanglalait sila yung mga nandun lang din sa mismong bar or sila silang comedian lang. but with Vice, concert yun eh, may mga bata pa, he should have been more responsible sa mga jokes nya.

at least naman nagsorry na sya. sana tapusin na tong issue na to.

grace.kelly

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Re: Vice Ganda
« Reply #395 on: May 29, 2013, 08:55:59 pm »
I hate rape jokes as well. my point here is that if hindi taga-gma ang tinira or hindi sikat, di naman sila magsasalita. So hindi sincere for me ang reporting na ginagawa nila. They don't have to research naman, masnakakapagtaka pa nga na yun ang tinira e hindi naman sa tv, pero mga lait ni vice sa tv deadma. You don't need to research about that. At di lang naman GMA, pati na rin mga organisasyon, ngayon lang sila nagsalita kasi sumikat. Besides, they have poor jokes in Bubble Gang so this should serve as a lesson for everyone talaga. I just find it absurd na mga sikat lang ang ipinagtatangol. Dahil lang may pangalan si Jessica? Haaay. By the way, I'm not a fan of VG. Kung tutuusin matagal na dapat nasuspend si Vice, nagkaron na rin siya ng rape and weight jokes, pero walang nagsalita.

pandalicious

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Re: Vice Ganda
« Reply #396 on: May 29, 2013, 08:57:48 pm »
^^ sis as vice have explained in showtime, his concert is like being in a comedy bar but on a larger scale, so people who bought tickets to watch his concert are very much aware of his kind of "jokes". tanggapin natin na sa mga jokes na "nambabastos"(nambabara, nanlalait, etc)  sumikat si vice. sana nga mag-aral siya ng ibang type of comedy.

sorry i was not aware, pero pwede ba ang bata sa concert niya? parang hindi naman yata, coz most of his materials are not even for national airing.

Antigone

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Re: Vice Ganda
« Reply #397 on: May 29, 2013, 09:01:50 pm »
I think the main point here is, Vice knew that the rape joke was tasteless. Kahit sinong matinong tao, alam yan. And yet he still chose to use it as
material for his joke. And dragged along Jessica Soho's name. It was deliberate.

Jessica shouldn't be castigated for not accepting Vice's apology. I just find it funny the burden now seems to lie on her.
Parang, o, nag-sorry na. Patawarin mo naman. Ansama mo naman pag di mo siya pnatawad.

Please.

alexcar

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Re: Vice Ganda
« Reply #398 on: May 29, 2013, 09:08:19 pm »
^^ sis as vice have explained in showtime, his concert is like being in a comedy bar but on a larger scale, so people who bought tickets to watch his concert are very much aware of his kind of "jokes". tanggapin natin na sa mga jokes na "nambabastos"(nambabara, nanlalait, etc)  sumikat si vice. sana nga mag-aral siya ng ibang type of comedy.

sorry i was not aware, pero pwede ba ang bata sa concert niya? parang hindi naman yata, coz most of his materials are not even for national airing.
Yup, pwede ang bata. Sobrang dami ring bata sa loob ng araneta :) Mga katabi namin bata at teenagers

pandalicious

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Re: Vice Ganda
« Reply #399 on: May 29, 2013, 09:17:35 pm »
^ ganun ba? naku dapat pala may age restriction ang mga ganyang shows ni vice, alam naman kung ano yung type of comedy niya.
pero nasa magulang na din yan, pinayagan nila mga anak nila manood eh, sabi nga ng mtrcb, "striktong patnubay at gabay ng magulang ang kailangan" hehe.

 

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