Child Support Thread

[vhina22]

Hello Girltalkers!

Eto po pinaka malaking problema ko ilang taon na. May anak po ako lalaki 6yrs.old na sya ngayon.. Nag aaral na rin at grade 1 na sya. Hindi po kamr kasal ng ama nya. Ilang taon na rin po syang hindi na sinusustehtuhan nung ex ko. Masasabe ko pong sobrang iresponsable nung taong yun dahil kinalimutan na nya ang lahat ng responsibilidad nya sa anak namen. Ako at ang magulang ko nalang ang bumubuhay sa anak ko pero hirap din kame sa buhay at hindi sapat ang kinikita ko. Pwede ko ba syang kasuhan sa ginawa nyang pag abandona sa anak namen? Hindi po kame kasal pero sakanya naka-apelyido ang bata. Wala rin po pala syang trabaho dahil tamad syang magtrabaho kase nakasandal parin sya sa magulang at mga ate nya hanggang ngayon na 27yrs old na sya. Pero naisip ko na kung oobligahin ko sya na magsustento sa anak nya eh mapilitan syang kumayod para may maisustento sya sa bata. Kaya rin po pala humahabol ako ngayon sa pagsustento sa anak namen dahil ilang years na pong pabalik balik ang sakit ng bata sa tenga nya both ears.. at napakamahal po ng nga gamot sa tenga dahil malala narin. Ano po ba ang mga legal na step na gagawen ko? Sana po matulungan nyo ko. Mahirap po talagang maging single mother at masaket sakin na nahihirapan yung anak ko sa saket nya... Maraming salamat po.

Nakakainis talaga yung mga lalaking ganyan. napaka-iresponsable.. If i were you, ipakulong mo nalang yan para magtanda. As far as i know, child support kasi depends on the capacity of the person to give support. If he is not working e di wala rin syang mabibigay sayo. The court cant compel him to give you support kasi wala syang source of income. Pero pwede yata sya sa violence against women na case coz he is depriving you of financial support. Yung intent dun is that he is not even trying to find work to give you financial support. Anyways.. you should go to PAO and ask. It's a criminal case so pwede sya makulong. Malay mo once na pinadalhan sya ng demand letter ng lawyer matakot tas tulungan ka kahit pano sa expenses.

[amethyst028]

^you're right sis pwede sa RA  9262. it will fall under financial abuse. pag walang capacity si lalake magbigay ie. no work or maliit income pwede obligahin ang parents ni lalake mag child support. they cannot say no dahil pwedeng kasuhan ang family nila. but better consult a lawyer regarding this para mas accurate. go to PAO sa city hall iyan kung saan ka nakatira. free lang ang consultation.

[gharz412]

what shall be the first thing that i'll shall do if the father of my son keeps on ignoring him and worst di pa nagbibigay. Ddresto na ba ako sa Lawyer? sa estranged hubby? or sa inlaws ko? wala kasing work si estranged hubby now.... 

[tiggerlily]

just curious, what if it's the other way around. like si girl ang umalis para "daw" makapagprovide sya sa anak nya pero turns out walang ipinadala ever. so si guy ang gumastos ng lahat. kapag sa guy ba naiwan ang bata, paano sya hihingi ng sustento? or that never happens?

[cool_chique]

I have backread already but i can't seem to find the answer. How much would it cost to file a child support case with the help of a private lawyer? NagPAO kasi ako dati so wala gastos pero ikaw talaga magaabang syempre sa availability ng lawyer mo.

[anniegurl]

i have a 12 year old son. hisfather hasnt provided for his needs for the longest time. We tried to make arrangements before pero sumasakit lang ulo ko so i decided not to stress myself and just let it be. I havent asked for support from him since then. last summer he called me and asked if naka enrol na yung anak ko. I said not yet he then asked for the summary of expenses. So sinend ko sa kanya and he said parang sobra naman daw yung gastos. Parang he was telling me na pinapatungan ko. I just said my piece and stopped talking to him again. Mas peaceful and stress free if he's not involved. It may be hard sisses to raise our kids on our own. Pero it will be super rewarding.

[chiqmom]

^^sis, child support is now handled by the baranggay so you do not need a lawyer during the first part of your case. its only after hindi maresolve sa baranggay that you can go to the court.

if this can help, i will share the process of what i did:

1. exhaust all means to convince the father to give child support.
2. talked to a lawyer for an advice. he asked for a minimal fee (consultation fee) then an additional charge for the courier service so he can  send the demand letter to the father's address, his family, and some of his closest friends and relatives. this is to ensure na matanggap talaga ng father yung demand letter.
3. the lawyer advised me to bring the case to the father's baranggay.
4. the baranggay captain sent letters to the father, asking him to appear before them
5. we had 3 meetings yata with the father so we can resolve the child support case. first meeting is yung concern lang tinackle then i asked the father to give us a certification to how much exactly he is earning. second meeting dala nya na yun and dala ko na din yung breakdown ng expenses ng mga bata. third meeting, nagkaroon na ng settlement.

sabi ng lawyer ko, only after this can we proceed to the court. the baranggay will issue a certification na hindi naayos yung issue sa level nila, so if ever pwede na kami magproceed sa korte.

but thankfully, naayos din kahit sa baranggay pa lang. 

The process was so stressful for me. I talked to several lawyers before (both from PAO and private firms) to the point na they were asking me na whether I want to file a criminal or a civil case. Until I found this lawyer who gave me the easier process of dealing with this case.

I know some would say na why should I stress about the child support case when I can provide for my kids needs naman. I admit, I came to the point na iniisip ko huwag na lang, kung ayaw niya e d ok lang kasi masyado lang stressful. I even thought mas magiging malala away namin if I proceed with the case. Pero the opposite happened. The kids can now feel their father's presence kasi the father also asked for his visitation rights. Mas magaan na din sakin yung gastos, I can provide better things to my kids. Thank God. But specially, better na din yung relationship namin ng father nila. We are friends now. Wala na away, so mas positive na din outlook ko sa buhay. 

[cool_chique]

^Thank you sis, this is super helpful! Dati kasi,year 2011 or 2012, pwede direcho sa court. Sa baranggay na pala muna ngayon.

In my case before thru PAO, i filed ra9262 first kasi korean yung daddy ng daughter ko at para mapawatchlist ko (super hassle nito kasi criminal case). Then nung napawatchlist ko na (wala na daw watchlist ngayon), i filed child support case. Medyo mabilis yung child support case, parang after 2 weeks ko magfile, may schedule na kami sa court. Sa 2nd meeting sa court, don ko na sana ibibigay yung bank account ko para don ihuhulog yung inooffer niyang 5k for our 3 or 4 yr old daughter then (dineny niya na may work sya rito). Pero sa 2nd meeting namin, sabi ko iuurong ko na un child support case. Nastress kasi ako sa visitation rights niya. Sabi kasi sakin ng PAO lawyer ko non, pwedeng irequest ng father na walang chaperone pag hihiramin niya kaya natakot naman ako. Sa halagang 5k monthly, kakaba kaba kami non? Kaya i decided not to proceed with the case.

True, super stressful. Pero ngayon, i think kelangan na talaga ng financial support ng daddy niya dahil lumalaki na rin ng needs niya since nasa gradeschool na. Married na rin ngayon si ex kaya i think, he wouldn't mind his visitation rights over my daughter.

[bonita8888]

hi mga sissies, my son is 15 yrs. old na puede pa ba ko humingi ng child support sa ex ko? married kami pero may family na sya with 2 sons sa kabit at ganun din naman ako, pahelp naman mga sis tia!

[kvandenhaak]

^ I'm not sure about the percentage eh. Based on what I've read kasi pag illegitimate (since this is my concern cos my kids are illegitimate) it should be 50% of all the total expenses nun child yung ibibigay ng father. Pag legitimate I dont know. Parang it depends on the financial capacity ng father? Kasi from what I;ve heard parang ganun.

I just read this thread and I am flabbergasted at the double standard sa batas sa Pilipinas. Kesyo legitimate or hindi, that's not suppose to be the problem of the child.

[thestargazer]

I just read this thread and I am flabbergasted at the double standard sa batas sa Pilipinas. Kesyo legitimate or hindi, that's not suppose to be the problem of the child.

sad to say May barrier talaga illegit at legit child....kawawa ang illegit di naman nila kasalanan...Kung ang tatay naman pinabayaan ang anak...good riddance...walang kwentang Tao sya, in short....I mean di kasalanan ng bata sa gulo ng magulang, tsk, tsk....

[jojo2978]

FYI lang Sisses, we are talking of support not inheritance.

[annamarie88]

What if nasa 400,000k monthly sweldo ng illegitimate tatay? Magkano kaya dapat nya isustento?

^sa settlement ang dapat daw is 70/30. 70 percent sa bata tapos 30 percent na lang matitira sa kanya. pero pumayag na ako sa 50/50. although i know pineke nya yung document about how much income nya.

Kung 70% sa bata (ng sweldo ni IL father) wala na matitira mejo hehe

Pero this IL father na friend of mine, nako, niloko lang ng babae na may pagkabitc** ang dating kasi kasal na pala sa akala ni IL father na "ex" ng girl, at nagpakasal pa ulit sa friend ko na kawawa.. So ang annulment nila ngayon nakafile na, pero magkano ba dapat ibigay nya? Dapat lahat ng school expenses sa kanya, sabi ko nga bili na lang sya lahat ng needs nung bata, kasi this girl lagi din nagsasabi noon na marami utang nanay nya at sya naman ay walang work din.. So hindi ka sure kung saan gagastusin ng girl yung pera diba? I'm thinking 10k cash malaki na kung sya naman sa lahat, school, medical, yaya, grocery.. Diba?? sarap ng buhay ng girl kung sustento lang sya kasi yun talaga plano nya, kilala na gold digger.. Kaya nga sya nagpilit magpabuntis at pakasal kahit kasal na sya sa sa isang ofw

At saka papa dna nya pa din talaga muna yung baby bilang kasal na nga yung demo******* girl..
Ang gulo ng ganitong life.. Sa totoo..

My brother sinustentuhan nya kid nya, tuition and all plus cash na hindi ko matanong hehe pero gusto din ng mom ko pa dna muna and magbigay na lang sya in kind at konting cash, kasi bata pa naman yun, wala pa masyado gastos kasi covered na lahat..

I know a few friends also, hindi na naghahabol sa mga IL fathers ng kids nila, kahit mahirap buhay, kasi hirap nga for example din, pag may asawa na yung girl diba, parang ang gulo, may weekends pa sa daddy.. Hehe ayaw na lang nila ng connection whatsoever, not naman sa dinedeprive ang kids sa ama, sabi nila, they don't need their tatay, even their kids ayaw din naman sa dads nila just because & i would agree, kung kaya ko naman buhayin ko, hindi na ako maghahabol for child support.. Lalo at happily married or happy naman together kahit single mom.. But that's just me.. 

[jojo2978]

Substantiated siguro dapat yung amount ng support with respect sa demand for it. Example, tuition fee - xxxx, food and clothing, xxxx, etc. Kung may receipt na maprepresent mas maganda.

I don't think na specific percentage ng sweldo ng father ng illegitimate child mapupunta automatically sa bata. Syempre dapat justified.

If in case naman, mas malaki needs ng bata kaysa sa capability ng father, mag adjust pa rin. Example 10k/monthly sweldo ng father, gastos ng bata is 20k, syempre di maibibigay ng father, perhaps mag rule ang court if no agreement will be reached by the parties na tempered ang monthly, like 2 to 3k. Paano masusuportahan ng father ang bata kung wala siya pang sustenance ng sarili niya.

[kvandenhaak]

Sa Canada, merong table of income and corresponding amount to simplify things for those who fixed income earner. The parent who receives the child support does not need to provide receipts. And the parent who has physical custody gets tax breaks and gets the child bonus.

[iam.Arianna]

Question lang mga sis,

Pwede ba ako humingi ng child support sa tatay ng anak ko kahit wala syang trabaho? Gusto ko sana sya obligahin na talaga na magsustento naman sa anak namen.. 6yrs old na yung bata pero wala naman sya nabibigay kahit magkano simula pa 2yrs old... nag aaral na yung ana namen at wala naman din ako trabaho pa ngayon.. sa mga kamag anak lang din kame nakaka hingi ng baon ng bata.. hayy ang hirap kase talaga yung bata ang kawawa sa nangyare.

Yun kase ang dahilan nung ex ko na wala naman syang trabaho kaya wala sya ibibigay. At mga sis, may bisyo pala sya kaya ganun sya kawalang kwentang tatay! Yung friend ko kase napa-demanda nya yung ex nya kase hindi nagsusutento pero may work naman kase yung guy na ex ng friend ko. Eh ko yung ex ko walang work, pwede ko kaya sya idemanda? Thanks po sa magrereply!

[anniegurl]

ang alam ko sis yung support will be based from the fathers salarykasi they would usually ask kung ano source of income and how much.

Ive given up on child support. mas at peace kami ng son ko.

[ThePurpleCoffer]

hi mga sissies, my son is 15 yrs. old na puede pa ba ko humingi ng child support sa ex ko? married kami pero may family na sya with 2 sons sa kabit at ganun din naman ako, pahelp naman mga sis tia!

Hi! Let us know who are obliged to support each other.According to Article 105 of the FC, they are the following:
1. Spouses;
2. Legitimate ascendants & descendants;
3. Parents and their legitimate children, and the legitimate and illegitimate children of the latter;
4. Parents and their illegitimate children, and the legitimate and illegitimate children of the latter;
5. Legitimate brothers and sisters whether full or half‐blood.

So, as per the above-cited enumeration, dapat lang na suportahan ng ex mo yung anak niyo.

Now, ano ba ang inclusions ng support?
---->Support comprises of everything indispensable for:
1. Sustenance
2. Dwelling
3. Clothing
4. Medical attendance
5. Education – includes schooling or training for some profession, trade or vocation, even beyond the age of majority (18 years old)
6. Transportation – includes expenses going to and from school, or to from place of work

Therefor, puwede mong hingin lahat yan sa ex mo sis.

Now, as to the fact na may-asawa na yung ex mo, pwede pa ba?
---> Yes pwede pa. Walang batas na nagsasabing mapuputol ang obligation to support an illegitimate child kung nagpakasal na yung isang illegitimate parent.

Saan naman niya kukunin yung ibibigay niya for support?
---> Depende kung ano ang property regime nila ng asawa niya. In the absence of a stipulation in the marriage settlent or absence of a marriage settlement itself, Absolute community property sila. Therefor,
(a) Exclusive property of the debtor spouse (yung ex mo) shall be liable. (b.) If the exclusive property is insufficient, the community is liable.

Magkano naman ang support na makukuha ng anak niyo?
---->Amount of support shall be in proportion to the resources or means of the giver and to the necessities of the recipient. It shall be increased or reduced proportionately, according to the increase/reduction of necessities of the recipient and the resources of the person obliged.

Hope this helps. 

[jamila_19]

Hello mga sissies...

Married ako. pero may problema kami ng husband ko dahil sa may babae siya.

Ang habol ko na lang ngayon eh masustentuhan niya [textspeak!] mga bata.

Puede ba akong mag demand sa knya ng Child Support kahit ang income lang niya eh [textspeak!] nabili niyang Jeepney at binabyahe na lang niya araw araw at kumikita siya ng halos p800 everyday.


may tinatawag na AFFIDAVIT OF CHILD SUPPORT. sabi sa akin ng Auntie ko eh puede na daw ilapit sa Baranggay Hall ito kahit hindi na dumaan sa Abogado...

pls advise. Thanks!

[EYESCREAM]

Mga sis, i need advice also. Same situation kami ni sis @mcenyll na nasa page3. Pinagkaiba lang wala pa kaming baby ni hubby. 1yr. palang kami kasal. And last February lang, nalaman ko na may anak pala si hubby sa past ex-gf niya. Hindi sila kasal, age ng bata nasa 5 to 6 years old na. Question lang ako sa rights, alam ko naman na kailangan suportahan ni hubby anak niya, sa province din nakatira yung bata. Pero hindi namam ganun kalaki kita ng asawa ko. May karapatan parin ba ko sa sweldo ni hubby since wala pa kame baby? But i know someday, magkakaroon din kame, kaya magdedemand din ako para sa mga anak ko. Pls help mga sis kung anong pwedeng gawin. Thank you